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(TMZ)   With the mother of one victim planning to sue the movie theater and a survivor planning to sue Warner Brothers, The Aurora Movie Theater Massacre lawsuit sweepstakes have officially begun   (tmz.com) divider line 231
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2012-07-30 10:04:52 AM
The movie theater... eh, I can see that.

But why would anyone sue Warner Brothers, other than for making horrible comic book movies?
 
2012-07-30 10:22:07 AM

FirstNationalBastard: But why would anyone sue Warner Brothers, other than for making horrible comic book movies?


Because Warner Brothers will not publicly oppose a massacre survivor and will settle out of court. The conversation will go like this:

"Hey guys, so we've decided to sue you because [Insert Reason Here]."

"Okay, how does 50k sound?"

"Good. Deal."
 
2012-07-30 10:36:01 AM

FirstNationalBastard: The movie theater... eh, I can see that.

But why would anyone sue Warner Brothers, other than for making horrible comic book movies?


From the linked article (about a victim who wasn't injured):

2. Holmes' doctors. Karpel says it appears Holmes was on several medications -- prescribed by one or more doctors -- at the time of the shooting and he believes the docs did not properly monitor Holmes.

3. Warner Bros. Karpel says "Dark Knight Rises" was particularly violent and Holmes mimicked some of the action. The attorney says theater goers were helpless because they thought the shooter was part of the movie. Karpel tells TMZ, "Somebody has to be responsible for the rampant violence that is shown today."


Yes, it really is an asinine reason to sue a studio.
 
2012-07-30 10:45:43 AM
It takes a special kind of person to think about cashing in at a time like this. Congratulations Shirley Wygal, I hope you can sell the corpse for a big payout.

/From a senseless tragedy rises a disgusting moneygrab
 
2012-07-30 10:51:00 AM

Il Douchey: It takes a special kind of person to think about cashing in at a time like this. Congratulations Shirley Wygal, I hope you can sell the corpse for a big payout.

/From a senseless tragedy rises a disgusting moneygrab


Actually, I can see her point about the emergency doors being inadequate.

But suing WB? That's a cash grab disguised as a concern troll.
 
2012-07-30 11:10:00 AM
Getting shot is like winning the lottery!
 
2012-07-30 11:10:23 AM

FirstNationalBastard: The movie theater... eh, I can see that.

But why would anyone sue Warner Brothers, other than for making horrible comic book movies?


Deep pockets.
 
2012-07-30 11:10:59 AM
Um... violence is harming our society and killing our youth.

Excuse me, I need to catch the latest installment of Saw. You know... Saw 8: We rape and murder a woman in 1990.
 
2012-07-30 11:11:04 AM

FirstNationalBastard: The movie theater... eh, I can see that.



Why? Do Colorado movieplexes customarily TSA patrons?

As for suing in general, it's in the Constitwhatsit, isn't it?
 
2012-07-30 11:11:13 AM
Good. Hopefully the 2nd amendment will be struck down when people realise they can't afford it.
 
2012-07-30 11:11:29 AM
Maybe if medical care wasn't so prohibitively expensive in the United States, people wouldn't feel compelled to sue so much.
 
2012-07-30 11:12:04 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Il Douchey: It takes a special kind of person to think about cashing in at a time like this. Congratulations Shirley Wygal, I hope you can sell the corpse for a big payout.

/From a senseless tragedy rises a disgusting moneygrab

Actually, I can see her point about the emergency doors being inadequate.



I can't, a lot of people use those doors as a normal exit after the show to avoid the crowds in the lobby. I have never been to a theater with alarmed doors.
 
2012-07-30 11:12:39 AM
So, if Christian Bale can show up and support the victims, can we have Tom Hardy show up where these people live?
 
2012-07-30 11:13:10 AM
I am not opposed to lawsuit filing in general but I do believe that incidents such as these highlight the need for some reasonable restrictions such as a ban on high-powered assault attorneys whose high-capacity briefs are only usable for filing as many frivolous lawsuits as possible as quickly as possible.
 
2012-07-30 11:13:43 AM
They should tack on the extremist GOP hate-group the NRA as well.
 
2012-07-30 11:14:06 AM

balial: Good. Hopefully the 2nd amendment will be struck down when people realise they can't afford it.


Constitutional amendments cannot be "struck down".
 
2012-07-30 11:14:16 AM
The shooters face really should be on the american flag. He's a perfect representative.
 
2012-07-30 11:14:50 AM

Primum: They should tack on the extremist GOP hate-group the NRA as well.


Why?
 
2012-07-30 11:15:16 AM

WTF Indeed: FirstNationalBastard: But why would anyone sue Warner Brothers, other than for making horrible comic book movies?

Because Warner Brothers will not publicly oppose a massacre survivor and will settle out of court. The conversation will go like this:

"Hey guys, so we've decided to sue you because [Insert Reason Here]."

"Okay, how does 50k sound?"

"Good. Deal."


Exactly, but Im betting the settlement will be higher. Lawyer tosses the possibility of a multi-million dollar suit, and they settle for a few hundred thousand.

Being poor Im all for scratching some $$$ out of a big company, but Id rather not have a family member shot to get it.

/unless its the mother-in-law...
 
2012-07-30 11:15:37 AM
FNB: Actually, I can see her point about the emergency doors being inadequate.

Assuming the theater was in compliance with all laws regarding the exits, what would a reasonable penalty be for this lack of extra alarms? In hindsight, it's easy to pick out something that may have made the crime more difficult to commit, this in no way makes the theater an accessory to murder. She just wants free money.
 
2012-07-30 11:15:41 AM

balial: Good. Hopefully the 2nd amendment will be struck down when people realise they can't afford it.


How much is a 2nd amendment? Can we pool our money together and share it alternating days?
 
2012-07-30 11:15:58 AM
So they are suing becasue the Dark Knight Rises was violent and he thought he was in it. How did he know the movie was violent, wasn't it the premier?
 
2012-07-30 11:16:30 AM
Bob16
(favorite: retard troll)

The tagging system works!
 
2012-07-30 11:17:04 AM

DoBeDoBeDo: FirstNationalBastard: Il Douchey: It takes a special kind of person to think about cashing in at a time like this. Congratulations Shirley Wygal, I hope you can sell the corpse for a big payout.

/From a senseless tragedy rises a disgusting moneygrab

Actually, I can see her point about the emergency doors being inadequate.



I can't, a lot of people use those doors as a normal exit after the show to avoid the crowds in the lobby. I have never been to a theater with alarmed doors.


Yeah, it's a movie theater, not a prison. And if the guy really wanted it, he could have stormed the lobby. No one in the theater would have heard and he'd still have been able to walk into the room.
 
2012-07-30 11:17:21 AM
www.american-buddha.com

A lawsuit storm is coming.
 
2012-07-30 11:17:52 AM

James F. Campbell: Maybe if medical care wasn't so prohibitively expensive in the United States, people wouldn't feel compelled to sue so much.


Bingo. Unfortunately Republicans oppose the non-wealthy receiving anything, whether by government healthcare or trial attorney.
 
2012-07-30 11:19:21 AM

scottydoesntknow: From the linked article (about a victim who wasn't injured):

3. Warner Bros. Karpel says "Dark Knight Rises" was particularly violent and Holmes mimicked some of the action. The attorney says theater goers were helpless because they thought the shooter was part of the movie. Karpel tells TMZ, "Somebody has to be responsible for the rampant violence that is shown today."


What the what?

I thought we got rid of the "Marylin Manson made my boy kill 10 people" and "GTA made my boy run over a hooker."

Also, I just saw TDKR yesterday. If anyone thinks that's too much, I offer you every horror movie made since Psycho. Jaws was PG, as was Raiders of the Lost Ark - your argument is totally devoid of anything resembling coherent thought.

// also invalid
 
2012-07-30 11:19:43 AM
This is pointless

A determined individual is going to commit a massacre no matter how many obstacles are put in his or her way
 
2012-07-30 11:19:53 AM

James F. Campbell: Maybe if medical care wasn't so prohibitively expensive in the United States, people wouldn't feel compelled to sue so much.


Why do you hate freedom?
 
2012-07-30 11:21:42 AM

Dimensio: Primum: They should tack on the extremist GOP hate-group the NRA as well.

Why?


Makes as much sense as going after Warner Brothers.

I'd go after who ever supplied the weapons and call Darrell Issa for help.
 
2012-07-30 11:21:46 AM
The shooting rampage cycle:

Day 1: ZOMG the shooter is a conservative/liberal!
Days 2-5: OK I guess the shooter is a basket case. Awful just awful, so many victims.
Day 6+: GUN RIGHTS! FRIVOLOUS LAWSUITS! MUSLIMS!* OUTRAGE!


*Wherever applicable
 
2012-07-30 11:21:51 AM
Nobody ever done a massacre at a Troma film premiere.


Maybe because they don't usually get into the theaters... but still.
 
2012-07-30 11:22:06 AM

Nem Wan: James F. Campbell: Maybe if medical care wasn't so prohibitively expensive in the United States, people wouldn't feel compelled to sue so much.

Bingo. Unfortunately Republicans oppose the non-wealthy receiving anything, whether by government healthcare or trial attorney.



I wasn't aware of that.
 
2012-07-30 11:23:31 AM
I has a sad.
 
2012-07-30 11:24:09 AM
Defense:

They're not "emergency exits". They're simply exits.
 
2012-07-30 11:25:06 AM
The Aurora Movie Theater Massacre, with 4 part harmony.
 
2012-07-30 11:25:14 AM
Another day. Another chance to be disappointed in humanity.
 
2012-07-30 11:26:06 AM
This is why her daughter died. Up front karma. I hope she doesnt get any money and her dies of heartache.
 
2012-07-30 11:26:38 AM
I want to sue the patrons who thought that the shooting was part of the movie. How dumb does one have to be before being locked away?
 
2012-07-30 11:26:56 AM

Sultan Of Herf: Being poor Im all for scratching some $$$ out of a big company, but Id rather not have a family member shot to get it.


That's stealing. They didn't do anything wrong, and in fact what they did is constitutionally protected.

"Loser Pays" would go a long way to stopping this sort of behavior, which we all pay for in the end. Well, maybe that's going too far. How about a compromise, where the loser, if they hire a lawyer on contingency, has to pay that lawyer at the end of the suit, regardless of the outcome, at a minimum 10% below the average hourly rate for a lawyer in that jurisdiction. That way, people with really shaky cases, or those going for a strict money grab, would think twice because they may well lose, and end up owing a rather large legal bill.
 
2012-07-30 11:27:27 AM

Nem Wan: James F. Campbell: Maybe if medical care wasn't so prohibitively expensive in the United States, people wouldn't feel compelled to sue so much.

Bingo. Unfortunately Republicans oppose the non-wealthy receiving anything, whether by government healthcare or trial attorney.


Medical care is prohibitively expensive primarily due to lawsuits and the insane cost of malpractice insurance people working in the medical field have to carry to protect themselves from idiots that sue for their lottery payout. If medical lawsuits were outlawed we wouldn't have such an unaffordable system and this new communist insurance plan wouldn't be needed.
 
2012-07-30 11:27:30 AM
Karpel says "Dark Knight Rises" was particularly violent and Holmes mimicked some of the action. The attorney says theater goers were helpless because they thought the shooter was part of the movie. Karpel tells TMZ, "Somebody has to be responsible for the rampant violence that is shown today."

Yeah, the person responsible is in custody. What's so complicated about that?
 
2012-07-30 11:28:14 AM

Dimensio: I am not opposed to lawsuit filing in general but I do believe that incidents such as these highlight the need for some reasonable restrictions such as a ban on high-powered assault attorneys whose high-capacity briefs are only usable for filing as many frivolous lawsuits as possible as quickly as possible.


I think we could support a ban on assault attorneys. Nobody needs a fully automatic lawyer. Nobody.

/Seriously, tort reform.
 
2012-07-30 11:30:14 AM

Pinhedd: Karpel says "Dark Knight Rises" was particularly violent and Holmes mimicked some of the action. The attorney says theater goers were helpless because they thought the shooter was part of the movie. Karpel tells TMZ, "Somebody has to be responsible for the rampant violence that is shown today."

Yeah, the person responsible is in custody. What's so complicated about that?


He's poor. Has to have a public defender. No money to extract.

They want to make some person (human or corporate) who is wealthy responsible. Works better for their bank accounts that way.
 
2012-07-30 11:30:38 AM

FirstNationalBastard: The movie theater... eh, I can see that.


What the hell for? For not having a SWAT team on hand and the TSA at every entrance and exit? It's a farking movie theater.

As for suing WB, as someone already pointed out, IT WAS THE GODDAMNED PREMIERE. This guy was preparing for this for months. Besides which, it wasn't all that violent. Sure people got killed like any action movie but it was hardly excessive. And even if it was, that wasn't the reason the guy went shootin'.
 
2012-07-30 11:30:50 AM
BTW, how did the shooter enter via the emergency exit? Over here those doors are locked from the outside with no handle and are alarmed as well.

Different in the US?
 
2012-07-30 11:31:13 AM

scottydoesntknow: 3. Warner Bros. Karpel says "Dark Knight Rises" was particularly violent and Holmes mimicked some of the action. The attorney says theater goers were helpless because they thought the shooter was part of the movie. Karpel tells TMZ, "Somebody has to be responsible for the rampant violence that is shown today."


I've wondered about this. Is there any reason to believe that Holmes had seen the movie? Seems like he planned it long before it was released. For all he knew, it was going to be a love story.
 
2012-07-30 11:31:54 AM

Silverstaff: Pinhedd: Karpel says "Dark Knight Rises" was particularly violent and Holmes mimicked some of the action. The attorney says theater goers were helpless because they thought the shooter was part of the movie. Karpel tells TMZ, "Somebody has to be responsible for the rampant violence that is shown today."

Yeah, the person responsible is in custody. What's so complicated about that?

He's poor. Has to have a public defender. No money to extract.

They want to make some person (human or corporate) who is wealthy responsible. Works better for their bank accounts that way.


I thought as much. I guess it's a good thing that my faith in humanity can't possibly get any lower
 
2012-07-30 11:32:03 AM

James F. Campbell: Maybe if medical care wasn't so prohibitively expensive in the United States, people wouldn't feel compelled to sue so much.


Lol. Thats so incredibly stupid i must assume you are trolling.

Why would the costs of medical care compel the mother of a dead victim to sue? Is it going to be prohibitively expensive to bring her 32 year old daughter back to life?
 
2012-07-30 11:32:32 AM

KingKauff: I want to sue the patrons who thought that the shooting was part of the movie. How dumb does one have to be before being locked away?


I think many (maybe most) people thought Holmes was part of some act happening in the theater and some mentioned it in their interviews. No one continued to think it was an act once the tear gas went off.
 
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