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2012-07-30 02:43:11 AM  

xl5150: Captain_Ballbeard: xl5150: If abortions are going to be legal, part of the requirement to get one should be that the father of the child has to sign off on it (with the obvious exception of when the woman has a police report stating that she has been raped). It's just common sense.

Do you see where this will go?

To a place where the person who is 50% of the parent gets 50% of the say? Like I said, it's just common sense.



No, to where every case where a chick wants an abortion turns into a rape case.
 
2012-07-30 02:43:20 AM  

Sabyen91: And I called my shot.


Hah, yeah, you won that round. :) No worries, I'm sure the Limbaughites will be here soon. Who's got the over/under on the first troll to claim that birth control works like Viagra? I haven't seen that derping point yet, though I might've missed it.
 
2012-07-30 02:43:29 AM  

Lsherm: Sabyen91: Lsherm: fusillade762: Lsherm: Didn't get a good commercial about their body:

That's because it's not a person.

It's a body, isn't it?

/wheee!

[www.molecularstation.com image 600x600]

Looks like one to me.

Can't stay up late tonight to fight with you, my friend, so this is your only response.

But that was a weak argument, especially if you read my Boobies. I even included a picture. Clearly farther along than whatever you're trying to argue, especially since you included a picture.


So we are haggling over a cut-off point?
 
2012-07-30 02:44:13 AM  
When to Start Teaching Sex Education

Canada is definitely different from the United States and Britain on the question of when to start sex education in school. While only 13 per cent of Americans and 17 per cent of Britons would begin these courses at age 9 or earlier, one-in-four Canadians (24%) believe this is the ideal age to begin. About a third of respondents in the three countries believe the best time to start teaching sex education at school is between the ages of 12 and 13.

Almost one-in-ten Americans (9%) believe that schools should not teach sex education to students-a view shared by only three per cent of Canadians and two per cent of Britons.

The Curriculum

Practically nine-in-ten respondents in the three countries believe topics such as pregnancy and birth control, venereal diseases, sexual abuse, and bullying should be "definitely" or "probably" discussed in a sex education course. However, there are some stark contrasts in other topics:

- Abstinence: Canadians and Americans (both at 89%) are more likely to favour this topic than Britons (81%).
- Intercourse: Canadians (91%) and Britons (89%) more likely to favour this topic than Americans (77%).
- Non-penetrative sex: Canadians (82%) are more likely to favour this topic than Britons (74%) or Americans (66%).
- Abortion: Canadians (84%) and Britons (78%) are more likely to favour this topic than Americans (68%).
- Homosexuality: Canadians (86%) more likely to favour this topic than Britons (76%) and Americans (63%).
- Sexual Pleasure: While a majority of Canadians (69%) and Britons (62%) would like to see this topic discussed, less than half of Americans (46%) concur.
 
2012-07-30 02:44:33 AM  

RastaKins: This is your body.

And it's none of my business if I pay taxes for...
...your abortion,
...your mammogram,
...your STDs.

Thanks for being so self sufficient.


You know women pay taxes too, right?
/men also get cancer and STDs.
 
2012-07-30 02:45:02 AM  

Fluorescent Testicle: Sabyen91: And I called my shot.

Hah, yeah, you won that round. :) No worries, I'm sure the Limbaughites will be here soon. Who's got the over/under on the first troll to claim that birth control works like Viagra? I haven't seen that derping point yet, though I might've missed it.


One would have to hate oneself to make that argument.

/Yes, I DO believe the trolls are self-loathing.
 
2012-07-30 02:45:07 AM  

PillsHere: Wait you think that women don't have to live with the choice? Are you farking kidding me? Women have 2 really really shiatty choices here. Either they have the kid they don't want, or they have an abortion where they have to live the rest of their lives feeling the guilt of their decision as assholes like you spout off about how they are terrible people for making that decision. While I understand that some men who might want a child when the woman doesn't might get burnt in the deal, to imply that women don't have to live with their choices is not only wrong but absolutely disgusting.


yes because guilt is the same as an average of $350 a month for 18 years. And I never once called anyone terrible for getting an abortion. How about making it so anyone under 18 has to have parental consent, if the parent refuses to allow abortion they are on the hook for the kid. How about, in case of married women, notification to their husband. Hell at least with notification... he can decide to divorce if he wants. Like I pointed out before, on a pro abortion website as well, abortion is done to save women money. Let the man opt out. Sure he may look like an asshole but at least he has the same kind of choices a women has. Equal rights and all that jazz.
 
2012-07-30 02:45:58 AM  
That video just pissed me off, and I basically agree with what most of what they said.
 
2012-07-30 02:46:35 AM  

Sabyen91: Not take care of a child he is responsible for fathering.

/I know it happens all the time but it doesn't make it right or ethical.


See, this brings us to the heart of the entire debate.

At what point does the man become responsible for a child? The moment he consents to have sex? Why is that?

Seriously, I want you to think this through logically, not emotionally. I can completely understand that there are cultural pain points WRT dead-beat dads etc, but this is not what I'm talking about.

If a couple is married, and they decide to have children, and the father walks out and refuses to assist years later, that's an entirely different scenario. That guy is a douchebag. He signed up for kids. He consented, tacitly or explicitly for the responsibility of raising children.

I'm talking about two people, maybe just started dating, whatever, end up getting pregnant. The guy is not ready or simply not interested in being a father. Why is he held to being responsible for the life of a child anymore than the woman is? The woman can choose to have an abortion, but the guy is just stuck if the woman chooses to keep it?

So, we're comfortable with women not being responsible for the life of a child as a consequence of their consent to have sex. But we're also comfortable with a man being held responsible for the life of a child as a consequence of consent to have sex?

Can you see why it's less of a moral issue and more of an ethical one? It's a double standard. And while I wholly realize that a certain amount of those are inevitable as a consequence of our biology, I don't see this as an example of that.
 
2012-07-30 02:47:02 AM  
The only purpose abortions serve is taking human life and all the pro-lifers are asking for is sensible common sense restrictions. How could anybody have a problem with that?

Great argument isn't it?
 
2012-07-30 02:47:14 AM  
Sabyen91       
 
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  2012-07-30 02:37:13 AM  
kasmel: Sabyen91: What kind of immoral piece of shiat would do this?

Do what exactly?

Not take care of a child he is responsible for fathering.

/I know it happens all the time but it doesn't make it right or ethical.


the same people who have abortions because they are not ready to be a parent.
 
2012-07-30 02:48:52 AM  

Lsherm: fusillade762: Lsherm: Didn't get a good commercial about their body:

That's because it's not a person.

It's a body, isn't it?

/wheee!


Whose body? I mean, if it itself is not a person then it would just be another part of the woman's body.
 
2012-07-30 02:49:09 AM  
Toxicphreke, the Bhopal Accident of Fark 2012-07-30 02:20:16 AM

Why does a man have to live with his oh so vile sinful filthy miserable agonizing and burdensome choice to have sex but you filthy sluts get to slut it up with everyone but me and walk away

Fixed it for ya, slobadan.

Arguments like yours don't deserve to be adressed with logic anyway,
just gleefully malicious cat-like editing.
 
2012-07-30 02:49:25 AM  

kasmel: Sabyen91: Not take care of a child he is responsible for fathering.

/I know it happens all the time but it doesn't make it right or ethical.

See, this brings us to the heart of the entire debate.

At what point does the man become responsible for a child? The moment he consents to have sex? Why is that?

Seriously, I want you to think this through logically, not emotionally. I can completely understand that there are cultural pain points WRT dead-beat dads etc, but this is not what I'm talking about.

If a couple is married, and they decide to have children, and the father walks out and refuses to assist years later, that's an entirely different scenario. That guy is a douchebag. He signed up for kids. He consented, tacitly or explicitly for the responsibility of raising children.

I'm talking about two people, maybe just started dating, whatever, end up getting pregnant. The guy is not ready or simply not interested in being a father. Why is he held to being responsible for the life of a child anymore than the woman is? The woman can choose to have an abortion, but the guy is just stuck if the woman chooses to keep it?

So, we're comfortable with women not being responsible for the life of a child as a consequence of their consent to have sex. But we're also comfortable with a man being held responsible for the life of a child as a consequence of consent to have sex?

Can you see why it's less of a moral issue and more of an ethical one? It's a double standard. And while I wholly realize that a certain amount of those are inevitable as a consequence of our biology, I don't see this as an example of that.


You seem to think a father opting out of being a father is not a net negative on society simply out of selfishness. Yes, it sucks if the woman you knock up doesn't get an abortion but it is still your child. That child needs support and guess what? Since half of your DNA it is up to you to step up and be a man.
 
2012-07-30 02:49:38 AM  

sjcousins: That video just pissed me off, and I basically agree with what most of what they said.


You sound angry
 
2012-07-30 02:50:09 AM  

ontariolightning: When to Start Teaching Sex Education

Canada is definitely different from the United States and Britain on the question of when to start sex education in school. While only 13 per cent of Americans and 17 per cent of Britons would begin these courses at age 9 or earlier, one-in-four Canadians (24%) believe this is the ideal age to begin. About a third of respondents in the three countries believe the best time to start teaching sex education at school is between the ages of 12 and 13.

Almost one-in-ten Americans (9%) believe that schools should not teach sex education to students-a view shared by only three per cent of Canadians and two per cent of Britons.

The Curriculum

Practically nine-in-ten respondents in the three countries believe topics such as pregnancy and birth control, venereal diseases, sexual abuse, and bullying should be "definitely" or "probably" discussed in a sex education course. However, there are some stark contrasts in other topics:

- Abstinence: Canadians and Americans (both at 89%) are more likely to favour this topic than Britons (81%).
- Intercourse: Canadians (91%) and Britons (89%) more likely to favour this topic than Americans (77%).
- Non-penetrative sex: Canadians (82%) are more likely to favour this topic than Britons (74%) or Americans (66%).
- Abortion: Canadians (84%) and Britons (78%) are more likely to favour this topic than Americans (68%).
- Homosexuality: Canadians (86%) more likely to favour this topic than Britons (76%) and Americans (63%).
- Sexual Pleasure: While a majority of Canadians (69%) and Britons (62%) would like to see this topic discussed, less than half of Americans (46%) concur.


Curious, have you ever seen the South Park episode where they started teaching sex ed to all elementary students?

/Still trying to find that farking episode
 
2012-07-30 02:50:15 AM  
 
2012-07-30 02:50:26 AM  

Toxicphreke: Sabyen91       
 
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  2012-07-30 02:37:13 AM  
kasmel: Sabyen91: What kind of immoral piece of shiat would do this?

Do what exactly?

Not take care of a child he is responsible for fathering.

/I know it happens all the time but it doesn't make it right or ethical.

the same people who have abortions because they are not ready to be a parent.


I am sorry. It sucks but you still did the deed. You don't get to shirk your responsibility just because the woman doesn't get an abortion.
 
2012-07-30 02:51:13 AM  

kasmel: Sabyen91: Not take care of a child he is responsible for fathering.

/I know it happens all the time but it doesn't make it right or ethical.

See, this brings us to the heart of the entire debate.

At what point does the man become responsible for a child? The moment he consents to have sex? Why is that?

Seriously, I want you to think this through logically, not emotionally. I can completely understand that there are cultural pain points WRT dead-beat dads etc, but this is not what I'm talking about.

If a couple is married, and they decide to have children, and the father walks out and refuses to assist years later, that's an entirely different scenario. That guy is a douchebag. He signed up for kids. He consented, tacitly or explicitly for the responsibility of raising children.

I'm talking about two people, maybe just started dating, whatever, end up getting pregnant. The guy is not ready or simply not interested in being a father. Why is he held to being responsible for the life of a child anymore than the woman is? The woman can choose to have an abortion, but the guy is just stuck if the woman chooses to keep it?

So, we're comfortable with women not being responsible for the life of a child as a consequence of their consent to have sex. But we're also comfortable with a man being held responsible for the life of a child as a consequence of consent to have sex?

Can you see why it's less of a moral issue and more of an ethical one? It's a double standard. And while I wholly realize that a certain amount of those are inevitable as a consequence of our biology, I don't see this as an example of that.


This is just so much misogynous whining. It reminds me of white people who go to Hawaii and find themselves suddenly to be less than the top dog and whine about how the Hawaiians are so racist.

You're carrying a loaded gun. You can't call take backs once the bullet has left the barrel.
 
2012-07-30 02:52:15 AM  

cman: ontariolightning: When to Start Teaching Sex Education

Canada is definitely different from the United States and Britain on the question of when to start sex education in school. While only 13 per cent of Americans and 17 per cent of Britons would begin these courses at age 9 or earlier, one-in-four Canadians (24%) believe this is the ideal age to begin. About a third of respondents in the three countries believe the best time to start teaching sex education at school is between the ages of 12 and 13.

Almost one-in-ten Americans (9%) believe that schools should not teach sex education to students-a view shared by only three per cent of Canadians and two per cent of Britons.

The Curriculum

Practically nine-in-ten respondents in the three countries believe topics such as pregnancy and birth control, venereal diseases, sexual abuse, and bullying should be "definitely" or "probably" discussed in a sex education course. However, there are some stark contrasts in other topics:

- Abstinence: Canadians and Americans (both at 89%) are more likely to favour this topic than Britons (81%).
- Intercourse: Canadians (91%) and Britons (89%) more likely to favour this topic than Americans (77%).
- Non-penetrative sex: Canadians (82%) are more likely to favour this topic than Britons (74%) or Americans (66%).
- Abortion: Canadians (84%) and Britons (78%) are more likely to favour this topic than Americans (68%).
- Homosexuality: Canadians (86%) more likely to favour this topic than Britons (76%) and Americans (63%).
- Sexual Pleasure: While a majority of Canadians (69%) and Britons (62%) would like to see this topic discussed, less than half of Americans (46%) concur.

Curious, have you ever seen the South Park episode where they started teaching sex ed to all elementary students?

/Still trying to find that farking episode


That was a hilarious one
 
2012-07-30 02:53:37 AM  

cman: Curious, have you ever seen the South Park episode where they started teaching sex ed to all elementary students?

/Still trying to find that farking episode



Season 5, Episode 7
 
2012-07-30 02:53:48 AM  

cman: /Still trying to find that farking episode


"Proper Condom Use."
 
2012-07-30 02:54:19 AM  
I think we should turn our attention back to the olympics again. Much more interesting!
 
2012-07-30 02:54:34 AM  

mgshamster: cman: Curious, have you ever seen the South Park episode where they started teaching sex ed to all elementary students?

/Still trying to find that farking episode


Season 5, Episode 7


thanks
 
2012-07-30 02:54:46 AM  
If that's your entire criteria for voting for or against someone, you're pretty damned shallow. There are a lot more important things to be worrying about.
 
2012-07-30 02:54:48 AM  
I was thinking about this skit the whole time I was watching that video. Link
 
2012-07-30 02:55:22 AM  
Hah, oh that was funny! No seriously though, make me a sandwich.
 
2012-07-30 02:56:48 AM  
My cousin told me in school hes learning about masturbation
and that its normal, everyone does it, and its not something to be ashamed of
 
2012-07-30 02:57:12 AM  

TalenLee: WTF Indeed: Yes, but at least making it made them feel good. Then the people watching it will share it on Facebook, making them feel good. Then it will be on TV shows talking about how watching it made them feel good. Nothing constructive was done, but at least a lot of people felt good.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the nation of America was founded on ideas, right? Why is it so unlikely that there, the promotion, the distillation, the distribution of powerful ideas, new ways to think about old problems, could have some impact?


Way too many commas in there.
 
2012-07-30 02:57:16 AM  

ontariolightning: Practically nine-in-ten respondents in the three countries believe topics such as pregnancy and birth control, venereal diseases, sexual abuse, and bullying should be "definitely" or "probably" discussed in a sex education course.


Discussed yes, slide shows/video hell no!

In 8th grade we had to watch a video on the whole process of creating a baby which also included a full on frontal feed of a birth.

There is nothing that could have ever prepared me for the images I saw in our STD slide show. I've been exposed to them a few times now through school and then the military but after that first time I can't even look at the screen anymore.
 
2012-07-30 02:59:09 AM  

Tenatra: ontariolightning: Practically nine-in-ten respondents in the three countries believe topics such as pregnancy and birth control, venereal diseases, sexual abuse, and bullying should be "definitely" or "probably" discussed in a sex education course.

Discussed yes, slide shows/video hell no!

In 8th grade we had to watch a video on the whole process of creating a baby which also included a full on frontal feed of a birth.

There is nothing that could have ever prepared me for the images I saw in our STD slide show. I've been exposed to them a few times now through school and then the military but after that first time I can't even look at the screen anymore.


ive seen the same slides... ya, i still can see them if i think about it
geez, its scary shiat
 
2012-07-30 03:00:10 AM  

LaughingRadish: If that's your entire criteria for voting for or against someone, you're pretty damned shallow. There are a lot more important things to be worrying about.


Damn right. We need to focus on voting more pairs of good tits into Congress.
 
2012-07-30 03:01:27 AM  
I never got any sex ed class my whole time through school and I turned out just fine. I think it's just a way for parents to try to cop out of their own duties and slug them off onto teachers.
 
2012-07-30 03:02:00 AM  

ontariolightning: Tenatra: ontariolightning: Practically nine-in-ten respondents in the three countries believe topics such as pregnancy and birth control, venereal diseases, sexual abuse, and bullying should be "definitely" or "probably" discussed in a sex education course.

Discussed yes, slide shows/video hell no!

In 8th grade we had to watch a video on the whole process of creating a baby which also included a full on frontal feed of a birth.

There is nothing that could have ever prepared me for the images I saw in our STD slide show. I've been exposed to them a few times now through school and then the military but after that first time I can't even look at the screen anymore.

ive seen the same slides... ya, i still can see them if i think about it
geez, its scary shiat


Find a medical textbook from the 1930s or 1940s about dermatology and turn to the section on STDs. Yowzers.
 
2012-07-30 03:02:37 AM  
It's my sperm, biatch.
 
2012-07-30 03:04:01 AM  

AverageAmericanGuy: The war on women that the right wing is waging in this country is a travesty on the order of the subjugation of women in Afghanistan or the oppression of women in Saudi Arabia. The religious zealots have turned the useful teachings of religion into justifications of their own beliefs and insecurities. Not that religion was ever teaching anything particularly good in the first place, being a justification for the misogynist culture of ancient goat herders in the first place.


Nope. In Afghanistan the elders of a village will gang rape a woman who is seen walking with a man other than her husband.

And you are saying this is the same as people having a pro life stance ?

Try again Capt. Exaggeration.
 
2012-07-30 03:04:38 AM  
"This is my body. Not yours. The work I produce with my body is mine, and the earnings I make from that work, from my body, are also mine. Not yours. Not your doctor's, not your not-for-profit's, not your government's. Your desire to continue the funding for your healthcare, your contraception, your abortion, or your child has NOTHING TO DO with my right to defend myself against theft and slavery.

When I want sex, I have the right to demand an equitable exchange of service, of affection, and of reproduction. My desire for an orgasm is not scary, nor threatening, nor perverse, nor criminal. My sexual activity exists for my benefit, not your profit. And it is never my fault if I impregnate you. I accept no responsibility regarding your pregnancy. This is my body. Not yours."

Videotape that, and watch in amazement as Jezebel and Feministing overload their servers denouncing it.

/Could have gotten more, if I'd made it past the 2:20 mark.
//Do they realize they've created self-parody?
 
2012-07-30 03:06:01 AM  

bhcompy: It's my sperm, biatch.


Hey now, you gave it away of your own volition.
 
2012-07-30 03:06:05 AM  
So is it about abortion or ObamaCare?

/dnwtfv
//dnrtft
 
2012-07-30 03:06:11 AM  
I'm aware that abortion isn't something that's taken as lightly by its advocates as what the pro-life crowd thinks. But I disagree with the argument that a fetus is not a life. We know that life ends when the heart stops beating and the brain dies. So it's logical to say that life begins when a fetus has a heartbeat and neural activity. A heartbeat and individual brain waves can be detected in a fetus as young as 40 days.

Then there how abortion laws favor the woman and only the woman. The man has little to no say in it. As the law stands now, if a man has sex with a woman, even oral sex, and the woman then uses his sperm to impregnate herself, he is financially responsible for the child, he has no recourse. None.

Why should it be any different for women? Why do they get an out? Why does the woman have complete say over whether she raises a child? Why does she get to reach into a man's wallet at her whim and caprise and say, "You're paying for this kid I want"?

On the other side, if the man DOES want to raise the child, be completely financially responsible, and the woman says, "No, I don't think so," she can get an abortion. The man has no recourse. None.

The man has no say at all in a descision that also affects him.

All because of this idea that consent to sex is not the same as consent to become pregnant.

It produces a legal inequality that no law can justify.

If a man gets a woman pregnant and doesn't want to be a father, he's a selfish, inhumane, deadbeat dad. If a woman gets pregnant and doesn't want to be a mother, she's pro-choice.

There's also that though no method of pregnancy prevention is 100% effective, the overwhelming majority of abortions that are the result of consensual sex wouldn't happen if the couples involved used some form of pregnancy prevention.
 
2012-07-30 03:06:19 AM  
tl;dw
 
2012-07-30 03:06:50 AM  
That's cool and all, but just last night, I witnessed a woman argue with a cabbie that the guy she had been with was paying her fare, "because he's the man, and that's how [she] roll[s]".
 
2012-07-30 03:07:16 AM  

armor helix: AverageAmericanGuy: The war on women that the right wing is waging in this country is a travesty on the order of the subjugation of women in Afghanistan or the oppression of women in Saudi Arabia. The religious zealots have turned the useful teachings of religion into justifications of their own beliefs and insecurities. Not that religion was ever teaching anything particularly good in the first place, being a justification for the misogynist culture of ancient goat herders in the first place.

Nope. In Afghanistan the elders of a village will gang rape a woman who is seen walking with a man other than her husband.

And you are saying this is the same as people having a pro life stance ?

Try again Capt. Exaggeration.


Way to diminish the suffering of women in America.
 
2012-07-30 03:07:42 AM  
I also disagree with those who say there is never a good reason for getting an abortion.
 
2012-07-30 03:07:59 AM  

Toxicphreke: Well...I've been called someone with a small pecker and someone who can't find a woman to have sex with...oh and Shawn Kemp....but I'm still waiting for a rational rebuttal. Why does a man have to live with his choice to have sex but a woman does not? I have no problem with abortion in cases of rape rape or if they are medically necessarily, but as I pointed out, lifestyle choice is the main reason.


Here's a rational rebuttal for you. Someone should have told you what I told my brother when he was 13. If you don't want to have a baby, it is up to you to make sure that you don't have one. You cannot trust other people to make that decision for you. The minute you decide to have unprotected sex it is half your responsibility. Suck it up, buttercup, and stop being a douche.
 
2012-07-30 03:11:06 AM  
xl5150 2012-07-30 03:00:10 AM
(farky'd as: keep this in mind as an example of how you can all be manipulated 7229080)

Damn right. We need to focus on voting more pairs of good tits into Congress. After all, I know all about how easily you mush-wits can be manipulated. Just swing a pair of perky udders and watch the idiot voters drool.

Dumb sh*t, the kittens are listening, man! They remember EVERYTHING!!

Loose lips sink sh*ts.
 
2012-07-30 03:11:49 AM  
heidinoele       
 
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  2012-07-30 03:07:59 AM  
Toxicphreke: Well...I've been called someone with a small pecker and someone who can't find a woman to have sex with...oh and Shawn Kemp....but I'm still waiting for a rational rebuttal. Why does a man have to live with his choice to have sex but a woman does not? I have no problem with abortion in cases of rape rape or if they are medically necessarily, but as I pointed out, lifestyle choice is the main reason.

Here's a rational rebuttal for you. Someone should have told you what I told my brother when he was 13. If you don't want to have a baby, it is up to you to make sure that you don't have one. You cannot trust other people to make that decision for you. The minute you decide to have unprotected sex it is half your responsibility. Suck it up, buttercup, and stop being a douche.


does this apply to women too?
 
2012-07-30 03:13:06 AM  

Lsherm: ...


The human body is sacrosanct. A human cannot be compelled to yield any part of their body, nor compelled to alter any part of their body, nor compelled to host any other organism.

No mandatory organ/blood donations, no blood sample repositories, no medical experimentation through either surgeries or infections, no requisite to carry pregnancies, no tattoos / chips / other identifying body modifications. etc.
 
2012-07-30 03:14:24 AM  

Toxicphreke: heidinoele       
 
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  2012-07-30 03:07:59 AM  
Toxicphreke: Well...I've been called someone with a small pecker and someone who can't find a woman to have sex with...oh and Shawn Kemp....but I'm still waiting for a rational rebuttal. Why does a man have to live with his choice to have sex but a woman does not? I have no problem with abortion in cases of rape rape or if they are medically necessarily, but as I pointed out, lifestyle choice is the main reason.

Here's a rational rebuttal for you. Someone should have told you what I told my brother when he was 13. If you don't want to have a baby, it is up to you to make sure that you don't have one. You cannot trust other people to make that decision for you. The minute you decide to have unprotected sex it is half your responsibility. Suck it up, buttercup, and stop being a douche.

does this apply to women too?


Who do you think the other half is?
 
2012-07-30 03:14:35 AM  
Repeat after me ladies, "Unless the government, doctors, or the law decides otherwise".

Be sure to link them the video while they're writing out the reality check and good luck to you.
 
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