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2012-07-29 01:21:14 PM
Maybe some application where you need a simple display, driven by a PC, that doesn't change very often and relies on battery power.?

I can't really think of one, but no doubt someone has.
 
2012-07-29 01:25:48 PM
Ingredients for doing this with Kindle DX:

Kindle-jailbreak-0.10.N.zip, from the MobileRead Forums
Kindle-usbnetwork-0.37.N.zip, from the same MobileRead thread
Kindle VNC Viewer
TightVNC, a VNC server
PuTTY or another Telnet client


Ingredients for doing this with iPad/Mac

AirDisplay.

How to Instructions: download and launch Airdisplay.
 
2012-07-29 01:33:16 PM
...or, you know, just hook up a second monitor to your PC.
 
2012-07-29 01:38:54 PM
Can anyone explain why someone would want to do this?

They realized that for some insane reason they bought a Kindle Fire and were determined to find an actual use for it?
 
2012-07-29 02:00:59 PM
You can use it to create a low-power display for an outdoor kiosk.
 
2012-07-29 02:21:40 PM
Perhaps if you were attempting to construct a mnemonic memory circuit, using stone knives and bearskins?
 
2012-07-29 05:12:40 PM
Because geeks like to do random stuff just for geek cred. My favorite is still turning a toaster into an SNES.
 
2012-07-29 06:00:59 PM
GAT_00: They realized that for some insane reason they bought a Kindle Fire and were determined to find an actual use for it?

Totalfail.

// Kindle DX != Kindle FIre

mr_a: Maybe some application where you need a simple display, driven by a PC, that doesn't change very often and relies on battery power.?

That,

E-ink screens only consume power while changing what's displayed. For the majority of devices, the screen is always the biggest power drain.

I assume they can run this off of similarly low powered hardware (like a raspberry pi).

// also assuming that they can still use the free 3G that comes with the DX. They would have an ultra low power portable computer with internet access. I can't think of any application off the top of my head that would require this (other than for the sake of being 'green'), because I doubt that setup would be able to survive trucking around in Baja.
 
2012-07-29 06:09:55 PM
FTA:
Setting your Kindle DX up as a second monitor is a great trick, but it also can be useful in situations where screen glare on your regular monitor is hurting your eyes.
 
2012-07-29 06:19:38 PM
I know people that have used external monitors on their laptop because the internal one was cracked, or broken.

In fact, you can get some really good laptops DIRT cheap if you don't mind a broken screen.
I once saw a quad core on Craigslist, only 8 months old, for $30.
 
2012-07-29 06:19:45 PM

RexTalionis: You can use it to create a low-power display for an outdoor kiosk.


LOL WATT?
 
2012-07-29 06:20:27 PM

RexTalionis: You can use it to create a low-power display for an outdoor kiosk.


Ya know, if I'm building an outdoor kiosk and wanted an e-ink display I'd just order one.

I say that jokingly, because NO ONE ACTUALLY SELLS THE DAMNED DISPLAYS to the DIY market. It probably would be easier to buy the ad-ware model from Amazon and crack open the case.
 
2012-07-29 06:36:24 PM

HighlanderRPI: RexTalionis: You can use it to create a low-power display for an outdoor kiosk.

LOL WATT?


Nice.
 
2012-07-29 07:07:17 PM

GAT_00: Can anyone explain why someone would want to do this?

They realized that for some insane reason they bought a Kindle Fire and were determined to find an actual use for it?


If there's anyone out there that has a Kindle Fire that they don't have any use for, EIP. I'll happily take it off of your hands.
 
2012-07-29 07:11:43 PM
lol at figuring out how a VNC works.. PC World is so retarded.. It's like Wired for middle aged hipsters
 
2012-07-29 07:33:55 PM

unyon: Ingredients for doing this with Kindle DX:

Kindle-jailbreak-0.10.N.zip, from the MobileRead Forums
Kindle-usbnetwork-0.37.N.zip, from the same MobileRead thread
Kindle VNC Viewer
TightVNC, a VNC server
PuTTY or another Telnet client

Ingredients for doing this with iPad/Mac

AirDisplay.

How to Instructions: download and launch Airdisplay.


Amazing, I had no idea that AirDisplay was so incredibly powerful that it could turn the display on your iPad or Mac into an e-ink display. Truly, Apple can do anything.
 
2012-07-29 07:44:30 PM
....why not?
 
2012-07-29 08:17:46 PM
Because, submittard, the display is superiour when displaying text.
 
2012-07-29 08:18:01 PM
Are you ready?
 
2012-07-29 08:21:51 PM

HighlanderRPI: RexTalionis: You can use it to create a low-power display for an outdoor kiosk.

LOL WATT?


Very good. +1 internets for you.
 
2012-07-29 08:26:18 PM
It's called multiscreen display and it's very useful. You can have a program running on one screen and the OS on the other. Programmers use it. Artists use it. Gamers use it. For instance, you can be stuffing your face with cheetohs while playing WoW and also trolling FARK at the same time.
 
2012-07-29 08:30:01 PM

Mikey1969: eyes

 
2012-07-29 08:40:13 PM

natmar_76: It's called multiscreen display and it's very useful. You can have a program running on one screen and the OS on the other. Programmers use it. Artists use it. Gamers use it. For instance, you can be stuffing your face with cheetohs while playing WoW and also trolling FARK at the same time.


Using multiple screens while working in Photoshop is different than doing it while playing video games. I've never had it go smoothly trying to jump out of the games into the real world, something always gets farked up on the game.

Subby still had a valid point for why you would set THIS up as your secondary display though. I think you would have to really want this to bother with such a tiny display for your secondary... You can buy a 22" LCD for something like $130 now...
 
2012-07-29 08:45:41 PM
Why? The same reason why people do a lot of unnecessary shiat. Because they can.
 
2012-07-29 08:46:26 PM
Because it's something you already have and you don't want to buy another screen. Because you can. For the hell of it. Why not?

People do crazy things with electronics just to see what's possible.
 
2012-07-29 08:51:03 PM

Mikey1969: Using multiple screens while working in Photoshop is different than doing it while playing video games. I've never had it go smoothly trying to jump out of the games into the real world, something always gets farked up on the game.


Most games have a 'windowed fullscreen' mode these days that solves that issue.
 
2012-07-29 08:51:44 PM
And as a final insult to common sense, the assclown put the taskbar at the top of the screen in the final screen shot.
 
2012-07-29 09:00:17 PM

TommyymmoT: I know people that have used external monitors on their laptop because the internal one was cracked, or broken.

In fact, you can get some really good laptops DIRT cheap if you don't mind a broken screen.
I once saw a quad core on Craigslist, only 8 months old, for $30.


I gave a dead iMac to a friend at work. Older White-Body iMac, but it has an Intel chip. The display was getting vertical lines on it, the user would see a new one grow every few days. There was no way that we would pay to have it fixed, but my buddy just hooked up an external monitor and has a perfectly functional computer now.

As far as laptops go, I'm buying a nice HP from a friend for $250, people are reporting assorted issues with this one historically, but I can always find one for parts, just like you mentioned($35-$50), so I'm pretty stoked.
 
2012-07-29 09:01:22 PM
Possibly, people would use a Kindle DX computer display to read books and magazines stored on a PC or the internet. Which, y'know, is the point of a Kindle.
 
2012-07-29 09:03:17 PM

Mikey1969: natmar_76: It's called multiscreen display and it's very useful. You can have a program running on one screen and the OS on the other. Programmers use it. Artists use it. Gamers use it. For instance, you can be stuffing your face with cheetohs while playing WoW and also trolling FARK at the same time.

Using multiple screens while working in Photoshop is different than doing it while playing video games. I've never had it go smoothly trying to jump out of the games into the real world, something always gets farked up on the game.

Subby still had a valid point for why you would set THIS up as your secondary display though. I think you would have to really want this to bother with such a tiny display for your secondary... You can buy a 22" LCD for something like $130 now...


The Logitech G series keyboards have a nice 2 line by ~15 character display built into them for status readouts of your game (health, ammo, team score, etc) or application (who's speaking in a teach chat)... Hack the API into this thing... =)

Also, you should look into games that have a borderless maximized window instead of a true full screen game. Left 4 Dead 2, for example, has a "Window (Borderless)" display mode that will look full screen but when you alt-tab, it behaves just like any other program.
 
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2012-07-29 09:27:18 PM

Mikey1969: TommyymmoT: I know people that have used external monitors on their laptop because the internal one was cracked, or broken.

In fact, you can get some really good laptops DIRT cheap if you don't mind a broken screen.
I once saw a quad core on Craigslist, only 8 months old, for $30.

I gave a dead iMac to a friend at work. Older White-Body iMac, but it has an Intel chip. The display was getting vertical lines on it, the user would see a new one grow every few days. There was no way that we would pay to have it fixed, but my buddy just hooked up an external monitor and has a perfectly functional computer now.

As far as laptops go, I'm buying a nice HP from a friend for $250, people are reporting assorted issues with this one historically, but I can always find one for parts, just like you mentioned($35-$50), so I'm pretty stoked.


I've asked for and used free laptops for years that way. The screen would be broke and I'd just shut off "sleep when lid closed" plug in an external monitor and USB keyboard and be on my way.
 
2012-07-29 09:56:49 PM

aspAddict: Are you ready?


Think you can tell us what to do?
 
2012-07-29 10:01:34 PM
Wouldn't with vnc just be a clone of your primary monitor and not a secondary monitor as implyed?
 
2012-07-29 11:39:21 PM
Actually, that display would be good for vitals on the PC if integrated into a case...
 
2012-07-29 11:45:40 PM

Mikey1969: natmar_76: It's called multiscreen display and it's very useful. You can have a program running on one screen and the OS on the other. Programmers use it. Artists use it. Gamers use it. For instance, you can be stuffing your face with cheetohs while playing WoW and also trolling FARK at the same time.

Using multiple screens while working in Photoshop is different than doing it while playing video games. I've never had it go smoothly trying to jump out of the games into the real world, something always gets farked up on the game.

Subby still had a valid point for why you would set THIS up as your secondary display though. I think you would have to really want this to bother with such a tiny display for your secondary... You can buy a 22" LCD for something like $130 now...


I would like a second display, but I dont have room, but being able to use a tablet as a second screen is doable, I can just prop it up against my tower.

It works great to keep an eye on e-mail while gaming or working with something that works better in full-screen, like remote desktop
 
2012-07-29 11:47:10 PM

Teufelaffe: unyon: Ingredients for doing this with Kindle DX:

Kindle-jailbreak-0.10.N.zip, from the MobileRead Forums
Kindle-usbnetwork-0.37.N.zip, from the same MobileRead thread
Kindle VNC Viewer
TightVNC, a VNC server
PuTTY or another Telnet client

Ingredients for doing this with iPad/Mac

AirDisplay.

How to Instructions: download and launch Airdisplay.

Amazing, I had no idea that AirDisplay was so incredibly powerful that it could turn the display on your iPad or Mac into an e-ink display. Truly, Apple can do anything.


Truly, you're an imbecile. I'm pointing out that this is a long since solved problem, and you shiat on it. I thought rewarding simple solutions to complex problems was a good thing, but apparently I'm mistaken.
 
2012-07-30 12:02:15 AM
Useful for reading things like code and PDFs. This isn't a bad idea, actually. I'd really like to have an E-ink monitor.
 
2012-07-30 12:02:26 AM

Almet: I would like a second display, but I dont have room, but being able to use a tablet as a second screen is doable, I can just prop it up against my tower.

It works great to keep an eye on e-mail while gaming or working with something that works better in full-screen, like remote desktop


Same here. Hell, I wasn't even interested in a tablet, but a cheap one to use as a second display would be super sweet.
 
kab
2012-07-30 12:46:12 AM
Can anyone explain why someone would want to do this?

No.

Then again, I ask the same question when someone touts how fun it is to watch a movie or TV show on an ipad / iphone / laptop.
 
2012-07-30 12:47:07 AM

unyon: I'm pointing out that this is a long since solved problem,


Sure, if you cough up the extra $300 for an iPad as opposed to a Kindle DX.

And you're the one doing the shiatting. Someone makes something cool and you chime in with "Oh you can already do this with an Apple product". GTFO, we're talking about doing this on a Kindle.
 
2012-07-30 01:09:01 AM

unyon: Ingredients for doing this with Kindle DX:

Kindle-jailbreak-0.10.N.zip, from the MobileRead Forums
Kindle-usbnetwork-0.37.N.zip, from the same MobileRead thread
Kindle VNC Viewer
TightVNC, a VNC server
PuTTY or another Telnet client

Ingredients for doing this with iPad/Mac

AirDisplay.

How to Instructions: download and launch Airdisplay.


Which has been amazing for me. I just started a new contract gig that requires a lot of instructions in a .doc and for Photoshop and Final Cut Pro 7 to be perpetually open. It goes a lot faster and more efficiently now that each program has its own screen.
 
2012-07-30 02:25:24 AM

unyon: Ingredients for doing this with Kindle DX:

Kindle-jailbreak-0.10.N.zip, from the MobileRead Forums
Kindle-usbnetwork-0.37.N.zip, from the same MobileRead thread
Kindle VNC Viewer
TightVNC, a VNC server
PuTTY or another Telnet client

Ingredients for doing this with iPad/Mac

AirDisplay.

How to Instructions: download and launch Airdisplay.


Of course the ipad and mac will cost you about twice as much. Simpler, yes, but that convenience comes at a cost.
 
2012-07-30 02:44:49 AM

unyon: Teufelaffe: unyon: Ingredients for doing this with Kindle DX:

Kindle-jailbreak-0.10.N.zip, from the MobileRead Forums
Kindle-usbnetwork-0.37.N.zip, from the same MobileRead thread
Kindle VNC Viewer
TightVNC, a VNC server
PuTTY or another Telnet client

Ingredients for doing this with iPad/Mac

AirDisplay.

How to Instructions: download and launch Airdisplay.

Amazing, I had no idea that AirDisplay was so incredibly powerful that it could turn the display on your iPad or Mac into an e-ink display. Truly, Apple can do anything.

Truly, you're an imbecile. I'm pointing out that this is a long since solved problem, and you shiat on it. I thought rewarding simple solutions to complex problems was a good thing, but apparently I'm mistaken.


No, you were sucking some Apple cock in an attempt to show everyone just how cool you are.

Yes, there are apps for both the iOS and Android that allow you to use your tablet as a computer display. However, those are useless with a non-iOS or Android device like the Kindle DX, so the fact that those apps exist is irrelevant to the subject at hand. But, by all means, go right ahead and tell us about what wonderful things you can do with devices and operating systems that have nothing to do with TFA.
 
2012-07-30 03:58:31 AM
Ultimate full-sunlight readability?

(Seriously, e-ink has a *massive* advantage over all other display types in full sunlight)
 
2012-07-30 05:18:35 AM

RedPhoenix122: Because geeks like to do random stuff just for geek cred. My favorite is still turning a toaster into an SNES.


I once turned a toaster into a DVD burner.

Now it can burn illegal toast.
 
2012-07-30 07:10:47 AM

Teufelaffe: unyon: Teufelaffe: unyon: Ingredients for doing this with Kindle DX:

Kindle-jailbreak-0.10.N.zip, from the MobileRead Forums
Kindle-usbnetwork-0.37.N.zip, from the same MobileRead thread
Kindle VNC Viewer
TightVNC, a VNC server
PuTTY or another Telnet client

Ingredients for doing this with iPad/Mac

AirDisplay.

How to Instructions: download and launch Airdisplay.

Amazing, I had no idea that AirDisplay was so incredibly powerful that it could turn the display on your iPad or Mac into an e-ink display. Truly, Apple can do anything.

Truly, you're an imbecile. I'm pointing out that this is a long since solved problem, and you shiat on it. I thought rewarding simple solutions to complex problems was a good thing, but apparently I'm mistaken.

No, you were sucking some Apple cock in an attempt to show everyone just how cool you are.

Yes, there are apps for both the iOS and Android that allow you to use your tablet as a computer display. However, those are useless with a non-iOS or Android device like the Kindle DX, so the fact that those apps exist is irrelevant to the subject at hand. But, by all means, go right ahead and tell us about what wonderful things you can do with devices and operating systems that have nothing to do with TFA.


i.imgur.com
 
2012-07-30 07:22:30 AM

natmar_76: Same here. Hell, I wasn't even interested in a tablet, but a cheap one to use as a second display would be super sweet.


The Kindle DX is $379.

I usually love things like this where people repurpose some piece of technology even if it's just for the sake of doing it. But... I really fail to see the usefulness here. I mean, people realize this isn't an LCD right? It's a black-and-white, 1 Hz display that flashes all black between screen refreshes. I can possibly imagine using it to display email, but wouldn't it be easier just to load up an email client on the thing than use it as a remote desktop?
 
2012-07-30 07:46:31 AM

unyon: Ingredients for doing this with iPad/Mac

AirDisplay.

How to Instructions: download and launch Airdisplay.


Although the underlying technology used in AirDisplay is pretty much the same as listed for making it a version of it on the Kindle; you also encounter the same, tell-tale lag associated with a VNC driven display.

I suspect, given time, someone will make a much nicer and easier to install version of it for the Kindle, similar to how some of the early screen reflector stuff for the slates was... kinda klunky to get going.
 
2012-07-30 09:02:15 AM

Mikey1969:

I gave a dead iMac to a friend at work. Older White-Body iMac, but it has an Intel chip. The display was getting vertical lines on it, the user would see a new one grow every few days. There was no way that we would pay to have it fixed, but my buddy just hooked up an external monitor and has a perfectly functional computer now.


As it's a polycarb shell you can get in to them without being a Dalek, a bit of googling, the iFixit guide and an hours worth of big n' brave with the screwdrivers later he'd have both displays running for far less than an Apple authorised repair.

It's going to be a pretty generic panel they used after all, just got to get the same (or compatible) unit and they're probably still being made for other stuff.
 
2012-07-30 09:42:31 AM

dukeblue219: natmar_76: Same here. Hell, I wasn't even interested in a tablet, but a cheap one to use as a second display would be super sweet.

The Kindle DX is $379.

I usually love things like this where people repurpose some piece of technology even if it's just for the sake of doing it. But... I really fail to see the usefulness here. I mean, people realize this isn't an LCD right? It's a black-and-white, 1 Hz display that flashes all black between screen refreshes. I can possibly imagine using it to display email, but wouldn't it be easier just to load up an email client on the thing than use it as a remote desktop?


You realize that unlike an LCD monitor, you can read this while standing outside in full sunlight, right? If I could get a laptop with an epaper primary display and a reasonable refresh rate, I'd do it in a heartbeat, because that would mean I could work outside when I wanted to.
 
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