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(AlterNet)   Five "scientific conclusions" about cannabis the media doesn't want you to know. Missing from the list: marijuana is, in fact, a drug that impairs judgment and shouldn't be treated lightly, just like alcohol   (alternet.org) divider line 384
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2012-07-29 03:55:50 PM  
5. The schedule I classification of cannabis is a lie; the science says so

read that one again: 5. The schedule I classification of cannabis is a lie; the science says so

you cannot argue with these facts. this has been scientifically proven - cannabis does not meet the requirements of Schedule I. you MUST accept this fact, you have no choice in the matter. And once you do admit to the facts involved...then the entire argument against legalization falls apart.
 
2012-07-29 03:57:04 PM  
Does Trolly McTrollmitter get time-and-a-half on Sundays?
 
2012-07-29 04:02:36 PM  

DrBenway: Does Trolly McTrollmitter get time-and-a-half on Sundays?


Green-and-a-half is my guess

/and a fattie
 
2012-07-29 04:02:58 PM  
Cannabis has been responsible for, (last time I checked), exactly 0 deaths from overdose.

About the only ways cannabis can kill you is if:
A bale of it falls on your head
An organized crime gangster kills you in a dispute involving it
An overzealous drug cop kills you in a dispute involving it
You light yourself on fire in a strange accident involving a joint, lighter fluid and a malfunctioning barbeque while attempting to satisfy your munchies
Cheetos overdose, which is no laughing matter


Legalize it, regulate it, make it safe
 
2012-07-29 04:20:25 PM  
Hey subby, right there on the page is a handy clickable link that gives a URL like this: http://www.alternet.org/drugs/five-scientific-conclusions-about-canna b is-mainstream-media-doesnt-want-you-know?paging=off

Which results in a much more readable article. Is that really so hard?
 
2012-07-29 04:33:18 PM  
So I take it from the headline that Subby supports alcohol prohibition.
 
2012-07-29 04:34:28 PM  
4. Cannabis use is associated with only marginal increases in traffic accident risk

Bill Hicks: Say you get in a car accident and you've been smoking pot? You're only going 4 miles an hour. ::Crashhh:: "shiat we hit something." "Forgot to open the garage door, dude." "We got to get the garage door open so Domino's knows we're home!"
 
2012-07-29 04:50:12 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: So I take it from the headline that Subby supports alcohol prohibition.


I read the headline to mean marijuana legalization with some restrictions, like alcohol.
 
2012-07-29 04:57:15 PM  

Ryan2065: The My Little Pony Killer: So I take it from the headline that Subby supports alcohol prohibition.

I read the headline to mean marijuana legalization with some restrictions, like alcohol.


I could live with that.
 
2012-07-29 05:51:27 PM  
Marijuana has a variety of problems that potheads refuse to admit. It's not a wonder drug and has drawbacks, especially in the age group that its mainly frequented by (young males) in popular culture.

But holy fark this entire weed prohibition bullshiat is ridiculous, costs money, ruins lives, and has absolutely no positive side-effects to go along with it. Who the fark still thinks this is a good idea?
 
2012-07-29 05:51:41 PM  

Ryan2065: The My Little Pony Killer: So I take it from the headline that Subby supports alcohol prohibition.

I read the headline to mean marijuana legalization with some restrictions, like alcohol.


That's how I read it -- and it seems reasonable. It should be legal, but obviously it *is* a drug and needs to be treated with some degree of respect just like alcohol or legal prescription pain meds.
 
2012-07-29 05:51:42 PM  
I thought that was a given?
 
2012-07-29 05:52:07 PM  
I quit smoking pot from 1980, to 2008.
I seems to have gotten a little stronger, in that time.
 
2012-07-29 05:53:25 PM  

tomWright: Cannabis has been responsible for, (last time I checked), exactly 0 deaths from overdose.

About the only ways cannabis can kill you is if:
A bale of it falls on your head
An organized crime gangster kills you in a dispute involving it
An overzealous drug cop kills you in a dispute involving it
You light yourself on fire in a strange accident involving a joint, lighter fluid and a malfunctioning barbeque while attempting to satisfy your munchies
Cheetos overdose, which is no laughing matter


Legalize it, regulate it, make it safe


Hey, the spiral Cheetos can be terribly dangerous if you OD on them. Which sucks, because I frekaing love the spiral Cheetos and will often binge on them, making my tummy hate me.

/dangerously cheesy
 
2012-07-29 05:53:38 PM  

Sargun: Marijuana has a variety of problems that potheads refuse to admit. It's not a wonder drug and has drawbacks, especially in the age group that its mainly frequented by (young males) in popular culture.

But holy fark this entire weed prohibition bullshiat is ridiculous, costs money, ruins lives, and has absolutely no positive side-effects to go along with it. Who the fark still thinks this is a good idea?


And alcohol and cigarettes don't do these same things?
 
2012-07-29 05:53:52 PM  
Getting high leads to telling longwinded pointless stories and engineering bongs out of anything your stoned mind can conceive from tools at hand.
 
2012-07-29 05:53:53 PM  
I got my OrIgone magical Mariana card back on...what happen to the snacks?
 
2012-07-29 05:54:29 PM  

Ryan2065: The My Little Pony Killer: So I take it from the headline that Subby supports alcohol prohibition.

I read the headline to mean marijuana legalization with some restrictions, like alcohol.


This.

/wishes people would stop needing drugs to enjoy their lives.
//particularly after watching other people either
a) die of diseases (like cancer) when they desperately wanted to live
b) forced to take meds so their brains to work *right* for once.
 
2012-07-29 05:54:51 PM  

Sargun: Marijuana has a variety of problems that potheads refuse to admit. It's not a wonder drug and has drawbacks, especially in the age group that its mainly frequented by (young males) in popular culture.

But holy fark this entire weed prohibition bullshiat is ridiculous, costs money, ruins lives, and has absolutely no positive side-effects to go along with it. Who the fark still thinks this is a good idea?


The prisons who profit from having every weed smoker locked away for two to five years.
 
2012-07-29 05:54:53 PM  

Mr. Potatoass: I quit smoking pot from 1980, to 2008.
I seems to have gotten a little stronger, in that time.


That's spinach you're smoking then.
 
2012-07-29 05:55:49 PM  
marijuana is, in fact, a drug that impairs judgment and shouldn't be treated lightly, just like alcohol

Citation needed.
 
2012-07-29 05:56:14 PM  
One of the barriers to getting pot legalized is a viable method of measuring how much someone has consumed and setting what constitutes impairment. We need a pot equivalent of the BAC test.

/I don't smoke pot
 
2012-07-29 05:56:55 PM  
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Its a plant... Legalize it...
 
2012-07-29 05:56:56 PM  
Wait, is subby saying that the media doesn't want you to know that marijuana is a drug?
 
2012-07-29 05:57:15 PM  

Fano: Getting high leads to telling longwinded pointless stories and engineering bongs out of anything your stoned mind can conceive from tools at hand.


I built a bong into my acoustic guitar, hows that multi-tasking corporate America?
 
2012-07-29 05:57:24 PM  
The really embarrassing thing is that subby is very likely a flaming liberal in most political threads.

Most righties don't give a f*ck about pot legalization. It really rustles the jimmies of some of our more liberal-than-thou posters, though. I guess I should find that funny or something.
 
2012-07-29 05:57:52 PM  

Mr. Eugenides: Mr. Potatoass: I quit smoking pot from 1980, to 2008.
I seems to have gotten a little stronger, in that time.

That's spinach you're smoking then.


"I'm strong to da finich, cause I smokes me spinach."

/several times Popeye did eat his spinach through his pipe
 
2012-07-29 05:57:58 PM  
Ever notice how the media always shows and interviews the biggest freaks at every pro-marijuana rally to make them appear to be fringe and dangerous?
 
2012-07-29 05:58:13 PM  

OgreMagi: One of the barriers to getting pot legalized is a viable method of measuring how much someone has consumed and setting what constitutes impairment. We need a pot equivalent of the BAC test.

/I don't smoke pot


Obviously.
 
2012-07-29 06:01:18 PM  

whidbey: Most righties don't give a f*ck about pot legalization.


They should if they want to cut government waste like they say they do.
 
2012-07-29 06:01:36 PM  
I just don't think cannabis impairs in a like manner to alcohol. High doses are a little unpleasant, so one just eases up. Only through oral administration, and even then only with effort, does it seem possible to become anything like drunk.
 
2012-07-29 06:02:02 PM  
I wish it was as easy to get it here in New York State as it is in California. I am on 17 different scips for various problems, all resulting in pain that could take down a rhino. Pot has fewer side effects than the meds I am on. They have to check my liver, kidneys and lungs every month by testing my blood. I also have Glaucoma, and take 3 different eye drops 2 a day. I also liked the way it made me feel, with not hangover in the morning. Of course, there is the munchies. My weight may suffer (I mean more then it has already). GIVE ME POT!
 
2012-07-29 06:02:22 PM  

Sargun: Marijuana has a variety of problems that potheads refuse to admit. It's not a wonder drug and has drawbacks, especially in the age group that its mainly frequented by (young males) in popular culture.


Tell us about these problems.
 
2012-07-29 06:03:27 PM  
Nice trolling headline, subby.

Some of my best decisions are made after a generous application of THC.

My worst decisions? All under the influence of booze.

That's why I quit drinking booze and dialed the reefer madness up to 11.
 
2012-07-29 06:03:35 PM  
I never understood the "It's a plant, it's natural and therefore is safe" mindset. poison ivy is a plant, would you smoke that?

That said, it's plainly obvious that pot is not a problem warranting militarization of our police force to save us. More lives are lost with our current policies then from the substance itself. Indeed, the solution is worse than the problem.

I have smoked plenty of dope in my life but do not use it these days or years. I don't care if you do, nor do I care if anyone does, however I would prefer those dollars go to official GDP instead of going to thug culture gangsters, cartel killers, banks and crooked politicians.

We can grow lettuce and broccoli in this country for less than a dollar a pound, but pot is greater than $50 per ounce for the shiattiest mexi-brick. It's stupid. Legalize it, let the market sort it out.
 
2012-07-29 06:04:22 PM  
1. Cannabis use is associated with lower mortality risk in patients with psychotic disorders

Well duh, the drug takes away your ambition, makes you lazy.
 
2012-07-29 06:04:23 PM  

davidphogan: whidbey: Most righties don't give a f*ck about pot legalization.

They should if they want to cut government waste like they say they do.


What I mean is that you're likely to get more pro-legalization arguments out of them these days, and the only derp I've heard about how bad pot is tends to be from some self-righteous overzealous liberal.
 
2012-07-29 06:04:42 PM  
Subby:

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2012-07-29 06:06:38 PM  

Makh: 4. Cannabis use is associated with only marginal increases in traffic accident risk

Bill Hicks: Say you get in a car accident and you've been smoking pot? You're only going 4 miles an hour. ::Crashhh:: "shiat we hit something." "Forgot to open the garage door, dude." "We got to get the garage door open so Domino's knows we're home!"


Sounds like the guy across the street that sometimes drives through my yard before he makes the turn.
 
2012-07-29 06:06:47 PM  

Ryan2065: The My Little Pony Killer: So I take it from the headline that Subby supports alcohol prohibition.

I read the headline to mean marijuana legalization with some restrictions, like alcohol.


Well, marijuana is already being treated far more harshly than alcohol (at least in the US), so that would be a pretty redundant observation at this point.
 
2012-07-29 06:07:05 PM  

OgreMagi: One of the barriers to getting pot legalized is a viable method of measuring how much someone has consumed and setting what constitutes impairment. We need a pot equivalent of the BAC test.

/I don't smoke pot


No. We need an impairment test period. It doesn't have to be pot specific.

If you just drove your car into my house I personally do not care if you are drunk, have not slept in 30 hours, high on your prescription medicine, just took a bunch of off the shelf cold medicine or benadryl. The issue is impairment and the test should test for it. Determining specific levels of certain chemicals is just bullshiat.
 
2012-07-29 06:07:35 PM  
Fact 6: Marijuana, unlike alcohol and tobacco, can easily be grown by anybody, nearly anywhere. Think about the job creators!
 
2012-07-29 06:07:57 PM  
Well said subby.

It's fine if someone wants to point out cannabis is not too dangerous. It's not OK to go overboard and do the same thing as the "bad guys."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_of_the_Whole_Mess
 
2012-07-29 06:08:30 PM  

whidbey: What I mean is that you're likely to get more pro-legalization arguments out of them these days, and the only derp I've heard about how bad pot is tends to be from some self-righteous overzealous liberal.


In California the same groups who funded the anti-gay marriage thing were also funding anti prop 19 organizations, so I'd think you should pay more attention. Lots of fundies still think it's the devil's weed.
 
2012-07-29 06:09:15 PM  
fark the market and fark the government. I should be able to grow it in the back yard next to the tomatoes.
 
2012-07-29 06:09:54 PM  

muldoon: pot is greater than $50 per ounce for the shiattiest mexi-brick. It's stupid.


Uhhhhh, MUCH greater. $50 = 1/8oz. 1oz = $400, not including breaks for buying in bulk, which most street dealers will not do.

Mind you, those are dispensary/street prices in the area I'm currently living in. At the dispensary I used to work at in CO we were letting eights go for $25 and zips go for $200. we were an exception, though.

YMMV
 
2012-07-29 06:11:36 PM  
Subby is partially right, pot is a drug and can impair your judgement. Although the effects are different. And no you are not as capable of driving as a sober person is. You are wrong.

/Go ahead get baked for all I care. Just stay away from the wheel while you are high thank you.
 
2012-07-29 06:11:45 PM  

muldoon: No. We need an impairment test period. It doesn't have to be pot specific.

If you just drove your car into my house I personally do not care if you are drunk, have not slept in 30 hours, high on your prescription medicine, just took a bunch of off the shelf cold medicine or benadryl. The issue is impairment and the test should test for it. Determining specific levels of certain chemicals is just bullshiat.


Why bother with that? Why not punish the guy driving his car into your house with the same punishment regardless of any circumstances beyond, "I was dodging that meteor" or "I was dodging your kid."
 
2012-07-29 06:12:30 PM  

davidphogan: whidbey: Most righties don't give a f*ck about pot legalization.

They should if they want to cut government waste like they say they do.


But they like having people to feel superior to.
 
2012-07-29 06:13:19 PM  
Marijuana inappropriately touched me at summer camp.
 
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