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2012-07-29 05:38:18 PM

Flying Lasagna Monster: [www.boomantribune.com image 628x419]

One picture says alot about Romney.


I don't always hold my wife, because I don't hold my wife at all.
 
2012-07-29 05:38:37 PM

Flying Lasagna Monster: [www.boomantribune.com image 628x419]

One picture says alot about Romney.


That picture gives me mega douche-chills.
 
2012-07-29 05:42:05 PM

RadioAaron: Flying Lasagna Monster: [www.boomantribune.com image 628x419]

One picture says alot about Romney.

That picture gives me mega douche-chills.


It doesn't matter.

There are an embarrassing number of Americans who think Romney has the goods on Obama regarding business and the economy. And they're going to vote for him.
 
2012-07-29 05:42:48 PM
Thanks Mitt, for presuming we want another war all under of of being a presumptive nominee in an election that has not taken place nor has the convention that would make you the nominee so you would just be slightly closer to having the moral and governmental authority to suggest such a promise.

Black Sabbath - War Pigs (1970) (youtube....this ought to be the GOP anthem)

Would be correct to assume none of your sons are going to be signing up for the fight if it happens the way you want?
 
2012-07-29 05:42:56 PM

Curious: propasaurus: Don't worry, I'm sure at some point he'll tell us what a failure Obama is for not closing Guantanamo.

i won't equate starting a war with closing Gitmo but damn it all Obama promised.

yeah it's just one of many broken promises but it's an important one. if Obama wanted any cred for that peace prize that sure would have added some.

Obama spent his first two years rolling over for this group or that one and we all have suffered because of it. and what did he gain? the farking teaparty in 2010. great trade asshole.

yes i will vote for him again.


Your concern is duly noted.
 
2012-07-29 05:44:08 PM

cameroncrazy1984: wozzeck: and that Israel does not have any way of transporting significantly large ground forces 1000 miles.

...

You think a modern army and air force has no way of transporting ground forces 1000 miles? Seriously?


The US is the only country with any real force projection powers. The British and French combined could probably do so but that is about everyone that could support enough troops for such an operation.

The Israeli Air Force has maybe 20 heavy lift aircraft and they are only C-130s and 707s. The Israeli Navy has even less transport capability.

They also lack a location to launch a ground invasion from, compared to the US having Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. And there is no large rebel force to do most of the work like in Afghanistan.

Further, the Israeli Army has a total active strength of just over half the number of troops involved in the invasion of Iraq and would require calling up a huge proportion of reserves to invade Iran while fighting a renewed insurgency at home.

Sure Israel could land small raiding forces and probably even occupy a town or two, but they lack the forces to actually invade Iran.
 
2012-07-29 05:44:44 PM

Surool: Mikey1969: Surool: Mikey1969: Romney to Israel: "If you guys want to go ahead and bomb Iran, I got your back" "You didn't build that"

I have yet to see anyone who makes a claim of submitting a better headline actually show one.

Remember Israel? The nation founded by the UN and the largest recipient of US aid? Yeah, Romney calls them "the startup nation". Need for a 'You Didn't Build That' tag grows

Personally, I thought this ws the better version of the two articles, and the whole 'startup nation' thing was the dumbest part, IMHO.

Not slighting you concept, but the execution wasn't there for a green.


Better executed than this one, IMHO, and the story was better. That's OK though,, getting used to it on Fark. I've seen some pretty vanilla shiat get greened when other people had better ones, too.
 
2012-07-29 05:46:51 PM

dywed88: Sure Israel could land small raiding forces and probably even occupy a town or two, but they lack the forces to actually invade Iran.


All the more reason to let them fight their OWN battles. How many people did they send to Iraq and Afghanistan(combined) again? We'lll send them just as many.
 
2012-07-29 05:47:17 PM

RyogaM: "You're on a life-boat, with five other people. You will all starve if you don't kill and eat one other passenger. Do you do it? If so, how do you choose the person?"


No, because you didn't say we'd die from starvation.
 
2012-07-29 05:52:17 PM

cameroncrazy1984: wozzeck: The invasion force for Iraq was 200,000 soldiers comprised of 148,000 american forces, 48,000 british, and the rest from other nations.

You think you're smart--you tell me what equipment and means the Israelis have for transporting 200,000 troops, at a minimum, for an attack 1000 miles away.

Until you do, you can commence shutting the fark up.

Thinking before typing can be helpful

And that, my friend, is why Israel isn't planning on invading Iran without the help of its allies. And if its principal ally (the US) decides not to go in with them, they probably won't do it. Therefore, any President who decides that invading Iran is a good idea is an idiot.


I may be wrong here, but I think you two are arguing the same point.
 
2012-07-29 05:53:59 PM

beta_plus: You know what Iran could do to keep Israel from attacking them?

Stop promising to nuke Israel as soon as they get an atomic bomb.


They've been 'about to get a nuke' for decades now. And even if they DID get a nuke, they wouldn't be stupid enough to attack Israel, no matter what they might say.

The real leaders in Iran are interested in power. And they know that, should they nuke Israel, they would be OUT of power (by way of vaporization).

They're using the same tactics Republicans use, funnily enough. Keep the populace scared, and their attention is drawn away from how badly they're being screwed. And, just like with the Republicans, it's starting to lose its effectiveness.

/Extreme right-wing theocrats are the same the world over.
 
2012-07-29 05:55:28 PM

Mikey1969: Wow, and this is the headline that gets greenlit? They tell you to be creative, but mine was better.


Yes, but yours was about Salt Lake City.
 
2012-07-29 06:02:04 PM
I'm confused.

This
towleroad.typepad.com
is ok while Rmoney supporting war with Iran is ok too?

I think the inbred hick backer sat around after for a few days after the Aurora shooting saying to himself "I want a billboard showing Obama next to the Aurora, CO shooter, but I don't know how to make it make any sense. I know! I'll make something up!"
 
2012-07-29 06:03:43 PM
www.boomantribune.com
"This is fun, Mitt! Hey, you know what else would be fun? If you ran for President. You should do that! Do it for me, my little Willy-poo."
 
2012-07-29 06:03:47 PM

Don't Troll Me Bro!: Flying Lasagna Monster: [www.boomantribune.com image 628x419]

One picture says alot about Romney.

That's the wild and crazy guy Ann keeps telling us about? The one that wants to come out? At least Ann looks like she's capable of having some fun. Such a miserable man.


A real American leader always sits in the biatch seat.
 
2012-07-29 06:04:10 PM

propasaurus: Mikey1969: Wow, and this is the headline that gets greenlit? They tell you to be creative, but mine was better.

Yes, but yours was about Salt Lake City.


wut?
 
2012-07-29 06:05:33 PM

rynthetyn: simplicimus: Well, the price of oil will shoot up soon, just like it did when Republicans last started sabre rattling against Iran. Also a good setup for WWIII, the US and Israel against Iran, China and Russia.

Do the Mormons have the same sort of apocalyptic end times theology as the American fundamentalist Christians? Because if so we should start building fallout shelters now in case he gets elected.


Not sure about bunkers, but they do stockpile weapons, armor and food.
 
2012-07-29 06:06:02 PM

Mikey1969: propasaurus: Mikey1969: Wow, and this is the headline that gets greenlit? They tell you to be creative, but mine was better.

Yes, but yours was about Salt Lake City.

wut?


just snarkin' on your heated defense of SLC the other day.
 
2012-07-29 06:06:53 PM

beta_plus: You know what Iran could do to keep Israel from attacking them?

Stop promising to nuke Israel as soon as they get an atomic bomb.


When did that happen?
 
2012-07-29 06:07:15 PM

DeltaPunch: You should do that! Do it for me, my little Willy-poo.


"If you ever want to be a man, and not be a disgrace to your father, you will do it. Your father is disappointed with you. Make him proud."

/That's exactly what this is all about.
//Just like W.
 
2012-07-29 06:09:09 PM
Seriously - fark Israel. What exactly does the US get out of this relationship, anyway? We send them money, we send them weapons, we cover their ass as they sabre rattle and in return we get...what?
 
2012-07-29 06:10:39 PM
I also noticed that during the speech he used a *GASP* teleprompter? What are the Republicans going to say about that? Didn't he have a pen with him to write notes on his hand?
 
2012-07-29 06:19:58 PM

jcooli09: beta_plus: You know what Iran could do to keep Israel from attacking them?

Stop promising to nuke Israel as soon as they get an atomic bomb.

When did that happen?


Somewhere between all the Republicans vowing to wage war on Iran.
 
2012-07-29 06:19:58 PM

balloot: Seriously - fark Israel. What exactly does the US get out of this relationship, anyway? We send them money, we send them weapons, we cover their ass as they sabre rattle and in return we get...what?


Well, them pissing off everyone in the region is a good way to keep the American populace scared of Muslims.
 
2012-07-29 06:22:47 PM
United States has "a solemn duty and a moral imperative" to help in that effort.


No, no it doesn't. If Israel wants to mess with Iran it can do it on its own.
 
2012-07-29 06:23:35 PM
And now I'm even further convinced to vote for Obama in November.

Thanks Mitt for making the choice easier.
 
2012-07-29 06:23:53 PM

Karac: Gyrfalcon: DeltaPunch: "In an interview with the right-wing Israeli daily newspaper Israel Hayom, Mitt Romney said that the Arab Spring might never have happened had Bush's "freedom agenda" not been prematurely halted by President Barack Obama."

The neocon "masterminds" of the Iraq War are all in Romney's campaign now, and they're clearly starting to control his message now.

So wait...it would have been a GOOD thing if the Arab Spring had never happened?!?

From what I gathered from the link, his point is that Obama propped up the Mubarak regime and that if he hadn't been president, Hosni would have peacefully and orderly resigned from power - making the Arab Spring unneccesary.


Wonder how my tea party retard coworkers who've been saying Obama should have supported our ally Mubarak against the insurrection will do?

I'm guessing deny everything they used to say and spit out the new point.
 
2012-07-29 06:29:19 PM

Hollie Maea: DeltaPunch: You should do that! Do it for me, my little Willy-poo.

"If you ever want to be a man, and not be a disgrace to your father, you will do it. Your father is disappointed with you. Make him proud."

/That's exactly what this is all about.
//Just like W.


And Obama's like "Where can I find the most sheep in the world to herd....I've got it! America!"
 
2012-07-29 06:33:34 PM
Wow, NBC Nightly News is leading with this story. Color me shocked.
 
2012-07-29 06:34:41 PM
Isarael: Well, these bombs are pretty expensive, and we wouldn't want them to get scratched. Why don't you go to Iran and catch them when we drop them?
 
2012-07-29 06:34:58 PM
United States has "a solemn duty and a moral imperative" to help in that effort.


O RLY?
 
2012-07-29 06:36:30 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Wow, NBC Nightly News is leading with this story. Color me shocked.


CBS did too.

NBC really hightlighted the close connection Bibi and Romney have though.
 
2012-07-29 06:40:05 PM

Mikey1969: Supporting the policies of the State of Israel means that you give up the moral high road in favor of the popular high road. There is a difference. By supporting the popular high road, you get to condemn people for doing something and then praise others for doing the exact same thing in retaliation without being called a hypocrite. All of the cool kids are doing it nowadays.


Wow, kinda like having yer cake and eating it too!

I'm totes jelly of the cool kids who can twist their mind into pretzels like that.

/My Mom sez I'm cool.
 
2012-07-29 06:41:11 PM
A vote for Romney is a vote for another worthless war that not a single American life should be risked to wage.
 
2012-07-29 06:45:39 PM

Mrtraveler01: cameroncrazy1984: Wow, NBC Nightly News is leading with this story. Color me shocked.

CBS did too.

NBC really hightlighted the close connection Bibi and Romney have though.


I'm glad they also mentioned how Romney recognized Jerusalem as the capital and promised to move the embassy there if elected.

Is there a point where the State Department just flat out tells Mitt to get his ass back home and to stop talking to foreign leaders before he starts a war?
 
2012-07-29 06:46:07 PM

cameroncrazy1984: Wow, NBC Nightly News is leading with this story. Color me shocked.


"Candidate for US Presidency Pledges Support to Israel in Starting WWIII" should be buried after the classifieds?
 
2012-07-29 06:47:33 PM

Mrtraveler01: Karac: Gyrfalcon: DeltaPunch: "In an interview with the right-wing Israeli daily newspaper Israel Hayom, Mitt Romney said that the Arab Spring might never have happened had Bush's "freedom agenda" not been prematurely halted by President Barack Obama."

The neocon "masterminds" of the Iraq War are all in Romney's campaign now, and they're clearly starting to control his message now.

So wait...it would have been a GOOD thing if the Arab Spring had never happened?!?

From what I gathered from the link, his point is that Obama propped up the Mubarak regime and that if he hadn't been president, Hosni would have peacefully and orderly resigned from power - making the Arab Spring unneccesary.

These are the same people who kept bragging about "spreading democracy throughout the Middle East" when we were bombing Iraq to kingdom come. And then later out were outraged that people democratically voted for people the neocons didn't like.

If there isn't a more soulless group of hypocrites than neocons, then I haven't met them yet.


I'm just appalled that anyone would think the Arab Spring wasn't a great thing. Then I remember that these same brain-dead hypocrites were upset back in the Olden Days when (among other things): the Taliban got voted into office, Hamas was elected by their own people to run their country, and no one could figure out why the Iranian students were so pissed at America after all we'd done to, er, for them.
 
2012-07-29 06:59:00 PM

propasaurus: Mikey1969: propasaurus: Mikey1969: Wow, and this is the headline that gets greenlit? They tell you to be creative, but mine was better.

Yes, but yours was about Salt Lake City.

wut?

just snarkin' on your heated defense of SLC the other day.


It was really a defense of the concept of "middle of nowhere" and the implication that the place was a tiny fly speck... Everyone else got all psycho about it, the SLC hate was rollin' hard, which I don't get. It['s not our fault that Romney is around. Hell, it's not even our fault the Mormons are here...
 
2012-07-29 07:05:01 PM

balloot: Seriously - fark Israel. What exactly does the US get out of this relationship, anyway? We send them money, we send them weapons, we cover their ass as they sabre rattle and in return we get...what?


Well, we get one of our naval vessels (USS Liberty) bombed killing 34 sailors. And we get spied on, witj Johnathan Jay Pollard giving them military secrets. fark that place.
 
2012-07-29 07:05:32 PM

balloot: Seriously - fark Israel. What exactly does the US get out of this relationship, anyway? We send them money, we send them weapons, we cover their ass as they sabre rattle and in return we get...what?


We get to offset guilt from ignoring Hitler's actions for so long. Hell, in some cases, actively supporting them. The whole world is really just offsetting guilt, and as a result has turned any criticism of Israel as a political body into Antisemitism.
 
2012-07-29 07:06:33 PM

quatchi: Mikey1969: Supporting the policies of the State of Israel means that you give up the moral high road in favor of the popular high road. There is a difference. By supporting the popular high road, you get to condemn people for doing something and then praise others for doing the exact same thing in retaliation without being called a hypocrite. All of the cool kids are doing it nowadays.

Wow, kinda like having yer cake and eating it too!

I'm totes jelly of the cool kids who can twist their mind into pretzels like that.

/My Mom sez I'm cool.


Yeah, but you have to be the kind of 'cool' that removes your moral and intellectual filters for this kind of thinking to work. Does your Mom think that you are THAT cool? ;-)
 
2012-07-29 07:07:03 PM

DeltaPunch: "In an interview with the right-wing Israeli daily newspaper Israel Hayom, Mitt Romney said that the Arab Spring might never have happened had Bush's "freedom agenda" not been prematurely halted by President Barack Obama."

The neocon "masterminds" of the Iraq War are all in Romney's campaign now, and they're clearly starting to control his message now.


This ^ 1000 times. It frightens me that so many people would vote for him because of these things.
 
2012-07-29 07:16:49 PM

Mikey1969: The whole world is really just offsetting guilt, and as a result has turned any criticism of Israel as a political body into Antisemitism.


Unless the criticism of Israel is in Israel.

You should see how critical they can get of Bibi there. If we were to say anything like that here in the US, we'd be labeled Antisemites.
 
2012-07-29 07:17:08 PM

DeltaPunch: [www.boomantribune.com image 628x419]
"This is fun, Mitt! Hey, you know what else would be fun? If you ran for President. You should do that! Do it for me, my little Willy-poo."


They may be the first picture of someone riding on one of those where they looked like they weren't enjoying themselves.
 
2012-07-29 07:26:21 PM

clambam: Wow, Mitt Romney must really want the Jewish vote. I've never understood this because we're, what, 3% of the population? He's already got the billionaires in his corner so it's not like he's counting on Jewish money in excess of what he's already getting from the likes of Adelson. Surely there are more numerous minorities for him to pander to. Yeah, I know the biblethumpers want the Third Temple built so that baby Jesus can come home, but that particular brand of wingnut is already in the Romney camp. Plus, the jokes's on them: every Jew on earth is ritually impure because of the lapse of one of the Levitical laws (I forget which one), so we can't restore the Temple for you in any case. Ha ha!

Will Romney really recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel? He must love high gas prices then because the reaction from the Arab oil-producing states is going to be extremely unpleasant. Maybe he really is an end-timer bring-it-on crazy person conservative but I don't believe it becaue that's not the Mormon MO. More likely he's just a lying sack of shiat who says whatever he thinks people want to hear to whomever he's standing in front of at the time.


4%, 600k in Florida, and a pledged 100 million from a single casino mogul who admits Israel comes first (among other political organizations as well).

you might think simply not being racist and get some of the black vote would be more worthwhile.
 
2012-07-29 07:28:13 PM

Mrtraveler01: cameroncrazy1984: Wow, NBC Nightly News is leading with this story. Color me shocked.

CBS did too.

NBC really hightlighted the close connection Bibi and Romney have though.


firstlightforum.files.wordpress.com

If it came down to the USA or Israel, which way you think they are going to go? Hint, it already has.
 
2012-07-29 07:31:56 PM
I'm sure all those tax breaks Mittens plans to give to the wealthy would help pay for this new military adventure, amirite?
 
2012-07-29 07:34:34 PM
Romney is on a seven-day overseas trip in which he hopes to burnish banish his foreign policy credentials.

FTFThem
 
2012-07-29 07:47:33 PM

Captain_Ballbeard: If it came down to the USA or Israel, which way you think they are going to go? Hint, it already has.


It's a shame that paranoia is one of the least treated personality disorders.
 
2012-07-29 07:52:01 PM

wozzeck: cameroncrazy1984: wozzeck: and that Israel does not have any way of transporting significantly large ground forces 1000 miles.

...

You think a modern army and air force has no way of transporting ground forces 1000 miles? Seriously?

You're talking about forces required to control--even for a limited period of time--a nation three times the size and twice the population of Iraq.

The invasion force for Iraq was 200,000 soldiers comprised of 148,000 american forces, 48,000 british, and the rest from other nations.

You think you're smart--you tell me what equipment and means the Israelis have for transporting 200,000 troops, at a minimum, for an attack 1000 miles away.

Until you do, you can commence shutting the fark up.

Thinking before typing can be helpful.


And now we know why AMERICA is in the dumpster. No faith. Not one once of faith. Tonight, an eagle weeps for you.
 
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