cameroncrazy1984: And he's already walked that back. He's setting records for flip-flopping.

Got a link for that?

If only the opposition to Bibi wasn't so fractured and inept, then maybe we wouldn't have to worry about this unnecessary pissing match.

Seems like Bibi waves this around anytime anyone gets upset at him about the rapidly growing cost of living just so he can distract Israeli's from these problems.

It's like that movie Canadian Bacon only in real life.

Wasn't there a newstory recently about how they can't even get chicken feed in Iran right now and so have a shortage of chicken? That the people are getting fed up with the regime (or not fed chicken).

So it makes perfect sense to give them a very public cause to unite against an Israeli & US alliance that vocally talks about bombing them --- in bizaro world it does.

skullkrusher: couldn't he just have left it as "If you want to bomb Iran, we won't do anything at all"?

No of course not. Only an Anti-Semite would suggest such a thing.

Mrtraveler01: skullkrusher: couldn't he just have left it as "If you want to bomb Iran, we won't do anything at all"?

No of course not. Only an Anti-Semite would suggest such a thing.

maybe these Israeli votes will cancel out the British votes against him?

This is good for Obama.

The debates are coming.

Romney's 20% tax cut for everyone + another war = huge debt

Obama should beat Mitt over the head with this. Plus there is no way America is ready for another war.

Elect Romney = war and a sh*tty economy.

Zoophagous: Elect Romney = war and a sh*tty economy.

This should be applied directly to the forehead.
Applied directly to the forehead.
Applied directly to the forehead.

/Forehead.
//Applied to it.
///I'm saying Obama should repeat that a lot
////Sans slashies
\

Well good... Romney should enlist in the Israeli military and go fight for them. One less asshat trying to get my friends killed in a useless war.

I am curious though... do Israelis hate Mormons as much as they do other religions?

PonceAlyosha: cameroncrazy1984: And he's already walked that back. He's setting records for flip-flopping.

Got a link for that?

Here you go. This is in the TF queue right now

Let's be very clear about what we're talking about here.

Israel has not conducted an air strike against Iran for a very simple reason--they've concluded that the Iranian have sufficiently dispersed, hidden and hardened their nuclear facilities so that an air strike would not be an effective means of ending Iran's nuclear program.

Everyone knows that the only thing an air strike accomplished is maybe, if we're lucky, maybe a slight delay.

Israel knows that the only way to end Iran's nuclear program is a full out attack and then rooting out and destroying Iran's nuclear facilities using ground forces.

Israel is also fully aware that Iran is 1000 miles away from Israel, and that Israel does not have any way of transporting significantly large ground forces 1000 miles.

Israel is fully aware that the only country with sufficient forces and means of transporting those forces is the United States. Israel's aim for the past decade or more has been to secure an attack by United States against Iran using the full weight of US army and marines forces.

Israel would prefer to have the United States simply declare an action against Iran without Israel acting militarily at all. They've had no luck with that, so instead are going with a regional conflict plan.

The only interest Israel has in an air strike is based on the belief that an air strike would cause a major regional conflict that would force United States involvement. The set up is this--Israel strikes Iran, Iran retaliates against Persian Gulf shipping, at which point the United States is forced to commit ground forces and stage a full attack.

That's why oil prices shoot up every time Israel tries pushing the US' war button--everyone involved in the oil markets knows that any Israeli attack would result in a shutdown of Persian Gulf oil shipments for an indeterminate amount of time, and could result in significantly limiting oil shipments from the Gulf area for years depending on the amount of destruction caused by a Gulf war.

A short-term hike in oil prices, of course, is no problem to Romney at all. He'd love a spike in gas prices that could be blamed on Obama.

rynthetyn: Do the Mormons have the same sort of apocalyptic end times theology as the American fundamentalist Christians? Because if so we should start building fallout shelters now in case he gets elected

Are you kidding?

You know what you get when you cross a Mormon with a Mexican?

/An attic full of stolen food
//one ticket, please

robsul82: NeoCortex42: cameroncrazy1984: And he's already walked that back. He's setting records for flip-flopping.

His interview on Face the Nation this morning was embarrassing. When asked to clarify his statements, all he would say was "I'll just repeat what I said earlier..." and "I'm not going to comment on that while I'm on foreign soil." I wouldn't be surprised if he went overseas just so he could use the "foreign soil" excuse to evade any questions he doesn't like.

Clown question bro
Basketball reasons
That's not a hair question
Foreign soil

That's a second amendment issue and I'm not going to get into it.

GAT_00: NFA: propasaurus: Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday welcomed Romney as "a representative of the United States".

No, no he's not.


But wishful thinking counts in international relations right? Right?

Well, all of Israeli policy is wishful thinking, so it fits in well.

Well put

Karac: propasaurus: Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday welcomed Romney as "a representative of the United States".

No, no he's not.

Isn't that a felony? For a private citizen to be negotiate with a foreign government?

"Unidicted Felon Mitt Romney"

FTA: He also declared Jerusalem the capital of Israel.

Thanks for taking care of that Mitt!

wozzeck: and that Israel does not have any way of transporting significantly large ground forces 1000 miles.

...

You think a modern army and air force has no way of transporting ground forces 1000 miles? Seriously?

That's one way to try and get half of the American press behind you, I think Jennifer Rubin and Wolf Blitzer just had a simultaneous orgasm - then it's back to work, creating a message that looks like it was written by an American but serves their real country.

traitors

Karac: Gyrfalcon: DeltaPunch: "In an interview with the right-wing Israeli daily newspaper Israel Hayom, Mitt Romney said that the Arab Spring might never have happened had Bush's "freedom agenda" not been prematurely halted by President Barack Obama."

The neocon "masterminds" of the Iraq War are all in Romney's campaign now, and they're clearly starting to control his message now.

So wait...it would have been a GOOD thing if the Arab Spring had never happened?!?

From what I gathered from the link, his point is that Obama propped up the Mubarak regime and that if he hadn't been president, Hosni would have peacefully and orderly resigned from power - making the Arab Spring unneccesary.

These are the same people who kept bragging about "spreading democracy throughout the Middle East" when we were bombing Iraq to kingdom come. And then later out were outraged that people democratically voted for people the neocons didn't like.

If there isn't a more soulless group of hypocrites than neocons, then I haven't met them yet.

NeoCortex42: FlashHarry: propasaurus: Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday welcomed Romney as "a representative of the United States".

No, no he's not.

he's not even his party's nominee for president. he's a private farking citizen.

This is what's bothering me the most about his international trip. He's getting full head-of-state treatment from Britain and Israel and he's not even officially a nominee at this point. It would be one thing if he was a sitting senator, but he in no way represents any American except himself at the moment. He should not be discussing policy with foreign leaders right now.

Another private citizen representing no American except himself.

Mrtraveler01: If only the opposition to HaBibi wasn't so fractured and inept, then maybe we wouldn't have to worry about this unnecessary pissing match.

Seems like HaBibi waves this around anytime anyone gets upset at him about the rapidly growing cost of living just so he can distract Israeli's from these problems.

It's like that movie Canadian Bacon only in real life.

I enjoy referring to him with an Arabic pet-name that translates to "Little Darling"

Mitt and Bibi are old friends, and Mitt has promised to consult Bibi on all matters affecting Israel.

Mart Laar's beard shaver: Another private citizen representing no American except himself.

Actually, he was a sitting senator.

NeoCortex42: Mitt's answer to the question of "Do you think Iran is close to nuclear weapons?" during his Face the Nation interview: "Well, they're five yeras closer than they were five years ago when I talked about it." When pushed to say how close he thinks Iran really is right now, he only said "They're five years closer than they were five years ago."

Mitt Romney, who think answering a question with a tautology is a sufficient response.

Also, is it just me, or has Iran been less than a year away from nuclear weapons for like twenty years now?

And to think this guy could be our next president!

I think he could be even more inept at foreign policy than even Bush!

cameroncrazy1984: wozzeck: and that Israel does not have any way of transporting significantly large ground forces 1000 miles.

...

You think a modern army and air force has no way of transporting ground forces 1000 miles? Seriously?



Couple of obstacles between them and Iran

Mart Laar's beard shaver: NeoCortex42: FlashHarry: propasaurus: Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday welcomed Romney as "a representative of the United States".

No, no he's not.

he's not even his party's nominee for president. he's a private farking citizen.

This is what's bothering me the most about his international trip. He's getting full head-of-state treatment from Britain and Israel and he's not even officially a nominee at this point. It would be one thing if he was a sitting senator, but he in no way represents any American except himself at the moment. He should not be discussing policy with foreign leaders right now.

Another private citizen representing no American except himself.

He wasn't a private citizen, he was a US Senator on a diplomatic mission to Alderaan.

simplicimus: Well, the price of oil will shoot up soon, just like it did when Republicans last started sabre rattling against Iran. Also a good setup for WWIII, the US and Israel against Iran, China and Russia.

And they can biatch about gas prices and blame Obama. There is NO downside.

Coco LaFemme: Yes, Mitt....the one thing Americans want more of is dead American troops. We just love ourselves some dead American troops. Can't get enough of those red, white, and blue corpses. Keep pushing for more war, Mitt. It's not like we don't have other, more important things to worry about within our own borders.

Apparently the troops love dead American troops as well considering how much they support neocons.

wozzeck: Israel's aim for the past decade or more has been to secure an attack by United States against Iran using the full weight of US army and marines forces.

This f***tard should shut up, this is adult stuff he's messing with.