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(Salon)   The latest e-mail annoyance? Overzealous punctuation, often exclamation points, which make it seem like people "type so breathlessly, like they're skydiving to prom"   (salon.com) divider line 115
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2012-07-29 02:34:17 PM

whatshisname: I have an old HIGH school FRIEND!!!!..............Who's every POST on FACEBOOK...........looks like THIS!.....yessssssssssssssssss


www.startrek.com
Understands the feeling.

/Why settle for a small ham when you have the biggest?
 
2012-07-29 02:35:53 PM

maachubo: Listens, grammar am for people what can't think for MYSELF! Understanded me?


I see you watch Metalocalypse too. ;)
 
2012-07-29 02:36:39 PM

Dee Snarl: Hawnkee: Second only to....................people who use too many...........................periods in their...........(often times unnecessary).............ellipses........................

Too many times I've had to...............................disable Accessibility Options because of these..........................mother.......................farking... ........................geniuses.................................

/............................
//.................................................
///.......................slashies........................

Ugh, yeah, I abuse ellipses, but I ALWAYS USE THEM PROPERLY!! I hate people that use too many periods. Or two. Or freakin' commas. My FB friends must be particularly dumb....


Funny thing is, in live chat I tend to be way too fond of using periods (ellipses) as commas to indicate pauses in speech or thought. Bad habit I know, but since no one I know has ever failed to read it as such, or hassle me about it, the habit has stuck.

I do get comma crazy sometimes, though I'd argue I use them correctly.
 
2012-07-29 02:39:40 PM

Doctor Funkenstein: When did "the prom" become just "prom"?


It's like being in hospital.
 
2012-07-29 02:40:04 PM

foxyshadis: maachubo: Listens, grammar am for people what can't think for MYSELF! Understanded me?

I see you watch Metalocalypse too. ;)


I do. Or at least I did. Haven't watched in a long time though. Actually, that line is from Get Fuzzy the newspaper comic, said by Bucky Katt after he is chastised for his poor speech.
 
2012-07-29 02:41:35 PM
Ah, the abuse of the exclamation point. Young ladies have been doing that since the days of Jane Austen.

My concern is that this whinging school marm has just started a new meme: sky-diving to prom. How many children do school teachers have to kill in the name of good grammar and punctuation? How many? That's not a rhetorical question. I want to know. Oh, and to be fair, some statistics on how many school children kill their teachers by getting all stabby when their punctuation, spelling and grammar are corrected.
 
2012-07-29 02:44:46 PM
The author forgets prosody? While overused punctuations are annoying a well placed ! or ?? denotes tone where it might be hard to fathom in "proper" english text.
 
2012-07-29 02:45:14 PM

Rude Turnip: Doctor Funkenstein: When did "the prom" become just "prom"?

It's like being in hospital.


Isn't that more of a quaint British contraction?

I think it's cute when they say it that way.
 
2012-07-29 02:47:49 PM

Nina Haagen Dazs: AMonkey'sUncle: It's email. Write like ee cummings if you want. You're not being graded on grammar or punctuation!?

I tend to judge people based on their spelling, grammar and punctuation. I doubt that I'm the only one who does this.


There's nothing wrong with that, in formal communication. For my purposes email is not formal so I'm less apt to judge the sender. And they might be sending it from a phone and using TXT abbreviations, which I'm all for because we did a version of that on the teletypes when I was in the CG.

Tutti i gusti sono giusti.
 
2012-07-29 02:51:44 PM

mrlewish: The author forgets prosody? While overused punctuations are annoying a well placed ! or ?? denotes tone where it might be hard to fathom in "proper" english text.


Indeed. Also, thanks for introducing me to that word.
 
2012-07-29 02:53:52 PM
When everything is emphasized and important, nothing is important.
 
2012-07-29 02:55:09 PM

RogermcAllen: skinink: One of my Facebook contacts likes to write "lol" after every post. Sometimes "lolol" in case he doesn't think you understand how funny something is.

This reminds me of a funny facebook picture where some guy convinced his grandma that lol was short for "lots of love". It was all fun and games until someone died and grandma posted something like, "I'm sorry to hear your father died, LOL!"


Why The Face?
 
GBB [TotalFark]
2012-07-29 02:56:03 PM
TFA: But I've also come to hate it. I hate that I'm trapped by it

You twit. You are not trapped by it. It's freaking email. Write however you want to write and if people take it the wrong way, fark 'em! Don't let their petty ignorance influence you.

Sorry, couldn't access their comment section at work. Had to vent somewhere.
 
2012-07-29 03:04:30 PM

AMonkey'sUncle: Nina Haagen Dazs: AMonkey'sUncle: It's email. Write like ee cummings if you want. You're not being graded on grammar or punctuation!?

I tend to judge people based on their spelling, grammar and punctuation. I doubt that I'm the only one who does this.

There's nothing wrong with that, in formal communication. For my purposes email is not formal so I'm less apt to judge the sender. And they might be sending it from a phone and using TXT abbreviations, which I'm all for because we did a version of that on the teletypes when I was in the CG.

Tutti i gusti sono giusti.


I can buy that when it's not in a professional setting like work, but at work I tend to believe there is a certain degree of professionalism to be displayed in work communications.

Besides, it lets me feel smug when my bosses don't do so. Have to get my laughs somehow. Keeps me from getting stabby when they say something aggravating.
 
2012-07-29 03:07:47 PM
Hm, funny how nobody but me thought instantly of a certain Fark troll who uses so many elipses there's probably none left for the rest of us anymore.

/best part....
 
2012-07-29 03:13:42 PM
I'm going to have to agree with the commenter that got reprimanded for being 'too brusque,' 'unfriendly,' and even 'hostile.'"

My emails to coworkers and clients are direct and to the point. I don't need to write 3 paragraphs of prose to ask a person if they approve of the latest draft. Everyone thought I was too "mean" so now I have to put exclamation points on everything. It's the only way people can understand I'm not mad at them! :)

I blame marketing people.
 
2012-07-29 03:18:44 PM
I used to work at an arts press, so I got to see plenty of weird stuff.One book had probably five exclamation marks after every sentence. Horrible.

I do like the interrobang though. How else do you express the baffled outburst: "What?!"
 
2012-07-29 03:20:59 PM

Gyrfalcon: Hm, funny how nobody but me thought instantly of a certain Fark troll who uses so many elipses there's probably none left for the rest of us anymore.

/best part....


Hey, I see five periods on you elispe instead of three. You might want to get that checked out :). Hopefully, you're taking them from the troll.
 
2012-07-29 03:22:27 PM
"your" FTFM
 
2012-07-29 03:23:55 PM

Nina Haagen Dazs: AMonkey'sUncle: It's email. Write like ee cummings if you want. You're not being graded on grammar or punctuation!?

I tend to judge people based on their spelling, grammar and punctuation. I doubt that I'm the only one who does this.


You would be correct.
 
2012-07-29 03:24:39 PM

lilplatinum: Agent Smiths Laugh:
Sure , I make grammar grammatical errors , too as well. Everyone does. At least I try to make the effort to proof-read and edit my own work before making myself appear like a juvenile.


FTFY
 
2012-07-29 03:26:13 PM
Capital letters and exclamation points don't mean shouting.
Nobody has thought so since 1994.
 
2012-07-29 03:27:53 PM
My BIL writes in all caps... in every email. Always.

When I brought it up to him, he explained to me: "At my billing rate, I can save 5 figures a year by not reaching for the shift button."

CSB? I dunno... but he is a giant douche.

/Still love him though, he got my sister away from us.
 
2012-07-29 03:28:19 PM

meh...: Gyrfalcon: Hm, funny how nobody but me thought instantly of a certain Fark troll who uses so many elipses there's probably none left for the rest of us anymore.

/best part....

Hey, I see five periods on you elispe instead of three. You might want to get that checked out :). Hopefully, you're taking them from the troll.


I like to think of it as prophylactic ellipsing.
 
2012-07-29 03:36:11 PM
I try to type like I talk. It tends to piss off my Candian and British coworkers. Well, mostly my British coworkers.
 
2012-07-29 03:36:52 PM

Gyrfalcon: meh...: Gyrfalcon: Hm, funny how nobody but me thought instantly of a certain Fark troll who uses so many elipses there's probably none left for the rest of us anymore.

/best part....

Hey, I see five periods on you elispe instead of three. You might want to get that checked out :). Hopefully, you're taking them from the troll.

I like to think of it as prophylactic ellipsing.


You are a saint. Keep up your good work.
 
2012-07-29 03:39:40 PM
I limit myself to one exclamation mark per paragraph, and then only if they are needed. I only use them for the punch line, to express anger, shock or surprise, or after demands or pleas for help.

Ellipses, on the other hand...!
 
2012-07-29 03:43:32 PM

Agent Smiths Laugh: Nina Haagen Dazs: AMonkey'sUncle: It's email. Write like ee cummings if you want. You're not being graded on grammar or punctuation!?

I tend to judge people based on their spelling, grammar and punctuation. I doubt that I'm the only one who does this.

Oh you're not. I've always found sardonic humor in having a boss whose grammar is effectively several grades below my own. I'll get an email such as:

"see u at the meeting. their are some things im exited to discus"

Seeing that my inner grammar Nazi kicks in, and I just grin and think to myself, "And yet somehow, that person is my boss."

Sure I make grammar errors too. Everyone does. At least I try to make the effort to proof-read and edit my own work before making myself appear like a juvenile.


That irks me as well. How barely-literate morons end up on top is beyond me.
 
2012-07-29 03:45:03 PM

foxyshadis: skinink: One of my Facebook contacts likes to write "lol" after every post. Sometimes "lolol" in case he doesn't think you understand how funny something is.

I picked up "loooooooool" from some old friends of mine, the longer the funnier. If it's long enough, I might have actually chuckled!

I'm just glad smartphones have mostly eliminated txtspk in daily writing.


You would think so, wouldn't you?
 
2012-07-29 03:45:46 PM

AMonkey'sUncle: It's email. Write like ee cummings if you want. You're not being graded on grammar or punctuation!?


Meh, B-. Better use of references would help.
 
2012-07-29 03:49:06 PM
This is the world we live and work in, where one must make a conscious decision when to reply to a boss so as to appear responsive but not to appear idle? That an excess of punctuation can cause a rift deeper than the Mariana trench?

\the forest for the trees
\\interrobang
 
2012-07-29 03:50:43 PM

pxlboy: Agent Smiths Laugh: Nina Haagen Dazs: AMonkey'sUncle: It's email. Write like ee cummings if you want. You're not being graded on grammar or punctuation!?

I tend to judge people based on their spelling, grammar and punctuation. I doubt that I'm the only one who does this.

Oh you're not. I've always found sardonic humor in having a boss whose grammar is effectively several grades below my own. I'll get an email such as:

"see u at the meeting. their are some things im exited to discus"

Seeing that my inner grammar Nazi kicks in, and I just grin and think to myself, "And yet somehow, that person is my boss."

Sure I make grammar errors too. Everyone does. At least I try to make the effort to proof-read and edit my own work before making myself appear like a juvenile.

That irks me as well. How barely-literate morons end up on top is beyond me.


They don't have time for grammar, they're too busy backstabbing, brown-nosing, and exploiting their way to management.
 
2012-07-29 03:55:38 PM

Agent Smiths Laugh: pxlboy: Agent Smiths Laugh: Nina Haagen Dazs: AMonkey'sUncle: It's email. Write like ee cummings if you want. You're not being graded on grammar or punctuation!?

I tend to judge people based on their spelling, grammar and punctuation. I doubt that I'm the only one who does this.

Oh you're not. I've always found sardonic humor in having a boss whose grammar is effectively several grades below my own. I'll get an email such as:

"see u at the meeting. their are some things im exited to discus"

Seeing that my inner grammar Nazi kicks in, and I just grin and think to myself, "And yet somehow, that person is my boss."

Sure I make grammar errors too. Everyone does. At least I try to make the effort to proof-read and edit my own work before making myself appear like a juvenile.

That irks me as well. How barely-literate morons end up on top is beyond me.

They don't have time for grammar, they're too busy backstabbing, brown-nosing, and exploiting their way to management.


Sadly, yes. Sociopaths succeed.
 
2012-07-29 04:00:01 PM

Agent Smiths Laugh: AMonkey'sUncle: Nina Haagen Dazs: AMonkey'sUncle: It's email. Write like ee cummings if you want. You're not being graded on grammar or punctuation!?

I tend to judge people based on their spelling, grammar and punctuation. I doubt that I'm the only one who does this.

There's nothing wrong with that, in formal communication. For my purposes email is not formal so I'm less apt to judge the sender. And they might be sending it from a phone and using TXT abbreviations, which I'm all for because we did a version of that on the teletypes when I was in the CG.

Tutti i gusti sono giusti.

I can buy that when it's not in a professional setting like work, but at work I tend to believe there is a certain degree of professionalism to be displayed in work communications.

Besides, it lets me feel smug when my bosses don't do so. Have to get my laughs somehow. Keeps me from getting stabby when they say something aggravating.


Totally agree.
 
2012-07-29 04:05:12 PM

UsikFark: Hawnkee: Second only to....................people who use too many...........................periods in their...........(often times unnecessary).............ellipses........................

Too many times I've had to...............................disable Accessibility Options because of these..........................mother.......................farking... ........................geniuses.................................

/............................
//.................................................
///.......................slashies........................

I wonder what (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻) does to accessibility options...


Is that Jake and Finn? AWESOME!!!11!eleventyone!!1
 
2012-07-29 04:15:33 PM
PEOPLE NEED TO GET AN FSCK'n GRIP !
I am not yelling at you...I am practicing the Samuel L Jackson method of acting...BIATCH
 
2012-07-29 04:38:59 PM

Hawnkee: Second only to....................people who use too many...........................periods in their...........(often times unnecessary).............ellipses........................

Too many times I've had to...............................disable Accessibility Options because of these..........................mother.......................farking... ........................geniuses.................................

/............................
//.................................................
///.......................slashies........................


Did anyone else start mentally filling in the blanks in what they thought was a generic Fark comment template before reaching the word "ellipses"?
 
2012-07-29 04:43:21 PM
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-07-29 04:47:32 PM

SwiftFox: Hawnkee: Second only to....................people who use too many...........................periods in their...........(often times unnecessary).............ellipses........................

Too many times I've had to...............................disable Accessibility Options because of these..........................mother.......................farking... ........................geniuses.................................

/............................
//.................................................
///.......................slashies........................

Did anyone else start mentally filling in the blanks in what they thought was a generic Fark comment template before reaching the word "ellipses"?


We did whenever the guy sent out official correspondence to the various departments for whatever reason. It's the only thing that kept us from killing the guy.
 
2012-07-29 04:59:29 PM
I'm not sure if there's something behind it, but I've noticed that my Chinese colleagues tend to use a lot of exclamation points in mildly hilarious ways. A typical e-mail exchange would go like this:

Chinese guy: We turned off the machine because it was on fire.
Me: Hmm, can you turn it back on and see if it bursts into flames again?
Chinese guy: Ok, we'll try it!

/Yes, my advice tends to be that useless.
 
2012-07-29 05:02:23 PM
If my experience is anything to go by, many people consider the occasional comma or period excessive.

I'm a freak because I try to use proper punctuation in all written communication. Even my texts have commas, periods, and fully spelled words.
 
2012-07-29 05:07:01 PM
Reads like some people talk, these days. (Not to me, for any longer than I can help it.) The worst vocal affectation of the past 20 years is still that 'Valley Girl' flattening of speech like a duck.

/A-FLACK

//shudder - like fingernails screetching on a chalkboard
 
2012-07-29 05:07:03 PM

Jamdug!: Doctor Funkenstein: When did "the prom" become just "prom"?

I read it as 'porn'.


Thank GOD, I'm not the only one. I was like "Skydiving to porn" seems legitimately exciting..
 
2012-07-29 05:07:08 PM

jtown: If my experience is anything to go by, many people consider the occasional comma or period excessive.

I'm a freak because I try to use proper punctuation in all written communication. Even my texts have commas, periods, and fully spelled words.


www.movingimagesource.us
 
2012-07-29 05:27:56 PM

jtown: If my experience is anything to go by, many people consider the occasional comma or period excessive.

I'm a freak because I try to use proper punctuation in all written communication. Even my texts have commas, periods, and fully spelled words.


Same here. I've tried to shorten my texts but I just can't do it.
 
2012-07-29 05:34:16 PM
:-P
 
2012-07-29 05:41:39 PM
iIn Spanish, there are two exclamation points in each sentence!
 
2012-07-29 05:45:36 PM

Nina Haagen Dazs: jtown: If my experience is anything to go by, many people consider the occasional comma or period excessive.

I'm a freak because I try to use proper punctuation in all written communication. Even my texts have commas, periods, and fully spelled words.

Same here. I've tried to shorten my texts but I just can't do it.


Same here. My college daughters do not use the short version in texts. At least to me. They are always grammatically correct. I just can't bring myself down to the level of "when u get a chance call me." I'm glad to see they don't either.
 
2012-07-29 06:15:09 PM
The Semi-Official Non-Binding AFU Smiley Poll

--
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
 
2012-07-29 06:25:28 PM

pxlboy: Agent Smiths Laugh: Nina Haagen Dazs: AMonkey'sUncle: It's email. Write like ee cummings if you want. You're not being graded on grammar or punctuation!?

I tend to judge people based on their spelling, grammar and punctuation. I doubt that I'm the only one who does this.

Oh you're not. I've always found sardonic humor in having a boss whose grammar is effectively several grades below my own. I'll get an email such as:

"see u at the meeting. their are some things im exited to discus"

Seeing that my inner grammar Nazi kicks in, and I just grin and think to myself, "And yet somehow, that person is my boss."

Sure I make grammar errors too. Everyone does. At least I try to make the effort to proof-read and edit my own work before making myself appear like a juvenile.

That irks me as well. How barely-literate morons end up on top is beyond me.


I gave up on people when I was a young girl back in college--at UCLA--and discovered the following graffiti chiseled into a stall door: "This stall is for those who like to masturbate in privet." That person is likely your boss now.
 
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