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(Deadline)   The Dark Knight Rises closes in on $500 million, taking the weekend box office by storm. Meanwhile, few people watched The Watch, which debuted at #2, or stepped up to buy a ticket for Step Up Revolution, which debuted at #4   (deadline.com) divider line 29
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2012-07-29 01:08:16 PM  
3 votes:

Shadowknight: I suppose. It's just that it lost me right from the beginning. I just figured that with Rachel dying, every incarnation of the Bat I've known and loved would have just gone even more hardcore. He would have lost himself in the cape, not just went all hermit in his house.


He was talking about ending the Batman thing in the second one after Rachel died and had to be convinced not to.

I think it would be pretty jarring if he came out as "the Goddamn Batman" in this movie, because he never really was that in the first two movies plus he is 8 years older. That's why criticism like yours and Harry Knowles' doesn't really make sense to me if you enjoyed the character in the first two movies. Hanging up the cape for 8 years and being a depressed shut in makes sense for what had already been established.

While it was far from a perfect movie, I thought it was a great way to end the trilogy.
2012-07-29 02:59:34 PM  
2 votes:
I liked it. Thought the Avengers was better, but I enjoyed it the whole time. Only complaint was Bane's rushed death scene. Took me a while to realize he was even dead.
2012-07-29 12:18:50 PM  
2 votes:
The watch was very funny. I hope more people see it. They should also try to check out Killer Joe and Ruby Sparks. Two other good movies that opened this weekend. Ahhh, 3 movies, $7. Thank god for NYC theaters!
2012-07-30 12:33:09 PM  
1 votes:

Gotfire: I found the random inclusion of Sandman as a Judge sentencing people to death or exile made zero sense. Did Bane seek out Sandman and ask if he would be interested in a judge position? Did he track him down on his LinkedIn profile? What a stupid and ridiculous scene...

/Cillian Murphy was great in the 1st one. Such a shame to retard his character the way it was in 2 & 3.


OMG a movie about BATMAN wasn't based entirely in reality! Scarecrow was insane after the first movie anyway for breathing his own toxin. The little nods to his character from movie to movie are just that, nods to the other movies. The court scenes added a bit of comic relief to an otherwise dramatic storyline.

The nit picking of this movie is absurd.
2012-07-30 11:04:05 AM  
1 votes:

cetacei: Thank God Nolan is done with Batman. Maybe they can find someone competent to fix the franchise now that he's moved on to ruining Superman.


Oh god, the stupid in this post. Do you not remember the state of the franchise before Nolan? I didn't see Begins until a few months after it had been on DVD, and then I had to convince friends, "Hey, the new Batman doesn't actually suck, you should give it a chance." Me and those same friends all saw the sequels in the first couple weeks it was out in theaters,
2012-07-30 09:48:21 AM  
1 votes:

RainbowDash: My favorite scene


SPOILER:



The truly hilarious thing is that this is almost EXACTLY how TDKR ended - right down to "Robin" thinking he died when the bomb went off. I have to believe this was an intentional joke/nod from Nolan.
2012-07-30 01:06:44 AM  
1 votes:

Shadowknight: **Possible Spoilers**

I was actually kind of disappointed in it. I loved the first two, but I feel like Nolan actually went too far into the pretentiousness of his Batman. Having him moping around and whining about being Batman was just annoying and boring.

Having Bruce give up on Batman just seems so out of character with every other version of the character I've ever liked. The movie itself just seemed badly characterized and paced.

I still liked it. But it was kind of disappointing in some way I haven't quite placed yet.


It's very important to remember this is Nolans version of Batman-not the comic. It was covering A Batman who started and ended his career. And found a way where he could walk away to a better life while still leaving Gotham protected.

Batman has actually given up several times. The most important and most influential was The Dark Knight Returns by Frank Miller. Batman quit in that one...twice.
2012-07-29 11:45:47 PM  
1 votes:

Imperious Rex!: Bane had some ridiculously cheesy lines, or at least delivered them cheesily. I could have done without the Miranda Tate character period, her last minute turn didn't really add anything and could be seen from almost the moment she was introduced (if you at least think something was up when she was helping Gordon try to identify the truck with the bomb, something is wrong with you).

I could have actually done with more Catwoman, who turned out to be the best part of the film. I have always thought Hathaway was talented, but was really anxious to see how the character would be implemented. In many ways she's the most 'comic-booky' part of this film, but also the best.


Without the Tate character, Bane would have no motive in this story. I thought the character was in some ways more interesting than the other villains, in that his ultimate turn to evil was born from his efforts to protect someone who could not protect herself. It wasn't until he discovered his own nobility that he became a savage.

In many ways, Bane was the person Neeson wished he could have turned Bruce Wayne into.

Of course, I'm not much of a comic book reader, so I'm merely judging the story in the film.
2012-07-29 09:15:17 PM  
1 votes:

Close2TheEdge: Kaybeck: Close2TheEdge: 30 seconds of Bruce Wayne doing something badass to sneak in would have been enough. And showed that he was more than just the suit and high-tech weaponry.

A whole segment in the first movie where he trained as a ninja in the art of stealth and deception. Why do people need to have every little thing spelled out and spoon-fed to them?

Skills, which he never employed except when in the bat-suit, but why let facts get in the way of a good snarky insult. Actually, I don't need things spoon fed, but I also don't simply accept things that don't make sense because the scriptwriter simply leaves it out. I hope that there actually is a cut scene and not plain hackneyed writing.


But skills he was taught before the suit was even built.
Seriously, you want this to be an issue, but it really comes off as nit-picking.
2012-07-29 08:48:04 PM  
1 votes:

Kaybeck: A whole segment in the first movie where he trained as a ninja in the art of stealth and deception. Why do people need to have every little thing spelled out and spoon-fed to them?


Yeah, I just don't get why people ask this question. Answer has four words:

League of farking Shadows.

Is it really THAT difficult to comprehend?
2012-07-29 08:24:22 PM  
1 votes:

Close2TheEdge: 30 seconds of Bruce Wayne doing something badass to sneak in would have been enough. And showed that he was more than just the suit and high-tech weaponry.


A whole segment in the first movie where he trained as a ninja in the art of stealth and deception. Why do people need to have every little thing spelled out and spoon-fed to them?
2012-07-29 07:27:06 PM  
1 votes:
I'm boycotting The Watch on principal. It's just offensive they'd make a Trayvon movie before the trial even starts. Too soon.
2012-07-29 05:58:16 PM  
1 votes:
2012-07-29 05:05:00 PM  
1 votes:

consider this: Close2TheEdge: Couple that with the enormous plot holes (how exactly did Bruce Wayne re-enter the city?)

How is that a plot hole? He's the goddamn Batman, I'm sure he can find a way to sneak into Gotham. It's not like they had armed guards every 20 feet around the entire perimeter.


Exactly my point. They suggested that by blowing the bridges, nobody could get out. Yet, Bruce Wayne gets IN? Without any of his awesome stealth gear? And nobody recognizes him? I thought that was just asking the audience to purposely not use it's brain. Maybe there was a scene cut, I don't know.

The Bane army never seemed large enough or terrifying enough to maintain control of an entire city, even with the supposed bomb threat. There would be escapes, and once word got out that escapes were possible, there would be a breakdown of control. Besides, what exactly did the thugs get out of this scheme? Bane basically said, I'm going to eventually kill you all. You mean to tell me the Bane army were all OK with a sucicide pact? Please. He wasn't farking Jim Jones, for chrissakes.
2012-07-29 04:49:18 PM  
1 votes:

Close2TheEdge: Couple that with the enormous plot holes (how exactly did Bruce Wayne re-enter the city?)


How is that a plot hole? He's the goddamn Batman, I'm sure he can find a way to sneak into Gotham. It's not like they had armed guards every 20 feet around the entire perimeter.
2012-07-29 03:05:17 PM  
1 votes:

Britney Spear's Speculum: FYI to anyone who hasn't see the film: TDKR is a BRUCE WAYNE film, not a Batman film. Knowing this, you won't be disappoint.


I didn't know that going in, and I still loved it.
2012-07-29 03:03:18 PM  
1 votes:

Honest Bender: alwaysjaded: Went again in IMAX with the understanding that the movie's theme was pain and it was more about Bruce and the aftermath of being Batman did to him and those he cared for and I liked it a whole lot more.

That's not Batman. Spiderman, maybe. But Batman is a symbol. He doesn't give up. He doesn't complain. He never stops. That's what makes Batman so awesome. The concept of Batman locking himself up in his mansion for the better part of a DECADE because his girly friend died is insulting. That's NOT Batman.

Batman would brood. He'd get darker. He would NOT abscond to France to live out his life as a spoiled rich family man.


Well, I've always thought of Nolan's trilogy as like a stand alone story from a graphic novel. He's an author that took an established character and put his own spin on it that's not really part of canon. So it works within its own rules. Just my opinion.
2012-07-29 02:59:53 PM  
1 votes:

Mawson of the Antarctic: Jim Emerson on why a lot of filmmakers think TDKR was mediocre


Wait, you mean these guys?

Josh is from Chicago and used to be a regular film & music critic but is now focusing on a degree in medieval history (!) but still blogs on cinema and remains one of my favourite cine-thinkers. Mike is an aspiring filmmaker who has written on film for years, and works for the Vancouver International Film Festival. Myself, I'm a MUBI editor, run The Noteworthy here and write articles when I find the time.

A couple of guys who write blogs and a guy who wants to make movies but has never actually made one? Sounds like a couple of wannabe (AKA, "aspiring") directors getting together to consilidate their butt-hurt about being failures.
2012-07-29 02:52:16 PM  
1 votes:
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2012-07-29 02:38:20 PM  
1 votes:
Ridiculously full of Spoilers:

So I had a lot of issues with TDKR, but the biggest one is that after Bane "broke him" and took him to the prison he healed rather quickly. They said that Bruce had his back broken, and at one point even said "you have a vertebrae sticking out of your skin". So the guy with the rope is apparently the greatest physical therapist ever, Bruce went from broken back, to climbing and jumping out of prison and going back to fight Bane again in less than 5 months. I get that this is a comic book movie and things like this happen in comics but it doesn't fit Nolan's M.O.. Nolan has been trying to make his trilogy "realistic" but totally blew it here.

Or, the second half of the movie never happened. Bruce is broken and in prison, the guy in the cell next to him is a morphine addict. They were told to keep Bruce alive, not fix him. So the second half of the movie is Bruce's morphine induced idealized dream of what he would like to happen. Bruce never made it out of the prison, and he did die. It's the only way the second half of the movie makes sense in the Nolanverse. If you doubt Nolan would do this then you obviously didn't see Inception.
2012-07-29 01:09:02 PM  
1 votes:

Shadowknight: I still liked it. But it was kind of disappointing in some way I haven't quite placed yet.


Spoony Experiment did a good review (contains spoilers) of the film. It's an hour long but it might help you address the problems you are looking for.

Omis: TDKR is the first movie I've watched more than once in the theater since I was a kid.


I considered seeing it again in theaters and that's usually crazy talk for me.
2012-07-29 01:02:46 PM  
1 votes:
TDKR is the first movie I've watched more than once in the theater since I was a kid. The thing I find funny is that the people who don't like this movie usually say that Batman Begins is the best in the series. Where I am the opposite, I think it is the weakest. But they are all pretty close in terms of quality. Just BB has a sound stage look to it that I don't like.
2012-07-29 12:49:18 PM  
1 votes:
I loved... LOVED the first 2 batman movies. Nolan is an artist. Dark Knight Rises was.... not good. It saddens me to say that, but it was not good. The first half of the movie is boring. It's the Bruce Wayne pitty party. Catwoman was shoehorned in there so that they could shake a pretty booty around the screen and give Batman a hot chick to kiss at the dramatic point.
Then there's the fake out ending. Is he dead? SURPRISE! He's not! Didn't see that one coming... What was the point of that?
Blake decides to become Robin... Ok, that's neat. Too bad we'll never see that movie. And his name is Robin Blake? Seriously? And he's supposed to be Robin? There have been 5 robins and none of them were named Robin Blake. WTF?
Damn near any fight Batman gets into makes him look like a little biatch. He's the god damned BATMAN! WTF? And the big fight at the end... A farking street brawl? Batman in a daylight street brawl? He's the dark knight. He uses fear and stealth. He doesn't throw down on Main Street at noon!
And then there's "Bane." Let's completely ignore the richly developed and established plethora of Batman villains and let's invent a TOTALLY new bad guy. Then let's just slap an established character's name on him! BRILLIANT! Why not just call him the penguin? Or Riddlerface. WTF.
Then there's the totally unnecessary shoehorning in of Talia al ghul and the brotherhood of assassins. Totally unnecessary. I felt like I was watching Spiderman 3 all over again. How many bad guys can we cram into one movie!?

FFS. I was disappointed. :-(

/Oh ya. Spoilers.
2012-07-29 12:49:02 PM  
1 votes:
FYI to anyone who hasn't see the film: TDKR is a BRUCE WAYNE film, not a Batman film. Knowing this, you won't be disappoint.
2012-07-29 12:35:47 PM  
1 votes:

farkityfarker: Seriously? It's a movie about a man who fights crime while dressed in a cheesy bat costume.

What's wrong with people?


Apparently if you turn any goofy comic book into a gritty crime drama, people will fawn over it like its a farking masterpiece.
2012-07-29 12:33:20 PM  
1 votes:

Shadowknight: I still liked it. But it was kind of disappointing in some way I haven't quite placed yet.


The vast majority of any complaints I have with the film are all based on expectations I had. I think this is rather common. Could name specifics, but I would hate to spoil things. The real complaints with the film simply are not significant enough for me to be disappointed in any stretch; no film is perfect.
2012-07-29 12:26:12 PM  
1 votes:
**Possible Spoilers**

I was actually kind of disappointed in it. I loved the first two, but I feel like Nolan actually went too far into the pretentiousness of his Batman. Having him moping around and whining about being Batman was just annoying and boring.

Having Bruce give up on Batman just seems so out of character with every other version of the character I've ever liked. The movie itself just seemed badly characterized and paced.

I still liked it. But it was kind of disappointing in some way I haven't quite placed yet.
2012-07-29 12:13:01 PM  
1 votes:
Seriously? It's a movie about a man who fights crime while dressed in a cheesy bat costume.

What's wrong with people?
2012-07-29 12:12:02 PM  
1 votes:
What about number three?
 
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