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(Deadline)   The Dark Knight Rises closes in on $500 million, taking the weekend box office by storm. Meanwhile, few people watched The Watch, which debuted at #2, or stepped up to buy a ticket for Step Up Revolution, which debuted at #4   (deadline.com) divider line 156
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2012-07-29 12:12:02 PM
What about number three?
 
2012-07-29 12:13:01 PM
Seriously? It's a movie about a man who fights crime while dressed in a cheesy bat costume.

What's wrong with people?
 
2012-07-29 12:18:50 PM
The watch was very funny. I hope more people see it. They should also try to check out Killer Joe and Ruby Sparks. Two other good movies that opened this weekend. Ahhh, 3 movies, $7. Thank god for NYC theaters!
 
2012-07-29 12:19:33 PM
I seriously thought the trailer for Step Up Whatever was a joke when I was forced to sit through it at the movies. It seemed so drenched in satire it seemed unpossible that it was real.
 
2012-07-29 12:23:40 PM

likes838: I seriously thought the trailer for Step Up Whatever was a joke when I was forced to sit through it at the movies. It seemed so drenched in satire it seemed unpossible that it was real.


I feel that way about all of those movies. As far as I can tell, the premise for them is that hardcore street thugs settle their differences with dance competitions? Is that basically it?
 
2012-07-29 12:24:05 PM

likes838: I seriously thought the trailer for Step Up Whatever was a joke when I was forced to sit through it at the movies. It seemed so drenched in satire it seemed unpossible that it was real.


It truly does seem like someone's incredibly well done elaborate joke. But when you get right down to, it, weren't the 80s full of "we're going to fight against ____________ using the magical power of dance."

It's pretty much a shot for shot remake of "Breakin' 2: Electric Boogaloo."
 
2012-07-29 12:26:12 PM
**Possible Spoilers**

I was actually kind of disappointed in it. I loved the first two, but I feel like Nolan actually went too far into the pretentiousness of his Batman. Having him moping around and whining about being Batman was just annoying and boring.

Having Bruce give up on Batman just seems so out of character with every other version of the character I've ever liked. The movie itself just seemed badly characterized and paced.

I still liked it. But it was kind of disappointing in some way I haven't quite placed yet.
 
2012-07-29 12:27:15 PM
The Watch was....okay overall. Last 40 mins are awesome,though.
 
2012-07-29 12:31:27 PM
I went to go see TDKR on Thursday. An hour in, the fire alarm went off and they couldn't get it turned off. They sent us home with two free passes
 
2012-07-29 12:33:20 PM

Shadowknight: I still liked it. But it was kind of disappointing in some way I haven't quite placed yet.


The vast majority of any complaints I have with the film are all based on expectations I had. I think this is rather common. Could name specifics, but I would hate to spoil things. The real complaints with the film simply are not significant enough for me to be disappointed in any stretch; no film is perfect.
 
2012-07-29 12:33:48 PM

farkityfarker: Seriously? It's a movie about a man who fights crime while dressed in a cheesy bat costume.

What's wrong with people?


Careful with that shiat - coloring books movies are Serious Business TM
 
2012-07-29 12:35:47 PM

farkityfarker: Seriously? It's a movie about a man who fights crime while dressed in a cheesy bat costume.

What's wrong with people?


Apparently if you turn any goofy comic book into a gritty crime drama, people will fawn over it like its a farking masterpiece.
 
2012-07-29 12:40:08 PM

BokChoy: farkityfarker: Seriously? It's a movie about a man who fights crime while dressed in a cheesy bat costume.

What's wrong with people?

Apparently if you turn any goofy comic book into a gritty crime drama, people will fawn over it like its a farking masterpiece.


Yeah like those philistines who fawn over Citizen Kane. It's just a gussied-up version of Scrooge McDuck.
 
2012-07-29 12:41:22 PM
No subby, you mean #1 with a bullet. DUR HUR HUR
 
2012-07-29 12:43:21 PM

Vangor: Shadowknight: I still liked it. But it was kind of disappointing in some way I haven't quite placed yet.

The vast majority of any complaints I have with the film are all based on expectations I had. I think this is rather common. Could name specifics, but I would hate to spoil things. The real complaints with the film simply are not significant enough for me to be disappointed in any stretch; no film is perfect.


I suppose. It's just that it lost me right from the beginning. I just figured that with Rachel dying, every incarnation of the Bat I've known and loved would have just gone even more hardcore. He would have lost himself in the cape, not just went all hermit in his house.

It just got worse from there for me. From Alfred's reaction to Lucius' change of heart to character betrayal I saw from about the first ten minutes after they were introduced... like I said, I can't really tag any major specifics. Just felt like a different Batman than I was expecting, I guess.

/also, Bale still growled like a starving dog
 
2012-07-29 12:43:26 PM
Yikes, Box Office Mojo has "Ice Age 4" overtaking "The Watch" for #2.

Glad I swapped "The Watch" for "Ted" on my Summer Movie League. I just wish I hadn't left "Ted" at #9 overall, but how the hell could anyone have guessed that the talking teddy bear movie was going to make $200 million?
 
2012-07-29 12:49:02 PM
FYI to anyone who hasn't see the film: TDKR is a BRUCE WAYNE film, not a Batman film. Knowing this, you won't be disappoint.
 
2012-07-29 12:49:18 PM
I loved... LOVED the first 2 batman movies. Nolan is an artist. Dark Knight Rises was.... not good. It saddens me to say that, but it was not good. The first half of the movie is boring. It's the Bruce Wayne pitty party. Catwoman was shoehorned in there so that they could shake a pretty booty around the screen and give Batman a hot chick to kiss at the dramatic point.
Then there's the fake out ending. Is he dead? SURPRISE! He's not! Didn't see that one coming... What was the point of that?
Blake decides to become Robin... Ok, that's neat. Too bad we'll never see that movie. And his name is Robin Blake? Seriously? And he's supposed to be Robin? There have been 5 robins and none of them were named Robin Blake. WTF?
Damn near any fight Batman gets into makes him look like a little biatch. He's the god damned BATMAN! WTF? And the big fight at the end... A farking street brawl? Batman in a daylight street brawl? He's the dark knight. He uses fear and stealth. He doesn't throw down on Main Street at noon!
And then there's "Bane." Let's completely ignore the richly developed and established plethora of Batman villains and let's invent a TOTALLY new bad guy. Then let's just slap an established character's name on him! BRILLIANT! Why not just call him the penguin? Or Riddlerface. WTF.
Then there's the totally unnecessary shoehorning in of Talia al ghul and the brotherhood of assassins. Totally unnecessary. I felt like I was watching Spiderman 3 all over again. How many bad guys can we cram into one movie!?

FFS. I was disappointed. :-(

/Oh ya. Spoilers.
 
2012-07-29 12:57:43 PM

Honest Bender: I loved... LOVED the first 2 batman movies. Nolan is an artist. Dark Knight Rises was.... not good. It saddens me to say that, but it was not good. The first half of the movie is boring. It's the Bruce Wayne pitty party. Catwoman was shoehorned in there so that they could shake a pretty booty around the screen and give Batman a hot chick to kiss at the dramatic point.
Then there's the fake out ending. Is he dead? SURPRISE! He's not! Didn't see that one coming... What was the point of that?
Blake decides to become Robin... Ok, that's neat. Too bad we'll never see that movie. And his name is Robin Blake? Seriously? And he's supposed to be Robin? There have been 5 robins and none of them were named Robin Blake. WTF?
Damn near any fight Batman gets into makes him look like a little biatch. He's the god damned BATMAN! WTF? And the big fight at the end... A farking street brawl? Batman in a daylight street brawl? He's the dark knight. He uses fear and stealth. He doesn't throw down on Main Street at noon!
And then there's "Bane." Let's completely ignore the richly developed and established plethora of Batman villains and let's invent a TOTALLY new bad guy. Then let's just slap an established character's name on him! BRILLIANT! Why not just call him the penguin? Or Riddlerface. WTF.
Then there's the totally unnecessary shoehorning in of Talia al ghul and the brotherhood of assassins. Totally unnecessary. I felt like I was watching Spiderman 3 all over again. How many bad guys can we cram into one movie!?

FFS. I was disappointed. :-(

/Oh ya. Spoilers.


There were fewer "Anne Hathaway's ass in tight leather" shots than I expected.

Also, it couuld have done without catwoman entirely....the whole "reluctant hero who shows up at the last minute" thing loses its punch when you can see it coming from a mile away.
 
2012-07-29 01:00:23 PM

Mulchpuppy: Yikes, Box Office Mojo has "Ice Age 4" overtaking "The Watch" for #2.

Glad I swapped "The Watch" for "Ted" on my Summer Movie League. I just wish I hadn't left "Ted" at #9 overall, but how the hell could anyone have guessed that the talking teddy bear movie was going to make $200 million?


Dude, Seth MacFarlane came up with it. Everything he touches seems to turn into wads of cash, whether or not it's warranted.

/for the record, I liked Ted. It was like an extended episode of Family Guy.
//and that's all it needed to be.
 
2012-07-29 01:02:46 PM
TDKR is the first movie I've watched more than once in the theater since I was a kid. The thing I find funny is that the people who don't like this movie usually say that Batman Begins is the best in the series. Where I am the opposite, I think it is the weakest. But they are all pretty close in terms of quality. Just BB has a sound stage look to it that I don't like.
 
2012-07-29 01:08:16 PM

Shadowknight: I suppose. It's just that it lost me right from the beginning. I just figured that with Rachel dying, every incarnation of the Bat I've known and loved would have just gone even more hardcore. He would have lost himself in the cape, not just went all hermit in his house.


He was talking about ending the Batman thing in the second one after Rachel died and had to be convinced not to.

I think it would be pretty jarring if he came out as "the Goddamn Batman" in this movie, because he never really was that in the first two movies plus he is 8 years older. That's why criticism like yours and Harry Knowles' doesn't really make sense to me if you enjoyed the character in the first two movies. Hanging up the cape for 8 years and being a depressed shut in makes sense for what had already been established.

While it was far from a perfect movie, I thought it was a great way to end the trilogy.
 
2012-07-29 01:09:02 PM

Shadowknight: I still liked it. But it was kind of disappointing in some way I haven't quite placed yet.


Spoony Experiment did a good review (contains spoilers) of the film. It's an hour long but it might help you address the problems you are looking for.

Omis: TDKR is the first movie I've watched more than once in the theater since I was a kid.


I considered seeing it again in theaters and that's usually crazy talk for me.
 
2012-07-29 01:11:11 PM

darkedgefan: The watch was very funny. I hope more people see it. They should also try to check out Killer Joe and Ruby Sparks. Two other good movies that opened this weekend. Ahhh, 3 movies, $7. Thank god for NYC theaters!


I wanted to see Killer Joe, but Boston gets treated like some backwater hicksville when it comes to small or independent films. Everything I heard about it is awesome, but I guess it will be a few more weeks before it comes here. The Watch looks silly and since there was nothing else I wanted to see in the theaters I just stayed home and watched some Netflix.
 
2012-07-29 01:11:20 PM

Britney Spear's Speculum: FYI to anyone who hasn't see the film: TDKR is a BRUCE WAYNE film, not a Batman film. Knowing this, you won't be disappoint.


They already made that movie, its called American Psycho.
 
2012-07-29 01:13:48 PM

Shadowknight: I just figured that with Rachel dying, every incarnation of the Bat I've known and loved would have just gone even more hardcore. He would have lost himself in the cape, not just went all hermit in his house.


I think that would have been a more interesting version. Seeing him lose touch with humanity and becoming a crueler darker vigilante until Bane breaks him, and he's forced to reconnect emotionally to his origins in the prison sequence.
 
2012-07-29 01:39:42 PM

farkityfarker: Seriously? It's a movie about a man who fights crime while dressed in a cheesy bat costume.

What's wrong with people?


Actually, if you'd seen the movie, you'd see that it's about a man who DOESN'T fight crime while dressed in a cheesy bat costume. That is to say, he doesn't wear the costume and he also doesn't fight crime.
 
2012-07-29 01:42:28 PM

BokChoy: Britney Spear's Speculum: FYI to anyone who hasn't see the film: TDKR is a BRUCE WAYNE film, not a Batman film. Knowing this, you won't be disappoint.

They already made that movie, its called American Psycho.


They made a movie out of that book?
 
2012-07-29 01:45:08 PM
Jim Emerson on why a lot of filmmakers think TDKR was mediocre

The gist of it I can take is Nolan edits out anything that's atmospheric because he is a fan of exposition. As a result you are told a story rather than FEEL a story. We never get a sense of what 8 years of isolation does to Wayne, we're told it in passing. No Citizen Kane like shots of wandering in a mansion/prison of his own making, we never get to really see what 3 months under anarchy was like for Gotham's citizens... Etc.

Nolan's movies feel like a lot of interesting ideas but no time to play with them.
 
2012-07-29 01:53:54 PM

farkityfarker: Seriously? It's a movie about a man who fights crime while dressed in a cheesy bad-ass bat costume made by mr. titty sprinkles himself.


i.qkme.me
 
2012-07-29 02:26:18 PM

farkityfarker: Seriously? It's a movie about a man who fights crime while dressed in a cheesy bat costume.

What's wrong with people?


This is just lazy. Try harder.
 
2012-07-29 02:37:10 PM

Britney Spear's Speculum: Shadowknight: I still liked it. But it was kind of disappointing in some way I haven't quite placed yet.

Spoony Experiment did a good review (contains spoilers) of the film. It's an hour long but it might help you address the problems you are looking for.

Omis: TDKR is the first movie I've watched more than once in the theater since I was a kid.

I considered seeing it again in theaters and that's usually crazy talk for me.


I would. In IMAX if you didn't before. I was warned before hand that the tone of the movie was a lot different than the others. Walking out, I could see what they meant. Went again in IMAX with the understanding that the movie's theme was pain and it was more about Bruce and the aftermath of being Batman did to him and those he cared for and I liked it a whole lot more. I had some minor gripes (the fan service ending being one of them) but I was more than satisfied with the rest. Loved Bane.
 
2012-07-29 02:38:20 PM
Ridiculously full of Spoilers:

So I had a lot of issues with TDKR, but the biggest one is that after Bane "broke him" and took him to the prison he healed rather quickly. They said that Bruce had his back broken, and at one point even said "you have a vertebrae sticking out of your skin". So the guy with the rope is apparently the greatest physical therapist ever, Bruce went from broken back, to climbing and jumping out of prison and going back to fight Bane again in less than 5 months. I get that this is a comic book movie and things like this happen in comics but it doesn't fit Nolan's M.O.. Nolan has been trying to make his trilogy "realistic" but totally blew it here.

Or, the second half of the movie never happened. Bruce is broken and in prison, the guy in the cell next to him is a morphine addict. They were told to keep Bruce alive, not fix him. So the second half of the movie is Bruce's morphine induced idealized dream of what he would like to happen. Bruce never made it out of the prison, and he did die. It's the only way the second half of the movie makes sense in the Nolanverse. If you doubt Nolan would do this then you obviously didn't see Inception.
 
2012-07-29 02:43:50 PM

alwaysjaded: Went again in IMAX with the understanding that the movie's theme was pain and it was more about Bruce and the aftermath of being Batman did to him and those he cared for and I liked it a whole lot more.


That's not Batman. Spiderman, maybe. But Batman is a symbol. He doesn't give up. He doesn't complain. He never stops. That's what makes Batman so awesome. The concept of Batman locking himself up in his mansion for the better part of a DECADE because his girly friend died is insulting. That's NOT Batman.

Batman would brood. He'd get darker. He would NOT abscond to France to live out his life as a spoiled rich family man.
 
2012-07-29 02:46:27 PM

Almet: Also, it couuld have done without catwoman entirely....the whole "reluctant hero who shows up at the last minute" thing loses its punch when you can see it coming from a mile away.


What bugged me was that, and admittedly, I have a hard time articulating this, but many places that character showed up, it was like the writers wrote a Catwoman-shaped hole that was entirely unnecessary (the prison scene, for instance; she got locked up in a men's facility, because she broke out of a women's facility when she was 16 - as if one thing has anything to do with the other - and really, it was there to showcase her doing the cartwheel thing because she was only broken out by Bane later anyway, which made her incarceration totally pointless; and the end there, did clearing the tunnel really do anything more than to set up that moment - and how did she know how to drive that thing anyway?).
 
2012-07-29 02:47:56 PM
SPOILERS

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The Dark Knight Rises was a mess from just after Bane breaks Batman to just before Batman returns to Gotham.
 
2012-07-29 02:48:04 PM

darkedgefan: The watch was very funny. I hope more people see it. They should also try to check out Killer Joe and Ruby Sparks. Two other good movies that opened this weekend. Ahhh, 3 movies, $7. Thank god for NYC theaters!


I wish I had seen Killer Joe instead of "The Watch" as I've heard great things about Friedkin's latest(damn,it's been ages since that I've heard that name). NC-17 flicks are notoriously difficult to find in my neck of the woods these days.
 
2012-07-29 02:48:47 PM
Why does everything have to be a trilogy? I mean, I liked TDKR, but it seems like they really tortured a third movie out of this franchise. The ending of TDK would have been a perfect ending for this series with Batman on the run. Leave it at two or, heck, why not go James Bond style and just keep going?
 
2012-07-29 02:50:10 PM

velvet_fog: Why does everything have to be a trilogy? I mean, I liked TDKR, but it seems like they really tortured a third movie out of this franchise. The ending of TDK would have been a perfect ending for this series with Batman on the run. Leave it at two or, heck, why not go James Bond style and just keep going?


Could be worse. Nolan could have been persuaded to break it into two parts so the studio could make more money...

Actually, now that I think about it, maybe it wouldn't have been that bad an idea.
 
2012-07-29 02:51:18 PM

ODDwhun: Ridiculously full of Spoilers:

It's the only way the second half of the movie makes sense in the Nolanverse. If you doubt Nolan would do this then you obviously didn't see Inception.


Was there anything in the movie to indicate that the second half was the result of morphine-fueled dreaming. Inception gives you something in its framework to indicate a "less-than-happy" ending.
 
2012-07-29 02:52:16 PM
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2012-07-29 02:57:08 PM
I finally saw TDK this weekend.

What a disappointment. Very mediocre movie (worst of the 3 batman films). If it wasn't for Bane - it could have been much better.
 
2012-07-29 02:57:12 PM

The All-Powerful Atheismo: [24.media.tumblr.com image 500x366]


They completely farked up Bane's voice from what it was when the prologue was first shown last year. I would have rather they used subtitles than to fark with it the way they did. Maybe it was just because I'd seen the prologue, but every time Bane spoke, it sounded like a bad post-production dub.
 
2012-07-29 02:57:34 PM

Britney Spear's Speculum: FYI to anyone who hasn't see the film: TDKR is a BRUCE WAYNE film, not a Batman film. Knowing this, you won't be disappoint.


You remember that scene at the costume ball with Selina Kyle?

There is no Bruce Wayne. Just the Batman.
 
2012-07-29 02:59:34 PM
I liked it. Thought the Avengers was better, but I enjoyed it the whole time. Only complaint was Bane's rushed death scene. Took me a while to realize he was even dead.
 
2012-07-29 02:59:53 PM

Mawson of the Antarctic: Jim Emerson on why a lot of filmmakers think TDKR was mediocre


Wait, you mean these guys?

Josh is from Chicago and used to be a regular film & music critic but is now focusing on a degree in medieval history (!) but still blogs on cinema and remains one of my favourite cine-thinkers. Mike is an aspiring filmmaker who has written on film for years, and works for the Vancouver International Film Festival. Myself, I'm a MUBI editor, run The Noteworthy here and write articles when I find the time.

A couple of guys who write blogs and a guy who wants to make movies but has never actually made one? Sounds like a couple of wannabe (AKA, "aspiring") directors getting together to consilidate their butt-hurt about being failures.
 
2012-07-29 03:00:29 PM
Speaking of movies, the trailer for 'Cloud Atlas' is pretty goddamn outstanding. Hopefully the movie can live up to the trailer.

Link
 
2012-07-29 03:02:25 PM

farkityfarker: Seriously? It's a movie about a man who fights crime while dressed in a cheesy bat costume.

What's wrong with people?


I know. I haven't like that movie since I saw the trailer on the TV I don't own.
Also, why do people insist on listening to bands that sold more than a hundred albums. Bunch of farking sellouts.

(Flips hair), God, the internet was so much cooler when it was on vinyl.
 
2012-07-29 03:03:18 PM

Honest Bender: alwaysjaded: Went again in IMAX with the understanding that the movie's theme was pain and it was more about Bruce and the aftermath of being Batman did to him and those he cared for and I liked it a whole lot more.

That's not Batman. Spiderman, maybe. But Batman is a symbol. He doesn't give up. He doesn't complain. He never stops. That's what makes Batman so awesome. The concept of Batman locking himself up in his mansion for the better part of a DECADE because his girly friend died is insulting. That's NOT Batman.

Batman would brood. He'd get darker. He would NOT abscond to France to live out his life as a spoiled rich family man.


Well, I've always thought of Nolan's trilogy as like a stand alone story from a graphic novel. He's an author that took an established character and put his own spin on it that's not really part of canon. So it works within its own rules. Just my opinion.
 
2012-07-29 03:05:17 PM

Britney Spear's Speculum: FYI to anyone who hasn't see the film: TDKR is a BRUCE WAYNE film, not a Batman film. Knowing this, you won't be disappoint.


I didn't know that going in, and I still loved it.
 
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