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(CBS News)   Charlie Sheen's new sitcom may be renewed for an additional 90 episodes. Wait, FX thinks Sheen will be alive long enough to film 90 more episodes?   (cbsnews.com) divider line 42
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2012-07-29 06:17:29 AM
FTA: "The production schedule would call for filming a total of 100 episodes in just two years. This kind of cost-saving routine means no time for rehearsals, said executive producer Bruce Helford."

Well, at least they know the recipe for quality.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-07-29 08:06:05 AM
Wait, FX thinks Sheen will be alive long enough to film 90 more episodes?

You can buy insurance for your stars.
 
2012-07-29 08:37:50 AM
He'll outlive FX.
 
2012-07-29 10:34:05 AM
is this show any good? i've only caught like 2 minutes that got tacked on to the end of a DVR'd episode of wilfred. i was not impressed.
 
2012-07-29 10:49:22 AM

ZAZ: Wait, FX thinks Sheen will be alive long enough to film 90 more episodes?

You can buy insurance for your stars.


Heh... talk about a good investment
 
2012-07-29 11:03:23 AM

thomps: is this show any good? i've only caught like 2 minutes that got tacked on to the end of a DVR'd episode of wilfred. i was not impressed.


It's alright. Some of the jokes are predictable. The best scenes are the actual group therapy scenes.
 
2012-07-29 11:21:03 AM
What annoys me about this is that FX has had a history so far of taking chances on independent comedies made by relative unknowns. I mean, "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia" came to them as a pilot shot on a camcorder by three guys for less than $200. And they gave Louis CK pretty much total control over his show, down to editing it himself.

I suppose if this pays FX's bills and helps them take chances with other shows, it's OK, I don't have to watch. But this show is pretty much just your standard-issue broadcast TV sitcom with more swearing.
 
2012-07-29 11:28:08 AM
It has its moments. I've only seen the first 3 episodes, and the third was noticeably worse than the first two, but still had a good laugh line or two.

You can definitely tell it's not being put together in the standard sitcom one episode per week format. Looks like they start rehearsal in the morning then tape in the afternoon.
 
2012-07-29 11:39:55 AM
HTF does sheen keep getting work? He's LITERALLY got no talent.
 
2012-07-29 11:46:08 AM
They had such a great chance and have blown it on mediocre jokes and situations.
It's so generic, Ashton kutcher now seems to be the edgy one.

It's freaking FX!
These are the people that produce ARCHER and you give us an 80's sitcom with fresher jokes?
Good luck with that.
 
2012-07-29 11:46:45 AM

jake_lex: I suppose if this pays FX's bills and helps them take chances with other shows, it's OK


This.
 
2012-07-29 11:54:03 AM
*Sigh* Sad but quite true.
 
2012-07-29 11:54:44 AM
Yes, please, produce another 90 episodes of 'Selma Blair in Lingerie.'
 
2012-07-29 12:03:45 PM
Nobody can give up on this guy, can they? Maybe the network is hoping for a Robert Downey, Jr-esque turnaround. Unfortunately, lightning typically doesn't strike twice for addicts.
 
2012-07-29 12:04:03 PM

Honest Bender: HTF does sheen keep getting work? He's LITERALLY got no talent.


No, he had a modicum of talent; he was good in Wall Street and the two Hot Shots movies.

Over time, it's become clear that Emilio got the bulk of the talent, which has apparently turned out to be directing, rather than acting.
 
2012-07-29 12:25:52 PM
Since Charlie is described as "twitchy" and wearing a long sleeved shirt with shorts, I'm going yo read between the lines and suggest the article's writer thinks he's back on the coke. WINNING.
 
2012-07-29 12:58:28 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: ZAZ: Wait, FX thinks Sheen will be alive long enough to film 90 more episodes?

You can buy insurance for your stars.

Heh... talk about a good investment


I'm betting that's why they did this...

1. Sign Charlie Sheen for 90 episodes
2. Take out large insurance policy
3. ????
4. Profit!
 
2012-07-29 01:14:58 PM
this seems like a stupid decision for fx. i haven't seen the show personally, but given what happened with his 'tour', people show up to see what it is about and then gradually lose interest. the same thing happened to that palin show. record premiere, bombed the rest...



ZAZ: Wait, FX thinks Sheen will be alive long enough to film 90 more episodes?

You can buy insurance for your stars.


ya, but how much will it cost? i think lilo knows a thing or two about this.



Dwight_Yeast: Honest Bender: HTF does sheen keep getting work? He's LITERALLY got no talent.

No, he had a modicum of talent; he was good in Wall Street and the two Hot Shots movies.

Over time, it's become clear that Emilio got the bulk of the talent, which has apparently turned out to be directing, rather than acting.




you know how i know you have never seen NAVY SEALS? :P

/and ferris bueller
 
2012-07-29 01:35:32 PM
FTA: "The production schedule would call for filming a total of 100 episodes in just two years. This kind of cost-saving routine means no time for rehearsals, said executive producer Bruce Helford."
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Means you got to write 90 episodes in that time. I can't imagine good quality coming from that.
 
2012-07-29 02:06:13 PM
MOAR SHAWNEE SMITH NOW!
 
2012-07-29 03:01:14 PM
This is their insurance clause. He'll do four or five seasons and then be unable to fulfill his contract. They'll sue him for the outstanding 8o-something episodes. They'll get all they paid him and wayyyy more. Quite savvy, actually.

He no longer has a fortune. He's leasing it from FX.
 
2012-07-29 03:14:46 PM
Watched 2 minutes just because i love everything else on FX, laugh track, turned it off. I have so many other shows that i need to watch.
 
2012-07-29 03:15:49 PM
If the ad revenue makes it possible for many more episodes of Justified, make it so.
 
2012-07-29 06:26:27 PM

jake3988: FTA: "The production schedule would call for filming a total of 100 episodes in just two years. This kind of cost-saving routine means no time for rehearsals, said executive producer Bruce Helford."
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Means you got to write 90 episodes in that time. I can't imagine good quality coming from that.


It's called the Tyler Perry method (or the Debmar-Mercury model). This is the contract he uses for all of his shows. The network purchases an initial run of 10 episodes and, if the show works, they order ninety more and film them in two years. It gives the network five to ten seasons worth of episodes without having to keep actors, writers, and producers signed on for that long. Or, you can binge on them and keep airing more. House of Payne was the first show to use this model and it's aired 250 episodes over six years for TBS. It's used for more now than his shows, but it's still not very common.
 
2012-07-29 06:36:39 PM

Ernie the Fork: This is their insurance clause. He'll do four or five seasons and then be unable to fulfill his contract. They'll sue him for the outstanding 8o-something episodes. They'll get all they paid him and wayyyy more. Quite savvy, actually.

He no longer has a fortune. He's leasing it from FX.


gimmegimme: FTA: "The production schedule would call for filming a total of 100 episodes in just two years. This kind of cost-saving routine means no time for rehearsals, said executive producer Bruce Helford."

Well, at least they know the recipe for quality.


It's a fascinating idea, however. While most American shows do better with fewer episodes (see any hit today borne on a cable channel), other stations are putting worth some money for a lot of episodes up front. The really bizarre thing is that Bruce Helford is involved in this deal. He was one of the guys behind Drew Carey's show that got a big contract up front from ABC which led them burning off the last few seasons of Drew Carey, the last two (or one and a half) during the Summer of 2003 and 2004. It's especially funny because the last season aired during the first few weeks of August 2004 were aired throughout the week (often three to four episodes per day) and cost ABC three million dollars per episode.

Why anybody would do this is remarkable onto itself, especially since you would think they would learn.
 
2012-07-29 06:39:45 PM

rugman11: jake3988: FTA: "The production schedule would call for filming a total of 100 episodes in just two years. This kind of cost-saving routine means no time for rehearsals, said executive producer Bruce Helford."
===================================================================

Means you got to write 90 episodes in that time. I can't imagine good quality coming from that.

It's called the Tyler Perry method (or the Debmar-Mercury model). This is the contract he uses for all of his shows. The network purchases an initial run of 10 episodes and, if the show works, they order ninety more and film them in two years. It gives the network five to ten seasons worth of episodes without having to keep actors, writers, and producers signed on for that long. Or, you can binge on them and keep airing more. House of Payne was the first show to use this model and it's aired 250 episodes over six years for TBS. It's used for more now than his shows, but it's still not very common.


And the sad thing is, the episodes aren't very good. You just have to watch about two to three episodes to realize they're done in one take and that the writing is cookie-cutter. Also notice they don't spend much on costumes for a reason: this allows the acts (parts between the commercials) to be slapped in willy-nilly. It's almost like a Choose Your Own Adventure style of sitcom.

The fact that Sheen actually entertained this shows how far his star has fallen. Keep in mind that Tyler Perry doesn't really have many famous actors on his show because they wouldn't put up with this kind of punishing schedule.
 
2012-07-29 07:15:28 PM
I think its telling that this is comment #27 after being up for whatever amount of hours it is and no one has actually watched the show. If you have actually watched the show, please list below what is good about it, don't worry we won't hold it against you (much):
 
2012-07-29 07:29:00 PM

BumpInTheNight: I think its telling that this is comment #27 after being up for whatever amount of hours it is and no one has actually watched the show. If you have actually watched the show, please list below what is good about it, don't worry we won't hold it against you (much):


I watch it. It's a pretty standard sitcom. Has some funny jokes. Some duds. It's hugely self-aware regarding Charlie and his past.
Good points? As I mentioned before, pretty much every episode features Selma Blair in her underwear. Shawnee Smith is good, Barry Corbin is good as usual as a crotchety old man. Plus, Noureen Dewulf is cute and has some funny lines.
There.
Is it brilliant? Hell no. It's a sitcom, nothing more.
 
2012-07-29 08:04:31 PM
More importantly, who renews for 90 episodes? Even huge, well-funded productions usually don't renew for more than 2-3 seasons. Unless they're "locking in the star at the old rate" so to speak, it just sounds like the perfect storm setup for a huge flop everyone's stuck in..
 
2012-07-29 09:39:26 PM
Charlie Sheen's new sitcom may be renewed for an additional 90 episodes. Wait, FX thinks Sheen will be alive long enough to film 90 more episodes? sucks. I watched 5 minutes of it, and it was the definition of rubbish.
 
2012-07-29 09:52:51 PM
You can tell everything you need to know about a show by watching a random 5 minute segment?
 
2012-07-29 10:03:55 PM

Mugato: He'll outlive FX.



The Shield, Damages, Sons of Anarchy, Rescue Me, Justified, Louie

yeah FX will be around for a very long time

those are all top notch shows

Sheen belongs on cable tv not network.. he can act more like himself
 
2012-07-29 10:16:59 PM
It looks like subby has been reading othercrap.com. Or perhaps subby and Uncle Scoopy just have the same lame sense of humor.
 
2012-07-29 10:32:24 PM
latimesblogs.latimes.com

And meanwhile, these guys got cancelled. Nice going, FX.
 
2012-07-29 10:44:52 PM

Guntram Shatterhand: Ernie the Fork: This is their insurance clause. He'll do four or five seasons and then be unable to fulfill his contract. They'll sue him for the outstanding 8o-something episodes. They'll get all they paid him and wayyyy more. Quite savvy, actually.

He no longer has a fortune. He's leasing it from FX.

gimmegimme: FTA: "The production schedule would call for filming a total of 100 episodes in just two years. This kind of cost-saving routine means no time for rehearsals, said executive producer Bruce Helford."

Well, at least they know the recipe for quality.

It's a fascinating idea, however. While most American shows do better with fewer episodes (see any hit today borne on a cable channel), other stations are putting worth some money for a lot of episodes up front. The really bizarre thing is that Bruce Helford is involved in this deal. He was one of the guys behind Drew Carey's show that got a big contract up front from ABC which led them burning off the last few seasons of Drew Carey, the last two (or one and a half) during the Summer of 2003 and 2004. It's especially funny because the last season aired during the first few weeks of August 2004 were aired throughout the week (often three to four episodes per day) and cost ABC three million dollars per episode.

Why anybody would do this is remarkable onto itself, especially since you would think they would learn.


Holy shiat. I can't believe Drew Carey (which I loved) cost $3 million per episode.

Guntram Shatterhand: rugman11: jake3988: FTA: "The production schedule would call for filming a total of 100 episodes in just two years. This kind of cost-saving routine means no time for rehearsals, said executive producer Bruce Helford."
===================================================================

Means you got to write 90 episodes in that time. I can't imagine good quality coming from that.

It's called the Tyler Perry method (or the Debmar-Mercury model). This is the contract he uses for all of his shows. The network purchases an initial run of 10 episodes and, if the show works, they order ninety more and film them in two years. It gives the network five to ten seasons worth of episodes without having to keep actors, writers, and producers signed on for that long. Or, you can binge on them and keep airing more. House of Payne was the first show to use this model and it's aired 250 episodes over six years for TBS. It's used for more now than his shows, but it's still not very common.

And the sad thing is, the episodes aren't very good. You just have to watch about two to three episodes to realize they're done in one take and that the writing is cookie-cutter. Also notice they don't spend much on costumes for a reason: this allows the acts (parts between the commercials) to be slapped in willy-nilly. It's almost like a Choose Your Own Adventure style of sitcom.

The fact that Sheen actually entertained this shows how far his star has fallen. Keep in mind that Tyler Perry doesn't really have many famous actors on his show because they wouldn't put up with this kind of punishing schedule.


It's also hard to get decent actors to participate in shiatty shiat they know will be incredibly shiatty. I agree that Sheen has had problems, but I'm guessing he just needs the money and is happy to delude himself into believing the quality will remain the same. Tyler Perry is like a soft ice cream machine perpetually filled with shiat.
 
2012-07-30 08:42:24 AM
I really liked this show until denise richards showed up... now i can't watch it.. she is one evil biatch and her face is painful to look at:(
 
2012-07-30 10:56:23 AM

thomps: is this show any good? i've only caught like 2 minutes that got tacked on to the end of a DVR'd episode of wilfred. i was not impressed.


I like it....it's sure a hell of a lot better than 2 1/2 Men with what's his name...
 
2012-07-30 11:21:47 AM
Put Shawnee Smith, Selma Blair and Noureen Dewulf in lingerie and have them get into a pillow fight while Sheen snorts lines of coke off Denise Richards ass and they have the number 1 rated TV show in the history of TV....


/watched it a couple of times....and yeah, pretty standard sitcom fare with a few more swear words thrown in..neither great nor terrible
 
2012-07-30 11:39:19 AM

Mugato: He'll outlive FX.


You clearly aren't keeping score.

Original programs:

Sons of Anarchy (2008-present)
Justified (2010-present)
American Horror Story (2011-present)
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia (2005-present)
The League (2009-present)
Louie (2010-present)
Wilfred (2011-present)
Anger Management (2012-present)
Archer (2009-present)
 
2012-07-30 02:55:30 PM

Cyno01: Watched 2 minutes just because i love everything else on FX, laugh track, turned it off. I have so many other shows that i need to watch.


Cool, that's just what I do when I see one of these "I don't watch shows with laugh tracks because I think I am better than that" comments.
 
2012-07-30 11:12:59 PM

drivingsouth: And meanwhile, these guys got cancelled. Nice going, FX.


Don't remind me. Terriers and Lights Out would be award winning superstars on networks if they got a chance. It's just a shame neither really picked up the after cancellation attention they deserve.
 
2012-07-30 11:46:56 PM
Martin Sheen agreed to join this fast food crew?

The network must have sent over one hell of a hooker gift basket gift basket full of hookers.
 
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