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(Sun Sentinel)   Tougher standards may worsen science teacher shortage. In fact, they may even have to know that Earth, Wind, and Fire are more than just a 70s R&B band   (sun-sentinel.com) divider line 20
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2012-07-29 10:32:44 AM
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i48.tinypic.com
2012-07-29 09:50:26 AM
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24.media.tumblr.com

Obviously they will have to learn water too. Here's your new teacher.
2012-07-29 04:01:29 PM
1 votes:

St_Francis_P: over_and_done: Earth Sciences teacher said, "Earth, Fire, Wind, Water. Good stuff to know.", grinned and winked at the class, and walked out to laughter and applause from most of us.

The physics teacher followed up by turning back to the class and announcing, "Next chapter: alchemical transmutation!"

It's sad, but kids today never even hear about the Philosophical Mercury. What are they teaching them in school, anyway?


Phlogiston theory. It's all the rage now. Where did I put my powdered wig?
/olde
2012-07-29 03:47:50 PM
1 votes:
If they want to pass the test, all they have to do is read the Bible. I heard that the answers are in Genesis. And don't use any left-wing terms like "sea-level rise".
2012-07-29 01:50:44 PM
1 votes:

WhippingBoy: MooseUpNorth: WhippingBoy: So while there will always be a shortage of "good" teachers, there will never be a shortage of "teachers", per se.

Interesting fantasy. Tell you what: Take Praxis II in your content area. http://www.ets.org/praxis/states Not the PLT, you can't attempt it without education credits (let alone pass it), but content area. And I double-dog-dare you to try it with either Math or History. Pass your state's standard on your first try. Then tell me that there will never be a shortage of dumb teachers, per se, because then, you'll have an idea of what you're talking about.

Here's (apparently) a sample question in advanced algebra (Taken from http://www.testprepreview.com/praxis_practice.htm):

8. John is traveling to a meeting that is 28 miles away. He needs to be there in 30 minutes. How fast does he need to go to make it to the meeting on time?

A. 25 mph
B. 37 mph
C. 41 mph
D. 49 mph
E. 56 mph

If you honestly think that this is challenging, then I weep for society.


I don't see how there is an answer on this. None of these speeds include any room for stop lights, and going to starbucks.
2012-07-29 01:20:04 PM
1 votes:

NeoCortex42: I think compensation is the biggest problem, by far. There were few teachers I knew during my time in high school that didn't have to hold down a second job to make a decent income.


theactorsdiet.com

It's not so bad. Los Pollos Hermanos always has job opportunities for chemistry teachers. The pay's good, the only issue is that their non-complete clause is a killer.
2012-07-29 11:53:55 AM
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Submitted First With a Better Headline: If they are teaching the four elements in your science class, maybe you should change districts. I get that subby wanted to make a clever band reference, but c'mon.


CSB / true story time:

In my public high school physics class, our teacher was going over fundamental forces (electroweak, strong nuclear, etc) when the Earth Sciences teacher from a couple rooms over happened to pass through. (This was not rudeness, as all the science classrooms shared and surrounded a small storage/lab area; you had to enter any of the classrooms to get to the middle room.) Most of us seniors had been in this other teacher's class back when we were freshmen, as Earth Science was a required freshman course (think basic chemistry plus things like "weather" and "how to do an experiment following scientific process", stuff like that).

He asked how things were going.

Physics teacher said we were learning "the fundamental forces of the universe".

Earth Sciences teacher said, "Earth, Fire, Wind, Water. Good stuff to know.", grinned and winked at the class, and walked out to laughter and applause from most of us.

The physics teacher followed up by turning back to the class and announcing, "Next chapter: alchemical transmutation!"

It helped that the physics teacher was a man in early/middle age while the other was a much older man.

/looking back, my high school was really good
2012-07-29 11:52:30 AM
1 votes:
My wife just got a teacher's degree specializing in high school science. The stories she has about the pig-ignorance of today's youth make me think they'll all be speaking Mandarin in labour camps in ten years...except there's no chance these dopes could possibly learn a second language, being largely ignorant of their first.
2012-07-29 11:45:51 AM
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SevenizGud: A lot of teachers must be dying, because lord knows teachers don't get fired. Unless you sleep with your students. And he blabs his big fat mouth. Damn you, Jason!

Teaching - the only profession where you can't get fired for outright incompetence.


You must not have ever looked at the membership of Congress at any point during your life.
2012-07-29 10:41:50 AM
1 votes:
I was one of the writers for these tests in Florida - specifically, forSocial Sciences. That includes history, government, economics, psychology, and sociology.

The main question we kept returning to was: "Do we expect a recent college graduate to know this?" In some cases, it eliminated questions because they were too easy and in others, because they were too difficult. Because of the point mentioned above about coaches and social studies, I had a strong interest in making sure the test was a good instrument.

The problem with science is a bit different though. You don't have the problem of random people taking the test because they think it will be easy. You have the problem that, as TFA briefly touched on, the most promising students don't go in to teaching because of the low pay, and now decreasing benefits. There are exceptions, but you can't build a pprofession on the backs of altruists and masochists.

Eventually, we will have to pay more to get more qualified teachers. But since that's not the goal here, it won't happen.

The true goal is, of course, to delegitimize public schools and to replace them with vouchers to reward politocal cronies. But i digress.
2012-07-29 10:32:28 AM
1 votes:

edmo: NASA's been laying off rocket scientists...


I worked with a NASA scientist once...he wanted to 'make a difference' so he decided to teach jr. high math. His difference lasted 6 weeks...he left skid marks in the parking lot.
2012-07-29 09:53:11 AM
1 votes:
3.bp.blogspot.com
2012-07-29 09:28:51 AM
1 votes:
Sounds like somebody has too much yellow bile.
2012-07-29 09:10:41 AM
1 votes:

Dinki: letrole: Bad teachers don't like standardised tests.
This is because their teaching efforts can be quantified and evaluated.

Good teachers do like standardised tests.
This is because their teaching efforts can be quantified and evaluated.

You obviously don't know any teachers.


Did you look at his handle by chance?
2012-07-29 09:04:08 AM
1 votes:
Bad teachers don't like standardised tests.
This is because their teaching efforts can be quantified and evaluated.

Good teachers do like standardised tests.
This is because their teaching efforts can be quantified and evaluated.
2012-07-29 08:35:28 AM
1 votes:
first off, it needs the florida tag.

second, ftfa: "And they don't get at the "larger issues," she added, which is that many college students with talent and interest in science don't pursue teaching careers. Those who do, she said, often find they can earn more at public schools in other states, including neighboring Georgia."

that hurts
2012-07-29 08:34:37 AM
1 votes:
Subby's first chem lab:

upload.wikimedia.org
2012-07-29 08:19:42 AM
1 votes:
Science too hard? Try religion!
2012-07-29 08:11:16 AM
1 votes:
E= cookie. That used to be good enough for somebody.
2012-07-29 07:05:57 AM
1 votes:
I think you may be looking for an alchemist, subby.
 
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