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(io9)   10 things fans should expect from a new Star Trek TV series. Missing from list: skimpily dressed alien chicks or GTFO   (io9.com) divider line 24
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2012-07-29 12:17:24 PM
7 votes:
I think they should do a series that's targeted to the younger demographic, have it set in Starfleet Academy. And all the main characters should be descendants of classic and TNG Trek characters. And they should make it really dark and gritty. Here's a partial rundown of the cast list:

Madison T. Kirk--she's the main character, a brash bisexual, take-charge kind of gal.

T'pol Madison Spock--half-Vulcan, half Orion brainiac sexpot. Also bisexual.

Cody-Connor Crusher--grandson of Wesley and a female Traveler. He can phase time, space, and girls' locker room shower stalls. Sort of bicurious.

Noonianna Britney Khan--nemesis of Madison Kirk (and former jilted girlfriend). She has hacked into Kirk's Spacebook account at least three times, and posted shopped photos of Kirk giving a Pakled a beej. "Revenge is a dish best served cold; it is very cold, in SPAAAAACE...book."

Snarfix--descendant of Neelix and Snarf (from the Thundercats). More of a peripheral character, really. Always manages to fall in a puddle of butterscotch pudding by the end of the show.
2012-07-29 11:56:29 AM
4 votes:
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2012-07-29 11:34:46 AM
4 votes:
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2012-07-29 01:03:42 PM
3 votes:

NeoCortex42: Or just have it be the ship that goes to follow up in the wake of all the cultural damage Kirk causes.


A ship of social workers that goes out to collect, counsel and put up for adoption all of the human-alien hybrids Kirk's fathered.
2012-07-29 11:48:59 AM
3 votes:

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The Internet worries me some times.




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2012-07-29 07:24:12 PM
2 votes:

Sylvia_Bandersnatch: thornhill: How about what we don't want to see:

1) No more "crew members are locked in the holodeck, safeties have been disengaged, and for some reason we can't just cut the power" episodes.

2) No more Borg. Voyager ruined those bad guys.

3) No more time travel. Voyager also ruined that.

4) No more solving every problem with technology (e.g. using the main deflector dish to do x, y and z).

5) No more deus ex machina endings.

Finally, the new show makers need to recognize the importance of casting good actors. TNG holds up so well because they could do a lot of character driven stories due to having a pretty strong cast, most notably Patrick Stewart. Case and point is The Inner Light. It's still pretty cool that TNG had Whoopi Goldberg as a reoccurring guest star -- I can't imagine some of the best episodes, like Best of Both Worlds and I, Borg without her contribution. Similarly, DS9 not only had a solid cast, but the regularly guest stars were excellent, such as Andrew Robinson (Garak), Louise Fletcher, Jeffrey Combs and Marc Alaimo. One of the many places that Voyager went wrong was the terrible cast.

They weren't all bad. Mulgrew is actually good, in the right vehicle; I just don't think this was a good one for her, that's all. And I did like Picardo a lot, as the EMH and other characters (including the real-life guy who created them).


Voyager's biggest mistake was failing to explore Neelix's post-Kes sexuality. But, that's what I have my Neelix erotic fanfic.
2012-07-29 11:59:25 AM
2 votes:

Omis: 11) A holodeck malfunction episode.
12) The Borg.
13) Time Travel.
14) Modifying the deflector dish to get out of a sticky situation.


They should do an episode with Nazis
2012-07-29 11:55:23 AM
2 votes:

Omis: 11) A holodeck malfunction episode.
12) The Borg.
13) Time Travel.
14) Modifying the deflector dish to get out of a sticky situation.


Thanks for stating the obvious, Troi
2012-07-29 09:54:18 AM
2 votes:
1. See if it is possible to write a Season 1 that doesn't suck
2. The reason they went back is because the books have pretty well fleshed out a good chunk of time after 2400. That makes going into the future hard. Either you've got to incorporate all of them, and correctly, or you overwrite everything. Either way you're going to piss off the die-hards that read them. And no, I'm not one of them, but I've read through a synopsis of a few of them and the books seem pretty strange. So good luck with that. Also, the future quickly gets boring. You've got to keep coming up with bigger and bigger enemies and problems because everything else gets solved. ST never really explores the societal effects of technology, so you could probably have fun with that. It just wouldn't be Star Trek really.

FirstNationalBastard: #11:

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2012-07-30 10:21:34 AM
1 votes:

Vaneshi: Mugato: About the money thing, Picard owns a vineyard, for example. Well fark him, I want a vineyard. But there are no more vineyards left. So I can't have one, can I?

Of course you can, which planet in which star system would you like to put your vineyard on Sir? Perhaps you could try the underwater cities on Earth as well for giggles.


And then next thing you know, the Federation sells your colony out and gives it away to the Cardassians.
2012-07-29 08:17:32 PM
1 votes:

FirstNationalBastard: Actual Farking: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: thornhill: How about what we don't want to see:

1) No more "crew members are locked in the holodeck, safeties have been disengaged, and for some reason we can't just cut the power" episodes.

2) No more Borg. Voyager ruined those bad guys.

3) No more time travel. Voyager also ruined that.

4) No more solving every problem with technology (e.g. using the main deflector dish to do x, y and z).

5) No more deus ex machina endings.

Finally, the new show makers need to recognize the importance of casting good actors. TNG holds up so well because they could do a lot of character driven stories due to having a pretty strong cast, most notably Patrick Stewart. Case and point is The Inner Light. It's still pretty cool that TNG had Whoopi Goldberg as a reoccurring guest star -- I can't imagine some of the best episodes, like Best of Both Worlds and I, Borg without her contribution. Similarly, DS9 not only had a solid cast, but the regularly guest stars were excellent, such as Andrew Robinson (Garak), Louise Fletcher, Jeffrey Combs and Marc Alaimo. One of the many places that Voyager went wrong was the terrible cast.

They weren't all bad. Mulgrew is actually good, in the right vehicle; I just don't think this was a good one for her, that's all. And I did like Picardo a lot, as the EMH and other characters (including the real-life guy who created them).

Voyager's biggest mistake was failing to explore Neelix's post-Kes sexuality. But, that's what I have my Neelix erotic fanfic.

Naiomi WIldman's mother essentially disappeared those last few seasons.

Why?

She was trussed up in Neelix's hydroponic garden, being violated by Talaxian carrots, and Neelix's spiney penis.

/it was voluntary, for the most part.


The real reason she disappeared is hilarious, and a great example of all that was wrong with Voyager. The writers thought they had already killed her off and didn't know she was still alive.
2012-07-29 07:53:57 PM
1 votes:
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2012-07-29 07:41:02 PM
1 votes:

Actual Farking: Sylvia_Bandersnatch: thornhill: How about what we don't want to see:

1) No more "crew members are locked in the holodeck, safeties have been disengaged, and for some reason we can't just cut the power" episodes.

2) No more Borg. Voyager ruined those bad guys.

3) No more time travel. Voyager also ruined that.

4) No more solving every problem with technology (e.g. using the main deflector dish to do x, y and z).

5) No more deus ex machina endings.

Finally, the new show makers need to recognize the importance of casting good actors. TNG holds up so well because they could do a lot of character driven stories due to having a pretty strong cast, most notably Patrick Stewart. Case and point is The Inner Light. It's still pretty cool that TNG had Whoopi Goldberg as a reoccurring guest star -- I can't imagine some of the best episodes, like Best of Both Worlds and I, Borg without her contribution. Similarly, DS9 not only had a solid cast, but the regularly guest stars were excellent, such as Andrew Robinson (Garak), Louise Fletcher, Jeffrey Combs and Marc Alaimo. One of the many places that Voyager went wrong was the terrible cast.

They weren't all bad. Mulgrew is actually good, in the right vehicle; I just don't think this was a good one for her, that's all. And I did like Picardo a lot, as the EMH and other characters (including the real-life guy who created them).

Voyager's biggest mistake was failing to explore Neelix's post-Kes sexuality. But, that's what I have my Neelix erotic fanfic.


ಠ_ಠ
2012-07-29 05:23:59 PM
1 votes:
About the money thing, Picard owns a vineyard, for example. Well fark him, I want a vineyard. But there are no more vineyards left. So I can't have one, can I? I surely can't somehow earn enough money to buy his from him. So I'm farked. Wine drinking motherfarker, that's why I set his vineyard on fire and killed his family.

It just never made any sense and it's no use writing papers about it like someone up there said someone did. because the writers didn't put that much thought into it.
2012-07-29 03:40:30 PM
1 votes:

NeoCortex42: Your_Huckleberry: They reminded me of dress uniforms, looked good but probably not very fun to wear in day to day duties. I'd submit the black and grey ones that debutted in First Contact were the best uniforms of the whole franchise.
One think about uniforms always struck me was how Star Trek seemed to have one outfit for everything, or at least limited ones. A duty model and dress, but nothing like fatigues. Compare to the new Battlestar Gallactica or the Stargate series. They had different uniforms for different duties. Granted, Stargate and BSG were flat out military and Star Trek has always kind of tried to be something different. Was Enterprise the only Star Trek series that featured both an extreme hot and extreme cold climate uniform? Picard was the only guy with a jacket on the Enterprise D?
I know, probably more to do with budget requirements in wardrobe.


Best Uniforms:
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Worst Uniforms of the "modern era": a tie between the "skant" and "cruise ship entertainment director"
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I still don't understand how they lost the technology of pockets. Maybe that's why they keep having to study primitive civilizations.
2012-07-29 03:21:45 PM
1 votes:
Also missing from the list, continuity.
2012-07-29 02:04:06 PM
1 votes:
Screw the Abrams time line.

I'd like to see something set in the "real" / TNG expanded universe, maybe something 10-25 years past the end of DS9/Voyager. Time enough for universe/story line changes, close enough for guest stars and being able to use old story lines.
2012-07-29 01:25:30 PM
1 votes:

theorellior: NeoCortex42: Or just have it be the ship that goes to follow up in the wake of all the cultural damage Kirk causes.

A ship of social workers that goes out to collect, counsel and put up for adoption all of the human-alien hybrids Kirk's fathered.


Hell, you could probably fully staff a ship with Kirk's offspring.
2012-07-29 12:20:20 PM
1 votes:
Star Trek was always written by actual Sci-Fi writers.

/They just weren't any good at it.
2012-07-29 12:18:29 PM
1 votes:

awfulperson: I think they should do a series that's targeted to the younger demographic, have it set in Starfleet Academy. And all the main characters should be descendants of classic and TNG Trek characters. And they should make it really dark and gritty. Here's a partial rundown of the cast list:

Madison T. Kirk--she's the main character, a brash bisexual, take-charge kind of gal.

T'pol Madison Spock--half-Vulcan, half Orion brainiac sexpot. Also bisexual.

Cody-Connor Crusher--grandson of Wesley and a female Traveler. He can phase time, space, and girls' locker room shower stalls. Sort of bicurious.

Noonianna Britney Khan--nemesis of Madison Kirk (and former jilted girlfriend). She has hacked into Kirk's Spacebook account at least three times, and posted shopped photos of Kirk giving a Pakled a beej. "Revenge is a dish best served cold; it is very cold, in SPAAAAACE...book."

Snarfix--descendant of Neelix and Snarf (from the Thundercats). More of a peripheral character, really. Always manages to fall in a puddle of butterscotch pudding by the end of the show.


...you live up to your username.
2012-07-29 12:03:03 PM
1 votes:

PsyLord: How about killing a main character every so often.


Like Tasha Yar?
2012-07-29 11:59:44 AM
1 votes:

DarthBart: GAT_00: FirstNationalBastard: The opening scene of The Pegasus, IIRC.

...The TNG Pegasus episode, not the Enterprise Pegasus episode.

I don't remember it at all. Haven't watched TNG for a while though.

That's "Disaster". The ship hits something, jacks everything up, and it's where we discover Troi doesn't know the difference between a warp core and a Mr Coffee.


It was the outfit.

As soon as Captain Jellico made her wear a real uniform the next season, she knew everything about the artificial singularities that powered Romulan ships.
2012-07-29 11:54:15 AM
1 votes:
11) A holodeck malfunction episode.
12) The Borg.
13) Time Travel.
14) Modifying the deflector dish to get out of a sticky situation.
2012-07-29 10:33:01 AM
1 votes:

GAT_00: TOS: 79 episodes


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...about thirty good ones

/Weeellssshhhiiiiieeeee!!!
 
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