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2012-07-29 12:34:05 AM  
Tabernac!
 
2012-07-29 12:34:26 AM  
But french fries and french kisses are still okay, right?

And what about french ticklers?
 
2012-07-29 12:37:34 AM  
Fark the French
 
2012-07-29 12:38:21 AM  
As sick of their own rudeness as they may be, I imagine they'll surrender to their base desires.
 
2012-07-29 12:38:38 AM  
Poutain des français!!

//Ne parlez.
 
2012-07-29 12:39:19 AM  
I visited Paris for 9 days a few years ago. The metro was clean and decently respected by the local riders. They talked quietly and dressed very nicely (compared to Americans). While they could have been snickering about me quite easily, there was at least an apparent presentation of politeness.
 
2012-07-29 12:39:45 AM  
If you travel, you'll come to know the French as the rudest farking assholes on Earth.

/aside from the Israelis
 
2012-07-29 12:40:48 AM  
Why are parts of the olympics in French? Like the fencing judge was speaking French the whole time. Can we expect the boxing referee to be giving instructions in Latin, or the Judo judge to give directions in Occitan?
 
2012-07-29 12:41:37 AM  
They can get in the line with everyone else who hates the French.
 
2012-07-29 12:42:30 AM  

kyleaugustus: While they could have been snickering about me quite easily, there was at least an apparent presentation of politeness.


So it's like being in the South then?
 
2012-07-29 12:42:48 AM  

SevenizGud: Why are parts of the olympics in French? Like the fencing judge was speaking French the whole time. Can we expect the boxing referee to be giving instructions in Latin, or the Judo judge to give directions in Occitan?


English and French (and the host country language) are the official IOC languages. I'm pretty sure that's why. French used to be the international language of science and diplomacy. They are still a little bitter about that.
 
2012-07-29 12:44:59 AM  
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Merde.....
 
2012-07-29 12:45:27 AM  

kyleaugustus: I visited Paris for 9 days a few years ago. The metro was clean and decently respected by the local riders. They talked quietly and dressed very nicely (compared to Americans). While they could have been snickering about me quite easily, there was at least an apparent presentation of politeness.


Pretty much this. I had no problems with rudeness in Paris. Of course, a few "merçis" and "sil vous plaits" goes a long way towards them not thinking that you're an American asshole.
 
2012-07-29 12:45:27 AM  
I think it was the French who restarted the Modern Olympics. (Coubertin).

My dad is French (well, he's Franco-American) but hates the French and changed the spelling of his name to anglicize it.

Me, personally, je les aime. Trés geniales.
 
2012-07-29 12:46:41 AM  
Well stick a loaf of bread up my butt and call me Pierre.

You don't say. . .
 
TKM
2012-07-29 12:49:01 AM  
Kermit on Kermit hate.
 
2012-07-29 12:51:48 AM  
Conversely, I got mugged by the nicest guy in Sao Paulo, Brazil. I wasn't about to get shot for a few Real, so I handed my wallet over.
He saw that I was a foreigner and figured that losing my ID and credit cards would really suck so he just took the cash and handed my wallet back and thanked me.
 
2012-07-29 12:53:43 AM  
Groundskeeper Willie, any thoughts?


Link
 
2012-07-29 12:53:55 AM  
I think people everywhere need to act a little more like humans and less like frightened animals who act out their fear with displays of anger.
 
2012-07-29 12:54:02 AM  

kyleaugustus: I visited Paris for 9 days a few years ago. The metro was clean and decently respected by the local riders. They talked quietly and dressed very nicely (compared to Americans). While they could have been snickering about me quite easily, there was at least an apparent presentation of politeness.


Historical note.
But missing the pint that the entire culture is based upon a general disregard for bravery, cleanliness, and an appointed abandonment of civilization.

They are pigs.
 
2012-07-29 12:54:18 AM  
IF LE SOMEONE TRIES TO BLOCK, SHOW LE THEM THAT YOU ROCK!!
 
2012-07-29 12:54:47 AM  
My grandfather was burying his buddies on Normandy Beach after D-Day while able-bodied French males sat on the Champs-Élysées doing nothing to gain their own freedom. De Gaulle then kicked NATO out of France while still leaving the door open to begging the US for nuclear protection.

Fark them.
 
2012-07-29 12:55:05 AM  

kyleaugustus: I visited Paris for 9 days a few years ago. The metro was clean and decently respected by the local riders. They talked quietly and dressed very nicely (compared to Americans). While they could have been snickering about me quite easily, there was at least an apparent presentation of politeness.


Sounds fairly similar to my experience um... about a decade ago? (That long? Yikes. It was a high school French class trip, anyway.) While there were some questionable metro stations in terms of cleanliness, I don't remember any apparent rudeness on the part of the Parisians I encountered. Attempting to speak the language and being generally polite goes a long way. It also helps to remember that Paris is a big city and, like New Yorkers, Parisians are apt to be hurried and stressed. The shaky world economy can't be helping matters.

That said, this article may only apply to Parisians. Things are a little more relaxed in the provinces. Well, Brittany and Normandy, at least. But they probably know how to take it easy in the south of France, too...
 
2012-07-29 12:56:52 AM  

whatshisname: If you travel, you'll come to know the French as the rudest farking assholes on Earth.

/aside from the Israelis


And the Germans. German tourists are just flat out nasty to people when they travel. Ex-girlfriend of mine went to Bali for a year as part of her job, the Hotel company she worked for sent her there and when she came back she regaled me with the attitudes she'd seen. The Germans were by far the worst I guess. She didn't mention the French, but Americans were just about as rude to people as the Germans, at least to the staff.
 
2012-07-29 12:57:48 AM  

bidness: English and French (and the host country language) are the official IOC languages.


I understand that's why the medal ceremonies are conducted in English and French. But the fencing judge wasn't speaking ANY English as far as I could tell. He was given direction in French only.

And secondly, why is French still an official IOC language? It worlwide fluent usage is 14th among languages. Are they still going to be conducting medals ceremonies in French in 2112, when the French fluency is 5k-8k people worldwide? Surely these things are reviewed from time to time.
 
2012-07-29 12:58:45 AM  

R.A.Danny: Conversely, I got mugged by the nicest guy in Sao Paulo, Brazil. I wasn't about to get shot for a few Real, so I handed my wallet over.
He saw that I was a foreigner and figured that losing my ID and credit cards would really suck so he just took the cash and handed my wallet back and thanked me.


To bad all armed robbers weren't that thoughtful, the worst part about getting robbed isn't the 40 bucks in your wallet, it's the credit cards, ID and the wallet that took you two years to get broken in so it conforms comfortably to your ass.
 
2012-07-29 12:58:47 AM  
Ehhh France was fine while we were over there, except one French restaurant manager who looked eerily like the waiter from Ferris buellers day off.
 
2012-07-29 12:59:00 AM  

GWSuperfan: kyleaugustus: I visited Paris for 9 days a few years ago. The metro was clean and decently respected by the local riders. They talked quietly and dressed very nicely (compared to Americans). While they could have been snickering about me quite easily, there was at least an apparent presentation of politeness.

Pretty much this. I had no problems with rudeness in Paris. Of course, a few "merçis" and "sil vous plaits" goes a long way towards them not thinking that you're an American asshole.


I have a Paris trip coming up and everything I've read has said to at least try to speak the language and things will go a lot smoother. So I've learned some things, though I wonder how they'll react if I have to bring out my cellphone so I can use Google Translate.
 
2012-07-29 01:02:35 AM  
Who have they been snubbing lately?
 
2012-07-29 01:02:48 AM  

Smeggy Smurf: Fark the French


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2012-07-29 01:05:31 AM  

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2012-07-29 01:06:27 AM  
I've been to Monte Carlo and I don't know if that counts but the people were very nice. I took French for 8 years and was too afraid to try to speak the language because I didn't want to say anything wrong. But fark paying $30 just to walk into the casino. I drank my beer and had a nice lunch and saw a boat that looked like something out of a James Bond movie.
 
2012-07-29 01:08:55 AM  
Cool, glad they're not gonna be rude any more. Slap some deodorant on & they'll be right up there with Canadians in no time.
 
2012-07-29 01:09:13 AM  

Mrtraveler01: kyleaugustus: While they could have been snickering about me quite easily, there was at least an apparent presentation of politeness.

So it's like being in the South then?


haha....made me chuckle.

Southerners are great at superficial politeness.
 
2012-07-29 01:11:01 AM  
Been to Paris twice and driven throughout France and oddly enough did not experience the stereotypical rudeness. I did make half an attempt to speak with natives in French, or what I could muster from high school French classes.

I say the French are great.

/Still. Texas is larger than France
 
2012-07-29 01:11:27 AM  

Parallax: Cool, glad they're not gonna be rude any more. Slap some deodorant on & they'll be right up there with Canadians in no time.


Canadians don't back away from a fight. Not sure if that itself is rude but it knocks the French out of comparison with our buds from the Great White North.
 
2012-07-29 01:11:41 AM  
Parisians don't hate you. They hate everyone. They hate themselves.

That said...

Make a good-faith effort to speak their language and the French will do everything in their power to make you and themselves understood. My wife and I spent a full 20 minutes with a cafe owner and his chalkboard full of French culinary terms we had never seen -- he was gracious and we were thrilled with the results.

Bottom line: Imagine a Frenchman landed in your town assuming everyone spoke French.

Yeah... you'd tell him to fark off, too.
 
2012-07-29 01:12:29 AM  
Pretty sure rudeness is like genetic for the French. They can try to cover it up all they want, but it's not like everyone else won't see them for what they are. And if not, well, I guess there have been worse French mistakes.
 
2012-07-29 01:13:26 AM  
I visited Nice while on a cruise. Didn't have a chance to see much, so didn't have many chances to interact with the locals.

On a related note, I went to Quebec years ago and initially, when someone would talk to me in French, they'd roll their eyes at me in disgust and talk in English.

Then I found that if I started talking to them with my version of a "Southern" accent, they'd happily treat me as a tourist and be friendly.

I'd think a society based on french fries covered in cheese curds and gravy would be more advanced.
 
2012-07-29 01:15:23 AM  

Deathfrogg: whatshisname: If you travel, you'll come to know the French as the rudest farking assholes on Earth.

/aside from the Israelis

And the Germans. German tourists are just flat out nasty to people when they travel. Ex-girlfriend of mine went to Bali for a year as part of her job, the Hotel company she worked for sent her there and when she came back she regaled me with the attitudes she'd seen. The Germans were by far the worst I guess. She didn't mention the French, but Americans were just about as rude to people as the Germans, at least to the staff.


I've got a theory: German's go over seas and find that the RoW is pretty much in a perpetual state of chaos compared to how things are back home, and pretty much turn into a 240lbs autistic kid than can't make sense of the world. This would explain why they are generally friendly, helpful and full of smiles & sunshine back at home and are perplexed and angry abroad.

The French are a mixed bag. I remember being in Nice and with the little French I know I picked up on one guy saying goodbye to a mate of his and basically calling him a Parisian arsehole (as you can do with good friends). Parisians are pretty much New Yorkers with a baggette - the rest of the country is much friendlier. Especially overseas.

And speaking a little French goes a long way too. I was in a restaurant in Toulouse and butchered my way through ordering a meal and got great service. A collegue turned up, spoke only english, was fairly disrespectful and pretty much got the level of service he deserved.
 
2012-07-29 01:15:33 AM  
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2012-07-29 01:15:43 AM  

apachevoyeur: Been to Paris twice and driven throughout France and oddly enough did not experience the stereotypical rudeness. I did make half an attempt to speak with natives in French, or what I could muster from high school French classes.

I say the French are great.

/Still. Texas is larger than France


Indeed. In fact, if you go to Normandy, they still remember the American Sacrifice. I was there on 9/11 and watched a cathedral fill to standing room only a couple of days later ... filled with Frenchman in tears for American dead. It was astounding. Their planes patrolled and secured our skies for months so we could take the battle to the enemy.

Still we managed to fretter away that good will away with "freedom fries". Pisses me off to this day.
 
2012-07-29 01:16:05 AM  

skinink: GWSuperfan: kyleaugustus: I visited Paris for 9 days a few years ago. The metro was clean and decently respected by the local riders. They talked quietly and dressed very nicely (compared to Americans). While they could have been snickering about me quite easily, there was at least an apparent presentation of politeness.

Pretty much this. I had no problems with rudeness in Paris. Of course, a few "merçis" and "sil vous plaits" goes a long way towards them not thinking that you're an American asshole.

I have a Paris trip coming up and everything I've read has said to at least try to speak the language and things will go a lot smoother. So I've learned some things, though I wonder how they'll react if I have to bring out my cellphone so I can use Google Translate.


Try to speak the language, quite a few know English but do not want to be embarrassed by their accent, its weird but it works. I can barely mumble a few phrases but got us by and except for one person they could understand enough to help a moron like us who go to foreign lands without speaking the language.

I am learning French now just so we wont be lost when we go back, it sounds better to speak than any other language.
 
2012-07-29 01:20:04 AM  
Expected a lot of grief the first time I went to France.

Didn't encounter any, anywhere I went. Pretty cool country, actually.

Charles De Gaulle airport can go fark itself though...
 
2012-07-29 01:22:07 AM  

sinanju: apachevoyeur: Been to Paris twice and driven throughout France and oddly enough did not experience the stereotypical rudeness. I did make half an attempt to speak with natives in French, or what I could muster from high school French classes.

I say the French are great.

/Still. Texas is larger than France

Indeed. In fact, if you go to Normandy, they still remember the American Sacrifice. I was there on 9/11 and watched a cathedral fill to standing room only a couple of days later ... filled with Frenchman in tears for American dead. It was astounding. Their planes patrolled and secured our skies for months so we could take the battle to the enemy.

Still we managed to fretter away that good will away with "freedom fries". Pisses me off to this day.


No we didn't, spoke at length with an older man while his wife showed my GF scarves and gloves, they understand we have no more control over our politicians than they have over theirs. Stupidity and politics is in the same in every language.
 
2012-07-29 01:29:12 AM  

lisarenee3505: WTF does "RoW' even mean?


Rest of the World.

It's pretty common in discussions of international things.
 
2012-07-29 01:30:54 AM  

GWSuperfan: kyleaugustus: I visited Paris for 9 days a few years ago. The metro was clean and decently respected by the local riders. They talked quietly and dressed very nicely (compared to Americans). While they could have been snickering about me quite easily, there was at least an apparent presentation of politeness.

Pretty much this. I had no problems with rudeness in Paris. Of course, a few "merçis" and "sil vous plaits" goes a long way towards them not thinking that you're an American asshole.


That's pretty much the way it is anywhere. Be polite. If you're hopeless, a little self-deprecating humor or an attempt at not mangling the local language works.
There's a couple universal symbols of 'help me, I'm ignorant' like a goofy face or a fake bullet to the temple hand gesture. Hanging your head in failure helps.
Smile a bunch and folks think you're crazy. Or nice, or both.
Ask someone to pronounce, try your best to imitate. If you're not there to learn and grow, why travel?

Yes, I'm the one people always ask for help. I smile and make eye contact.
Which usually makes the dangerous ones think twice about farking with you. Who smiles at strangers in the city?

And yes. The French are the rudest fuquers anywhere.
Kyoto, Japan? French tourist.
Edinburgh, Glasgow, anywhere
Scotland? French tourists.
DC? French tourists.
Antarctica? Penguins. Then the French.

/the French Penguins were the worst
 
2012-07-29 01:31:38 AM  

Marine1: My grandfather was burying his buddies on Normandy Beach after D-Day while able-bodied French males sat on the Champs-Élysées doing nothing to gain their own freedom. De Gaulle then kicked NATO out of France while still leaving the door open to begging the US for nuclear protection.

Fark them.


This is why my dad, who is himself of French descent, hates the French and a hundred other reasons dating to World War II.

Although he says the French country people were extremely nice, given the bizarre and difficult circumstances of having to live with GI's in their houses while being shelled by Germans.
 
2012-07-29 01:32:55 AM  

sinanju:

Still we managed to fretter away that good will away with "freedom fries". Pisses me off to this day.


...Because the French were honorable? No. The rift began when the French were getting paid (off) by Saddam. They sold their honor... again.

/ Dien Bien Phu epitomizes French decision making.
Link
 
2012-07-29 01:33:37 AM  

marcre3363: I visited Nice while on a cruise. Didn't have a chance to see much, so didn't have many chances to interact with the locals.

On a related note, I went to Quebec years ago and initially, when someone would talk to me in French, they'd roll their eyes at me in disgust and talk in English.

Then I found that if I started talking to them with my version of a "Southern" accent, they'd happily treat me as a tourist and be friendly.

I'd think a society based on french fries covered in cheese curds and gravy would be more advanced.


It all depends whether they're more pissed off at Canadians or Americans at the time.
It's up to you to figure it out.
 
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