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2012-07-28 06:59:39 AM  
Amish Sauerkraut Surprise Custard Pie Link

/Has nothing to do with the story, I'm just hungry.
 
2012-07-28 07:03:27 AM  
when i lived in a amish area they always had black chrysler cars and trucks.always. and if they sold something like wooden kids swing sets and play equipment or antique car and tractor parts they usually didn't advertise but had the stuff stored away in barns. nice people but they would always ask how you heard about them and if you worked for the government. don't get me started about the amish puppy mills. you will always find a few people who are pieces of shiate.
 
2012-07-28 07:04:30 AM  
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They are a group that tends to larger than average families.
They aren't in a situation where many in those families starve, die of disease, etc.
 
2012-07-28 07:07:59 AM  
Watched some of "Out of Order" on the Documentary Channel. Interesting peek into the lives of some ex-Amish.
 
2012-07-28 07:13:05 AM  
Wouldn't they all be inbred, mating with each other in a closed system? Like the Royal Family?
 
2012-07-28 07:18:42 AM  

Mugato: Wouldn't they all be inbred, mating with each other in a closed system? Like the Royal Family?


They don't marry their siblings, so no, that doesn't even make sense.
 
2012-07-28 07:22:24 AM  
The family size thing is the same around here. 10 children pushed out the cooter to fuel the next religious army is common. Some families have 15 or more. Their vaginas must look like the front door to a pole barn.
 
2012-07-28 07:23:20 AM  
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2012-07-28 07:23:56 AM  

Kiwimann: They don't marry their siblings, so no, that doesn't even make sense.


Yeah but they're a limited number of people in isolated societies. It's right here.
 
2012-07-28 07:28:05 AM  

Mugato: Wouldn't they all be inbred, mating with each other in a closed system? Like the Royal Family?


There are a few inherited diseases as there were only a few hundred founders, but at about a quarter-million population now it just makes things easier for genetics researchers. Also prevents inheriting diseases not already in the gene pool. They realize marrying Amish from far-away communities helps.
 
2012-07-28 07:38:46 AM  

starlost: when i lived in a amish area they always had black chrysler cars and trucks.always. and if they sold something like wooden kids swing sets and play equipment or antique car and tractor parts they usually didn't advertise but had the stuff stored away in barns. nice people but they would always ask how you heard about them and if you worked for the government. don't get me started about the amish puppy mills. you will always find a few people who are pieces of shiate.


Might have been Menonites if they drove.
 
2012-07-28 07:47:14 AM  
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we don't have a cow. we have a bull.
 
2012-07-28 07:59:35 AM  
Came here looking for pics of hot Amish women flaunting their bodies with their scandalous clothing. Leaving disappointed...
 
2012-07-28 08:19:53 AM  
They make a great fried chicken dinner and awesome peanut butter, but other than that i farking hate the Amish.
 
2012-07-28 08:26:56 AM  

StrikitRich: starlost: when i lived in a amish area they always had black chrysler cars and trucks.always. and if they sold something like wooden kids swing sets and play equipment or antique car and tractor parts they usually didn't advertise but had the stuff stored away in barns. nice people but they would always ask how you heard about them and if you worked for the government. don't get me started about the amish puppy mills. you will always find a few people who are pieces of shiate.

Might have been Menonites if they drove.


Yes they would be. Funny thing I've noticed about Mennonites is that they are the most aggressive drivers I've ever encountered. Other than being terrors on the road, they make excellent neighbors.
 
2012-07-28 08:27:46 AM  

ComaToast: Came here looking for pics of hot Amish women flaunting their bodies with their scandalous clothing. Leaving disappointed...


Here's some hot Amish chicks frolicking on the beach, showing some ankle...

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/yeah, like they're gonna be reading this
 
2012-07-28 08:38:20 AM  
I hear they're good at bowling, so there's that.
 
2012-07-28 08:47:48 AM  
They made Skully swoon...
 
2012-07-28 08:59:01 AM  

Mugato: Wouldn't they all be inbred, mating with each other in a closed system? Like the Royal Family?


Actually, they are. In fact, the problem with inbreeding is getting so bad that certain genetic conditions are afflicting the population that are almost never found outside the Amish and Mennonite communities such as dwarfism and Cohen's Syndrome.
 
2012-07-28 09:02:48 AM  
I have a friend who is a social worker in PA she tells me of the horror stories of child abuse and spousal abuse among the Amish. They are nice neighbors but they aren't to the women and children.
 
2012-07-28 09:22:23 AM  
"I am shocked, shocked to find farking going on in this country store!"
"Here is your woman, sir."
"Oh thank you. Now everybody out!"
 
2012-07-28 09:35:01 AM  
alice_600:
I have a friend who is a social worker in PA she tells me of the horror stories of child abuse and spousal abuse among the Amish. They are nice neighbors but they aren't to the women and children.

I doubt this is universal; the Amish are not the Taliban. One problem I've herd of is that abuse victims are expected to forgive (in the Christian sense) their abusers... who are sanctioned by the community, but just go on to abuse them or someone else again. That doesn't make the Amish terrible people though... it makes them human beings who have constructed a typically flawed society.
 
2012-07-28 09:51:13 AM  
Grew up around them in western PA. My buddy and I would take them rabbit hunting with us. They were better dogs than our beagles. True story. They had their weirdness, but it was easy to overlook when they kept kickin up bunnies.
 
2012-07-28 09:59:45 AM  
The Amish were certainly right about not becoming too dependent on a farked up flaky system like capitalism.
 
2012-07-28 10:10:15 AM  
Serious question. Do they avail themselves of modern medicine? If not, wouldn't that mean a high infant mortality rate?
 
2012-07-28 10:25:47 AM  

ashinmytomatoes: Serious question. Do they avail themselves of modern medicine? If not, wouldn't that mean a high infant mortality rate?


Check Mugato's link above.
 
2012-07-28 10:35:22 AM  

StrikitRich: starlost: when i lived in a amish area they always had black chrysler cars and trucks.always. and if they sold something like wooden kids swing sets and play equipment or antique car and tractor parts they usually didn't advertise but had the stuff stored away in barns. nice people but they would always ask how you heard about them and if you worked for the government. don't get me started about the amish puppy mills. you will always find a few people who are pieces of shiate.

Might have been Menonites if they drove.


May have been New Order Amish. To be frank that group isn't really Amish. They don't want to admit it, but they aren't.
 
2012-07-28 10:39:57 AM  

No Such Agency: alice_600:
I have a friend who is a social worker in PA she tells me of the horror stories of child abuse and spousal abuse among the Amish. They are nice neighbors but they aren't to the women and children.

I doubt this is universal; the Amish are not the Taliban. One problem I've herd of is that abuse victims are expected to forgive (in the Christian sense) their abusers... who are sanctioned by the community, but just go on to abuse them or someone else again. That doesn't make the Amish terrible people though... it makes them human beings who have constructed a typically flawed society.


It's not universal, but among the Old Order it pretty much is.
 
2012-07-28 10:56:17 AM  
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2012-07-28 11:32:48 AM  

alice_600: I have a friend who is a social worker in PA she tells me of the horror stories of child abuse and spousal abuse among the Amish. They are nice neighbors but they aren't to the women and children.


There are plenty of horror stories, as demonstrated by the articles on this website, in our own society.

Saying they aren't nice to their women and children is a pretty sweeping generalization to apply to all Amish, just based on stories from your friend, whose main personal experience, due to her job, is with abusers and the abused from specific families and communities, rather than the whole.
 
2012-07-28 11:52:42 AM  

alice_600: I have a friend who is a social worker in PA she tells me of the horror stories of child abuse and spousal abuse among the Amish. They are nice neighbors but they aren't to the women and children.


That's unlikely to be universal. When you get into the sort of Amish "sacred texts" there are two interesting things most outsiders don't know: marriage is supposed to be a partnership between the spouses (even though the wife is supposed to be obedient) and once they're married, they're supposed to shag like rabbits.

The thing is that the Amish have no single central faith; each church is its own unit with its own elders. Some are harsh and some are kind. Some are strict and some are becoming increasingly worldly, to the point that its hard to see some of them as being truly "Amish".

I've only had limited dealings with them, but I've found them to be hardworking and honest, if insular. Yes, they make the kids work, but I've never run across an unhappy Amish kid.

/I live in Philly; Lancaster is 90 minutes west of us
//Used to work in the Reading Terminal Market, which has a large Amish (really Amish, not Memonities dressed up) section on the weekends.
 
2012-07-28 12:25:25 PM  

SharkTrager: StrikitRich: starlost: when i lived in a amish area they always had black chrysler cars and trucks.always. and if they sold something like wooden kids swing sets and play equipment or antique car and tractor parts they usually didn't advertise but had the stuff stored away in barns. nice people but they would always ask how you heard about them and if you worked for the government. don't get me started about the amish puppy mills. you will always find a few people who are pieces of shiate.

Might have been Menonites if they drove.

May have been New Order Amish. To be frank that group isn't really Amish. They don't want to admit it, but they aren't.


I bet New Order Amish have a lot of Blue Mondays.
 
2012-07-28 12:29:42 PM  

RexTalionis: Mugato: Wouldn't they all be inbred, mating with each other in a closed system? Like the Royal Family?

Actually, they are. In fact, the problem with inbreeding is getting so bad that certain genetic conditions are afflicting the population that are almost never found outside the Amish and Mennonite communities such as dwarfism and Cohen's Syndrome.


An irresistible urge to cover "Hallelujah?"
 
2012-07-28 12:50:55 PM  
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2012-07-28 01:25:20 PM  
I'd be willing to help with the inbreeding problem.
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2012-07-28 02:08:58 PM  

ashinmytomatoes: Serious question. Do they avail themselves of modern medicine? If not, wouldn't that mean a high infant mortality rate?


Yes, they do. In fact there are several clinics dedicated to research and treatment of certain genetic syndromes that are common among the Amish (due to low genetic diversity). Maple Syrup Urine Disease is one.

The Amish are another group that could not survive as they do now on their own - they are dependent on the outside secular society for all kinds of modern things, just as many other extreme religious groups are. They don't let their children attain any sort of higher education (if they do, they're out of the group) which means that in 2012, they're utterly reliant on others.
 
2012-07-28 02:18:25 PM  

SpaceBison: I'd be willing to help with the inbreeding problem.
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She a Hutterite. While they are Anabaptists like the Amish and Mennonites, Hutterites live in colonies (communal living), whereas the Amish and Mennonites do not.
 
2012-07-28 02:23:27 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: SpaceBison: I'd be willing to help with the inbreeding problem.
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She a Hutterite. While they are Anabaptists like the Amish and Mennonites, Hutterites live in colonies (communal living), whereas the Amish and Mennonites do not.


I don't trust Hutterites.

Their leader looks rather skeevy.

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2012-07-28 02:24:52 PM  

FirstNationalBastard: Bathia_Mapes: SpaceBison: I'd be willing to help with the inbreeding problem.
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She a Hutterite. While they are Anabaptists like the Amish and Mennonites, Hutterites live in colonies (communal living), whereas the Amish and Mennonites do not.

I don't trust Hutterites.

Their leader looks rather skeevy.

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Heh!
 
2012-07-28 03:13:07 PM  

No Such Agency: alice_600:
I have a friend who is a social worker in PA she tells me of the horror stories of child abuse and spousal abuse among the Amish. They are nice neighbors but they aren't to the women and children.

I doubt this is universal; the Amish are not the Taliban. One problem I've herd of is that abuse victims are expected to forgive (in the Christian sense) their abusers... who are sanctioned by the community, but just go on to abuse them or someone else again. That doesn't make the Amish terrible people though... it makes them human beings who have constructed a typically flawed society.


Still for the victims it's about as bad as the Taliban.
 
2012-07-28 04:34:12 PM  

itazurakko: The Amish are another group that could not survive as they do now on their own - they are dependent on the outside secular society for all kinds of modern things, just as many other extreme religious groups are. They don't let their children attain any sort of higher education (if they do, they're out of the group) which means that in 2012, they're utterly reliant on others.


What makes you say this? Sure the inbred kids with genetic disorders would die short, brutish lives, but how is the whole community dependent on modern society?
 
2012-07-28 05:13:01 PM  

LiberalEastCoastElitist: itazurakko: The Amish are another group that could not survive as they do now on their own - they are dependent on the outside secular society for all kinds of modern things, just as many other extreme religious groups are. They don't let their children attain any sort of higher education (if they do, they're out of the group) which means that in 2012, they're utterly reliant on others.

What makes you say this? Sure the inbred kids with genetic disorders would die short, brutish lives, but how is the whole community dependent on modern society?


They refuse to allow their kids to have any sort of higher education. That means by necessity they are dependent on the outside society for medical care (which they make extensive use of), legal services (ditto), and various kinds of technology.

Back in the 1700's when the rest of the world didn't have much education either, they weren't so different. Now they are. Think of it this way - if the entire county were made up of nothing but Amish people, there are a lot of services they would simply not have. No one would be there to do the research that is saving those kids, and no one would be there to drive them across multiple states, or build the cellphones that they do in fact use.

This isn't unique to the Amish, either - I'll say the same thing about any group that purposely limits their children's educations (or secular educations, even if they push full time religious studies 24/7).
 
2012-07-28 05:14:52 PM  

itazurakko: county


Er, country.

Another interesting question in the same vein is what would life in Israel be like if everyone was strict ultra-Orthodox? No secular education past age 13 tends to limit people, not to mention the whole who runs the power plants on Saturday thing.
 
2012-07-28 06:05:37 PM  

Kiwimann: Mugato: Wouldn't they all be inbred, mating with each other in a closed system? Like the Royal Family?

They don't marry their siblings, so no, that doesn't even make sense.


There's a certain amount of inbreeding but it takes eight to nine generations of marrying first and second cousins to cause serious genetic problems, except in cases of incest, which is probably quite rare in tight-knit highly religious communities. All the same, certain genetic maladies are more common among the Amish and other religious groups such as the Hutterites and Jews from certain places in Eastern Europe.

This makes Amish families useful for genetic research because they are closely related and have well-known genealogies.
 
2012-07-28 06:19:47 PM  
On the plus side, their carbon footprint is low.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/04/080428120658.htm

The average American is down to about 19 tonnes a year.

The average homeless person in the US is about 8.5 (which is only a bit lower than a middle class Frenh or German person living la belle vie).

The world average is between 4 and 5 tonnes (probably a bit closer to five now that the Chinese are living larger).

The biggest component of Amish carbon footprints is likely due to dairy farming and the raising of lifestock for meat. So a good guesstimate would probably be 10 tonnes per capita plus or minus two.

Mind you, living like a New York (tiny apartment, no car) would be just as good for people who don't travel a lot by air.
 
2012-07-29 10:43:28 PM  

SharkTrager: StrikitRich: starlost: when i lived in a amish area they always had black chrysler cars and trucks.always. and if they sold something like wooden kids swing sets and play equipment or antique car and tractor parts they usually didn't advertise but had the stuff stored away in barns. nice people but they would always ask how you heard about them and if you worked for the government. don't get me started about the amish puppy mills. you will always find a few people who are pieces of shiate.

Might have been Menonites if they drove.

May have been New Order Amish. To be frank that group isn't really Amish. They don't want to admit it, but they aren't.


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To be truthful, the synths were hard to play without electricity, those crazy infidels found.
 
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