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(Arizona Star)   None of the forty-nine dismembered bodies found on a Mexican highway leading to the Texas border have been identified two months later   (azstarnet.com) divider line 87
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2012-07-27 08:28:11 PM
The 49 bodies appear headed for an increasingly common fate in this drug war-wracked country: They could join the growing ranks of the unidentified dead.

That group has become legion as nearly 16,000 bodies remain unidentified, says the National Human Rights Commission, an independent government agency. In total, 24,000 people have been reported missing. Many say the country's police are simply overwhelmed by the number of drug war casualties as they struggle with poor forensic capabilities and the reluctance of some witnesses and victims' relatives to help.


Well, you kill everyone and there is no one left to keep up with record keeping.
 
2012-07-27 08:44:21 PM
Is this not a repeat from 2 weeks ago or last month or the month before that?

I don't care how much you like pot, boycott Mexican brick weed!
 
2012-07-27 08:51:36 PM

Nadie_AZ: The 49 bodies appear headed for an increasingly common fate in this drug war-wracked country: They could join the growing ranks of the unidentified dead.

That group has become legion as nearly 16,000 bodies remain unidentified, says the National Human Rights Commission, an independent government agency. In total, 24,000 people have been reported missing. Many say the country's police are simply overwhelmed by the number of drug war casualties as they struggle with poor forensic capabilities and the reluctance of some witnesses and victims' relatives to help.

Well, you kill everyone and there is no one left to keep up with record keeping.


If enough die, no more immigrants. Problem solved!
 
2012-07-27 09:00:47 PM
Is this in addition to the 49 dismembered bodies found back in mid-May, 2012?
 
2012-07-27 09:05:46 PM
On the border subby? Check again.

Bathia_Mapes: Is this in addition to the 49 dismembered bodies found back in mid-May, 2012?


Seems to be an update on the case.
 
2012-07-27 09:17:34 PM

James!: On the border subby? Check again.

Bathia_Mapes: Is this in addition to the 49 dismembered bodies found back in mid-May, 2012?

Seems to be an update on the case.


Ah, thanks. I was busy and hadn't read the article.
 
2012-07-27 09:18:12 PM

Bathia_Mapes: James!: On the border subby? Check again.

Bathia_Mapes: Is this in addition to the 49 dismembered bodies found back in mid-May, 2012?

Seems to be an update on the case.

Ah, thanks. I was busy and hadn't read the article.


No prob, B.
 
2012-07-27 09:38:36 PM

Happy Hours: Is this not a repeat from 2 weeks ago or last month or the month before that?

I don't care how much you like pot, boycott Mexican brick weed!


Boot bud is not smokable pot. Hell, I smoke it once a year and even I know better. Blame the US for this. If they quit cracking down on the growers and legal dispensaries there would be no market for that shwag.
 
2012-07-27 10:44:32 PM
They can't help it

/they're shorthanded
 
2012-07-27 11:00:18 PM
Is there some sort of rush?
 
2012-07-27 11:30:24 PM
This is what completely unregulated capitalism looks like.

Cartels. Price fixing. Liquidations in a very real sense.

And then there's the drug trade...
 
2012-07-27 11:38:13 PM

feckingmorons: Is there some sort of rush?


They may have families that love and missed them. Their suffering needs to be over as quickly so they can heal.
 
2012-07-28 12:04:59 AM
mimg.ugo.com
 
2012-07-28 12:06:55 AM

Marcus Aurelius: This is what completely unregulated capitalism looks like.

Cartels. Price fixing. Liquidations in a very real sense.

And then there's the drug trade...


Unregulated? This is what capitalism in an an environment of ABSOLUTE regulation looks like. If it weren't for "the war on drugs" this crap wouldnt be happening.

I understand your point, but this is the OPPOSITE of deregulation. its the government saying your product cant be sold.
 
2012-07-28 12:08:39 AM
If the government simply mandated that all citizens, legal or otherwise, receive identification tattoos, this wouldn't even be an issue.

A small, inconspicuous mark on the torso, arms, legs, and neck would make the identification of these bodies infinitely more easy. Nothing garish, just a 12 digit number (or however many digits you'd need to encompass their populace) tastefully placed.

In addition to helping the police with their daunting task, it would be a wonderful way to have an inter-departmental synergy between Mexico and the United States. Just think how much easier it would be to account for those travelers who haven't yet registered with America! It could also speed along the process of attaining legal residence, the possibilities are endless!
 
2012-07-28 12:10:46 AM

Happy Hours: I don't care how much you like pot, boycott Mexican brick weed!


If you like pot that much, you shouldn't need to be told to not smoke brick.

/why even bother, if you're not in high school anymore?
 
2012-07-28 12:11:12 AM
jose doe
 
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2012-07-28 12:13:10 AM

Abox: [mimg.ugo.com image 480x360]


I was just going to say, "That reminds me, I'm a week behind on Breaking Bad"
 
2012-07-28 12:13:53 AM

MorningBreath: jose doe


That's a square dance call
 
2012-07-28 12:14:33 AM

Darth_Lukecash: feckingmorons: Is there some sort of rush?

They may have families that love and missed them. Their suffering needs to be over as quickly so they can heal.


There was this thing that happened in 1849 called "The Gold Rush" and it didn't have anything to do with a Canadian Prog-rock band selling 500,000 copies of an album.
 
2012-07-28 12:15:47 AM
I'm going to call this one over here Jose, then, if that's alright with everyone.
 
2012-07-28 12:15:59 AM
soooooooooooooooo.......do they chop your feet and hands off before they chop your head off? cause that would kind of suck
 
2012-07-28 12:17:51 AM
It's too bad none of them was me. I've been having migraine aura for hours now thanks to a long loud flashing thunderstorm.
 
2012-07-28 12:19:14 AM
no surprise here. its really hard to ID them, since all mexicans look the same.
 
2012-07-28 12:22:09 AM
I just saw a picture of a victim of a cartel. The person had been decapitated, their head skinned, arms cut off and placed beside the head, with their cock and balls in their hands.

Do not go searching for Mexican drug cartel gore, you'll never be the same.
 
2012-07-28 12:23:28 AM
croesius:

A small, inconspicuous mark on the torso, arms, legs, and neck would make the identification of these bodies infinitely more easy. Nothing garish, just a 12 digit number (or however many digits you'd need to encompass their populace) tastefully placed.

I suggest the Social Security Number in the USA: it's only 9 digits and each person only gets one.

Or maybe "How's my behavior? Call 1-800-EAT-7448."
 
2012-07-28 12:23:34 AM

Happy Hours: Is this not a repeat from 2 weeks ago or last month or the month before that?

I don't care how much you like pot, boycott Mexican brick weed!


THIS!!!!
 
2012-07-28 12:25:46 AM
Take pictures and post them on a website asking for information.
Then bury them with a number.

Either someone knows them or someone doesn't, but don't stop the process from burying the poor souls.
 
2012-07-28 12:26:30 AM
who cares. there are enough mexicans to last us a life time.

yes to mexican brick weed.
 
2012-07-28 12:26:33 AM

The One True TheDavid: croesius:

A small, inconspicuous mark on the torso, arms, legs, and neck would make the identification of these bodies infinitely more easy. Nothing garish, just a 12 digit number (or however many digits you'd need to encompass their populace) tastefully placed.

I suggest the Social Security Number in the USA: it's only 9 digits and each person only gets one.

Or maybe "How's my behavior? Call 1-800-EAT-7448."


Brilliant! Although our president himself illustrated how easy it is to get a new one. I suggest a new number, given (with total unbiased equality) by a new department. Someone to oversee the HSA, DEA, TSA, FBI, and BIE, someone who has the impetus and power to really get things done!
 
2012-07-28 12:27:53 AM

consider this: I just saw a picture of a victim of a cartel. The person had been decapitated, their head skinned, arms cut off and placed beside the head, with their cock and balls in their hands.



So with all that going on the dude still managed to squeeze in a fap.
 
2012-07-28 12:28:14 AM

MorningBreath: jose doe


I was gonna go with Juan doe
 
2012-07-28 12:28:26 AM
"The One True TheDavid: croesius:

A small, inconspicuous mark on the torso, arms, legs, and neck would make the identification of these bodies infinitely more easy. Nothing garish, just a 12 digit number (or however many digits you'd need to encompass their populace) tastefully placed.

I suggest the Social Security Number in the USA: it's only 9 digits and each person only gets one.

Or maybe "How's my behavior? Call 1-800-EAT-7448.""

Oh cmon! that's SO 20th century! RFID tags readable by satellite is what MODERN people are into!
 
2012-07-28 12:30:25 AM
That's why they should all wear badges.
 
2012-07-28 12:30:47 AM
Mexico is a filthy and horrifing country. Under Obama's warped view, he wants this great nation to lower itself so they may rise. Dangerous times we live in.
 
2012-07-28 12:35:41 AM
Do they have heads? Do thy have hands? THEN THEY'RE NOT OURS!
 
2012-07-28 12:36:40 AM
49 headless bodies by the road,49 headless bodies!
An endless drug war will soon add one more....
And then there'll be an even body count to deplore!
 
2012-07-28 12:40:24 AM

Le Bomb Suprize: That's why they should all wear badges.


Badges? Badges?...
 
2012-07-28 12:44:41 AM

89 Stick-Up Kid: Do they have heads? Do thy have hands? THEN THEY'RE NOT OURS!


Win
 
2012-07-28 12:51:14 AM
The odds on that are a million to juan
 
2012-07-28 01:05:31 AM
it's due to the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle.
 
2012-07-28 01:10:49 AM

Darth_Lukecash: feckingmorons: Is there some sort of rush?

They may have families that love and missed them. Their suffering needs to be over as quickly so they can heal.


They're not getting better just identified.

The families probably know they were in the narcotics trade. Mexico has fine forensics labs, comparable to what we have. They will identify them eventually.

/I've driven on that road.
 
2012-07-28 01:10:56 AM

consider this: I just saw a picture of a victim of a cartel. The person had been decapitated, their head skinned, arms cut off and placed beside the head, with their cock and balls in their hands. Do not go searching for Mexican drug cartel gore, you'll never be the same.


I saw that photo a few months ago. I felt ill for a few hours afterwards.
 
2012-07-28 01:12:20 AM

James!: On the border subby? Check again.

Bathia_Mapes: Is this in addition to the 49 dismembered bodies found back in mid-May, 2012?

Seems to be an update on the case.


Same bodies. Still no names.

Hard to ID bodies when there's no fingers to print, no dentition to match to records, and nobody willing to submit some DNA for fear of ending up the same way.
 
2012-07-28 01:14:16 AM

Jake Steed: Mexico is a filthy and horrifing country. Under Obama's warped view, he wants this great nation to lower itself so they may rise. Dangerous times we live in.


Mexico is great. I plan to retire there as soon as possible. I own a quinta that is being renovated just for that. I'm not afraid of being beheaded in Mexico, I'm more afraid of being shot in the US. I still walk down the street after midnight in both countries.

Feel free never to go to Mexico, you won't be missed.
 
2012-07-28 01:17:32 AM

feckingmorons: The families probably know they were in the narcotics trade.


(Assuming that you're not trolling) Many cartels are killing and mutilating innocent people in order to intimidate law enforcement and rival cartels. It's terrorism.
 
2012-07-28 01:25:11 AM
Oh, those were mine, I had to go back for more plastic bags. No no, I got it, sorry, all cleaned up in a minute...
 
2012-07-28 01:30:28 AM

consider this: I just saw a picture of a victim of a cartel. The person had been decapitated, their head skinned, arms cut off and placed beside the head, with their cock and balls in their hands.

Do not go searching for Mexican drug cartel gore, you'll never be the same.


Oh. A picture. Try a video depicting exactly how the Zetas get those heads off the (living) bodies. Although you are still right about the never-be-the-same bit, chainsaws do that.

Why does the US insist that this "Suicide by cartel-violence" be a sign that we are winning the drug war on our side of the border?
 
2012-07-28 01:37:29 AM

UsikFark: consider this: I just saw a picture of a victim of a cartel. The person had been decapitated, their head skinned, arms cut off and placed beside the head, with their cock and balls in their hands.

Do not go searching for Mexican drug cartel gore, you'll never be the same.

Oh. A picture. Try a video depicting exactly how the Zetas get those heads off the (living) bodies. Although you are still right about the never-be-the-same bit, chainsaws do that.

Why does the US insist that this "Suicide by cartel-violence" be a sign that we are winning the drug war on our side of the border?


You are both sick (and UsikFark, totally earned your handle, btw). I haven't been able to bear even thinking about looking at picture from the cartel wars since I saw a news video (which wasn't even graphic) about what the Zetas and their cronies do to live people for their Santeria ceremonies. There was also something on the news this week about a dump site that couldn't be approached because of the "gel-like sludge" in the acid tanks.
 
2012-07-28 01:42:22 AM

Captain Dan: feckingmorons: The families probably know they were in the narcotics trade.

(Assuming that you're not trolling) Many cartels are killing and mutilating innocent people in order to intimidate law enforcement and rival cartels. It's terrorism.


Yes, but those families are claiming their bodies and helping identify them. The families with family members in the drug trade are often also in the drug trade, or too afraid to help.

Not trolling, just not enough info in my Boobies.

That sort of stretches the definition of terrorism, they are not trying to impart fear in the entire populace, just the other cartels, and the cops but mostly the other drug cartels. Also a quid pro quo sort of thing now, you kill 12 zetas we kill 20 sinaloa (they don't deserve capital letters).
 
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