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(Mother Jones)   Karl Rove stars in remake of "Catch-22", will hit the super-PAC red carpet on Saturday   (motherjones.com) divider line 26
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2012-07-27 12:32:16 PM
Good. Shine a light on all of them left and right. If you believe in an issue or party enough to donate thousands to millions of dollars, have some balls and be public about it.
 
2012-07-27 12:43:33 PM
mjcdn.motherjones.com

That is one seriously punchable face.
 
2012-07-27 12:51:17 PM

Snapper Carr: That is one seriously punchable face.


I'm sure that face hasn't changed since the 8th grade. Probably got punched alot then..
 
2012-07-27 12:51:26 PM
Help! Help!

Help him!

- What?

- Help him! Help him!

- Help who?

- Help the bombardier!

- I'm the bombardier, I'm all right.

- Then help him. Help him!

- Romney.

- What' d he say?

- He said, "Romney".

- Romney's dead.

- Why is he talking to a dead man?
 
2012-07-27 12:52:08 PM
Karl Rove in "Catch-22" remake? Does he play the guy who gets chopped in half (or was it shredded in half) by the passing bomber's propellar?

/Wishes do come true sometimes.
 
2012-07-27 01:02:56 PM
I just don't get it. Why do they insist on anonymity? Are they embarrassed by the candidate they are supporting? If you are a proud Romney supporter why wouldn't you want people to know that?
 
2012-07-27 01:07:12 PM
FTFA:

A high-profile court case known as Van Hollen v. FEC threatens to shine an unwelcome beam of sunlight on donors bankrolling these organizations.

www.themoneytimes.com

Eh?!
 
2012-07-27 01:27:01 PM
When I come to power the rules will be simple, brutal, and effective.

Any person may donate what they wish to a candidate of their choosing. The catch is, they may only donate to a candidate they themselves are eligible to vote for.

In this system a billionaire could only buy, at most, two senators, a representative, and the President. (Assuming one billionaire in the Presidential election.)
 
2012-07-27 01:34:17 PM
mjcdn.motherjones.com

Something something duckface somethingsomething.
 
2012-07-27 01:36:59 PM

Evil Twin Skippy: When I come to power the rules will be simple, brutal, and effective.

Any person may donate what they wish to a candidate of their choosing. The catch is, they may only donate to a candidate they themselves are eligible to vote for.

In this system a billionaire could only buy, at most, two senators, a representative, and the President. (Assuming one billionaire in the Presidential election.)


What would prevent that billionaire from giving money to his buddy in the next state?
 
2012-07-27 01:41:18 PM

AirForceVet: Karl Rove in "Catch-22" remake? Does he play the guy who gets chopped in half (or was it shredded in half) by the passing bomber's propellar?

/Wishes do come true sometimes.


His name was Kid Sampson and the pilot of that particular bomber was McWatt, who was one of the very few people Yossarian could actually stand on that macabre floating casket he so adroitly navigated through the clouds of flack that puffed incessantly upward at them from the scowling faces of the German Herman Goering division. Yossarian had been told his skill in the art of evasive maneuvers was second to none but none knew why or how. There was no standard operating procedure when it came to evasive maneuvers, and Yossarian found that all it took to be the best was to be more afraid than everyone else. And Yossarian was most assuredly that.

"You don't have to be ashamed," Doc Daneeka had told him one day, "Everyone gets scared."

"I'm not ashamed," Yossarian replied, "I'm just afraid."

What were we talking about again?
 
2012-07-27 01:43:37 PM

unyon: Evil Twin Skippy: When I come to power the rules will be simple, brutal, and effective.

Any person may donate what they wish to a candidate of their choosing. The catch is, they may only donate to a candidate they themselves are eligible to vote for.

In this system a billionaire could only buy, at most, two senators, a representative, and the President. (Assuming one billionaire in the Presidential election.)

What would prevent that billionaire from giving money to his buddy in the next state?


Money-sniffing robotic guard alligators at all state borders, duh.
 
2012-07-27 01:53:23 PM
I dreamed I was holding a live fish in my hands. It was live at first sight.
 
2012-07-27 03:31:47 PM

Lochsteppe: Money-sniffing robotic guard alligators at all state borders, duh.


My apologies for not seeing the obvious solution right in front of my face. Here I was thinking of money-sniffing robotic guard elephants, which is clearly crazy talk.
 
2012-07-27 03:45:48 PM

unyon: Lochsteppe: Money-sniffing robotic guard alligators at all state borders, duh.

My apologies for not seeing the obvious solution right in front of my face. Here I was thinking of money-sniffing robotic guard elephants, which is clearly crazy talk.


Robotic elephants never forget, which is a plus. Robotic alligators are easily mistaken for robotic crocodiles, though, so that's even better because of the
 
2012-07-27 04:09:29 PM
I dreamed I was holding a live robotic alligator in my hands.
 
2012-07-27 04:22:14 PM
"Dark Money"- used about nineteen bajillion times in the first two sentences of the article.

Really? Do dollar bills suddenly become black when they touch Karl Rove's bank account? "Hard money" vs "soft money" was a silly word game, this is just beyond stupid.


What a whiny load of crap- when my guy spends a ton of money, it shows he has support, when your guy spends a ton of money, it's "dark money" which is undermining democracy.

Long live Citizens United. More speech is always better, I don't care if it's Karl Rove, George Soros, or Satan Incarnate who's spending their money on spreading a political message, even anonymously, there's nothing wrong with it.
 
2012-07-27 04:26:03 PM

Evil Twin Skippy: When I come to power the rules will be simple, brutal, and effective.

Any person may donate what they wish to a candidate of their choosing. The catch is, they may only donate to a candidate they themselves are eligible to vote for.

In this system a billionaire could only buy, at most, two senators, a representative, and the President. (Assuming one billionaire in the Presidential election.)


In other words, you would ban people from talking about any election they can't vote in. Either that or you can provide some coherent definition of when it becomes "donating" along the spectrum of "talking to your neighbors" though "putting up signs" to "buying a local newspaper ad" to "buying a TV ad"

I've always been baffled by people who think elections will somehow be "cleaner" if only the candidates and the media are allowed to spread their opinions. That's what McCain-Feingold did, and it's pure incumbent protection. It has nothing to do with corruption.
 
2012-07-27 04:29:51 PM

Churchill2004: "Dark Money"- used about nineteen bajillion times in the first two sentences of the article.

Really? Do dollar bills suddenly become black when they touch Karl Rove's bank account? "Hard money" vs "soft money" was a silly word game, this is just beyond stupid.


What a whiny load of crap- when my guy spends a ton of money, it shows he has support, when your guy spends a ton of money, it's "dark money" which is undermining democracy.

Long live Citizens United. More speech is always better, I don't care if it's Karl Rove, George Soros, or Satan Incarnate who's spending their money on spreading a political message, even anonymously, there's nothing wrong with it.


An important piece of subtext in free speech is that, in exchange for letting anyone speak their mind, we have the right to know who is speaking--at least as it relates to influencing public discourse. That's a vital piece of info for a well-informed electorate.

Voice + identity = accountability, participation
Voice - identity = strong chance of shenanigans
 
2012-07-27 06:03:39 PM
I haven't heard from Anonymous in awhile... I'd LOVE to see them dig up records on a lot of these non-profits.
 
2012-07-27 06:11:36 PM

Lochsteppe: Voice + identity = accountability, participation
Voice - identity = strong chance of shenanigans


Publius disagrees.
 
2012-07-27 08:25:24 PM

BeesNuts: AirForceVet: Karl Rove in "Catch-22" remake? Does he play the guy who gets chopped in half (or was it shredded in half) by the passing bomber's propellar?

/Wishes do come true sometimes.

His name was Kid Sampson and the pilot of that particular bomber was McWatt, who was one of the very few people Yossarian could actually stand on that macabre floating casket he so adroitly navigated through the clouds of flack that puffed incessantly upward at them from the scowling faces of the German Herman Goering division. Yossarian had been told his skill in the art of evasive maneuvers was second to none but none knew why or how. There was no standard operating procedure when it came to evasive maneuvers, and Yossarian found that all it took to be the best was to be more afraid than everyone else. And Yossarian was most assuredly that.

"You don't have to be ashamed," Doc Daneeka had told him one day, "Everyone gets scared."

"I'm not ashamed," Yossarian replied, "I'm just afraid."

What were we talking about again?


"Jump, Doc!"
 
2012-07-28 03:39:34 PM
If you need to hide your actions, you need to rethink them.
 
2012-07-28 04:56:49 PM

Churchill2004: "Dark Money"- used about nineteen bajillion times in the first two sentences of the article.

Really? Do dollar bills suddenly become black when they touch Karl Rove's bank account? "Hard money" vs "soft money" was a silly word game, this is just beyond stupid.


What a whiny load of crap- when my guy spends a ton of money, it shows he has support, when your guy spends a ton of money, it's "dark money" which is undermining democracy.

Long live Citizens United. More speech is always better, I don't care if it's Karl Rove, George Soros, or Satan Incarnate who's spending their money on spreading a political message, even anonymously, there's nothing wrong with it.


The term they use "Dark Money" would be money donated to a non-profit group for the express purpose of being able to get your message out without having to tie your name to it.

All of the benefits of your message, none of the drawbacks of having your name attached to it.
 
2012-07-29 05:26:09 PM
Amazing how evil continues to triumph in the guise of that man.

Will he ever get his comeuppance?
 
2012-07-29 05:28:12 PM

Churchill2004: Long live Citizens United. More speech is always better, I don't care if it's Karl Rove, George Soros, or Satan Incarnate who's spending their money on spreading a political message, even anonymously, there's nothing wrong with it.


Actually, you're in favor of individuals having MORE speech than others.

And no, it isn't free. It's bought and paid for. Something the common man has little opportunity to achieve.

You're basically supporting a stacked deck and allowing the 1st Amendment to protect it.
 
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