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2012-07-27 03:42:01 PM  

Rose McGowan Loveslave: my first CSB time

The fridge scene actually came form a rejected story board series made for the first Back to the Future Movie. The Nuke blast was how the DeLoran was going to get it power to take MJF back to the 80's. It was rejected for the lightening method.

I had breakfast with the man that did the storyboards. I know you will not believe but I am hesitant to give out his name publicly.

(he also designed the bridge of the USS enterprise D for TNG. and his name is on the the dedication plaque on the bridge wall.)


Spielberg was involved with BTTF, so if you don't like the fridge scene, you should really blame Spielberg, not Lucas.
 
2012-07-27 03:42:22 PM  

Nana's Vibrator:
Yes, this is a castle. We have many tapestries. And if you are Scottish, then I am Mickey Mouse!


The nehrve!
 
2012-07-27 03:43:38 PM  

Bith Set Me Up: Rose McGowan Loveslave: my first CSB time

The fridge scene actually came form a rejected story board series made for the first Back to the Future Movie. The Nuke blast was how the DeLoran was going to get it power to take MJF back to the 80's. It was rejected for the lightening method.

I had breakfast with the man that did the storyboards. I know you will not believe but I am hesitant to give out his name publicly.

(he also designed the bridge of the USS enterprise D for TNG. and his name is on the the dedication plaque on the bridge wall.)

Spielberg was involved with BTTF, so if you don't like the fridge scene, you should really blame Spielberg, not Lucas.


In fact, Steven did publicly own up to the fridge scene and even said "blame me".
 
2012-07-27 03:48:18 PM  
Part V will be done 2 years after the death of Harrison Ford. That way no one can whine he isn't in it, and no one has to see a 70 year old man pretend to be exciting.
 
2012-07-27 03:48:29 PM  
I was not pointing at Lucus.
I never had breakfast with Lucus
 
2012-07-27 03:54:48 PM  
They pretty much lost me with the magnetic gunpowder floating around corners etc.
 
2012-07-27 03:55:56 PM  

dallylamma: I'd like them to do a 5th movie focusing on Indy and the OSS, set in the late 30s or early 40s. You could get Indy back to fighting Nazi...but...

They need to cast a new Indy because Ford is too damn old and all the joy in him has died.

It may sound ridiculous, but does anyone else think Greg Kinnear could pull it off?


They could always go with their first choice for Indy:
www.pictures19.com
 
2012-07-27 04:03:06 PM  

skwerlmaster: They pretty much lost me with the magnetic gunpowder floating around corners etc.


You gotta love plot sensitive magnets. They'll attract anything that will advance the plot, but everything else will stay right where it should (like everything else in Area 51)
 
2012-07-27 04:04:31 PM  
It wasn't a great movie, but how can people get so hung up on the fridge when:

In Raiders Indy gets to the island by riding on the outside of the submarine.
All kinds of supernatural crap happens in the finale of Raiders.
The guy whose heart gets ripped out and bursts into fire in Doom.
Indy under a voodoo spell in Doom.
The mine car chase in Doom.
Surviving the bridge in Doom.
Flying the plane without a tail wing in Crusade.
Indy healing his dad's gunshot wound with water from a cup in Crusade.

Come mon folks, it's FICTION.

I think that the idea of putting Indy in a 1950s B science fiction movie with Red Scare elements was pretty clever, but it suffered from being too convoluted and like Temple of Doom, as well as lacking a good artifact that Indy was hunting for to help push the narrative forward (also a problem with Doom).
 
2012-07-27 04:05:57 PM  

groppet: Sybarite: You're not catching me with that trick. They'd have to make a fourth movie first.

I know its like how they talk about a Highlander sequel.


Or a fourth Rocky movie that I've never heard about.
 
2012-07-27 04:08:01 PM  

elgripe: I hate Indiana Jones, but I REALLY FARKING hate South Park.

/"hate" isn't too strong a word - possibly not strong enough.


You sound depressed.
 
2012-07-27 04:29:35 PM  
Rent Party: We can buy:

* Ancient ark releasing the power of God and melting Nazi face all over the desert.
* Voodoo dolls crippling Indian from saving TEH CHILDRENZ!!!!
* Thousand year old Knight taking care of the Holy Grail advising us to "choose wisely."


But hiding from a nuclear test inside a lead lined fridge, Wile-E-Cyote style? That's just dumb, man. Totally unbelievable.

It was a funny bit. The rest of the movie stank enough for everyone.


That worked (although they should have had the pressure shock-wave hit, not the actually freaking nuke blast), and even the Alien plot was fine IMO.

It was everything else.

Swinging with monkeys, going down stepped 200 foot waterfalls and not flipping, ant's eating people, A 65 ear old man swinging on light fixtures, CGI everything. EVERYTHING! They couldn't even be bothered to bring in a real prairie dog, or build some nice sets.

And the dialogue. Oh, The dialogue and acting was absolutely horrendous. Ford and Allen felt like they hadn't been in front of a camera for a decade. They got Blanchett and she gave one of her worst performances ever, due to the comically bad dialogue. Witty dialogue, fun spars of comedy between characters, and just writing them as real people could have saved it. But again, someone left the pen with Lucas and he absolutely murdered both the set pieces and the characters. Bob Kraft would have been able to give a similar performance with that script.

In the end the entire movie felt like satire of what the previous movies are.
 
2012-07-27 04:32:39 PM  
Remember when Shia was in the Crystal Skull movie? Heh. What was his name in that? Spike? Or... Bud, or something?
 
2012-07-27 04:34:55 PM  
Mud. which summed up his performance in almost anything he does for me.
 
2012-07-27 04:38:26 PM  

limeyfellow: This is what happens when there is no one to slap George Lucas and tell him to "knock it off with that crap."


I tried, but the new restraining order is pretty clear about that being a no-no.

/Until I get my bullhorn!
 
2012-07-27 04:42:11 PM  

Rose McGowan Loveslave: Mud. which summed up his performance in almost anything he does for me.


Mutt. Named after a dog. Like his father.

/"We named the dog Indiana"
 
2012-07-27 04:48:36 PM  
I think the real reason why the hate for the movie is that it made the Soviets look bad. Admit it

/Yes I went there and went full retard.
 
2012-07-27 04:54:17 PM  
I'm not sure that hiding in a refrigerator to survive a nuclear blast is more ridiculous than ducking around a corner to escape a wall of water. I mean, I can suspend disbelief more easily about nuclear physics I don't really understand than about the behavior of liquids.
 
2012-07-27 05:00:02 PM  
I've said this in every Crystal Skull thread:

My problem with the movie is Indy was totally irrelevant. He didn't NEED to be there.
The Russians would have found the skull, taken it to the temple, and died, blown up, or whatever happened to them, whether Indy was involved or not!

In fact, Indy actually HURT things by getting involved in Raiders! Hell, if he let them HAVE the ark, they would have taken it to Hitler, opened it, and ended World War II before it started!

/Indy was a menace
 
2012-07-27 05:00:56 PM  

gunga galunga: Nana's Vibrator: Yes, this is a castle. We have many tapestries. And if you are Scottish, then I am Mickey Mouse!
/it worked because he punched the old guy out


Couldn't he have just done that from the start?

Yeah, I know. That would have been very un-Indylike to have done that.

But surely George and Steve could have come up with a ruse for Indy that didn't make him look stupid.


Isn't Sean Connery Scottish? - it leads you to wonder if there's a story behind that whole sequence, though I don't see Harrison Ford as the kind of guy who would mock anyone, let alone Sean Connery.
 
2012-07-27 05:04:30 PM  
Leave Harrison Ford alone...

HE BELONGS IN A MUSEUM.
 
2012-07-27 05:39:11 PM  

puckrock2000: dallylamma: I'd like them to do a 5th movie focusing on Indy and the OSS, set in the late 30s or early 40s. You could get Indy back to fighting Nazi...but...

They need to cast a new Indy because Ford is too damn old and all the joy in him has died.

It may sound ridiculous, but does anyone else think Greg Kinnear could pull it off?

They could always go with their first choice for Indy:
[www.pictures19.com image 391x496]


If you want a new Indy, Nathan Fillion. He shoots firts.
 
2012-07-27 05:39:46 PM  

pion: If you want a new Indy, Nathan Fillion. He shoots first.


FTFM
 
2012-07-27 05:46:04 PM  

buntz: In fact, Indy actually HURT things by getting involved in Raiders! Hell, if he let them HAVE the ark, they would have taken it to Hitler, opened it, and ended World War II before it started!


Actually, they never would have found it without him - they were digging in the wrong place. His intervention resulted in a bunch of Nazis getting face-melted.
 
2012-07-27 06:03:53 PM  

Gunther: Actually, they never would have found it without him - they were digging in the wrong place. His intervention resulted in a bunch of Nazis getting face-melted.


Right, but then he went through a lot of trouble to steal it back from them! He could have just let them have it! Load it on the plane, fly it to Germany, problem solved!
 
2012-07-27 06:24:58 PM  
For the record, i couldn't give two fuzzy shiatlogs about how much any of you disliked the last movie. I liked it.Hokey,far fetched,impossible,whatever. I don't care. It was still Indiana Jones and it was fun. I really hope they make another.
 
2012-07-27 06:42:09 PM  

PlasticMoby: For the record, i couldn't give two fuzzy shiatlogs about how much any of you disliked the last movie. I liked it.Hokey,far fetched,impossible,whatever. I don't care. It was still Indiana Jones and it was fun. I really hope they make another.


*internet fist bump* see my previous post that every one ignored.
 
2012-07-27 07:17:33 PM  

Rose McGowan Loveslave: Nana's Vibrator

While the lightning thing was far-fetched, the nuclear blast thing (I'm assuming it would have been at a distant testing site) might have ruined BTTF It seems to have left a stench on Crystal Skull.

Not too distant it was supposed to be the Trinity test blast (I believe) and BTTF takes place in CA. for the record I like the lightening as well. I think the nuke blast was abandoned because of Cold War fears.


They abandoned the nuke because it was too expensive to do. And they changed the time machine from a fridge to a car because they didn't want kids climbing into fridges and getting stuck.
 
2012-07-27 07:32:41 PM  
I might be alone on this but the only thing I like about the movie is the fridge scene.

From when Indy gets abandoned to when he discovers the mannequins and looks around in bafflement to the dawning realization, it's a tense, funny scene. To me, it's the only thing about the movie that works. And I like the way it suggests that the aging Dr. Jones is getting in over his head, that the future is quickly looming up on a man so obsessed with the past.

Maybe if it had occurred later in the film as opposed to twenty minutes in, it wouldn't leave such a sour taste. Because once your hero survives a nuclear blast, no other threat seems as dangerous, and you blow your tension load before it even has a chance to get going.

Oh, and the argument that it has to be aliens because it's set in the 50s is bullshiat. The rest of the movie plays out like the previous three, like the old Republic serials of the 30s. The only 50s element is aliens.

Anyway, Plinkett articulates better than I can.
 
2012-07-27 08:21:11 PM  

Cerebral Knievel: PlasticMoby: For the record, i couldn't give two fuzzy shiatlogs about how much any of you disliked the last movie. I liked it.Hokey,far fetched,impossible,whatever. I don't care. It was still Indiana Jones and it was fun. I really hope they make another.

*internet fist bump* see my previous post that every one ignored.


It's a much better movie than it is given credit for. It's not as good as Raiders, but Raiders is an absolutely fantastic film - if you expect your movies to be as good as Raiders, you're going to be disappointed most of the time.

Sure, it had some flaws. But I enjoyed it.
 
2012-07-27 09:03:30 PM  
Oh, look, it's the Internet echo chamber turning something pretty good into something everyone seethes with constant anger over.

"The movie was pretty good"
"Yeah, the movie was pretty good, but I thought that fridge scene was pretty far out."
"The fridge scene and the bit with the CGI aliens. What was up with the CGI aliens?"
"Yeah, that was pretty bad."
"Yeah, this movie was pretty bad."
"Pretty bad? It was horrible."
"Horrible? It was a travesty. I despise it beyond all rational thought."
"George Lucas is pure evil. We should hate the creator of Star Wars forever because of this."
"Hate him? We should put his head on a pike for future generations as a sacrifice and a warning!"
"George Lucas ruined my entire life! I can never love again!"
"Sarah Palin saw Indiana Jones 4 while pregnant and her baby came out with Down's Syndrome!"
"George Lucas sold his soul to the Devil!"
"George Lucas IS the Devil!"
"I retroactively hate everything George Lucas ever did, right back to American Graffiti!"
"I liked Star Wars..."
"BURN THE HERETIC!"

It is literally impossible to hate this movie enough for some people. Everyone I know loved that movie for about three days after they saw it. Then they started playing "I'm more hep than you" on the Internet and now I can't get anyone to admit to spending money on it.
 
2012-07-27 09:29:16 PM  

Gunther: buntz: In fact, Indy actually HURT things by getting involved in Raiders! Hell, if he let them HAVE the ark, they would have taken it to Hitler, opened it, and ended World War II before it started!

Actually, they never would have found it without him - they were digging in the wrong place. His intervention resulted in a bunch of Nazis getting face-melted.


What Indy should have done was instead of picking up a rocket launcher to make and empty threat about blowing up the ark, he picked up a sniper rifle and took Belloq out with a head shot. Heinrich would have never gone through with "'zis Jewis ritual" and the opening of the ark would have been saved for Der Furher.

Of course, Indy would have been gunned down by the Nazis the moment after he took the shot and God only knows what they would have done with Marion....

But hindsight is 20/20 and Indy's actions were perfectly logical based on what he knew at the time that he did it.
 
2012-07-27 09:38:16 PM  

ZantiMisfit: Whenever a discussion about Indiana Jones comes up, I hear a lot of debate about whether Temple of Doom was a good movie or not.
The truth? It's both.
Watch the first hour, then hit stop. You'll swear it's one of the worst movies ever.
Wait 24 hours, then watch the rest, and hey, it's an Indiana Jones movie again!

It's actually startliing how much a difference in quality exists between the first and second half of Temple of Doom.


Wha? The Obi Wan Nightclub was fantastic. Getting to Pankot sucked, but after the grossout dinner things pick right up.
 
2012-07-27 10:17:03 PM  

MBrady: Are you supposed to synch up the movie with Dark Side of the Moon or something?


That could be interesting. Everything syncs up with DSoTM. Everything.
 
2012-07-27 11:21:18 PM  
guys werent drunk enouph when you watched the movie were you?

that said still waiting for a alien game where the aliens are weak and die with a 5 shot burst to the chest from a pulse rifle and im off topic

/drunk i am
 
2012-07-27 11:29:50 PM  
The series has already nuked the fridge.
 
2012-07-28 12:33:38 AM  

TyrantII: And the dialogue. Oh, The dialogue and acting was absolutely horrendous. Ford and Allen felt like they hadn't been in front of a camera for a decade. They got Blanchett and she gave one of her worst performances ever, due to the comically bad dialogue. Witty dialogue, fun spars of comedy between characters, and just writing them as real people could have saved it. But again, someone left the pen with Lucas and he absolutely murdered both the set pieces and the characters. Bob Kraft would have been able to give a similar performance with that script.


You do realize that Lucas didn't write the script, correct?
 
2012-07-28 12:59:30 AM  

Rose McGowan Loveslave: my first CSB time

The fridge scene actually came form a rejected story board series made for the first Back to the Future Movie. The Nuke blast was how the DeLoran was going to get it power to take MJF back to the 80's. It was rejected for the lightening method.

I had breakfast with the man that did the storyboards. I know you will not believe but I am hesitant to give out his name publicly.

(he also designed the bridge of the USS enterprise D for TNG. and his name is on the the dedication plaque on the bridge wall.)


Andrew Probert. He designed the whole ship of the Enterprise-D among many other things. He co-designed the BTTF Delorean time machine. The time machine was a fridge in the earliest concept but that was discarded before Probert came in. Why do think he'd get blamed for Crystal Skull? He had nothing to do with that and what he did work on is great.
 
2012-07-28 01:32:13 AM  
I forgive the Fridge Scene (how did he not have cancer?) and I forgive the annoying Shia Labouf schmuck running around as Indy's kid. The franchise has to grow and I loved his creative solution to his dilemia. I loved the red scare tie-ins, I loved the scenery, I loved bringing back Marion. I loved the creepy aliens.

What can't I forgive? The vine scene is completely unforgivable. It's a sin. It's a "OMG we have CGI!" scene I might have allowed in a movie from 1998. In a film in 2008 it looked absolutely terrible. And stupid. and insane. and hackey. And worst of all: LAME. It looked lame. It didn't look fun. It looked completely out of place and LAME.

Unforgivable. And for you obviously drunk people out there who think Temple is a worse film, I ask you: Is there one scene more out of place in Temple then that one was in Crystal Skulls?
 
2012-07-28 06:43:03 AM  

saintstryfe: Unforgivable. And for you obviously drunk people out there who think Temple is a worse film, I ask you: Is there one scene more out of place in Temple then that one was in Crystal Skulls?


Musical number opening a Indy adventure...

The whole life raft scene.

The goofy gross-out dinner scene.

/drunk my ass
 
2012-07-28 10:44:13 AM  

PlasticMoby: It was still Indiana Jones and it was fun. I really hope they make another.


If you thought that was Indiana Jones, there is something fundamentally wrong with you.
 
2012-07-28 10:55:22 AM  
GBmanNC

>>> Darth_Lukecash: I enjoyed the movie, not the best Indy flick, but better than Temple of
>>> Doom. I had no problem with it being aliens because the film was set in the 50's. Aliens
>>> was the rage in fiction back then.

>>> Shea LaBueff did fine-but the monkey swinging was bad.

Awwww hell no!

This gets a pass?
evolvingfilm.files.wordpress.com

// and Shea LaBueff never did "fine" at anything.
 
2012-07-28 12:45:26 PM  

OnlyM3: GBmanNC

>>> Darth_Lukecash: I enjoyed the movie, not the best Indy flick, but better than Temple of
>>> Doom. I had no problem with it being aliens because the film was set in the 50's. Aliens
>>> was the rage in fiction back then.

>>> Shea LaBueff did fine-but the monkey swinging was bad.

Awwww hell no!
This gets a pass?
[evolvingfilm.files.wordpress.com image 850x365]

// and Shea LaBueff never did "fine" at anything.


They tried it on Mythbusters and it worked.
 
2012-07-28 04:31:25 PM  

OnlyM3: GBmanNC

>>> Darth_Lukecash: I enjoyed the movie, not the best Indy flick, but better than Temple of
>>> Doom. I had no problem with it being aliens because the film was set in the 50's. Aliens
>>> was the rage in fiction back then.

>>> Shea LaBueff did fine-but the monkey swinging was bad.

Awwww hell no!
This gets a pass?
[evolvingfilm.files.wordpress.com image 850x365]

// and Shea LaBueff never did "fine" at anything.


Isn't there a scene in Crystal Skull where they drive off a cliff and land in a big tree branch, then fall and land in another one, and then another? It was like that life raft thing x3, and that wasn't even that cringe-worthy compared to the rest of the movie.
 
2012-07-28 04:53:16 PM  
The Mummy with Brendan Fraser (1999) was a better Indiana Jones sequal than the Crystal Skull. Fact.
 
2012-07-28 05:01:18 PM  

Brokenseas: The Mummy with Brendan Fraser (1999) was a better Indiana Jones sequal than the Crystal Skull. Fact.


True story.
 
2012-07-28 06:53:15 PM  

Brokenseas: The Mummy with Brendan Fraser (1999) was a better Indiana Jones sequal than the Crystal Skull. Fact.


Do you have any idea how sad that statement is?
 
2012-07-28 07:08:00 PM  

Cerebral Knievel: I didn't mind the crystal skull, even all the far fetched stunts, yes the vine scene was goofy, I was fine with the aliens, I was fine with the nuke fridge. It was an Indiana Jones movie.

Here is how it works folks... you are not 8 years old anymore.. you were more willing to suspend your disbelief about jumping out of air plane on a raft, melting Nazi's etcetcetcetc. You are trying to look at it with the jaded eyes of a broken adult, hoping to catch a little bit of that lost innocence of childhood. but y'all choose to be critical and jaded when you should've opened up your heart, imagination and sense of awe..

you chose... poorly, and then blamed lucas for it.


Yes folks it's that guy. Oh no! It's not the movie thats bad. You are just jaded. Notice that the people who don't like the movie talk about why they don't like it, and the people that do like the movie never talk about why they liked it. They just use their psychiatry degree to analyze the people that hate the movie.

Here's how it really works. You like horribly bad movies. You are offended when people don't share your love of trashy movies. It's ok. You are not alone. There are plenty of people that love crappy movies. Just look at how much money the Transformers movies bring in.

The rest of us are disappointed that the series started out as a classic and then slowly degraded to into a mess.
 
2012-07-28 07:54:44 PM  

Omis: Cerebral Knievel: I didn't mind the crystal skull, even all the far fetched stunts, yes the vine scene was goofy, I was fine with the aliens, I was fine with the nuke fridge. It was an Indiana Jones movie.

Here is how it works folks... you are not 8 years old anymore.. you were more willing to suspend your disbelief about jumping out of air plane on a raft, melting Nazi's etcetcetcetc. You are trying to look at it with the jaded eyes of a broken adult, hoping to catch a little bit of that lost innocence of childhood. but y'all choose to be critical and jaded when you should've opened up your heart, imagination and sense of awe..

you chose... poorly, and then blamed lucas for it.

Yes folks it's that guy. Oh no! It's not the movie thats bad. You are just jaded. Notice that the people who don't like the movie talk about why they don't like it, and the people that do like the movie never talk about why they liked it. They just use their psychiatry degree to analyze the people that hate the movie.

Here's how it really works. You like horribly bad movies. You are offended when people don't share your love of trashy movies. It's ok. You are not alone. There are plenty of people that love crappy movies. Just look at how much money the Transformers movies bring in.

The rest of us are disappointed that the series started out as a classic and then slowly degraded to into a mess.


yes folks! its that guy! the one who really loved a movie as a kid, has waited all their life for a sequel when the time for that has gone well past the time for it to be relevant to do so, And when the producers finnaly DO decide that its time to cash in.. I meen revisit the franchise they get all excited, and when the producers follow the same formula as they did in the past, they get all pissed off because they can't find the same wide eyed wonderment in it anymore!

yes.. I do love trashy movies, my collection of direct to drive in theater classics is second to none.

I am not offended in the slightest about people not liking that movie, or any other movie for that matter.. I am, however a little cheesed off about people bickering over and over analyzing what is a movie designed to be a summer time block buster family orientated film with built in merchandising opportunities.

GOOD GOD! its farking Indiana Jones for farks sake! what the hell were you expecting from it!?! it's bombastic blockbuster action movie bullshiat! it is not meant to be taken critically! this is NOT farking Citizen Cane here! you are not expected to, nor required to think about it!

Oh, and while I was a big transformers junkie as a kid, I didn't care for the movies at all... couldn't hear shiat, couldn't follow what was happening.. explosions and stuff just for the sake of it. and far too many cringe worthy moments...

But here is the main point.. in about 20 years? there is going to be a WHOLE generation of assholes who were 8 years old when the first one came out pimping up the merits of THOSE films and biatching about HOW DARE they rape my childhood with this... this.. TRIPE!


its okay.. I'm sure your comeback will be a dissertation on my grammar and sentence structure from here on out..

have fun.
 
2012-07-28 09:35:26 PM  

Cerebral Knievel: GOOD GOD! its farking Indiana Jones for farks sake! what the hell were you expecting from it!?! it's bombastic blockbuster action movie bullshiat! it is not meant to be taken critically! this is NOT farking Citizen Cane here! you are not expected to, nor required to think about it!


This is a horrible argument. There's no such thing as bad or good blockbuster action movies? Don't be stupid.
 
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