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(College Football Talk)   Washington and LSU get verbal commitments for football from eighth graders. Colleges forced to break the news after kids are spotted driving their own Corvettes   (collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com) divider line 28
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2012-07-27 08:33:59 AM  
Well this is ridiculous.
 
2012-07-27 08:53:09 AM  
FTA -- "I was kind of shocked when I first heard it - it was a dream come true," Moses, 14, told ESPN.com. "I've always wanted to play for LSU since I was a kid, and now it's coming true in front of my eyes."

When was that, since yesterday?
 
2012-07-27 09:01:29 AM  
Yeah, but the LSU kid is probably a 17 year old.

/drtfa
//it's a joke, you're smart, ok
 
2012-07-27 09:05:50 AM  
I think they call that a "sandusky" commitment..

/too soon?
 
mjg
2012-07-27 09:08:12 AM  
The Penn State 'recruitment model' seems to work. Who knew?
 
2012-07-27 09:08:23 AM  

VRmp3: I think they call that a "sandusky" commitment..

/too soon?


Was going to say this thread would be epic if it was penn state
 
2012-07-27 09:11:38 AM  
Stay tuned after "Toddlers and Tiaras" for our reality series premiere of "Preteens and Pigskins"
 
2012-07-27 09:12:02 AM  
Subby, the washington kid maybe. The LSU kid has an IROC Z
 
2012-07-27 09:21:21 AM  

Krymson Tyde: Well this is ridiculous a complete and total publicity stunt.

 
2012-07-27 09:29:25 AM  

Krymson Tyde: Well this is ridiculous.


Why? Other sports do it. In basketball, kids as young as 8 are monitored by college and pro scouts - by the time they reach 13-14, the best of them begin the process of being groomed for the NBA. In soccer, the big teams have entire departments dedicated solely to traveling around the world and looking for young players with potential - the best of those players are given free room, board, education, training and a stipend on the condition that if the club chooses, they will sign a professional contract once they're of age. Why should football be any different?
 
2012-07-27 09:35:41 AM  
Yeesh, people have given kids (usually of famous athletes who attended the school) offers when they're born before. What are you going to do when you discover those cases?
 
2012-07-27 09:35:59 AM  
College sports have no credibility anymore.

You shouldn't be allowed to speak to any of these kids until they're high school seniors.
 
2012-07-27 10:10:47 AM  

p the boiler: Subby, the washington kid maybe. The LSU kid has an IROC Z that smells like corndogs


FTFY

/LSU fan
 
2012-07-27 10:14:07 AM  

Snapper Carr: Krymson Tyde: Well this is ridiculous.

Why? Other sports do it. In basketball, kids as young as 8 are monitored by college and pro scouts - by the time they reach 13-14, the best of them begin the process of being groomed for the NBA. In soccer, the big teams have entire departments dedicated solely to traveling around the world and looking for young players with potential - the best of those players are given free room, board, education, training and a stipend on the condition that if the club chooses, they will sign a professional contract once they're of age. Why should football be any different?


I'm old enough to remember Bob Knight recruiting Damon Bailey in 8th grade.
 
2012-07-27 10:16:41 AM  
Recruiting kids while they are this young is very stupid. What if the kid decides he does not want ot play football? Gets hurt? Loses talent? etc...
 
2012-07-27 10:31:38 AM  

kdawg7736: Recruiting kids while they are this young is very stupid. What if the kid decides he does not want ot play football? Gets hurt? Loses talent? etc...


They're disposable. You go out and find your next moneymaker.

/Think it's wrong?
//Stop buying tickets and merchandise.
 
2012-07-27 10:44:39 AM  
Wait, they are already 14 and going INTO 8th grade?
 
2012-07-27 10:58:40 AM  
Non-binding commitment is an oxymoron. This won't stop other coaches from recruiting them. Even though the article doesn't say, I'd doubt that it's binding on the school either.
 
2012-07-27 11:40:06 AM  

TheGreatGazoo: Wait, they are already 14 and going INTO 8th grade?


It is called "Red Shirting." You hold the child back a grade so they can grow a bit bigger.
 
2012-07-27 12:55:47 PM  
Still can't sign an LOI until February of his senior year of High School, so this is pretty meaningless.
 
2012-07-27 01:03:52 PM  

TheGreatGazoo: Wait, they are already 14 and going INTO 8th grade?


I don't know how common it is, or how widespread, but several years ago I read about Texas parents having their kids held back a year so they'd stand out better on the field in middle school. I suspect at the they were looking to get recruited (against the rules but ha ha wink nod) into good high school teams, rather than college.

There are entire industries full of people who seem to me to be totally warped psychologically dedicated to nothing other than following the careers and recruiting of athletes from the time they are little kids.
 
2012-07-27 01:06:43 PM  
Oh yeah, I'm thinking solely U.S. with the 'career path' being middle school, club teams, AAU teams, high school, college. I'm not sure what happens elsewhere, but Canadian Junior hockey leagues and some of the soccer player development strike me as being just as bad.
 
2012-07-27 04:31:50 PM  

Sliding Carp: Oh yeah, I'm thinking solely U.S. with the 'career path' being middle school, club teams, AAU teams, high school, college. I'm not sure what happens elsewhere, but Canadian Junior hockey leagues and some of the soccer player development strike me as being just as bad.


You really should take the club/AAU pair and have them as a parallel to the high school path. There once was a powerhouse AAU boys' basketball team here- started their own "magnet" school, and basically existed for basketball. Eventually got shut down because their test scores sucked- on the order of 1 in 20 being literate.
 
2012-07-27 04:35:22 PM  
I started pimping my kid to LSU when he was 2. He's up to 7 and still doesn't have an offer. I'm getting a bit impatient. Or is that "in patient."
 
2012-07-27 05:16:43 PM  

Sword and Shield:

You really should take the club/AAU pair and have them as a parallel to the high school path. There once was a powerhouse AAU boys' basketball team here- started their own "magnet" school, and basically existed for basketball. Eventually got shut down because their test scores sucked- on the order of 1 in 20 being literate.


Yeah, I couldn't figure out how to make an ASCII diagram, but the club/AAU/traveling baseball/etc. stuff is parallel to the scholastic, but seems to have been gaining ascendancy over the last decade or two in terms of importance to recruiters.

AAU-related stuff in basketball, especially, seems to be hitting the newspapers more and more frequently with stories that don't quite seem right and don't seem to make sense taken in isolation. It makes me think they are puzzle pieces of a really big jig-saw, and that there's a LOT of money moving around in a shadow industry that basically goes from college recruiters to what are essentially pimps selling kids down the river.
 
2012-07-27 05:17:33 PM  
The kid does attend the LSU Lab School which is on the grounds of the LSU campus. So it isn't like he lives nowhere near Baton Rouge or anything.

Yes, it is still a little ridiculous though.
 
2012-07-27 08:57:47 PM  
Moses should at least listen to Alabama. He'd get a Yukon up there.
 
2012-07-27 10:06:05 PM  
FTA: Besides, doesn't it something about today's recruiting landscape when the following statement is released (about Martell)

I this sentence is missing something.
 
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