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(Greek Reporter)   Norwegians are sick of English in advertising, according to Norway's English-language news site   (thelocal.no ) divider line
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2012-07-27 12:45:30 AM  
Norwegians are sick of English in advertising, according to Norway's English-language news site an English-language news site covering Norway.

ftfy, sub
 
2012-07-27 01:08:20 AM  
If only Norwegians had a way to tell businesses this by not spending money on said businesses.
 
2012-07-27 01:28:18 AM  
I have 4 nieces and nephews growing up in Norway. They emigrated there years ago. It was tough for them to learn Norwegian because so many of their friends in school spoke English, also.

The inconveniences of an educated, polyglot society, I guess.
 
2012-07-27 03:59:44 AM  
Comments from TFA mostly about Norwegians regularly using English curse words. I blame Hollywood.
 
2012-07-27 04:02:48 AM  
If only there were some people fluent in Norwegian, who had advertising skills, who could write advertisements less annoying than the English ones.
 
2012-07-27 04:19:01 AM  

Kevin72: If only there were some people fluent in Norwegian, who had advertising skills, who could write advertisements less annoying than the English ones.


The ones in Norwegian are just as annoying. They could be in some bornean tribal lingo for all I care. Actually, that would be an improvement, because then I wouldn't understand the drivel.

Ads = RL spam, and I try to tune it all out.

/norwegian
 
2012-07-27 04:24:11 AM  
Hey Swede!
 
2012-07-27 04:26:13 AM  

Kevin72: Comments from TFA mostly about Norwegians regularly using English curse words. I blame Hollywood.


Some other comments also say they should learn Urdu or Arabic because of the brown flood. I thought he was joking, but apparently Oslo is 30% immigrant and expected to be 51% by 2030.
Yeah, that's a safer bet.

Damn, Europe. Damn.
 
2012-07-27 04:27:21 AM  
In before the "I wanna fark you in the ass" commercial.
 
2012-07-27 04:28:16 AM  
It's OK, before too long they'll be sick of advertising in Chinese.
 
2012-07-27 04:28:42 AM  
Call it an immigrant language.

'Cause we come from the land of a milder climate, from the midnight fog where the food totally blows.
 
2012-07-27 04:28:54 AM  
Norway? F*ck 'em.

/F*ck Amway, too
 
2012-07-27 04:29:22 AM  
En elg en gang bet min søster
 
2012-07-27 04:32:30 AM  

fusillade762: En elg en gang bet min søster


Came here to say that.
/whatever that was
 
2012-07-27 04:33:02 AM  
That is natural, it is not their national language. They even told Cherry to back off.
 
2012-07-27 04:33:03 AM  

Uncle Tractor: Kevin72: If only there were some people fluent in Norwegian, who had advertising skills, who could write advertisements less annoying than the English ones.

The ones in Norwegian are just as annoying. They could be in some bornean tribal lingo for all I care. Actually, that would be an improvement, because then I wouldn't understand the drivel.

Ads = RL spam, and I try to tune it all out.

/norwegian


I think almost all advertising is wasted on me. I'm not going to buy a car, I like getting around SF on a motorbike. I'm not going to refi any house. For travel I compare online. So sorry, advertisers. Oh, and I really ignore political ads, especially after voting early absentee. Yes I study the issues first.
 
2012-07-27 04:51:40 AM  
wow, just a few weeks after neo-nazi Breivik goes nuts, we've got cultural nationalism. Where is all this leading, Norway?
 
2012-07-27 04:58:48 AM  

C18H27NO3: fusillade762: En elg en gang bet min søster

Came here to say that.
/whatever that was


No idea, but I think he says he wants to bang his on sister
 
2012-07-27 04:59:23 AM  

cman: C18H27NO3: fusillade762: En elg en gang bet min søster

Came here to say that.
/whatever that was

No idea, but I think he says he wants to bang his own sister


FIXT
 
2012-07-27 05:10:22 AM  
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Approves
 
2012-07-27 05:19:19 AM  
FTFA: Studies show that even students who believe they have an excellent grasp of the language often have major difficulties learning through English. One Swedish study found that physics students taught using English asked fewer questions, answered fewer questions and stopped taking notes.

This is a major problem where I teach (Saudi Arabia) and number of other places, and people who ought to know better act like it doesn't exist. Studying difficult material in an unfamiliar language puts you on your back foot. You end up learning less and being less competent when you graduate, which goes a fair way toward undoing what you set out to do when you establish schools to "develop" a place and end their reliance on expat workers.

In Saudi the problem is hellish as their public school system sucks ass. I teach pre-med students (the cream of the crop) who are studying at university math and science that would be taught early in an American high school -- and they struggle with it. It would be hard for them in Arabic. Putting it in English just kicks them farther down the stairs, but when you point that out you get some mindless line about English being "The International Language" (for all the farking good that does kids who can't read their own damn textbooks) or you get the cynical, if true, advice that you're getting paid so you're better off shutting up and taking the money.

Frustrating.
 
2012-07-27 05:21:39 AM  

ShannonKW: FTFA: Studies show that even students who believe they have an excellent grasp of the language often have major difficulties learning through English. One Swedish study found that physics students taught using English asked fewer questions, answered fewer questions and stopped taking notes.

This is a major problem where I teach (Saudi Arabia) and number of other places, and people who ought to know better act like it doesn't exist. Studying difficult material in an unfamiliar language puts you on your back foot. You end up learning less and being less competent when you graduate, which goes a fair way toward undoing what you set out to do when you establish schools to "develop" a place and end their reliance on expat workers.

In Saudi the problem is hellish as their public school system sucks ass. I teach pre-med students (the cream of the crop) who are studying at university math and science that would be taught early in an American high school -- and they struggle with it. It would be hard for them in Arabic. Putting it in English just kicks them farther down the stairs, but when you point that out you get some mindless line about English being "The International Language" (for all the farking good that does kids who can't read their own damn textbooks) or you get the cynical, if true, advice that you're getting paid so you're better off shutting up and taking the money.

Frustrating.


If the native English speakers would stop sucking Latin and French cock and remember its history, maybe other Germanic peoples would find English the easiest language out there.
 
2012-07-27 05:29:42 AM  
I can understand them being annoyed with the glut of English. Same in Sweden (and many other countries). But that's just the way it goes. Norwegians and Swedes speak excellent English for the most part, and it has a certain appeal, especially to the younger generations. I mean, I've lived in Sweden for a decade and rarely use my Swedish. Partly because I'm an asshole, partly because I've discovered I suck at languages, but mostly because there's just not much reason for me to use a language that is so localized, even while residing amongst its speakers. And that's in the north of the country, where the rednecks are. It's even worse (better?) in Stockholm and elsewhere down south. I can't speak for Norway much aside from Trondheim, though I've turned down jobs there and using English (or even my Swedish) has never been a problem.

Having said that, there are nationalists here. Mostly younger people. Which can be confusing, as their generation is also the most adaptive and accepting of English, so it can be hard to identify or pigeonhole them, or even to gauge the degree of their nationalism. When confronted by such types, I usually let loose my Imperialist American. Which never helps, but that's the point.
 
2012-07-27 05:33:45 AM  
There are only two groups that speak Norwegian:

Norwegians and drunk Minnesotans
 
2012-07-27 05:41:38 AM  
Mind you, this is the language council's opinion on the matter. Down here in southeastern Norway, it is fashionable to drop a little English in your conversation...just a word or phrase. The cashier at the grocery might ask "Paper or plastic?" when it comes time for payment. Your neighbor might drop a English idiom during the course of a conversation by the mailboxes.

Personally, I think the language council has better things to do with its time. Like maybe coming up with a fixed set of regional dialects for immigrants to learn. Right now, folks learning Norwegian are being taught what can be called the "Middle Oslo" dialect. For me, it's pretty freaking useless because I live an hour south of Oslo and the dialects here are very, very different to the point where I can't make out half of what's being said.
 
2012-07-27 05:41:47 AM  
Want to speak Norwegian? Simply talk backwards.
 
2012-07-27 05:44:32 AM  
 
2012-07-27 06:01:14 AM  
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holy hell your gonna EAT THEM?
make sure you eat them all your a growing boy!
 
2012-07-27 06:05:59 AM  

cman: If the native English speakers would stop sucking Latin and French cock and remember its history, maybe other Germanic peoples would find English the easiest language out there.


But nothing has the cachet of French or the gravitas of Latin, not to mention the euphony. German is too grim, and if we get too much of it in the language we'll all end up karate-chopping the air and marching funny and drinking beer and eating sausages and yodeling in the valley and other unwholesome things.

You'll notice that some of us have already started doing some of those things. It's started already!

Loanwords are farking up languages worse than English, if that's consolation. No one in Japan know what the hell they're saying anymore. A Japanese holding forth on information technology sounds like an epileptic quarterback calling a play. They find English technical terms so unwieldy that they chop them up so that no man living can figure out what they were supposed to mean. "Sexual harassment" is about 11 syllables in Japanese, so they hacked it down to "sekuhara", and I got to watch some bewildered young office worker humiliate himself on television. Cornered by a reporter for his opinion on "sekuhara" he looked right at the camera and said the he didn't know much about it now, but he certainly intended to take it over should he become section chief.

It goes to show that loanwords are indispensable for being pretentious and hiding your ignorance, even if they do backfire sometimes. Pack your screed (your discourse, your thesis) with French and it'll that fromage of je ne sais quoi. Dish out a prodigious multitude of latinate polysyllables and people will be convinced that you studied something worthwhile at university. But German though? They'll think you'll want to kill the Jews next, or at least abolish the speed limit.
 
2012-07-27 06:44:39 AM  
Well if they'd worked harder at school and got a world spanning empire, invented the modern industrial world and set the rules for the global economic model we'd all be speaking norwegian instead.
 
2012-07-27 07:23:52 AM  
English has taken many words from Norwegian's ancestor language (they,them,sky,skirt,window,anger,cake,die...), it's only fair to give something back...
 
2012-07-27 07:35:53 AM  

cman: C18H27NO3: fusillade762: En elg en gang bet min søster

Came here to say that.
/whatever that was

No idea, but I think he says he wants to bang his on sister


I thought his sister was into gang bangs and gambling.
 
2012-07-27 07:52:28 AM  
Those people up in Norwegia need to understand that as a Christian nation their first language ought to be English.
 
2012-07-27 07:58:45 AM  

zerkalo: Hey Swede!


They're Norwegian. Just like this guy:
1.bp.blogspot.com

and this badass:
kaseydriscoll.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-07-27 08:12:04 AM  
bosguydotcom.files.wordpress.com

Maybe Norwegia should stick to, ya know, dike building, and leave the language stuff alone.
 
2012-07-27 08:12:54 AM  
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"Norway ain't no country I ever heard of. They speak English in Norway?"
 
2012-07-27 08:13:22 AM  
I can understand why the people in Norway get irritated listening to commercials/advertisements in another language. In Austin, about 1/2 of our billboards and 1/3rd of our t.v. commercials are Spanish (this is dependent on where in Austin you are, of course.) I know very little Spanish and have no desire to learn it forcibly. I have no problem learning other languages, and am currently teaching myself Japanese and Latin. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to learn Japanese when everyone around you is speaking Spanish?
 
2012-07-27 08:17:44 AM  
i1247.photobucket.com


Ted is NOT amused................
 
2012-07-27 08:27:04 AM  
I have gotten sick of English accents in movies and TV where they make no damned sense. Like for roman gladiators and things. It's kind of become British=Foreign.
 
2012-07-27 08:39:02 AM  
designyoutrust.com
Norway has the best metals
 
2012-07-27 08:54:38 AM  

Jixa: I can understand why the people in Norway get irritated listening to commercials/advertisements in another language. In Austin, about 1/2 of our billboards and 1/3rd of our t.v. commercials are Spanish (this is dependent on where in Austin you are, of course.) I know very little Spanish and have no desire to learn it forcibly. I have no problem learning other languages, and am currently teaching myself Japanese and Latin. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to learn Japanese when everyone around you is speaking Spanish?


Well, if it makes you feel any better, learning Latin may help you understand a bit of Spanish.
 
2012-07-27 09:05:46 AM  

cman: Jixa: I can understand why the people in Norway get irritated listening to commercials/advertisements in another language. In Austin, about 1/2 of our billboards and 1/3rd of our t.v. commercials are Spanish (this is dependent on where in Austin you are, of course.) I know very little Spanish and have no desire to learn it forcibly. I have no problem learning other languages, and am currently teaching myself Japanese and Latin. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to learn Japanese when everyone around you is speaking Spanish?

Well, if it makes you feel any better, learning Latin may help you understand a bit of Spanish.



To me, it seems crazy to learn Japanese when half your hometown speaks spanish. As a purely practical matter, of course.
 
2012-07-27 09:10:25 AM  

ModernPrimitive01: [designyoutrust.com image 580x385]
Norway has the best metals


Indeed they do!!! The birthplace of REAL BLACK METAL!

i1247.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-27 09:34:55 AM  
So give them more Kenyans in advertising as punishment.

/forget Norway
 
2012-07-27 09:52:38 AM  

cman: If only Norwegians had a way to tell businesses this by not spending money on said businesses.


Actually, given how heavily regulated Norway businesses are and how extremely high foreign trade barriers are, they might not be able to.

/they don't just smuggle cigs and booze into Norway
//they smuggle butter and heavy industrial equipment
 
2012-07-27 09:54:37 AM  

ShannonKW: cman: If the native English speakers would stop sucking Latin and French cock and remember its history, maybe other Germanic peoples would find English the easiest language out there.

But nothing has the cachet of French or the gravitas of Latin, not to mention the euphony. German is too grim, and if we get too much of it in the language we'll all end up karate-chopping the air and marching funny and drinking beer and eating sausages and yodeling in the valley and other unwholesome things.

You'll notice that some of us have already started doing some of those things. It's started already!

Loanwords are farking up languages worse than English, if that's consolation. No one in Japan know what the hell they're saying anymore. A Japanese holding forth on information technology sounds like an epileptic quarterback calling a play. They find English technical terms so unwieldy that they chop them up so that no man living can figure out what they were supposed to mean. "Sexual harassment" is about 11 syllables in Japanese, so they hacked it down to "sekuhara", and I got to watch some bewildered young office worker humiliate himself on television. Cornered by a reporter for his opinion on "sekuhara" he looked right at the camera and said the he didn't know much about it now, but he certainly intended to take it over should he become section chief.

It goes to show that loanwords are indispensable for being pretentious and hiding your ignorance, even if they do backfire sometimes. Pack your screed (your discourse, your thesis) with French and it'll that fromage of je ne sais quoi. Dish out a prodigious multitude of latinate polysyllables and people will be convinced that you studied something worthwhile at university. But German though? They'll think you'll want to kill the Jews next, or at least abolish the speed limit.


I'm a native English speaker, and the words that gave me the most trouble in Japanese were the loan words. The worst part was that the Japanese I spoke to just automatically assumed they were using English words that I would understand - almost none of them knew that furiitaa was NOT English. It also sucked in advertising b/c they use random english words that don't actually make sense in context.
 
2012-07-27 10:00:20 AM  
One of the great things about being American is how quickly we accept other languages' words into American English. When you grow up in the mid-atlantic, you're probably saying at least 10 yiddish words a day alone without even realizing it.
 
2012-07-27 10:09:59 AM  

Krowdaddy Chixdiggit: ModernPrimitive01: [designyoutrust.com image 580x385]
Norway has the best metals

Indeed they do!!! The birthplace of REAL BLACK METAL!

[i1247.photobucket.com image 573x564]


Transylvanian Hunger is a classic. It was the first black metal I ever heard and I instantly became a fan. A friend had a cassette of it. I still have no idea how that cassette made its way to east TN.
 
2012-07-27 10:11:58 AM  
Speaking of English, no one noticed the egregious typo in TFA's headline?

Nowegians sick of English in adverts: report

Nowegians? No way!
 
2012-07-27 10:13:59 AM  

ShannonKW: Loanwords are farking up languages worse than English, if that's consolation.


One thing I've noticed is that English loanwords sound very out-of-place in Spanish, yet Spanish loanwords sound just fine in English. It also seems to me that English words don't fit well in other languages, either. My take on it is that English is already such a linguistic mishmash of south and north Germanic, French, and Celtic influences that it can easily assimilate words from anywhere. It's like the Borg of languages.
 
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