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2012-07-26 08:10:23 PM
Uh oh, Roosevelt and no Reagan? The trolls are gonna froth.
 
2012-07-26 08:22:54 PM
FDR

But he was a progressive! Ew! Get him off the list and substitute my FOX-approved alternate, Herbert Hoover.
 
2012-07-26 08:23:36 PM
Muhammad Ali??? Be real.
 
2012-07-26 08:40:02 PM
This list doesn't make me want to buy the book to read about the next 80.
 
2012-07-26 08:46:08 PM

knbber2: Muhammad Ali??? Be real.


On a ridiculously distilled list of only 20 people you're going to have debatable choices, but less pragmatic triumphs should also earn a few spots. Armstrong is on here, and despite being a massive jazz nerd myself, I can't really compare him to people who shaped the very bedrock of the nation. Yet I'm glad both he and Ali are on here because they both are more than just the sum of their parts.
 
2012-07-26 08:48:56 PM

knbber2: Muhammad Ali??? Be real.


And no Andrew Jackson.
 
2012-07-26 08:56:46 PM

dickfreckle: knbber2: Muhammad Ali??? Be real.

On a ridiculously distilled list of only 20 people you're going to have debatable choices, but less pragmatic triumphs should also earn a few spots. Armstrong is on here, and despite being a massive jazz nerd myself, I can't really compare him to people who shaped the very bedrock of the nation. Yet I'm glad both he and Ali are on here because they both are more than just the sum of their parts.


Who is to say that Louie shouldnt be up there? I mean, what about Neil or Lance? Shouldnt they be on the list, too?
 
2012-07-26 09:04:14 PM
James Watson is a sexist, racist asshole who was lucky to be in the right place at the right time. There are a dozen more deserving scientists to put on that list.
 
2012-07-26 09:05:28 PM

DrySocket: James Watson is a sexist, racist asshole who was lucky to be in the right place at the right time. There are a dozen more deserving scientists to put on that list.


He was a child of his time. You cannot fault him for that.
 
2012-07-26 09:14:36 PM

DrySocket: James Watson is a sexist, racist asshole who was lucky to be in the right place at the right time. There are a dozen more deserving scientists to put on that list.


So? George Washington went after Natives, Jefferson banged slaves. The list of human weaknesses litter the landscape of great men and women. There is no perfect hero specimen out there.
 
2012-07-26 09:18:44 PM
www.normanborlaug.org
Norman Borlaug should be on this list, instead of Steve Jobs.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2012-07-26 09:44:45 PM
local clinics that dispensed woman-controlled forms of birth control (a phrase she coined)

Preempting "whore-provided baby murder" was a marketing triumph.
 
2012-07-26 09:46:48 PM
List fails without Elias Howe, Jr.

/who in 1846 was awarded the first US patent for a sewing machine
 
2012-07-26 09:49:32 PM
i1079.photobucket.com
54-40 or Fight
 
2012-07-26 09:50:11 PM
Listed chronologically:

George Washington
Thomas Jefferson
Sacagawea, Meriwether Lewis and William Clark
Abraham Lincoln
Sitting Bull
Alexander G. Bell
Thomas Edison
Henry Ford
Wright Brothers
Margaret Sanger
Albert Einstein
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Louis Armstrong
James Watson
Martin Luther King Jr.
Muhammad Ali
Steve Jobs
 
2012-07-26 09:55:22 PM
A list that includes Muhammad Ali and Louis Armstrong and doesn't include Blackjack Pershing, Dwight Eisenhower, or Douglas Macarthur fails
 
2012-07-26 09:56:04 PM

Peter von Nostrand: Listed chronologically:

George Washington
Thomas Jefferson
Sacagawea, Meriwether Lewis and William Clark
Abraham Lincoln
Sitting Bull
Alexander G. Bell
Thomas Edison
Henry Ford
Wright Brothers
Margaret Sanger
Albert Einstein
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Louis Armstrong
James Watson
Martin Luther King Jr.
Muhammad Ali
Steve Jobs


All of them are libs. Someone will be along shortly to explain why air traffic controllers are holding the Wright Brothers back.
 
2012-07-26 09:57:38 PM
This is how bad the journalism is at Time Magazine: its list of "20 most influential" Americans only lists 19 people.

Also, fails to mention Neil Armstrong, whose name will probably be universally remembered a hell of a lot longer than Louis Armstrong.
 
2012-07-26 09:59:01 PM

Triumph: This is how bad the journalism is at Time Magazine: its list of "20 most influential" Americans only lists 19 people.


Whoops - Wright brothers = 2 people. My bad. Still think Neil got the shaft.
 
2012-07-26 10:03:15 PM
The guy who invented air conditioning, was he American?

'Cause if he was, this list fails.
 
2012-07-26 10:03:57 PM
Albert Einstein

American as Germany.
 
2012-07-26 10:06:08 PM

doglover: Albert Einstein

American as Germany.


He did become an American citizen.
 
2012-07-26 10:06:28 PM

dickfreckle: Yet I'm glad both he and Ali are on here because they both are more than just the sum of their parts.

black.

/kidding


How about Rosa Parks? MLK, Jr. receives the nod for the civil rights movement on this list, even though Rosa Parks showed that one person could make a stand.
 
2012-07-26 10:07:02 PM

Earguy: The guy who invented air conditioning, was he American?


Willis Carrier, and yes he was.
 
2012-07-26 10:09:53 PM

cman: doglover: Albert Einstein

American as Germany.

He did become an American citizen.


Eventually. If we're going to be talking about great Americans though, I'd say Tesla did more for you and me in our daily lives than Einstein, who really didn't do much of anything outside of theoretical physics. Sure, relativity is important to satellites, but electricity itself is Tesla's gift. Much good your radio phone would be if you couldn't charge it and every tower was run on DC current.
 
2012-07-26 10:10:16 PM
And what about Philo Farnsworth?
 
2012-07-26 10:22:06 PM

doglover: cman: doglover: Albert Einstein

American as Germany.

He did become an American citizen.

Eventually. If we're going to be talking about great Americans though, I'd say Tesla did more for you and me in our daily lives than Einstein, who really didn't do much of anything outside of theoretical physics. Sure, relativity is important to satellites, but electricity itself is Tesla's gift. Much good your radio phone would be if you couldn't charge it and every tower was run on DC current.


MARCONI!

OK, not an American. But for an Italian, he did good.
 
2012-07-26 10:22:42 PM
Off the top of my head, Eli Whitney, Robert Fulton, Henry Ford, and William Randolph Hearst are much more deserving that a few that were on the list.
 
2012-07-26 10:24:34 PM

Lsherm: doglover: cman: doglover: Albert Einstein

American as Germany.

He did become an American citizen.

Eventually. If we're going to be talking about great Americans though, I'd say Tesla did more for you and me in our daily lives than Einstein, who really didn't do much of anything outside of theoretical physics. Sure, relativity is important to satellites, but electricity itself is Tesla's gift. Much good your radio phone would be if you couldn't charge it and every tower was run on DC current.

MARCONI!

OK, not an American. But for an Italian, he did good.


Um... I'm pretty sure he didn't invent the pasta that was named after him
 
2012-07-26 10:29:46 PM

doglover: cman: doglover: Albert Einstein

American as Germany.

He did become an American citizen.

Eventually. If we're going to be talking about great Americans though, I'd say Tesla did more for you and me in our daily lives than Einstein, who really didn't do much of anything outside of theoretical physics. Sure, relativity is important to satellites, but electricity itself is Tesla's gift. Much good your radio phone would be if you couldn't charge it and every tower was run on DC current.


Tesla work was stolen or fought off by Marconi and Edison, If Einstein was included, so should Tesla because he became an American as well.
 
2012-07-26 10:31:23 PM
Bill Gates must be in the bottom 80.
 
2012-07-26 10:32:05 PM
What in the fark is Steve Jobs doing on that list for?
 
2012-07-26 10:35:19 PM

RexTalionis: [www.normanborlaug.org image 170x240]
Norman Borlaug should be on this list, instead of Steve Jobs.


The man responsible for our exploding world population? Carl Jerassi then, along with Phil Harvey.
 
2012-07-26 10:36:50 PM

Darth_Lukecash: Tesla work was stolen or fought off by Marconi and Edison, If Einstein was included, so should Tesla because he became an American as well.


That's my point. Edison and Marconi were mooks riding Tesla's sexy cranial lobes. And Tesla did more for daily science than Einstein, who was a theoretical physicist. In 2012, we still don't see any Einstein influence in our day to day life, even though it's lynchpinning the framework of certain fields. Tesla's work, on the other hand, is allowing us to post online RIGHT NOW. Without him, none of this is possible.
 
2012-07-26 10:49:08 PM

GAT_00: What in the fark is Steve Jobs doing on that list for?


This.

There are countless people more influential in the course of American history than Jobs. Bill Gates comes to mind. Also, was Einstein really "American"? He was a US citizen for the last 15 years of his life, which lasted for 76 years. You might as well put von Braun on the list.

Hell, where's Carnegie on that list? LaGuardia? Jonas Salk?
 
2012-07-26 10:49:57 PM

GAT_00: What in the fark is Steve Jobs doing on that list for?


Considering that the tech world followed behind whatever he did, he should be on that list.
 
2012-07-26 10:59:38 PM
I've always felt that James Madison never got the credit he deserves for the structure of our government (no matter how good or bad you think of it) and the first Ten Amendments that he deserves. I'd definitely have him in the top 20, maybe even top 10 (obviously)
 
2012-07-26 11:02:39 PM

cman: GAT_00: What in the fark is Steve Jobs doing on that list for?

Considering that the tech world followed behind whatever he did, he should be on that list.


Steve Jobs has only been a major influence for a decade. His influence from his first stint at Apple is negligible. Bill Gates has been a force for two decades.

And they are both completely blown out of the water by Norman Borlaug, as already mentioned. It's just Apple pandering.

Sid_6.7: Also, was Einstein really "American"? He was a US citizen for the last 15 years of his life, which lasted for 76 years. You might as well put von Braun on the list.


Einstein doesn't have basically an entire city named after him. Every fourth building in Huntsville is named for von Braun. But the argument that excludes Einstein also has to exclude Sacagawea and Sitting Bull, and really George Washington and Thomas Jefferson. None of the four of them were born Americans.
 
2012-07-26 11:11:08 PM

GAT_00: cman: GAT_00: What in the fark is Steve Jobs doing on that list for?

Considering that the tech world followed behind whatever he did, he should be on that list.

Steve Jobs has only been a major influence for a decade. His influence from his first stint at Apple is negligible. Bill Gates has been a force for two decades.

And they are both completely blown out of the water by Norman Borlaug, as already mentioned. It's just Apple pandering.

Sid_6.7: Also, was Einstein really "American"? He was a US citizen for the last 15 years of his life, which lasted for 76 years. You might as well put von Braun on the list.

Einstein doesn't have basically an entire city named after him. Every fourth building in Huntsville is named for von Braun. But the argument that excludes Einstein also has to exclude Sacagawea and Sitting Bull, and really George Washington and Thomas Jefferson. None of the four of them were born Americans.


Yes, the Apple Lisa and Macintosh did not influence anything in the 1980s. It did not show Bill Gates that GUI was the future. Bill Gates had pretty much no idea what was going on in Xerox, but Apple did. They saw it, and they knew they needed it. Neither did the Apple II, which put the BASIC programming language as a standard part of 8 bit computers. Nor did NExT influence a generation of computer graphic design.
 
2012-07-26 11:19:20 PM

ArkAngel: A list that includes Muhammad Ali and Louis Armstrong and doesn't include Blackjack Pershing, Dwight Eisenhower, or Douglas Macarthur fails


Gotta kinda agree, but I don't have a worldly perspective. Apparently Muhammed Ali was a pretty important American outside America. And fairly important here.
 
2012-07-26 11:24:35 PM
Susan B. Anthony was NOT on the list, subtard, although it made more sense for her to be there than Steve Jobs.
He's dead. You can stop sucking his dick fanboys, he won't suck yours back anyways.
 
2012-07-26 11:25:09 PM

SoxSweepAgain: ArkAngel: A list that includes Muhammad Ali and Louis Armstrong and doesn't include Blackjack Pershing, Dwight Eisenhower, or Douglas Macarthur fails

Gotta kinda agree, but I don't have a worldly perspective. Apparently Muhammed Ali was a pretty important American outside America. And fairly important here.


I think I may have to disagree with you for the simple reason of respect.

There are a lot of white guys on that list. It is easier for white people to get appreciated by everyone. But, for a black muslim to be respected by the white population in his time was unheard of. He transcended race and became an important American icon.
 
2012-07-26 11:30:41 PM

djkutch: Peter von Nostrand: Listed chronologically:

George Washington
Thomas Jefferson
Sacagawea, Meriwether Lewis and William Clark
Abraham Lincoln
Sitting Bull
Alexander G. Bell
Thomas Edison
Henry Ford
Wright Brothers
Margaret Sanger
Albert Einstein
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Louis Armstrong
James Watson
Martin Luther King Jr.
Muhammad Ali
Steve Jobs

All of them are libs.


Lincoln was a Republican, libtard!!

/I didn't see any FARK "conservatives" in the thread, so I thought I'd help them out.
 
2012-07-26 11:33:02 PM

cman: GAT_00: What in the fark is Steve Jobs doing on that list for?

Considering that the tech world followed behind whatever he did, he should be on that list.


I respect Jobs as much as the next tech nerd, but he doesn't belong on the same list as Bell, Edison, and Einstein.
 
2012-07-26 11:33:10 PM

Lionel Mandrake: djkutch: Peter von Nostrand: Listed chronologically:

George Washington
Thomas Jefferson
Sacagawea, Meriwether Lewis and William Clark
Abraham Lincoln
Sitting Bull
Alexander G. Bell
Thomas Edison
Henry Ford
Wright Brothers
Margaret Sanger
Albert Einstein
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Louis Armstrong
James Watson
Martin Luther King Jr.
Muhammad Ali
Steve Jobs

All of them are libs.

Lincoln was a Republican, libtard!!

/I didn't see any FARK "conservatives" in the thread, so I thought I'd help them out.


To be fair, 1860 Republicans would be seen as pretty damn liberal today. He said "libs", not "Democrats"
 
2012-07-26 11:34:42 PM

RexTalionis: [www.normanborlaug.org image 170x240]
Norman Borlaug should be on this list, instead of Steve Jobs.


THIS
instead of well almost all of them ...
certainly replace watson and jobs with borlaug !!
 
2012-07-26 11:39:59 PM

teto85: RexTalionis: [www.normanborlaug.org image 170x240]
Norman Borlaug should be on this list, instead of Steve Jobs.

The man responsible for our exploding world population? Carl Jerassi then, along with Phil Harvey.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
so feeding the starving = exploding population? bwhahahahha I love it
Unintended consequences!!!

but that would exclude everyone from the list. Democracy kills less peasants, so get rid of the US presidents.
Science leads to cures for diseases, so get rid of all the scientists/inventors.

LOLOLOLOL
 
2012-07-26 11:40:22 PM

cman: Lionel Mandrake: djkutch: Peter von Nostrand: Listed chronologically:

George Washington
Thomas Jefferson
Sacagawea, Meriwether Lewis and William Clark
Abraham Lincoln
Sitting Bull
Alexander G. Bell
Thomas Edison
Henry Ford
Wright Brothers
Margaret Sanger
Albert Einstein
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Louis Armstrong
James Watson
Martin Luther King Jr.
Muhammad Ali
Steve Jobs

All of them are libs.

Lincoln was a Republican, libtard!!

/I didn't see any FARK "conservatives" in the thread, so I thought I'd help them out.

To be fair, 1860 Republicans would be seen as pretty damn liberal today. He said "libs", not "Democrats"


That's my point. I was mocking the people who defend "conservatism" by saying "A Republican freed the slaves!!" or "MLK was a Republican!" The type that doesn't know the difference between party and ideology.

It happens a lot around here.
 
2012-07-26 11:43:25 PM

Lionel Mandrake: cman: Lionel Mandrake: djkutch: Peter von Nostrand: Listed chronologically:

George Washington
Thomas Jefferson
Sacagawea, Meriwether Lewis and William Clark
Abraham Lincoln
Sitting Bull
Alexander G. Bell
Thomas Edison
Henry Ford
Wright Brothers
Margaret Sanger
Albert Einstein
Franklin D. Roosevelt
Louis Armstrong
James Watson
Martin Luther King Jr.
Muhammad Ali
Steve Jobs

All of them are libs.

Lincoln was a Republican, libtard!!

/I didn't see any FARK "conservatives" in the thread, so I thought I'd help them out.

To be fair, 1860 Republicans would be seen as pretty damn liberal today. He said "libs", not "Democrats"

That's my point. I was mocking the people who defend "conservatism" by saying "A Republican freed the slaves!!" or "MLK was a Republican!" The type that doesn't know the difference between party and ideology.

It happens a lot around here.


That was my bad. I should have seen your post as satire. I may not be dumb but I am blind
 
2012-07-26 11:50:59 PM

Sid_6.7: GAT_00: What in the fark is Steve Jobs doing on that list for?

This.

There are countless people more influential in the course of American history than Jobs. Bill Gates comes to mind. Also, was Einstein really "American"? He was a US citizen for the last 15 years of his life, which lasted for 76 years. You might as well put von Braun on the list.

Hell, where's Carnegie on that list? LaGuardia? Jonas Salk?


You'll have to buy the book.
 
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