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2012-07-26 10:03:34 AM
Nancy Grace nipple sighting?
 
2012-07-26 10:25:19 AM
As a rule, I sustain my girlish figure at Disney World through a diet consisting of only Mickey Mouse ice cream bars and sammiches. Mmmmmmmm.
 
2012-07-26 10:29:57 AM
News flash: animals aren't clean. Poop is everywhere. Wash your farking hands and stop touching your face.
 
2012-07-26 11:40:11 AM

Jake Havechek: Nancy Grace nipple sighting?


I like you and all, but that deserves the ban hammer.
 
2012-07-26 12:05:58 PM
Interesting.

I've done that tour. Back in May, actually.

I'm not sure what could cause that kind of issue... the food could be an issue (at about the 2/3 mark, you get a small meal of African based foods... ours was quite tasty). Then again, they have water coolers at various points where you can top off a (provided, yours to keep) water bottle, and it could well be that something got into there.

You don't ever interact with the animals- they may be close to the vehicles, but you're just not within arm's reach, and sanitizer and hand washing facilities are provided.
 
2012-07-26 12:08:31 PM
Dysentery World?
 
2012-07-26 12:10:06 PM
Is it the german scheisse porn Roseanne Barr did before she made it big?
 
2012-07-26 12:11:38 PM
ah, another fun day after a waffle house breakfast.
 
2012-07-26 12:15:13 PM
Rumack: Extremely serious. It starts with a slight fever and dryness of the throat. When the virus penetrates the red blood cells, the victim becomes dizzy, begins to experience an itchy rash, then the poison goes to work on the central nervous system, severe muscle spasms followed by the inevitable grueling.

[Oveur does all of the above as Rumack describes each one]

Rumack: At this point, the entire digestive system collapses accompanied by uncontrollable flatulence

[Oveur begins to fart uncontrollably]

Rumack: Until finally, the poor bastard is reduced to a quivering wasted piece of jelly
 
2012-07-26 12:15:33 PM
When work crews pulled open a broken BART escalator at San Francisco's Civic Center Station last month, they found so much human excrement in its works they had to call a hazardous-materials team.


http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Human-waste-shuts-down-BART-esc a lators-3735981.php
 
2012-07-26 12:15:59 PM
What better way to get a real African experience than being in an epidemic?
 
2012-07-26 12:16:12 PM
I wonder if they have fountains anywhere, especially in any of the animal enclosures?

There are some bacterias in water that can become airborn with a fine mist from a fountain, and they thrive in very warm water. The pump finely aerates the water, the fountain sprays it into the air, and people in surrounding areas can breathe it in. It's not completely uncommon for outbreaks like this to happen in summer months when the water is a great breeding ground for bacteria, and the water mist also stays airborn longer, possibly travels a longer distance, because of the air temperature.
If a decorative fountain isn't cleaned enough, or the levels of chlorine drop too far, the bacteria get out of control.
If the fountain is in an animal enclosure, of course it's not going to be as clean, so pumps and fountains that create a fine mist are a terrible choice for such a place.

I remember an article on here some time ago about a similar incidence, related to a fountain in a mall (I think it was a mall. Anyway it was some similar indoor area.). The mall had to refill the fountain, make sure it was properly chlorinated or whatever, and put a different pump and fountain that didn't spray such a fine mist into the air.
 
2012-07-26 12:16:52 PM
I can just about guarantee that it was either in the food or got in the food from the hands of people who touched something that was contaminated (like a railing, door handle, or whatever). Salmonella from bird droppings most likely. That stuff gets all over everything outside and often you can't see it.
 
2012-07-26 12:16:54 PM
Next year, the Wild Africa Trek will be upgraded to include malaria.
 
2012-07-26 12:18:57 PM
"Symptoms were nausea, diarrhea, abdominal pain, and in some cases vomiting."

Funny, that's my reaction to everything Disney. But they left out crossing eyes, muscular tension and splitting headche.

Ain't one of their characters called Fluto?
 
2012-07-26 12:23:05 PM
Mrs. Geline: I haven't felt this awful since we saw that Ronald Reagan film.
 
2012-07-26 12:23:47 PM

vodka: I can just about guarantee that it was either in the food or got in the food from the hands of people who touched something that was contaminated (like a railing, door handle, or whatever). Salmonella from bird droppings most likely. That stuff gets all over everything outside and often you can't see it.


Article said the restaurant was tested. Though perhaps that was a certain non-hygienic cook that was preparing food that specific day, and wasn't there the day they tested.

I could also see contaminated bird droppings on surfaces causing illness, but that should be pretty easy to figure out.

I find it a bit odd that none of these people went to the doctor and had a test done that showed anything. If it was salmonella, or something else common like that, I'd think that would be pretty easy to identify.
 
2012-07-26 12:25:26 PM
Captain Oveur: What is it, Doctor? What's going on?

Rumack: I'm not sure. I haven't seen anything like this since the Anita Bryant concert.
 
2012-07-26 12:28:45 PM
This is apparently what I was thinking of:

Legionella

Though iirc there are other bacterias that can be transferred in the same manner.
 
2012-07-26 12:31:06 PM

Ihaveanevilparrot: I could also see contaminated bird droppings on surfaces causing illness, but that should be pretty easy to figure out.


The thing is, you're never really doing anything where birds have obviously been crapping. Even the dining area is covered and kept very clean.
 
2012-07-26 12:34:54 PM

akula: Ihaveanevilparrot: I could also see contaminated bird droppings on surfaces causing illness, but that should be pretty easy to figure out.

The thing is, you're never really doing anything where birds have obviously been crapping. Even the dining area is covered and kept very clean.


That's why I was thinking the above.

The wiki article states that it's been shown to travel up to 6km from the source, as demonstrated by an outbreak in france. And the symptoms are very similar to that described in the article. This time of year would be a great environment for such an outbreak since it apparently becomes most likely when water rises above 78 degrees.
 
2012-07-26 12:38:31 PM

Ihaveanevilparrot: akula: Ihaveanevilparrot: I could also see contaminated bird droppings on surfaces causing illness, but that should be pretty easy to figure out.

The thing is, you're never really doing anything where birds have obviously been crapping. Even the dining area is covered and kept very clean.

That's why I was thinking the above.

The wiki article states that it's been shown to travel up to 6km from the source, as demonstrated by an outbreak in france. And the symptoms are very similar to that described in the article. This time of year would be a great environment for such an outbreak since it apparently becomes most likely when water rises above 78 degrees.


Yeah, I don't remember any particular fountains anywhere, but you are in the enclosure with the hippos (well above them, but there's nothing between you) and those things are notorious for spraying feces. I wonder if maybe that thing sprayed something and it wasn't noticed or cleaned properly.

Either way, it's a hell of a memory to take with you from a $150 tour.
 
2012-07-26 12:41:34 PM
akula:

Either way, it's a hell of a memory to take with you from a $150 tour.

People stupid enough to give Disney that much money deserve a few days in the john.
 
2012-07-26 12:42:11 PM
For my 5th birthday, my mom planned out taking me to Disney. We were dirt poor, so she started saving months in advance. She called for ticket prices, figured in gas, and planned on sandwiches to eat on the way there and bottled water for us to drink.

Problem: got there and parking was $12, which she never figured in. Her only credit card was American Express, which they didn't take at that time. So they left me at the gate with a security guy and took her to a bank within the park to see if they would accept the American Express there.

Needless to say, all I got out of the trip was sitting in the hot sun starring at all the other kids being happy in the park for two hours then two hours home, with my mom sobbing most of the way, which of course made me feel guilty even though I hadn't even asked to go to begin with.

So, let 'em get dysentery ;P

/not bitter, really
//Universal Studios a few months later went MUCH better, AND there were no creepy mice crawling around
 
2012-07-26 12:43:19 PM

akula: Yeah, I don't remember any particular fountains anywhere, but you are in the enclosure with the hippos (well above them, but there's nothing between you) and those things are notorious for spraying feces. I wonder if maybe that thing sprayed something and it wasn't noticed or cleaned properly.


Hmmm. Most parks I go to have some kind of decorative fountain. Doesn't have to be big to cause an issue. I also know that fish tanks can cause the same issues with the right filtration system, such as a wet/dry sump.

I dunno about the hippos spraying anything, but there may be some kind of filtration system for them nearby hidden from view that might be able to aerate the water sufficiently.

The wiki article also mentions commercial central air systems, so I wonder if one in the restaurant could be to blame.
 
2012-07-26 12:51:20 PM

Ihaveanevilparrot: The wiki article also mentions commercial central air systems, so I wonder if one in the restaurant could be to blame.


Nope, it's an open air patio. And if it were a fountain elsewhere in the park I'd expect other people not on the tour to have had the issue as well.

The One True TheDavid: People stupid enough to give Disney that much money deserve a few days in the john.


Whatever. Disney isn't cheap, but if you can't have a good time there the problem is on your end. The tours are a nice add on that give a bit of an extra experience if you wish to spend the coin. I don't see too many people complaining about the Wild Africa Trek not being worth it.
 
2012-07-26 12:51:30 PM
Hmmm. I thought Rick Scott dismantled the Department of Health in Florida.

/don't laugh

//still one of his "works in progress"
 
2012-07-26 12:51:41 PM

Ihaveanevilparrot: I wonder if they have fountains anywhere, especially in any of the animal enclosures?

There are some bacterias in water that can become airborn with a fine mist from a fountain, and they thrive in very warm water. The pump finely aerates the water, the fountain sprays it into the air, and people in surrounding areas can breathe it in. It's not completely uncommon for outbreaks like this to happen in summer months when the water is a great breeding ground for bacteria, and the water mist also stays airborn longer, possibly travels a longer distance, because of the air temperature.
If a decorative fountain isn't cleaned enough, or the levels of chlorine drop too far, the bacteria get out of control.
If the fountain is in an animal enclosure, of course it's not going to be as clean, so pumps and fountains that create a fine mist are a terrible choice for such a place.

I remember an article on here some time ago about a similar incidence, related to a fountain in a mall (I think it was a mall. Anyway it was some similar indoor area.). The mall had to refill the fountain, make sure it was properly chlorinated or whatever, and put a different pump and fountain that didn't spray such a fine mist into the air.


Interesting. I don't know about that particular location, but Disney World has misters installed all over the place, to provide comfort to tourists when the weather is really hot.
 
2012-07-26 12:59:02 PM
and a tasting of African-inspired foods on a savannah.

So they ate takeout from an Ethiopian place?
 
2012-07-26 01:11:32 PM
www.unc.edu

I haven't felt this sick since we saw that Ronald Reagan film.
 
2012-07-26 03:15:03 PM
I've got the same bug right now and I live in St Augustine. That's over 120 miles away so I think it's the State of Florida making people sick. The whole place is a shiathole IMO.
 
2012-07-26 03:37:43 PM
Either way, it's a hell of a memory to take with you from a $150 tour.

Uh...it's actually $189 minimum.
 
2012-07-26 03:40:30 PM

Jake Havechek: Captain Oveur: What is it, Doctor? What's going on?

Rumack: I'm not sure. I haven't seen anything like this since the Anita Bryant concert.


They should have had the lasagna.
 
2012-07-26 04:04:08 PM

clanc43: What better way to get a real African experience than being in an epidemic?


President Madigascar is not amused.
 
2012-07-26 04:48:18 PM
and they got the ONE giraffe there who looks so farking gay. wtf are there girafees doing in orlando
 
2012-07-26 05:04:07 PM
I am shocked - shocked! - that after visiting a theme park filled with little kids from all over the world, people may catch a disease or three.
 
2012-07-26 06:08:29 PM

Whole Wheat: As a rule, I sustain my girlish figure at Disney World through a diet consisting of only Mickey Mouse ice cream bars and sammiches. Mmmmmmmm.


I would kill a man for a Micky waffle right about now. Those things are quite heavenly.

/went to Disney two years ago and it wasnt terrible.
//taking the little crotch fruit again in feb.
 
2012-07-26 09:39:38 PM

GATORinaZ28: Either way, it's a hell of a memory to take with you from a $150 tour.

Uh...it's actually $189 minimum.


Yeah, I didn't remember how much it was.

MaxSupernova: I would kill a man for a Micky waffle right about now. Those things are quite heavenly.


Screw the Mickey waffle, I'm on Team Mickey Ice Cream Bar.
 
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