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2012-07-26 10:03:14 AM
Poop thread?
 
2012-07-26 10:03:33 AM
Ok, I didn't know what Google Fiber even meant.
Here is some more information for the less informed, such as myself:

Link
 
2012-07-26 10:03:50 AM
Any insights on this?
 
2012-07-26 10:04:48 AM
Oooh...Podunk, Nowhere is getting fast intertubes! Very exciting.
 
2012-07-26 10:05:15 AM

HellRaisingHoosier: Ok, I didn't know what Google Fiber even meant.
Here is some more information for the less informed, such as myself:

Link


Ah, well, considering the article about metered broadband, frankly I hope Google starts laying out the fiber and offers a unlimited plan for internet for the right price, I'd subscribe.
 
2012-07-26 10:08:11 AM
Is it coming to where I live? No? Well I don't give a fark.
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2012-07-26 10:08:13 AM
They bought the naming rights to Morgellons?
 
2012-07-26 10:10:13 AM
Wow Google's going all out to collect information about my porn habits.
 
2012-07-26 10:10:49 AM
The article kind of nailed it. The infrastructure upgrade is nice, but cable companies have a monopoly because they operate "The last 10 yards", or all the wiring that goes to an individual house. Google would have to go to each house and lay their own wiring. For businesses or large city apartments it's do-able and sounds awesome.

I'm sure the local ISP's are still pissed.
 
2012-07-26 10:12:02 AM
I guess Google got sick and tried of waiting for the Government to upgrade infrastructure.
 
2012-07-26 10:12:58 AM
Hoping it's a revolution for the cable/sat industry. They deserve to roast... all of them. And I would think Google could be profitable while going back to their roots: innovation without big brother.
 
2012-07-26 10:13:40 AM

HellRaisingHoosier: The article kind of nailed it. The infrastructure upgrade is nice, but cable companies have a monopoly because they operate "The last 10 yards", or all the wiring that goes to an individual house. Google would have to go to each house and lay their own wiring. For businesses or large city apartments it's do-able and sounds awesome.

I'm sure the local ISP's are still pissed.


I wonder if Google would go wireless for last 10 yards?
 
2012-07-26 10:14:48 AM
I'm hopefully optimistic at what this could mean.

/Fiber one just wasn't cutting it anymore.
 
2012-07-26 10:15:24 AM

Hollie Maea: Oooh...Podunk, Nowhere is getting fast intertubes! Very exciting.


People should watch this experiment closly. It's not the first time its been done, but it's one of the first time it's been done by a private industry with a considerable amount of money. There are a good handful of cities in the U.S. who run their own local ISP's and the cable companies are doing everything in their power to shut them down and silence them. Like most things, while private enterprise is nice, local government can usually find a way to make it more efficient, cheaper and over-all very strong. Unfortunately politics comes into play and the nice government things we have get torn down ... but no there is no excuse to not allow another private entity to take a stab.
 
2012-07-26 10:17:17 AM
 
2012-07-26 10:18:39 AM

physt:
I wonder if Google would go wireless for last 10 yards?




It would be nice. They have a city-wide WiFi in Mountain View, CA where Google operates. However, I don't think that is their intention ... but who knows until Noon.

"Google turned down the [ Kansas City Wifi ] co-op idea about a month ago, saying it amounted to a resale service that didn't meet the company's planned licensing requirements."
 
2012-07-26 10:19:05 AM

HellRaisingHoosier: Like most things, while private enterprise is nice, local government can usually find a way to make it more efficient, cheaper and over-all very strong.


It's not really private enterprise, it's just monopolies. When your choices are Comcast broadband or NetZero dial-up, you're left bending over for Comcast no matter how bad they are. More competition will lead to better service for the consumer.
 
2012-07-26 10:19:59 AM

shortymac: I guess Google got sick and tried of waiting for the Government to upgrade infrastructure wants ALL the information on your surfing habits so they can sell ads.


FTFY. They're an ad agency, basically. That's where they make most of their money and that's all they really give a shiat about.
 
2012-07-26 10:20:01 AM

GBmanNC: Is it coming to where I live? No? Well I don't give a fark.


Coming to where I live, hell yes I give a fark!
 
2012-07-26 10:21:15 AM
Gigabit internet...drool.
 
2012-07-26 10:23:09 AM
That's gonna be a real crappy event stream
 
2012-07-26 10:27:50 AM
Hmm, from somewhere else the test report calls it an IP-set top box, equipped with WiFi, IR, USB, Ethernet, HDMI input and output and an Ethernet / coax (we assume MoCA?) bridge

www.blogcdn.com

So, doing the smart thing and combining my wifi router and STB in one box so I don't have to split the cable. Also raises the possibility that the Google TV device that flopped a year or two ago might have a rebirth.

/Now Kansas City can watch YouTube cat videos in HD on their big screens.
 
2012-07-26 10:27:54 AM

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: HellRaisingHoosier: Like most things, while private enterprise is nice, local government can usually find a way to make it more efficient, cheaper and over-all very strong.

It's not really private enterprise, it's just monopolies. When your choices are Comcast broadband or NetZero dial-up, you're left bending over for Comcast no matter how bad they are. More competition will lead to better service for the consumer.



My understanding is that local government became the "Comcast monopoly" of those areas. The only difference being that because it was government run all operating costs and data performance were public knowledge so citizens could see they weren't getting the shaft. Because when you're talking about huge a corporation you have advertising and executive bonuses, which adds a lot to cost. Essentially local government was a monopoly, but it became a monopoly because private business wasn't willing to cut their own costs so they just left town.

People have been fooled into thinking ISP's use their own money for research development and deployment. It's simply not true, that's all taxpayer money. Billions upon billions of dollars. We the taxpayer invented it, upgraded it, and deployed it ... then just handed it over.
 
2012-07-26 10:29:18 AM

HellRaisingHoosier: The article kind of nailed it. The infrastructure upgrade is nice, but cable companies have a monopoly because they operate "The last 10 yards", or all the wiring that goes to an individual house. Google would have to go to each house and lay their own wiring. For businesses or large city apartments it's do-able and sounds awesome.

I'm sure the local ISP's are still pissed.


As a KC-metro resident it is my sad duty to inform you that the existing monopoly/duopoly can eat the biggest bag of dicks EVER. I can get 20down/1up from TWC for $40 or 768k/128k from AT&T for $30. Those numbers plummet when people are actually at home. There is simply no competition. While Google's promised Gb up/down would be awesome, I am just happy that there will be another player.
 
2012-07-26 10:38:49 AM

HellRaisingHoosier: The article kind of nailed it. The infrastructure upgrade is nice, but cable companies have a monopoly because they operate "The last 10 yards", or all the wiring that goes to an individual house. Google would have to go to each house and lay their own wiring. For businesses or large city apartments it's do-able and sounds awesome.

I'm sure the local ISP's are still pissed.


From my understanding, that's exactly what Google is planning to do. Now KC is obviously a testbed, so I'm not expecting Google to start a nation-wide rollout anytime in the next decade, but I do see this as a potential precursor to direct-to-home fiber being offered elsewhere in the nation. It's really the only long-term option that the cable companies have. They're going to feel a pretty significant consumer backlash if they go with the tiered pricing plans they've been testing already, which will open the door for someone like Google to move in, drop their own fiber, and run it directly into homes.

Unfortunately, the big ISP's like Time-Warner didn't learn what those of us in the industry learned in the 90's. Tiered pricing structures don't work. Users don't want to have to monitor their bandwidth, and then stop using the Internet if they get close to the limit to avoid additional fees. We did it with dial-up and the moment we offered a more expensive but unlimited plan, our customers were ecstatic. Trying to go backwards is going to bite these guys in the ass.
 
2012-07-26 10:44:03 AM

El Freak: shortymac: I guess Google got sick and tried of waiting for the Government to upgrade infrastructure wants ALL the information on your surfing habits so they can sell ads.

FTFY. They're an ad agency, basically. That's where they make most of their money and that's all they really give a shiat about.


Browser Add-Ons are your friend
 
2012-07-26 11:10:29 AM
HellRaisingHoosier:
The article kind of nailed it. The infrastructure upgrade is nice, but cable companies have a monopoly because they operate "The last 10 yards", or all the wiring that goes to an individual house.

The reason most cable companies have local monopolies is because the local governments created the monopoly and enforced it.

You see, back when cable TV was just getting started, local governments controlled the local infrastructure. So they took bids to see who would get to put their wires in the ground - or on local telephone poles. The winning bidders got the monopoly.

As cable moved from a "master antenna" model to satellite-based distribution, the amount of hardware installed made it pretty much impossible for most companies to be able to bid into the systems - when you have to put a whole new set of hardware in, the immediate investment is pretty much impossible for all but the largest companies - who would rather just buy the company with the local monopoly.

There are exceptions, of course- but they're few and far between. The biggest threats to the cable-based internet providers are the phone companies (who have lots and lots of wire and fiber in place already) and the wireless data companies - not people like Google, who might have enough cash, but are looking at years and years of hardware installs to get the tech base in place.

The alternate scenario is for folks like Google to go to the various cable companies and offer them large piles of cash for parallel access to their current networks. A lot of them already have fiber to the curb - something like 95% of Orlando has fiber available, for example - and the only thing slowing higher speeds than the current 40 megabit top end is the hardware for routing (which is a massive cost).
 
2012-07-26 11:28:32 AM

madgonad:
As a KC-metro resident it is my sad duty to inform you that the existing monopoly/duopoly can eat the biggest bag of dicks EVER. I can get 20down/1up from TWC for $40 or 768k/128k from AT&T for $30. Those numbers plummet when people are actually at home. There is simply no competition. While Google's promised Gb up/down would be awesome, I am just happy that there will be another player.


I'm getting 10down/1up from TWC at about the same price. Those that are SE of the metro who are stuck with Comcast are equally hosed. And the small part of the metro with any sort of real competition from SureWest (nee Everest) isn't really much better.

I'm facing a huge moral decision here... on one hand, I live in KCMO now, so I should be able to get this soon, but on the other hand, my child will be going to school soon, and I'd also like to move to a decent school district... Sophie had an easier choice.
 
2012-07-26 11:29:08 AM
I wish that someone would enfibernate my rural area. Slow DSL is our only choice here.
 
2012-07-26 11:39:24 AM

El Freak: shortymac: I guess Google got sick and tried of waiting for the Government to upgrade infrastructure wants ALL the information on your surfing habits so they can sell ads.

FTFY. They're an ad agency, basically. That's where they make most of their money and that's all they really give a shiat about.


If they can get me fiber at reasonable prices without the drama I deal with from Time Warner, they can have that information.

/besides, all the important shiat goes through SSL
 
2012-07-26 11:44:05 AM
Surprised the Telcos and Cablecos didn't lobby to shut them down. Google needs Microsoft, Amazon and Apple to jump onboard to put the fire under the ISPs arses
 
2012-07-26 11:50:51 AM

physt: I wonder if Google would go wireless for last 10 yards?


That idea actually kind of intrigues me. I wonder what the upsides/downsides comparison looks like as far as cost and stability and what not.
 
2012-07-26 11:57:35 AM
The video stream is now showing an adorable little multicolored bunny.
 
2012-07-26 12:03:00 PM
Over 7000 people watching live. Not a bad audience.
 
2012-07-26 12:03:29 PM
Pretty cool car intro
 
2012-07-26 12:06:44 PM
Major public announcement about tech - and $2 worth of lighting for the video.

It's a shame Google doesn't have any money so they could afford some better equipment...
 
2012-07-26 12:08:32 PM
I'm pleasantly surprised that the CFO isn't a bad speaker. Accounting types are usually not good at this stuff.
 
2012-07-26 12:21:23 PM

Hollie Maea: Oooh...Podunk, Nowhere is getting fast intertubes! Very exciting.


Yes, Kansas City, MO/ KS is Podunk, Nowhere.

The place that:

Trades most of the wheat used in bread
Builds the most popular vehicle in the country (Ford F-150)
Is home to one of the four major telcos in the US that is also a major part of the internet backbone (Sprint)
Is home to the one the architectural/engineering firm that builds the majority of the world's sports stadiums (Populous)
Supplies the US military with the vast majority of its small arms ammunition (Lake City Ammunition Plant)
Produces the non-nuclear components for ICBMs (Kansas City Honeywell Plant)
Is home to the second-busiest freight rail yard in the country
Has more interstate highway miles per capita than anywhere else in the US
A metro area population of 2 million people...

is Podunk, Nowhere.

Are you really that stupid voluntarily, or do you drool and shiat yourself from a head injury? The second condition I can forgive, but being that stupid as a choice? That's just beyond fixing.
 
2012-07-26 12:22:34 PM

ReverendLoki: madgonad:
As a KC-metro resident it is my sad duty to inform you that the existing monopoly/duopoly can eat the biggest bag of dicks EVER. I can get 20down/1up from TWC for $40 or 768k/128k from AT&T for $30. Those numbers plummet when people are actually at home. There is simply no competition. While Google's promised Gb up/down would be awesome, I am just happy that there will be another player.

I'm getting 10down/1up from TWC at about the same price. Those that are SE of the metro who are stuck with Comcast are equally hosed. And the small part of the metro with any sort of real competition from SureWest (nee Everest) isn't really much better.

I'm facing a huge moral decision here... on one hand, I live in KCMO now, so I should be able to get this soon, but on the other hand, my child will be going to school soon, and I'd also like to move to a decent school district... Sophie had an easier choice.


Move to Kansas City, North. Park Hill and North Kansas City schools are good.
 
2012-07-26 12:26:01 PM
Confirmed: Google Fiber TV service.
 
2012-07-26 12:29:44 PM

Marine1: Yes, Kansas City, MO/ KS is Podunk, Nowhere.

The place that:

Trades most of the wheat used in bread
Builds the most popular vehicle in the country (Ford F-150)
Is home to one of the four major telcos in the US that is also a major part of the internet backbone (Sprint)
Is home to the one the architectural/engineering firm that builds the majority of the world's sports stadiums (Populous)
Supplies the US military with the vast majority of its small arms ammunition (Lake City Ammunition Plant)
Produces the non-nuclear components for ICBMs (Kansas City Honeywell Plant)
Is home to the second-busiest freight rail yard in the country
Has more interstate highway miles per capita than anywhere else in the US
A metro area population of 2 million people...

is Podunk, Nowhere.

Are you really that stupid voluntarily, or do you drool and shiat yourself from a head injury? The second condition I can forgive, but being that stupid as a choice? That's just beyond fixing.


Your jimmies sound rustled.
 
2012-07-26 12:30:59 PM
But is it wireless for final few yards?

That would be a game changer. Anything else is just FIOS/UVERSE with a prettier logo
 
2012-07-26 12:31:15 PM

Marine1: Hollie Maea: Oooh...Podunk, Nowhere is getting fast intertubes! Very exciting.

Yes, Kansas City, MO/ KS is Podunk, Nowhere.

The place that:

Trades most of the wheat used in bread
Builds the most popular vehicle in the country (Ford F-150)
Is home to one of the four major telcos in the US that is also a major part of the internet backbone (Sprint)
Is home to the one the architectural/engineering firm that builds the majority of the world's sports stadiums (Populous)
Supplies the US military with the vast majority of its small arms ammunition (Lake City Ammunition Plant)
Produces the non-nuclear components for ICBMs (Kansas City Honeywell Plant)
Is home to the second-busiest freight rail yard in the country
Has more interstate highway miles per capita than anywhere else in the US
A metro area population of 2 million people...

is Podunk, Nowhere.

Are you really that stupid voluntarily, or do you drool and shiat yourself from a head injury? The second condition I can forgive, but being that stupid as a choice? That's just beyond fixing.


ohhemad.jpg
 
2012-07-26 12:33:28 PM
It sounds like they're not just going after Bright House and Comcast, they're also targeting Netflix and Hulu.
 
2012-07-26 12:35:29 PM
I would dump Comcast in a microsecond for this.
 
2012-07-26 12:35:43 PM
They're actually going to lay fiber to every house.

My God.
 
2012-07-26 12:35:59 PM

Marine1: Hollie Maea: Oooh...Podunk, Nowhere is getting fast intertubes! Very exciting.

Yes, Kansas City, MO/ KS is Podunk, Nowhere.

The place that:

Trades most of the wheat used in bread
Builds the most popular vehicle in the country (Ford F-150)
Is home to one of the four major telcos in the US that is also a major part of the internet backbone (Sprint)
Is home to the one the architectural/engineering firm that builds the majority of the world's sports stadiums (Populous)
Supplies the US military with the vast majority of its small arms ammunition (Lake City Ammunition Plant)
Produces the non-nuclear components for ICBMs (Kansas City Honeywell Plant)
Is home to the second-busiest freight rail yard in the country
Has more interstate highway miles per capita than anywhere else in the US
A metro area population of 2 million people...

is Podunk, Nowhere.

Are you really that stupid voluntarily, or do you drool and shiat yourself from a head injury? The second condition I can forgive, but being that stupid as a choice? That's just beyond fixing.



It's not where I'm at.

Where am I? An area that is rich in engineers of all stripes and a world-class university in the area as well. Sadly, when Sprint first rolled out 4G service, they couldn't be bothered with this part of the state (also the most populous), either.

This announcement means NOTHING to me. They might as well as rolled it out in Japan.
 
2012-07-26 12:38:36 PM
tomWright:
But is it wireless for final few yards?


Nope. Fiber to the home.

Symmetric gigabit, though.

Each fiber-tv box has a wireless repeater, too.

The system remote is a Nexus 7 tablet computer.
 
2012-07-26 12:40:31 PM
And here come the hardware details:

Fiber modem/router that terminates the fiber cabe:
Four gigabit wired jacks, built-in wireless with guest network.
Whole-house DVR with 2TB of storage, record 8 shows simultaneously

Also a set-top box, about the size of a Roku, with Netflix and Youtube pre-installed.
With built-in Wifi to increase in-home coverage.

Nexus 7 tablet that serves as a remote.
 
2012-07-26 12:41:19 PM

crab66: I would dump Comcast in a microsecond for this.


You're so dial up.

I'd drop them in a Zettasecond
 
2012-07-26 12:41:43 PM

LesserEvil: Marine1: Hollie Maea: Oooh...Podunk, Nowhere is getting fast intertubes! Very exciting.

Yes, Kansas City, MO/ KS is Podunk, Nowhere.

The place that:

Trades most of the wheat used in bread
Builds the most popular vehicle in the country (Ford F-150)
Is home to one of the four major telcos in the US that is also a major part of the internet backbone (Sprint)
Is home to the one the architectural/engineering firm that builds the majority of the world's sports stadiums (Populous)
Supplies the US military with the vast majority of its small arms ammunition (Lake City Ammunition Plant)
Produces the non-nuclear components for ICBMs (Kansas City Honeywell Plant)
Is home to the second-busiest freight rail yard in the country
Has more interstate highway miles per capita than anywhere else in the US
A metro area population of 2 million people...

is Podunk, Nowhere.

Are you really that stupid voluntarily, or do you drool and shiat yourself from a head injury? The second condition I can forgive, but being that stupid as a choice? That's just beyond fixing.


It's not where I'm at.

Where am I? An area that is rich in engineers of all stripes and a world-class university in the area as well. Sadly, when Sprint first rolled out 4G service, they couldn't be bothered with this part of the state (also the most populous), either.

This announcement means NOTHING to me. They might as well as rolled it out in Japan.


Well, that's just the reality of this kind of thing. I agree it sucks. I'm not going off about that, though. More that the notion that Kansas City is Podunk. Can't spare an opportunity for nerd rage like that.
 
2012-07-26 12:42:16 PM
$300.00 for the initial home setup.
 
2012-07-26 12:43:03 PM

nyseattitude: $300.00 for the initial home setup.


I would write a check for that in a heartbeat.
 
2012-07-26 12:43:48 PM
$120.00 a month.

I've paid Comcast more than that for much less in the past.
 
2012-07-26 12:45:04 PM
Woo.. free Nexus 7...

$300 for a fiber install, $120/mo for TV and unlimited internet, sounds pretty good. $70 for internet only. Waiving installation fee to begin with.
 
2012-07-26 12:45:51 PM
$120 a month + $300 installation (Waived for 2 year contract) TV + Internet

$70 a month for internet + $300 installation (Waived for 2 year contract) Internet only

All internet is 1 Gigabit.

Jesus titty-farking christ, I would jump on this in a heartbeat and I have FIOS.

/Why wasn't Buffalo picked?!?!
//Oh yeah, cause it's a cess pool.
 
2012-07-26 12:46:29 PM
$120.00 a month for Gig, TV, 1 Terabyte cloud space, and they wave the $300.00 fee

$70.00 a month for 1Gig Internet
 
2012-07-26 12:47:25 PM
The "free 5 megabit internet for seven years as long as you pay for the $300 install" part is pretty nice too.
 
2012-07-26 12:48:53 PM

cirby: The "free 5 megabit internet for seven years as long as you pay for the $300 install" part is pretty nice too.


And they let you pay it at $25.00 a month too.
 
2012-07-26 12:49:24 PM
nyseattitude:
$120.00 a month for Gig, TV, 1 Terabyte cloud space, and they wave the $300.00 fee

$70.00 a month for 1Gig Internet


I'm paying almost exactly that much for TV + 40 megabit down/5 megabit up right now...

If they bring that in here, the decision is pretty much made.
 
2012-07-26 12:50:34 PM

cirby: The "free 5 megabit internet for seven years as long as you pay for the $300 install" part is pretty nice too.


Yeah, you would have a guaranteed internet connection to about the year 2020.

It's smart, too..because you know many will eventually buy one of the higher tiers and perhaps the price would go down as the customer base grows over time.
 
2012-07-26 12:50:38 PM
Hey Google...
www.myremoteradio.com
 
2012-07-26 12:51:16 PM

Cybernetic: $120.00 a month.

I've paid Comcast more than that for much less in the past.


Exactly. I pay $200 for TV and Internet on Charter. Being the "Ultra" speed tier, It was unmetered, until last November, when they imposed band caps on residential (I can get unmetered on business, for a quarter of the speed and 3 times the cost).

I'd pay $300 in a heartbeat for setup, and $120 a month. It would knock down my monthly expenses considerably.

Of course, I won't see Google wiring this area until 2025, so it's all moot.
 
2012-07-26 12:51:28 PM
What's the housing market look like in Kansas City?
 
2012-07-26 12:51:46 PM
Official website

Look at those pricing plans and all of what you get. Good Lord... they're giving this shiat away.

This... this is beautiful.
 
2012-07-26 12:51:47 PM

nyseattitude: $120.00 a month for Gig, TV, 1 Terabyte cloud space, and they wave the $300.00 fee

$70.00 a month for 1Gig Internet


i29.tinypic.com
 
2012-07-26 12:51:48 PM
I've had seven eight nerdgasms so far.
I can't be the only one right?
 
2012-07-26 12:52:34 PM

zvoidx: cirby: The "free 5 megabit internet for seven years as long as you pay for the $300 install" part is pretty nice too.

Yeah, you would have a guaranteed internet connection to about the year 2020.

It's smart, too..because you know many will eventually buy one of the higher tiers and perhaps the price would go down as the customer base grows over time.


Not to mention the added value of traffic inspection for building their demographic database. Google will seriously get A LOT of data about consumer habits this way they otherwise would not be able to get since the people who do this probably wouldn't have internet in the first place.
 
2012-07-26 12:53:23 PM
Is it bad that I'm getting misty-eyed?
 
2012-07-26 12:53:39 PM

cirby: nyseattitude:
$120.00 a month for Gig, TV, 1 Terabyte cloud space, and they wave the $300.00 fee

$70.00 a month for 1Gig Internet

I'm paying almost exactly that much for TV + 40 megabit down/5 megabit up right now...

If they bring that in here, the decision is pretty much made.


Exactly. I'm paying $13.00 for Digital TV and a 25/3 meg line via Comcast. I'd save $120.00 a year
 
2012-07-26 12:57:54 PM
Mmmm.. may have to go to Fric and Frac for lunch...

And yes, with a montage KC video, of course Len Dawson is going to find his way into it.

Also, pay $300 just for installation, and get free 5M down/1 M up for 7 years? Thats even a deal right there.
 
2012-07-26 12:59:38 PM
That sound you just heard was Time Warner, Comcast, AT&T U-verse, and Verizon FIOS collectively shiatting their pants.

I want this here, now, Google.

ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney.jpg
 
2012-07-26 12:59:45 PM
What's the local cable monopoly in KC? I bet they all just about shiat their pants.

/About time.
 
2012-07-26 01:02:05 PM
But the real question Google keeps dodging.. Is it faster than NetZero w/ Accelerator turned on? Yeah.. That's what I thought Google.. Nice try..
 
2012-07-26 01:02:13 PM

soopey: What's the local cable monopoly in KC? I bet they all just about shiat their pants.

/About time.


Depends on the area of the Metro you're in. Time Warner controls it up in Clay and Platte counties. Can't say for the rest of the area. I know Comcast has some of the pie in Kansas, though.
 
2012-07-26 01:03:48 PM
soopey:
What's the local cable monopoly in KC? I bet they all just about shiat their pants.

Especially when the mayors of KCK and KCMO both stepped up and spoke about how much they support it.
 
2012-07-26 01:04:27 PM
I see that people have already mentioned they would like Google to silence themselves and open avenues for monetary deposit.

Carry on then.
 
2012-07-26 01:07:30 PM
Here are the components:

Network box:
- Plugs into fiber jack for input. 1 Gb up and down
- Gigabit router with four 1 Gbit ethernet ports and highspeed WiFi
- Also plugs into coax for ethernet distribution throughout house

DVR Storage box:
- Plugs into coax
- 2 TB of storage
- 500 Hours of HD
- Record 8 channels at one time

TV Box:
- Plugs into coax
- HDMI out to TV
- 1 Gb Ethernet port
- WiFi Access Point

// Might have to move to KC...
 
2012-07-26 01:09:24 PM

rdu_voyager: Here are the components:

Network box:
- Plugs into fiber jack for input. 1 Gb up and down
- Gigabit router with four 1 Gbit ethernet ports and highspeed WiFi
- Also plugs into coax for ethernet distribution throughout house

DVR Storage box:
- Plugs into coax
- 2 TB of storage
- 500 Hours of HD
- Record 8 channels at one time

TV Box:
- Plugs into coax
- HDMI out to TV
- 1 Gb Ethernet port
- WiFi Access Point

// Might have to move to KC...


cdn.overclock.net
 
2012-07-26 01:12:43 PM
So, when can we expect to see Google offering this in other parts of the country?
 
2012-07-26 01:19:04 PM

Celerian: So, when can we expect to see Google offering this in other parts of the country?


There were a number of other cities vying for the first deployment, I imagine they would be up higher on the list to get it first.
 
2012-07-26 01:22:58 PM
up-ship.com
 
2012-07-26 01:27:29 PM

Marine1: soopey: What's the local cable monopoly in KC? I bet they all just about shiat their pants.

/About time.

Depends on the area of the Metro you're in. Time Warner controls it up in Clay and Platte counties. Can't say for the rest of the area. I know Comcast has some of the pie in Kansas, though.


Dunno about in Kansas, but Comcast has some of the eastern metro - Cass County, and maybe some of southern Lee's Summit. Main part of Lee's Summit is TWC.

SureWest (formerly Everest) moved into southern KC and Johnson County, and is the only area where you have two companies competing, but then again it's not much competition...
 
2012-07-26 01:29:34 PM

Hunter4242: Celerian: So, when can we expect to see Google offering this in other parts of the country?

There were a number of other cities vying for the first deployment, I imagine they would be up higher on the list to get it first.


This was the first I've heard of it. I do recall the town that changed its name to Google for publicity, but I didn't know that it was an attention grab to be selected. I would assume that the largest cities would see first deployment, so I expect to see it on the coasts and major population and business hubs across the US. I just didn't know if anyone knew if they had a definite schedule. I need something to look forward to.
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2012-07-26 01:33:00 PM
Doesn't include ESPN, AMC, or HBO. Enjoy watching Lifetime and Nick at Nite, suckers.
 
2012-07-26 01:33:49 PM

jbc: Doesn't include ESPN, AMC, or HBO. Enjoy watching Lifetime and Nick at Nite, suckers.


Who gives a fark about the TV service?
 
2012-07-26 01:36:53 PM

jbc: Doesn't include ESPN, AMC, or HBO. Enjoy watching Lifetime and Nick at Nite, suckers.


YET.
 
2012-07-26 01:44:14 PM

rdu_voyager: Here are the components:

Network box:
- Plugs into fiber jack for input. 1 Gb up and down
- Gigabit router with four 1 Gbit ethernet ports and highspeed WiFi
- Also plugs into coax for ethernet distribution throughout house

DVR Storage box:
- Plugs into coax
- 2 TB of storage
- 500 Hours of HD
- Record 8 channels at one time

TV Box:
- Plugs into coax
- HDMI out to TV
- 1 Gb Ethernet port
- WiFi Access Point

// Might have to move to KC...


Also comes with a Nexus 7 tablet.
Link to plans and pricing.
 
2012-07-26 01:47:39 PM
As long as I can get Pawn Stars and see what that rogue Chumply is up to, I'm fine.
 
2012-07-26 01:56:46 PM
Comcast throwing up now.
 
2012-07-26 02:08:41 PM

LarryDan43: Comcast throwing up now.


Seriously, this must be nauseating to cable company CEOs. It's gonna take decades but this is hopefully the start of their butt raping coming to an end.

Remember when everyone's email box was only a couple Mbs? Only took google a few years to completely change that.
 
2012-07-26 02:17:46 PM
fark YOU COMCAST AND BRIGHTHOUSE!
 
2012-07-26 02:19:36 PM

GBmanNC: LarryDan43: Comcast throwing up now.

Seriously, this must be nauseating to cable company CEOs. It's gonna take decades but this is hopefully the start of their butt raping coming to an end.

Remember when everyone's email box was only a couple Mbs? Only took google a few years to completely change that.


2 days ago Comcast announced a 305 Mbs service for $300 a month in the NE. Good luck with that.
 
2012-07-26 02:22:57 PM
So this is why they bought SageTV. Bring it here and you can have even more of my money.

/have a GNexus
//have a Nexus 7
 
2012-07-26 02:24:24 PM

nyseattitude: rdu_voyager: Here are the components:

Network box:
- Plugs into fiber jack for input. 1 Gb up and down
- Gigabit router with four 1 Gbit ethernet ports and highspeed WiFi
- Also plugs into coax for ethernet distribution throughout house

DVR Storage box:
- Plugs into coax
- 2 TB of storage
- 500 Hours of HD
- Record 8 channels at one time

TV Box:
- Plugs into coax
- HDMI out to TV
- 1 Gb Ethernet port
- WiFi Access Point

// Might have to move to KC...

Also comes with a Nexus 7 tablet.
Link to plans and pricing.


I didn't see it anywhere on the site, but at the beginning of the TV part of the presentation, they mentioned a regular-style TV remote that operates over bluetooth. Oh, and they also mentioned you could connect bluetooth headphones to the TV Box to watch TV with the speakers off.

The pricing page says it includes the boxes and Nexus 7, but I wonder if that pricing includes boxes for every TV in the house, or if they're extra. Definitely not a Nexus 7 for each TV for free, but maybe the regular one.

/ still, ShutUpAndTakeMyMoney.jpg
// uncontrollable drooling
 
2012-07-26 02:30:55 PM
img.chan4chan.com
 
2012-07-26 02:37:00 PM
Can't wait for this to come to SF. Google, please: my moneyz, you can take them.

Marine1: Hollie Maea: Oooh...Podunk, Nowhere is getting fast intertubes! Very exciting.

Yes, Kansas City, MO/ KS is Podunk, Nowhere.

The place that:

Trades most of the wheat used in bread
Builds the most popular vehicle in the country (Ford F-150)
Is home to one of the four major telcos in the US that is also a major part of the internet backbone (Sprint)
Is home to the one the architectural/engineering firm that builds the majority of the world's sports stadiums (Populous)
Supplies the US military with the vast majority of its small arms ammunition (Lake City Ammunition Plant)
Produces the non-nuclear components for ICBMs (Kansas City Honeywell Plant)
Is home to the second-busiest freight rail yard in the country
Has more interstate highway miles per capita than anywhere else in the US
A metro area population of 2 million people...

is Podunk, Nowhere.

Are you really that stupid voluntarily, or do you drool and shiat yourself from a head injury? The second condition I can forgive, but being that stupid as a choice? That's just beyond fixing.


The first place you went was "wheat." You lost the war before the first battle -- but then you went full redneck with pickup trucks and bullets, so, podunk. Also you have the miseries that are the Royals and the Chefs.

/who are the Chefs?
 
2012-07-26 02:38:42 PM
Dammit!! I live in Gladstone (a 'burb to KC) and we're not in the fiberhood yet!!! Why can't I have nice things?
 
2012-07-26 02:39:14 PM
I have FIOS at 82Mbit download speeds and you can only go as fast as the network you're downloading from. I have to download 4 things at once to fill up my bandwidth.
 
2012-07-26 02:39:47 PM

tagkc: Dammit!! I live in Gladstone (a 'burb to KC) and we're not in the fiberhood yet!!! Why can't I have nice things?


Time to move into the city limits!
 
2012-07-26 02:59:30 PM

YodaBlues: Hey Google...
[www.myremoteradio.com image 500x313]


Dear Google,

SHUT UP AND TAKE MY SWEET CANADIAN MONEY! IT'S AS GOOD AS REAL MONEY NOW!!!!!!

I swear team up with teksaavy or acanac and give bell/rogers a swift kick in the balls.
 
2012-07-26 03:00:42 PM

LarryDan43: GBmanNC: LarryDan43: Comcast throwing up now.

Seriously, this must be nauseating to cable company CEOs. It's gonna take decades but this is hopefully the start of their butt raping coming to an end.

Remember when everyone's email box was only a couple Mbs? Only took google a few years to completely change that.

2 days ago Comcast announced a 305 Mbs service for $300 a month in the NE. Good luck with that.


Only in areas where they are fighting with Verizon FIOS. Oh, and it'll cost you ~ $300 a month.
 
2012-07-26 03:12:31 PM

dkimball: I have FIOS at 82Mbit download speeds and you can only go as fast as the network you're downloading from. I have to download 4 things at once to fill up my bandwidth.


I want to have this problem.
 
2012-07-26 03:13:38 PM
Anyone know what other cities were in the running? They'll prob get it next.
 
2012-07-26 03:22:14 PM
One more here for the "Shut up and take my money/when do we get it here? (PDX)" crowd.

Plus it also means that my tablet decision is done. I'll be ordering a Nexus (yes, even with it's small issues) as soon as I can.
 
2012-07-26 03:24:51 PM
So the fact that I live in an apartment means I'm SOL?
 
2012-07-26 03:25:59 PM

HeartBurnKid: dkimball: I have FIOS at 82Mbit download speeds and you can only go as fast as the network you're downloading from. I have to download 4 things at once to fill up my bandwidth.

I want to have this problem.


Imagine with 1000Mbits/sec. Unless everything speeds up, it's like driving a drag car in NYC.
 
2012-07-26 03:32:09 PM

GBmanNC: LarryDan43: Comcast throwing up now.

Seriously, this must be nauseating to cable company CEOs. It's gonna take decades but this is hopefully the start of their butt raping coming to an end.

Remember when everyone's email box was only a couple Mbs? Only took google a few years to completely change that.


Uh, why would they? In most of the places they operate, they are legally protected from competition, and the only "competitor" is the local telco, who aren't about to let Google piggyback on their system either. Google has no way, in most markets, to actually reach the consumer's home or business without partnering with the local monopoly telco or cable provider - who have no reason to do that.
Under our current laws, cable companies can't be forced to let anybody piggyback - and telcos can only be forced to do it for competing long-distance providers - not local access.
 
2012-07-26 03:38:33 PM
We am now registered for Google Fiber. Supposedly we need x amount of "fiberhood" participants in order for our neighborhood to get service. Which is interesting because we are pretty sure they just built a substantial network node at the middle school near our house. Smells like marketing hype to get more test subjects to sign up...

I feel like a nerd.
 
2012-07-26 03:39:56 PM

dkimball: HeartBurnKid: dkimball: I have FIOS at 82Mbit download speeds and you can only go as fast as the network you're downloading from. I have to download 4 things at once to fill up my bandwidth.

I want to have this problem.

Imagine with 1000Mbits/sec. Unless everything speeds up, it's like driving a drag car in NYC.


Again, I want to have that problem. I want my connection to never be the bottleneck.
 
2012-07-26 03:41:13 PM

Marine1: Hollie Maea: Oooh...Podunk, Nowhere is getting fast intertubes! Very exciting.

Yes, Kansas City, MO/ KS is Podunk, Nowhere.

The place that:

Trades most of the wheat used in bread
Builds the most popular vehicle in the country (Ford F-150)
Is home to one of the four major telcos in the US that is also a major part of the internet backbone (Sprint)
Is home to the one the architectural/engineering firm that builds the majority of the world's sports stadiums (Populous)
Supplies the US military with the vast majority of its small arms ammunition (Lake City Ammunition Plant)
Produces the non-nuclear components for ICBMs (Kansas City Honeywell Plant)
Is home to the second-busiest freight rail yard in the country
Has more interstate highway miles per capita than anywhere else in the US
A metro area population of 2 million people...

is Podunk, Nowhere.

Are you really that stupid voluntarily, or do you drool and shiat yourself from a head injury? The second condition I can forgive, but being that stupid as a choice? That's just beyond fixing.


I've heard there are some pretty little women there. Do you think I could get me one?
 
2012-07-26 03:41:36 PM

endlessmonkeys: One more here for the "Shut up and take my money/when do we get it here? (PDX)" crowd.

Plus it also means that my tablet decision is done. I'll be ordering a Nexus (yes, even with it's small issues) as soon as I can.


You shouldn't need to purchase one. It looks like it is included with the Internet + TV combo.
 
2012-07-26 03:41:38 PM
We am, no really we am.
 
2012-07-26 03:45:28 PM

TheNewJesus: We am, no really we am.


Yes, you is.
 
2012-07-26 03:49:52 PM

Celerian: endlessmonkeys: One more here for the "Shut up and take my money/when do we get it here? (PDX)" crowd.

Plus it also means that my tablet decision is done. I'll be ordering a Nexus (yes, even with it's small issues) as soon as I can.

You shouldn't need to purchase one. It looks like it is included with the Internet + TV combo.


Unfortunately I don't live in KC or nearby (Portland). However, my thinking here is that having this allows me to eventually have more access ot the TV service.

/altho I have people in the KC area....
 
2012-07-26 04:00:57 PM
and it's CRAZY little women...

It am, really
 
2012-07-26 04:23:32 PM

jso2897: GBmanNC: LarryDan43: Comcast throwing up now.

Seriously, this must be nauseating to cable company CEOs. It's gonna take decades but this is hopefully the start of their butt raping coming to an end.

Remember when everyone's email box was only a couple Mbs? Only took google a few years to completely change that.

Uh, why would they? In most of the places they operate, they are legally protected from competition, and the only "competitor" is the local telco, who aren't about to let Google piggyback on their system either. Google has no way, in most markets, to actually reach the consumer's home or business without partnering with the local monopoly telco or cable provider - who have no reason to do that.
Under our current laws, cable companies can't be forced to let anybody piggyback - and telcos can only be forced to do it for competing long-distance providers - not local access.


they are running their own fiber. end to end. The only competition the fail telcos are providing is space on the poles.

Google just dropped a nuke on the current ISPs.When this news spreads, people are going to call up their providers and biatch (what do you mean I can only get 100Mb/s for 300$ a month? look at google!) The CEOs of Comcast/TW/ATT/Verizon/Cox/ et all just shiat their collective pants. They shiat each other pants.
 
2012-07-26 04:33:29 PM

SuperT: Google just dropped a nuke on the current ISPs.When this news spreads, people are going to call up their providers and biatch (what do you mean I can only get 100Mb/s for 300$ a month? look at google!) The CEOs of Comcast/TW/ATT/Verizon/Cox/ et all just shiat their collective pants. They shiat each other pants.


Two officers, one cup?
 
2012-07-26 04:45:05 PM

jst3p: SuperT: Google just dropped a nuke on the current ISPs.When this news spreads, people are going to call up their providers and biatch (what do you mean I can only get 100Mb/s for 300$ a month? look at google!) The CEOs of Comcast/TW/ATT/Verizon/Cox/ et all just shiat their collective pants. They shiat each other pants.

Two officers, one cup?


swap.ceo
 
2012-07-26 04:49:18 PM

TheNewJesus: and it's CRAZY little women...

It am, really


I prefer the old Jesus. At least when he spoke gibberish, it was in plain English.
 
2012-07-26 05:45:09 PM

rdu_voyager: Here are the components:

Network box:
- Plugs into fiber jack for input. 1 Gb up and down
- Gigabit router with four 1 Gbit ethernet ports and highspeed WiFi
- Also plugs into coax for ethernet distribution throughout house

DVR Storage box:
- Plugs into coax
- 2 TB of storage
- 500 Hours of HD
- Record 8 channels at one time

TV Box:
- Plugs into coax
- HDMI out to TV
- 1 Gb Ethernet port
- WiFi Access Point

// Might have to move to KC...


www.motifake.com
 
2012-07-26 05:58:14 PM

TheNewJesus: and it's CRAZY little women...

It am, really


Unless it's "Going to get my baby back home" (Beatles, Little Richard)
Or "baby where they don't allow you" (Jim Jackson)
Or "to bring Jim Jackson home/to make my man my own" (Janis Joplin)
 
2012-07-26 06:06:23 PM

Scrotastic Method: Can't wait for this to come to SF. Google, please: my moneyz, you can take them.

Marine1: Hollie Maea: Oooh...Podunk, Nowhere is getting fast intertubes! Very exciting.

Yes, Kansas City, MO/ KS is Podunk, Nowhere.

The place that:

Trades most of the wheat used in bread
Builds the most popular vehicle in the country (Ford F-150)
Is home to one of the four major telcos in the US that is also a major part of the internet backbone (Sprint)
Is home to the one the architectural/engineering firm that builds the majority of the world's sports stadiums (Populous)
Supplies the US military with the vast majority of its small arms ammunition (Lake City Ammunition Plant)
Produces the non-nuclear components for ICBMs (Kansas City Honeywell Plant)
Is home to the second-busiest freight rail yard in the country
Has more interstate highway miles per capita than anywhere else in the US
A metro area population of 2 million people...

is Podunk, Nowhere.

Are you really that stupid voluntarily, or do you drool and shiat yourself from a head injury? The second condition I can forgive, but being that stupid as a choice? That's just beyond fixing.

The first place you went was "wheat." You lost the war before the first battle -- but then you went full redneck with pickup trucks and bullets, so, podunk. Also you have the miseries that are the Royals and the Chefs.

/who are the Chefs?


Don't think wheat matters? Have fun starving, hippie. Not a lot of arable land out there in NoCal.

Oh, by the way, your city wouldn't exist if the "rednecks" hadn't gotten in wagons and left the modern Kansas City area to go out to your smug, overpriced, over-rated butthole of a town.
 
2012-07-26 06:57:11 PM

Marine1: Oh, by the way, your city wouldn't exist if the "rednecks" hadn't gotten in wagons and left the modern Kansas City area to go out to your smug, overpriced, over-rated butthole of a town.


Not true. It was Mexican Jesus-freaks that founded this town, white people just stole it sometime right before the Mexican-American war, long before the Gold rush brought Homesteaders westward (interesting how fast your part of the country became a rest stop instead of a settlement!). But we digress -- here's what Wikipedia says about SF:

Today, San Francisco is one of the top tourist destinations in the world, ranking 35th out of the 100 most visited cities worldwide...the city is also a primary banking and finance center, and more than 30 international financial institutions are based there, helping to make San Francisco rank 18th in the world's top producing cities, 8th in the United States, and 12th place in the top twenty global financial centers.

Farming, bullets, and broadband ain't exactly making this a competition. Niners > Chefs, Giants > Royals, we have money and technology and culture and you have, um, lots of highway mileage per person? Also, your women are fat and ours are amazing.
 
2012-07-26 08:03:08 PM

Scrotastic Method: Marine1: Oh, by the way, your city wouldn't exist if the "rednecks" hadn't gotten in wagons and left the modern Kansas City area to go out to your smug, overpriced, over-rated butthole of a town.

Not true. It was Mexican Jesus-freaks that founded this town, white people just stole it sometime right before the Mexican-American war, long before the Gold rush brought Homesteaders westward (interesting how fast your part of the country became a rest stop instead of a settlement!). But we digress -- here's what Wikipedia says about SF:

Today, San Francisco is one of the top tourist destinations in the world, ranking 35th out of the 100 most visited cities worldwide...the city is also a primary banking and finance center, and more than 30 international financial institutions are based there, helping to make San Francisco rank 18th in the world's top producing cities, 8th in the United States, and 12th place in the top twenty global financial centers.

Farming, bullets, and broadband ain't exactly making this a competition. Niners > Chefs, Giants > Royals, we have money and technology and culture and you have, um, lots of highway mileage per person? Also, your women are fat and ours are amazing.


phillips.blogs.com

What an amazing woman in San Francisco may look like.

All of that money and the best you guys can do for the less fortunate is give them a dog. Because that's what a homeless person needs. Not medical attention, not food, not shelter, not psychiatric attention... a responsibility. Nice to see what that banking center status is doing for them. But, hey, SF's a compassionate city, just ask these two:

farm4.staticflickr.com

I was one of those tourists that went to your town. It'd be nice if most of the people were removed. The rate of homelessness there is astounding. I say that as a guy who's been to St. Louis, Chicago, New York, Los Angeles, Raleigh-Durham, Las Vegas, Denver, Omaha, and Washington D.C.

Apparently, you've never used a Garmin GPS or GPS software. Company's based here. I could go on about our tech companies, but most of them develop products that wouldn't make sense to someone who has to breathe pot fumes all day. Without the Midwest and Kansas City (or 'Podunk') San Francisco would be a lone church building. Nothing more. That would have been the legacy of the area.

But you know what? We could forgive every bit of the insolence, if you guys weren't so. damned. proud. of your idiocy. I mean, really, what other town criticizes places like the Midwest for being underdeveloped and harsh when their citizens allow other human beings to live in their own filth in the streets? At least LA knows it has problems.

What's it say about San Francisco that they couldn't convince a company based nearby to choose them for a broadband network over Kansas City, MO/KS?
 
2012-07-26 08:47:15 PM
Dude I was just trolling you. Look how good it worked. I mean, you actually tried to argue that KC holds a candle to SF. Come on man. Let me know next time someone plans a honeymoon, vacation, business trip, picnic, anything really in Kansas City. Let me know next time you hear a teenager say, hey mom and dad, screw you, I'm moving to Kansas City where I can be me!

Before you get all high and mighty on homelessness, you are aware that KC has a significant problem as well right? Check it out: the 2011 census says there's about 463,000 people in Kansas City. The United States Conference of Mayors Hunger and Homelessness study says there are about 880-890 people on the streets every night. That's almost one for every 500 people. That sucks! I mean, it's so bad -- and getting worse -- that your mayor had to co-chair the damn task force. Here's all the data if you'd like, I pulled the headcounts from page 77:

http://www.usmayors.org/pressreleases/uploads/2011-hhreport.pdf

I'll give you that if you have a (roughly) 500:1 ratio, SF is looking at about 500:4. But, SF is a destination city for homelessness. Between all the free services, all the free healthcare, all the good weather, and all the good cheap drugs, we're homeless mecca. We should send LA and Portland invoices.

But no, seriously, there are reasons SF is one of the world's favorite city and Kansas City doesn't even rate. You may have traveled, but I've lived all over, and this is a great city. But I'm glad you like it in the middle of nowhere. Stay.
 
2012-07-26 09:19:01 PM

Marine1: snip.


Relax, let the troll be happy with his instant rice and incredibly poor civic planning. It's not any great miinds are going to be changed by this exchange.
 
2012-07-26 11:19:26 PM

digistil: their roots: innovation without big brother.


Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Link
 
2012-07-27 12:31:04 AM
I've never seen a SF vs KC argument before.

How about that. Huh.
 
2012-07-27 01:09:44 AM

theurge14: I've never seen a SF vs KC argument before.

How about that. Huh.


Well, they're getting Google Fiber, so, that makes the score 4,277 to 1.

They're closing the gap.
 
2012-07-27 01:13:06 AM
My boss' fiberhood has already been approved.

I won't even be able to get it because I'm not quite in KC.

Soooooooo friggin' jealous...
 
2012-07-27 01:21:58 AM

Scrotastic Method: theurge14: I've never seen a SF vs KC argument before.

How about that. Huh.

Well, they're getting Google Fiber, so, that makes the score 4,277 to 1.

They're closing the gap.


www.litdrift.com

*sniiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiff*
 
2012-07-27 01:25:27 AM

Scrotastic Method: theurge14: I've never seen a SF vs KC argument before.

How about that. Huh.

Well, they're getting Google Fiber, so, that makes the score 4,277 to 1.

They're closing the gap.


Also, off the main page.

Freakin' really?
 
2012-07-27 01:36:28 AM

Marine1: Freakin' really?


Yeah, we have a high-speed transit system that covers a few hundred square miles and moves underground through densely populated areas. Pretty cool huh? You'll get there one day.
 
2012-07-27 08:49:36 AM

Scrotastic Method: Marine1: Freakin' really?

Yeah, we have a high-speed transit system that covers a few hundred square miles and moves underground through densely populated areas. Pretty cool huh? You'll get there one day.


And people use it like a toilet.
 
2012-07-27 01:48:40 PM

Marine1: Scrotastic Method: Marine1: Freakin' really?

Yeah, we have a high-speed transit system that covers a few hundred square miles and moves underground through densely populated areas. Pretty cool huh? You'll get there one day.

And people use it like a toilet.


Your homeless people poo and pee where, then?
 
2012-07-27 04:06:12 PM

Scrotastic Method: Marine1: Scrotastic Method: Marine1: Freakin' really?

Yeah, we have a high-speed transit system that covers a few hundred square miles and moves underground through densely populated areas. Pretty cool huh? You'll get there one day.

And people use it like a toilet.

Your homeless people poo and pee where, then?


Libraries? Public restrooms? Homeless shelters? Trash cans? Alleys?

Not on machines that cost as much as a small house in direct view of the public to the point of destroying them.
 
2012-07-27 04:54:04 PM

Scrotastic Method: Marine1: Scrotastic Method: Marine1: Freakin' really?

Yeah, we have a high-speed transit system that covers a few hundred square miles and moves underground through densely populated areas. Pretty cool huh? You'll get there one day.

And people use it like a toilet.

Your homeless people poo and pee where, then?


They merely use the generous supply of publicly accessible restroom facilities which are abundant and easily accessible throughout the city. Also, parking is ample and always readily accessible. In fact, scratch that, there are no homeless as they have all been giving free bungalows with, oh yeah, Gigabit Internet connections. They have also been given jobs and puppies, and no one has to worry about being shot in the back by a cop for no reason.
 
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