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2012-07-26 10:03:14 AM  
Poop thread?
 
2012-07-26 10:03:33 AM  
Ok, I didn't know what Google Fiber even meant.
Here is some more information for the less informed, such as myself:

Link
 
2012-07-26 10:03:50 AM  
Any insights on this?
 
2012-07-26 10:04:48 AM  
Oooh...Podunk, Nowhere is getting fast intertubes! Very exciting.
 
2012-07-26 10:05:15 AM  

HellRaisingHoosier: Ok, I didn't know what Google Fiber even meant.
Here is some more information for the less informed, such as myself:

Link


Ah, well, considering the article about metered broadband, frankly I hope Google starts laying out the fiber and offers a unlimited plan for internet for the right price, I'd subscribe.
 
2012-07-26 10:08:11 AM  
Is it coming to where I live? No? Well I don't give a fark.
 
jbc [TotalFark]
2012-07-26 10:08:13 AM  
They bought the naming rights to Morgellons?
 
2012-07-26 10:10:13 AM  
Wow Google's going all out to collect information about my porn habits.
 
2012-07-26 10:10:49 AM  
The article kind of nailed it. The infrastructure upgrade is nice, but cable companies have a monopoly because they operate "The last 10 yards", or all the wiring that goes to an individual house. Google would have to go to each house and lay their own wiring. For businesses or large city apartments it's do-able and sounds awesome.

I'm sure the local ISP's are still pissed.
 
2012-07-26 10:12:02 AM  
I guess Google got sick and tried of waiting for the Government to upgrade infrastructure.
 
2012-07-26 10:12:58 AM  
Hoping it's a revolution for the cable/sat industry. They deserve to roast... all of them. And I would think Google could be profitable while going back to their roots: innovation without big brother.
 
2012-07-26 10:13:40 AM  

HellRaisingHoosier: The article kind of nailed it. The infrastructure upgrade is nice, but cable companies have a monopoly because they operate "The last 10 yards", or all the wiring that goes to an individual house. Google would have to go to each house and lay their own wiring. For businesses or large city apartments it's do-able and sounds awesome.

I'm sure the local ISP's are still pissed.


I wonder if Google would go wireless for last 10 yards?
 
2012-07-26 10:14:48 AM  
I'm hopefully optimistic at what this could mean.

/Fiber one just wasn't cutting it anymore.
 
2012-07-26 10:15:24 AM  

Hollie Maea: Oooh...Podunk, Nowhere is getting fast intertubes! Very exciting.


People should watch this experiment closly. It's not the first time its been done, but it's one of the first time it's been done by a private industry with a considerable amount of money. There are a good handful of cities in the U.S. who run their own local ISP's and the cable companies are doing everything in their power to shut them down and silence them. Like most things, while private enterprise is nice, local government can usually find a way to make it more efficient, cheaper and over-all very strong. Unfortunately politics comes into play and the nice government things we have get torn down ... but no there is no excuse to not allow another private entity to take a stab.
 
2012-07-26 10:17:17 AM  
 
2012-07-26 10:18:39 AM  

physt:
I wonder if Google would go wireless for last 10 yards?




It would be nice. They have a city-wide WiFi in Mountain View, CA where Google operates. However, I don't think that is their intention ... but who knows until Noon.

"Google turned down the [ Kansas City Wifi ] co-op idea about a month ago, saying it amounted to a resale service that didn't meet the company's planned licensing requirements."
 
2012-07-26 10:19:05 AM  

HellRaisingHoosier: Like most things, while private enterprise is nice, local government can usually find a way to make it more efficient, cheaper and over-all very strong.


It's not really private enterprise, it's just monopolies. When your choices are Comcast broadband or NetZero dial-up, you're left bending over for Comcast no matter how bad they are. More competition will lead to better service for the consumer.
 
2012-07-26 10:19:59 AM  

shortymac: I guess Google got sick and tried of waiting for the Government to upgrade infrastructure wants ALL the information on your surfing habits so they can sell ads.


FTFY. They're an ad agency, basically. That's where they make most of their money and that's all they really give a shiat about.
 
2012-07-26 10:20:01 AM  

GBmanNC: Is it coming to where I live? No? Well I don't give a fark.


Coming to where I live, hell yes I give a fark!
 
2012-07-26 10:21:15 AM  
Gigabit internet...drool.
 
2012-07-26 10:23:09 AM  
That's gonna be a real crappy event stream
 
2012-07-26 10:27:50 AM  
Hmm, from somewhere else the test report calls it an IP-set top box, equipped with WiFi, IR, USB, Ethernet, HDMI input and output and an Ethernet / coax (we assume MoCA?) bridge

www.blogcdn.com

So, doing the smart thing and combining my wifi router and STB in one box so I don't have to split the cable. Also raises the possibility that the Google TV device that flopped a year or two ago might have a rebirth.

/Now Kansas City can watch YouTube cat videos in HD on their big screens.
 
2012-07-26 10:27:54 AM  

Sudo_Make_Me_A_Sandwich: HellRaisingHoosier: Like most things, while private enterprise is nice, local government can usually find a way to make it more efficient, cheaper and over-all very strong.

It's not really private enterprise, it's just monopolies. When your choices are Comcast broadband or NetZero dial-up, you're left bending over for Comcast no matter how bad they are. More competition will lead to better service for the consumer.



My understanding is that local government became the "Comcast monopoly" of those areas. The only difference being that because it was government run all operating costs and data performance were public knowledge so citizens could see they weren't getting the shaft. Because when you're talking about huge a corporation you have advertising and executive bonuses, which adds a lot to cost. Essentially local government was a monopoly, but it became a monopoly because private business wasn't willing to cut their own costs so they just left town.

People have been fooled into thinking ISP's use their own money for research development and deployment. It's simply not true, that's all taxpayer money. Billions upon billions of dollars. We the taxpayer invented it, upgraded it, and deployed it ... then just handed it over.
 
2012-07-26 10:29:18 AM  

HellRaisingHoosier: The article kind of nailed it. The infrastructure upgrade is nice, but cable companies have a monopoly because they operate "The last 10 yards", or all the wiring that goes to an individual house. Google would have to go to each house and lay their own wiring. For businesses or large city apartments it's do-able and sounds awesome.

I'm sure the local ISP's are still pissed.


As a KC-metro resident it is my sad duty to inform you that the existing monopoly/duopoly can eat the biggest bag of dicks EVER. I can get 20down/1up from TWC for $40 or 768k/128k from AT&T for $30. Those numbers plummet when people are actually at home. There is simply no competition. While Google's promised Gb up/down would be awesome, I am just happy that there will be another player.
 
2012-07-26 10:38:49 AM  

HellRaisingHoosier: The article kind of nailed it. The infrastructure upgrade is nice, but cable companies have a monopoly because they operate "The last 10 yards", or all the wiring that goes to an individual house. Google would have to go to each house and lay their own wiring. For businesses or large city apartments it's do-able and sounds awesome.

I'm sure the local ISP's are still pissed.


From my understanding, that's exactly what Google is planning to do. Now KC is obviously a testbed, so I'm not expecting Google to start a nation-wide rollout anytime in the next decade, but I do see this as a potential precursor to direct-to-home fiber being offered elsewhere in the nation. It's really the only long-term option that the cable companies have. They're going to feel a pretty significant consumer backlash if they go with the tiered pricing plans they've been testing already, which will open the door for someone like Google to move in, drop their own fiber, and run it directly into homes.

Unfortunately, the big ISP's like Time-Warner didn't learn what those of us in the industry learned in the 90's. Tiered pricing structures don't work. Users don't want to have to monitor their bandwidth, and then stop using the Internet if they get close to the limit to avoid additional fees. We did it with dial-up and the moment we offered a more expensive but unlimited plan, our customers were ecstatic. Trying to go backwards is going to bite these guys in the ass.
 
2012-07-26 10:44:03 AM  

El Freak: shortymac: I guess Google got sick and tried of waiting for the Government to upgrade infrastructure wants ALL the information on your surfing habits so they can sell ads.

FTFY. They're an ad agency, basically. That's where they make most of their money and that's all they really give a shiat about.


Browser Add-Ons are your friend
 
2012-07-26 11:10:29 AM  
HellRaisingHoosier:
The article kind of nailed it. The infrastructure upgrade is nice, but cable companies have a monopoly because they operate "The last 10 yards", or all the wiring that goes to an individual house.

The reason most cable companies have local monopolies is because the local governments created the monopoly and enforced it.

You see, back when cable TV was just getting started, local governments controlled the local infrastructure. So they took bids to see who would get to put their wires in the ground - or on local telephone poles. The winning bidders got the monopoly.

As cable moved from a "master antenna" model to satellite-based distribution, the amount of hardware installed made it pretty much impossible for most companies to be able to bid into the systems - when you have to put a whole new set of hardware in, the immediate investment is pretty much impossible for all but the largest companies - who would rather just buy the company with the local monopoly.

There are exceptions, of course- but they're few and far between. The biggest threats to the cable-based internet providers are the phone companies (who have lots and lots of wire and fiber in place already) and the wireless data companies - not people like Google, who might have enough cash, but are looking at years and years of hardware installs to get the tech base in place.

The alternate scenario is for folks like Google to go to the various cable companies and offer them large piles of cash for parallel access to their current networks. A lot of them already have fiber to the curb - something like 95% of Orlando has fiber available, for example - and the only thing slowing higher speeds than the current 40 megabit top end is the hardware for routing (which is a massive cost).
 
2012-07-26 11:28:32 AM  

madgonad:
As a KC-metro resident it is my sad duty to inform you that the existing monopoly/duopoly can eat the biggest bag of dicks EVER. I can get 20down/1up from TWC for $40 or 768k/128k from AT&T for $30. Those numbers plummet when people are actually at home. There is simply no competition. While Google's promised Gb up/down would be awesome, I am just happy that there will be another player.


I'm getting 10down/1up from TWC at about the same price. Those that are SE of the metro who are stuck with Comcast are equally hosed. And the small part of the metro with any sort of real competition from SureWest (nee Everest) isn't really much better.

I'm facing a huge moral decision here... on one hand, I live in KCMO now, so I should be able to get this soon, but on the other hand, my child will be going to school soon, and I'd also like to move to a decent school district... Sophie had an easier choice.
 
2012-07-26 11:29:08 AM  
I wish that someone would enfibernate my rural area. Slow DSL is our only choice here.
 
2012-07-26 11:39:24 AM  

El Freak: shortymac: I guess Google got sick and tried of waiting for the Government to upgrade infrastructure wants ALL the information on your surfing habits so they can sell ads.

FTFY. They're an ad agency, basically. That's where they make most of their money and that's all they really give a shiat about.


If they can get me fiber at reasonable prices without the drama I deal with from Time Warner, they can have that information.

/besides, all the important shiat goes through SSL
 
2012-07-26 11:44:05 AM  
Surprised the Telcos and Cablecos didn't lobby to shut them down. Google needs Microsoft, Amazon and Apple to jump onboard to put the fire under the ISPs arses
 
2012-07-26 11:50:51 AM  

physt: I wonder if Google would go wireless for last 10 yards?


That idea actually kind of intrigues me. I wonder what the upsides/downsides comparison looks like as far as cost and stability and what not.
 
2012-07-26 11:57:35 AM  
The video stream is now showing an adorable little multicolored bunny.
 
2012-07-26 12:03:00 PM  
Over 7000 people watching live. Not a bad audience.
 
2012-07-26 12:03:29 PM  
Pretty cool car intro
 
2012-07-26 12:06:44 PM  
Major public announcement about tech - and $2 worth of lighting for the video.

It's a shame Google doesn't have any money so they could afford some better equipment...
 
2012-07-26 12:08:32 PM  
I'm pleasantly surprised that the CFO isn't a bad speaker. Accounting types are usually not good at this stuff.
 
2012-07-26 12:21:23 PM  

Hollie Maea: Oooh...Podunk, Nowhere is getting fast intertubes! Very exciting.


Yes, Kansas City, MO/ KS is Podunk, Nowhere.

The place that:

Trades most of the wheat used in bread
Builds the most popular vehicle in the country (Ford F-150)
Is home to one of the four major telcos in the US that is also a major part of the internet backbone (Sprint)
Is home to the one the architectural/engineering firm that builds the majority of the world's sports stadiums (Populous)
Supplies the US military with the vast majority of its small arms ammunition (Lake City Ammunition Plant)
Produces the non-nuclear components for ICBMs (Kansas City Honeywell Plant)
Is home to the second-busiest freight rail yard in the country
Has more interstate highway miles per capita than anywhere else in the US
A metro area population of 2 million people...

is Podunk, Nowhere.

Are you really that stupid voluntarily, or do you drool and shiat yourself from a head injury? The second condition I can forgive, but being that stupid as a choice? That's just beyond fixing.
 
2012-07-26 12:22:34 PM  

ReverendLoki: madgonad:
As a KC-metro resident it is my sad duty to inform you that the existing monopoly/duopoly can eat the biggest bag of dicks EVER. I can get 20down/1up from TWC for $40 or 768k/128k from AT&T for $30. Those numbers plummet when people are actually at home. There is simply no competition. While Google's promised Gb up/down would be awesome, I am just happy that there will be another player.

I'm getting 10down/1up from TWC at about the same price. Those that are SE of the metro who are stuck with Comcast are equally hosed. And the small part of the metro with any sort of real competition from SureWest (nee Everest) isn't really much better.

I'm facing a huge moral decision here... on one hand, I live in KCMO now, so I should be able to get this soon, but on the other hand, my child will be going to school soon, and I'd also like to move to a decent school district... Sophie had an easier choice.


Move to Kansas City, North. Park Hill and North Kansas City schools are good.
 
2012-07-26 12:26:01 PM  
Confirmed: Google Fiber TV service.
 
2012-07-26 12:29:44 PM  

Marine1: Yes, Kansas City, MO/ KS is Podunk, Nowhere.

The place that:

Trades most of the wheat used in bread
Builds the most popular vehicle in the country (Ford F-150)
Is home to one of the four major telcos in the US that is also a major part of the internet backbone (Sprint)
Is home to the one the architectural/engineering firm that builds the majority of the world's sports stadiums (Populous)
Supplies the US military with the vast majority of its small arms ammunition (Lake City Ammunition Plant)
Produces the non-nuclear components for ICBMs (Kansas City Honeywell Plant)
Is home to the second-busiest freight rail yard in the country
Has more interstate highway miles per capita than anywhere else in the US
A metro area population of 2 million people...

is Podunk, Nowhere.

Are you really that stupid voluntarily, or do you drool and shiat yourself from a head injury? The second condition I can forgive, but being that stupid as a choice? That's just beyond fixing.


Your jimmies sound rustled.
 
2012-07-26 12:30:59 PM  
But is it wireless for final few yards?

That would be a game changer. Anything else is just FIOS/UVERSE with a prettier logo
 
2012-07-26 12:31:15 PM  

Marine1: Hollie Maea: Oooh...Podunk, Nowhere is getting fast intertubes! Very exciting.

Yes, Kansas City, MO/ KS is Podunk, Nowhere.

The place that:

Trades most of the wheat used in bread
Builds the most popular vehicle in the country (Ford F-150)
Is home to one of the four major telcos in the US that is also a major part of the internet backbone (Sprint)
Is home to the one the architectural/engineering firm that builds the majority of the world's sports stadiums (Populous)
Supplies the US military with the vast majority of its small arms ammunition (Lake City Ammunition Plant)
Produces the non-nuclear components for ICBMs (Kansas City Honeywell Plant)
Is home to the second-busiest freight rail yard in the country
Has more interstate highway miles per capita than anywhere else in the US
A metro area population of 2 million people...

is Podunk, Nowhere.

Are you really that stupid voluntarily, or do you drool and shiat yourself from a head injury? The second condition I can forgive, but being that stupid as a choice? That's just beyond fixing.


ohhemad.jpg
 
2012-07-26 12:33:28 PM  
It sounds like they're not just going after Bright House and Comcast, they're also targeting Netflix and Hulu.
 
2012-07-26 12:35:29 PM  
I would dump Comcast in a microsecond for this.
 
2012-07-26 12:35:43 PM  
They're actually going to lay fiber to every house.

My God.
 
2012-07-26 12:35:59 PM  

Marine1: Hollie Maea: Oooh...Podunk, Nowhere is getting fast intertubes! Very exciting.

Yes, Kansas City, MO/ KS is Podunk, Nowhere.

The place that:

Trades most of the wheat used in bread
Builds the most popular vehicle in the country (Ford F-150)
Is home to one of the four major telcos in the US that is also a major part of the internet backbone (Sprint)
Is home to the one the architectural/engineering firm that builds the majority of the world's sports stadiums (Populous)
Supplies the US military with the vast majority of its small arms ammunition (Lake City Ammunition Plant)
Produces the non-nuclear components for ICBMs (Kansas City Honeywell Plant)
Is home to the second-busiest freight rail yard in the country
Has more interstate highway miles per capita than anywhere else in the US
A metro area population of 2 million people...

is Podunk, Nowhere.

Are you really that stupid voluntarily, or do you drool and shiat yourself from a head injury? The second condition I can forgive, but being that stupid as a choice? That's just beyond fixing.



It's not where I'm at.

Where am I? An area that is rich in engineers of all stripes and a world-class university in the area as well. Sadly, when Sprint first rolled out 4G service, they couldn't be bothered with this part of the state (also the most populous), either.

This announcement means NOTHING to me. They might as well as rolled it out in Japan.
 
2012-07-26 12:38:36 PM  
tomWright:
But is it wireless for final few yards?


Nope. Fiber to the home.

Symmetric gigabit, though.

Each fiber-tv box has a wireless repeater, too.

The system remote is a Nexus 7 tablet computer.
 
2012-07-26 12:40:31 PM  
And here come the hardware details:

Fiber modem/router that terminates the fiber cabe:
Four gigabit wired jacks, built-in wireless with guest network.
Whole-house DVR with 2TB of storage, record 8 shows simultaneously

Also a set-top box, about the size of a Roku, with Netflix and Youtube pre-installed.
With built-in Wifi to increase in-home coverage.

Nexus 7 tablet that serves as a remote.
 
2012-07-26 12:41:19 PM  

crab66: I would dump Comcast in a microsecond for this.


You're so dial up.

I'd drop them in a Zettasecond
 
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