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(io9)   Hey man. *inhales* So, like, what if the moon was a PLANET instead of a moon? Duuuuude   (io9.com) divider line 80
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2012-07-26 10:12:47 AM
We probably wouldn't exist to ask such retarded questions.
 
2012-07-26 10:17:36 AM
Then then planet would have been torn apart by tidal forces long ago
 
2012-07-26 10:52:08 AM
So the guys at io9 saw this Youtube video and decided the world needs a stationary webpage version?

Also, when they say something like "Neptune is 14 times bigger than the moon", what they're talking about is the radius, which is dumb, because you can fit more than 14 moons inside Neptune. In fact you can fit 2897 moons inside Neptune, because that's how much bigger it is. I'm assuming io9 referred to the radii because that's all they needed to know for their little exercise in Photoshop.
 
2012-07-26 12:24:33 PM
I'm curious as to what impact periodic 1.5 hour total eclipses would have on superstition/culture.

Presupposing all other things remained equal, of course.
 
2012-07-26 12:46:50 PM
Something like this could make seasons more interesting. Instead of a generally elliptical orbit around the sun, we'd have the added bonus of the twin planets orbiting around each other. That would probably mess with weather patterns rather violently.
 
2012-07-26 01:29:43 PM

wxboy: Something like this could make seasons more interesting. Instead of a generally elliptical orbit around the sun, we'd have the added bonus of the twin planets orbiting around each other. That would probably mess with weather patterns rather violently.


I don't follow. Why would that have any effect on God answering our prayers for rain?
 
2012-07-26 01:31:38 PM

Kingly Weevil: I'm curious as to what impact periodic 1.5 hour total eclipses would have on superstition/culture.


www.movie-page.com
 
2012-07-26 01:35:07 PM
I think I saw this episode of Transformers. Tidal waves would murder us all.

Also, people from Kandor would live on the opposite side from us.
 
2012-07-26 01:35:43 PM
Only Pluto has a satellite that is larger, in proportion to the size of the planet it orbits.

I guess they didn't get the memo that Pluto isn't a planet anymore.
 
2012-07-26 01:37:15 PM
A safe and stable orbit for a larger moon would be further away.
 
2012-07-26 01:39:34 PM
That's no moon
 
2012-07-26 01:39:43 PM

Fano: I think I saw this episode of Transformers. Tidal waves would murder us all.


At least they'd literally be tidal waves, unlike the usual wave with this name.
 
2012-07-26 01:42:25 PM
i2.crtcdn1.net

What if...?
 
2012-07-26 01:42:49 PM
Earth orbiting a gas giant? Quintaglio, please. Like that could happen.

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-07-26 01:45:20 PM
came for stoner sagan pics, leaving meh.

i also agree about the size/radius comparisons complaint. it made me miss a stupid science jeopardy question the other day.
 
2012-07-26 01:49:54 PM
My favorite part of that article was the comments where people entered songs lyrics about the moon and changed it to "Uranus".

"When Uranus hits your eye; like a big pizza pie; that's amore"
 
2012-07-26 01:53:57 PM

Kingly Weevil: I'm curious as to what impact periodic 1.5 hour total eclipses would have on superstition/culture.

Presupposing all other things remained equal, of course.


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-07-26 01:55:03 PM
XKCD's "what ifs" are a lot better:

Link
 
2012-07-26 01:59:23 PM
That was actually one of the better io9 articles I've ever read. Thanks, Subby! *thumbsup*
 
2012-07-26 02:01:50 PM
Someone was high when they wrote that headline because that's not at all what the article is about.
 
2012-07-26 02:02:01 PM
What the hell was the point of that? "Planets are bigger than our moon!"
 
2012-07-26 02:16:13 PM
how would it look if ceiling cat was REALLY orbiting us?
 
2012-07-26 02:18:55 PM

No Such Agency: Earth orbiting a gas giant? Quintaglio, please. Like that could happen.

[upload.wikimedia.org image 250x382]


upload.wikimedia.org
 
2012-07-26 02:25:43 PM

Fano: [i2.crtcdn1.net image 400x300]

What if...?


Yeah, but that's no planet...
 
2012-07-26 02:30:30 PM

Fano: [i2.crtcdn1.net image 400x300]

What if...?


That's no moon.
 
2012-07-26 02:37:25 PM
Luna is a planet. The Earth-Moon system is a binary planet.

/Free Pluto!
 
2012-07-26 02:43:51 PM
If Earth were as close to any of the gas giants as the moon is to us, we wouldn't have tides... because we'd be tidally locked to it the same way the moon is tidally locked to Earth.

And I believe that in some distant future IAU conference, it will be decided that the moon is not a moon. It is a member of a binary planet.
 
2012-07-26 02:45:08 PM
Well, the Moon WAS a planet about the size of Mars, then it had felt like it had the cajones to play chicken with the Earth

/we won and kept the remnants as a trophy
 
2012-07-26 02:59:57 PM

divgradcurl: came for stoner sagan pics, leaving meh.

i also agree about the size/radius comparisons complaint. it made me miss a stupid science jeopardy question the other day.


Uninformed writers trying to be clever. I was annoyed by a Buzztime trivia question the other day. The question was "An ion is formed when an atom gains or loses one of these:" a & b were some random obviously wrong choices, then there was c. electron and d. beta particle. I knew what the idiot that wrote the question was looking for, but I wanted to answer d. out of spite.
 
2012-07-26 03:02:20 PM

DeltaPunch: So the guys at io9 saw this Youtube video and decided the world needs a stationary webpage version?

Also, when they say something like "Neptune is 14 times bigger than the moon", what they're talking about is the radius, which is dumb, because you can fit more than 14 moons inside Neptune. In fact you can fit 2897 moons inside Neptune, because that's how much bigger it is. I'm assuming io9 referred to the radii because that's all they needed to know for their little exercise in Photoshop.


Except that we're talking about the arclength of the object in a visual field, so radius is the only metric that makes any farking sense whatsoever in this context.
 
2012-07-26 03:03:59 PM

babtras: If Earth were as close to any of the gas giants as the moon is to us, we wouldn't have tides... because we'd be tidally locked to it the same way the moon is tidally locked to Earth.

And I believe that in some distant future IAU conference, it will be decided that the moon is not a moon. It is a member of a binary planet.


The common point the Earth and Moon rotate about is under the earth's surface, which is probably a good enough definition to keep it as a 'moon' instead of a 'double planet'.
 
2012-07-26 03:09:38 PM

babtras: And I believe that in some distant future IAU conference, it will be decided that the moon is not a moon. It is a member of a binary planet.


Simple definition: if one body is small enough that the barycenter the orbit is located within the radius of the larger body, then the smaller one is a moon of the larger one. If not, they're a binary system.

upload.wikimedia.org

The best part of this definition is that it extends to star systems too. If one star is small enough, then actually it's not binary star system but a single start with a moon that happens to be another star..
 
2012-07-26 03:22:41 PM

manwithplanx: Well, the Moon WAS a planet about the size of Mars, then it had felt like it had the cajones to play chicken with the Earth

/we won and kept the remnants as a trophy


so why don't we sell it on ebay
after all it's ours

www.unmuseum.org
 
2012-07-26 03:47:57 PM

Theaetetus: Kingly Weevil: I'm curious as to what impact periodic 1.5 hour total eclipses would have on superstition/culture.

[www.movie-page.com image 450x300]


There wouldn't be any culture left after a while
 
2012-07-26 03:48:08 PM
ya I think of dumb shiat like this when I'm stoned too but at least I'm smart enough not to make a webpage about it
 
2012-07-26 03:58:59 PM

you have pee hands: The common point the Earth and Moon rotate about is under the earth's surface, which is probably a good enough definition to keep it as a 'moon' instead of a 'double planet'.


Citation, please.

DeltaPunch: Simple definition: if one body is small enough that the barycenter the orbit is located within the radius of the larger body, then the smaller one is a moon of the larger one. If not, they're a binary system.


Again, citation, please. DeltaPunch is not a refereed journal or a recognized international astronomical association.
 
2012-07-26 04:04:37 PM

Galloping Galoshes: you have pee hands: The common point the Earth and Moon rotate about is under the earth's surface, which is probably a good enough definition to keep it as a 'moon' instead of a 'double planet'.

Citation, please.

DeltaPunch: Simple definition: if one body is small enough that the barycenter the orbit is located within the radius of the larger body, then the smaller one is a moon of the larger one. If not, they're a binary system.

Again, citation, please. DeltaPunch is not a refereed journal or a recognized international astronomical association.


Citation please, I have no evidence to suggest that DeltaPunch is not an editor of Phys. Rev. or Science.
 
2012-07-26 04:16:05 PM

Galloping Galoshes: you have pee hands: The common point the Earth and Moon rotate about is under the earth's surface, which is probably a good enough definition to keep it as a 'moon' instead of a 'double planet'.

Citation, please.

DeltaPunch: Simple definition: if one body is small enough that the barycenter the orbit is located within the radius of the larger body, then the smaller one is a moon of the larger one. If not, they're a binary system.

Again, citation, please. DeltaPunch is not a refereed journal or a recognized international astronomical association.


Here you are
 
2012-07-26 04:21:04 PM

Der Poopflinger: ya I think of dumb shiat like this when I'm stoned too but at least I'm smart enough not to make a webpage about it


Well you're obviously not part of the Gawker network.
 
2012-07-26 04:22:12 PM

Galloping Galoshes: DeltaPunch: Simple definition: if one body is small enough that the barycenter the orbit is located within the radius of the larger body, then the smaller one is a moon of the larger one. If not, they're a binary system.

Again, citation, please. DeltaPunch is not a refereed journal or a recognized international astronomical association.


It's not a rigorous definition, I'm simply proposing that we could use something like this to make a rigorous definition.


meddleRPI: Citation please, I have no evidence to suggest that DeltaPunch is not an editor of Phys. Rev. or Science.


Heh, although I'm not affiliated directly with those organizations, I actually am a peer-reviewer for various analysis committees within our collaboration, and those papers do in fact get submitted to those journals (Phys Rev or Phys Letts). :)
 
2012-07-26 04:25:35 PM

Jon iz teh kewl: manwithplanx: Well, the Moon WAS a planet about the size of Mars, then it had felt like it had the cajones to play chicken with the Earth

/we won and kept the remnants as a trophy

so why don't we sell it on ebay
after all it's ours

[www.unmuseum.org image 340x357]


Technically we don't assert property rights in space, so we can't.

/Altho I believe private interests can.
/Which could become a prickly issue.
/Astronauts fighting over rocks and what-not.
 
2012-07-26 04:28:27 PM

bdub77: We probably wouldn't exist to ask such retarded questions.


Der Poopflinger: ya I think of dumb shiat like this when I'm stoned too but at least I'm smart enough not to make a webpage about it


buckler: What the hell was the point of that? "Planets are bigger than our moon!"


Damn, who shat in your guys' cheerios this morning?
 
2012-07-26 04:29:47 PM
Frank sinatra, majora's mask or sailor moon reference?


Eh, fark it. This shiat's hard man.
 
2012-07-26 04:36:16 PM

Eshman: bdub77: We probably wouldn't exist to ask such retarded questions.

Der Poopflinger: ya I think of dumb shiat like this when I'm stoned too but at least I'm smart enough not to make a webpage about it

buckler: What the hell was the point of that? "Planets are bigger than our moon!"

Damn, who shat in your guys' cheerios this morning?


Carl Sagan. Jerk.
 
2012-07-26 04:39:03 PM

Eshman: Damn, who shat in your guys' cheerios this morning?


I didn, but I was trying something, and that's entirely besides the point

StrangeQ: Well you're obviously not part of the Gawker network.


I don't even know what that means
 
2012-07-26 04:42:59 PM
"You hear about Pluto?.... That's messed up."

images.wikia.com
 
2012-07-26 04:43:38 PM
If the moon had an atmosphere and life we would have perfected space travel long ago.

Either to spread religion or fight a war.
 
2012-07-26 04:58:29 PM

wildcardjack: If the moon had an atmosphere and life we would have perfected space travel long ago.

Either to spread religion or fight a war.


Or vacation spot. Or all three.
 
2012-07-26 04:58:36 PM
I thought it was accepted that we were a binary planet rather than a planet/moon? My subscription to Odessy expired a long time ago...
 
2012-07-26 05:00:05 PM

Kome: Only Pluto has a satellite that is larger, in proportion to the size of the planet it orbits.

I guess they didn't get the memo that Pluto isn't a planet anymore.


That's messed up!
 
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