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2012-07-26 10:00:05 AM
"Police officers want to go home to their families. And we're doing everything we can to make their job more difficult, but more importantly, more dangerous, by leaving guns in the hands of people who shouldn't have them and letting people who have those guns buy things like armor-piercing bullets," he detailed. "The only reason to have an armor-piercing bullet is to go through a bullet-resistant vest. The only people that wear bullet-resistant vests are our police officers."

Yeah, because that guy who just killed a whole bunch of people in a theatre last week totally wasn't wearing bullet resistant armor.

*total facepalm*

I'm sorry if I disagree with the guy who has turned NYC into a police state.
 
2012-07-26 10:06:05 AM
She was all tears now as she started lowering the shoulder straps of her peignoir and I was Standing there suddenly with a naked Venus whose whole body seemed to be saying, Take me-I'm yours. A Venus whose right band tousled my hair while her left band had picked up a forty-five and was holding it behind my back. I let go with a slug from my thirty-eight before she could pull the trigger, and she dropped her gun and doubled over in disbelief.

"How could you, Kaiser?"

She was fading fast, but I managed to get it in, in time.

"The manifestation of the universe as a complex idea unto itself as opposed to being in or outside the true Being of itself is inherently a conceptual nothingness or Nothingness in relation to any abstract form of existing or to exist or having existed in perpetuity and not subject to laws of physicality or motion or ideas relating to non-matter or the lack of objective Being or subjective otherness."
It was a subtle concept but I think she understood before she died.
 
2012-07-26 10:07:33 AM
Shut up Piers Morgan, you cock.
 
2012-07-26 10:07:47 AM

bdub77:
I'm sorry if I disagree with the guy who has turned NYC into a police state.


Yeah me and that Rudy guy don't see eye to eye on anything, man.
 
2012-07-26 10:08:37 AM
"I don't understand why the police officers across this country don't stand up collectively and say we're going to go on strike," Bloomberg told the "Piers Morgan Tonight" host. "We're not going to protect you unless you, the public, through your legislature, do what's required to keep us safe."

Like decriminalizing drugs and focusing on treatment for abusers?
 
2012-07-26 10:09:56 AM
So basically he thinks police should go on strike in order to force the public to comply with demands.

Why not just legalize protection rackets?
 
2012-07-26 10:11:07 AM
So if everyone turns in their guns, will we stop seeing police dressed like this?

upload.wikimedia.org

No? Then fark off.
 
2012-07-26 10:13:35 AM
As far as I'm aware, gun violence in NYC is way down since they instated their policy of all guns being illegal.

Does anyone have numbers that show otherwise?
 
2012-07-26 10:15:35 AM

randomjsa: So basically he thinks police should go on strike in order to force the public to comply with demands.


That's nothing new, every police union in the nation uses the threat of strike during contract negotiations.
 
2012-07-26 10:15:42 AM
What if the American public changes it mind on guns? What if it divides itself, like gay marriage, into a growing majority that is sick of having to hear about these massacres so they dislike guns? Sure there's a vocal 45% in favor of guns, but what if country just started rapidly changing its views?

It just seems like a political wedge issue. Liberals don't seem to see conservatives point of keeping all gun regulations at 0.
 
2012-07-26 10:15:55 AM
Bloomers is right that this is a good time to have a conversation about gun control but due to it being an election year it's not gonna happen beyond the pundit level and even that will die down quickly.

Armor piercing bullets aren't really high up on the list of things to worry about.

I'm more interested in closing hte gun show loophole, making sure mentally ill people don't have legal access to guns and maybe thinking about better ways of tracking of ammo purchases. Limiting amounts of ammo is worthy of discussion as well.

But once again, the political will to have this discussion simply doesn't exist and no effective legislation on this will happen any time soon and especially not in an election year.
 
2012-07-26 10:15:59 AM

IHadMeAVision: bdub77:
I'm sorry if I disagree with the guy who has turned NYC into a police state.

Yeah me and that Rudy guy don't see eye to eye on anything, man.


but can Giuli do the stroll?
 
2012-07-26 10:18:11 AM

farkityfarker: As far as I'm aware, gun violence in NYC is way down since they instated their policy of all guns being illegal.

Does anyone have numbers that show otherwise?


They don't, but they will post anecdotes for you and pretend it means something.
 
2012-07-26 10:19:54 AM

quatchi: I'm more interested in closing hte gun show loophole, making sure mentally ill people don't have legal access to guns and maybe thinking about better ways of tracking of ammo purchases. Limiting amounts of ammo is worthy of discussion as well.


If not closing the gun show loophole entirely, just tighten it up a bit. If you're some private citizen and you go to a show to sell or trade a couple of firearms that's one thing; you shouldn't be required to get the ability to do background checks. But if you're setting up a table with 20 handguns on it, you ain't just selling your personal collection, you're running a business - and you should be held to the same standards as any other professional gun dealer.
 
2012-07-26 10:20:27 AM
I wonder how this is going over at the KK... I mean AR15 forums, or Stormfront... as if there is a difference.
 
2012-07-26 10:23:50 AM

quatchi: Bloomers is right that this is a good time to have a conversation about gun control but due to it being an election year it's not gonna happen beyond the pundit level and even that will die down quickly.

Armor piercing bullets aren't really high up on the list of things to worry about.

I'm more interested in closing hte gun show loophole, making sure mentally ill people don't have legal access to guns and maybe thinking about better ways of tracking of ammo purchases. Limiting amounts of ammo is worthy of discussion as well.

But once again, the political will to have this discussion simply doesn't exist and no effective legislation on this will happen any time soon and especially not in an election year.


Someone was bringing up automobiles as a model that I thought had a few really interesting ideas (probably not practical) like licensure and registration and even liability insurance.

Mental health systems though are what I'm more interested in. Maybe if we can catch the crazies before they go on their massacres we won't have as many. There's less opposition, and as a bonus we can treat all the crazies that accost me when I'm on the bus.

I just feel that we as a nation have decided to just accept the occasion massacre as some sort of natural disaster that we have to roll with. I find that abhorrent. I want our country to work on preventing these things, not throwing our hands up in the air and giving up.
 
2012-07-26 10:25:31 AM

IrateShadow: So if everyone turns in their guns, will we stop seeing police dressed like this?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x558]

No? Then fark off.


I'm confused. Where is Major Carter in that picture?
 
2012-07-26 10:26:42 AM

farkityfarker: As far as I'm aware, gun violence in NYC is way down since they instated their policy of all guns being illegal.

Does anyone have numbers that show otherwise?


http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2012/07/25/murder-by-firearm-infogra p hic/

Number 3 in the nation in gun related homicides. I would have to say otherwise if you asked me.
 
2012-07-26 10:29:17 AM
You're never going to stop the 1 in 100 million psycho. The guy in Aurora was already building bombs, you think he wouldn't have gone into the theater with a bunch of bombs if he didn't have a gun?

Also, anyone who thinks guns are regulated in this country apparently knows little about guns - they are regulated up the wazoo.

How many children drown in swimming pools each year? How many children are killed by drunk drivers each year? This is a nation of 300 MILLION + people - statistically, shiat happens.
 
2012-07-26 10:31:52 AM
I wonder if ther eis a difference in regards to violence in nations with homogenous people and countries where people come from all different tribes so to speak.
 
2012-07-26 10:31:54 AM

farkityfarker: As far as I'm aware, gun violence in NYC is way down since they instated their policy of all guns being illegal.


No such policy.
 
2012-07-26 10:32:16 AM

HotWingConspiracy: randomjsa: So basically he thinks police should go on strike in order to force the public to comply with demands.

That's nothing new, every police union in the nation uses the threat of strike during contract negotiations.


True, but Cops going on strike to demand that criminals obey the law sounds like a plan that wasn't thought all the way through.
 
2012-07-26 10:34:46 AM

way south: HotWingConspiracy: randomjsa: So basically he thinks police should go on strike in order to force the public to comply with demands.

That's nothing new, every police union in the nation uses the threat of strike during contract negotiations.

True, but Cops going on strike to demand that criminals obey the law sounds like a plan that wasn't thought all the way through.


That's not really what he was saying, but ok.
 
2012-07-26 10:34:57 AM

Giltric: I wonder if ther eis a difference in regards to violence in nations with homogenous people and countries where people come from all different tribes so to speak.


Because people of different "tribes" (skin color) are the reason people massacre each other?

Is that really the reason we have psychos? That black and white people live together?
 
2012-07-26 10:35:28 AM

Karac: If not closing the gun show loophole entirely, just tighten it up a bit. If you're some private citizen and you go to a show to sell or trade a couple of firearms that's one thing; you shouldn't be required to get the ability to do background checks. But if you're setting up a table with 20 handguns on it, you ain't just selling your personal collection, you're running a business - and you should be held to the same standards as any other professional gun dealer.


I concur. By closing I actually meant "tightening up". Gun shows should exist but they need to be run better than a weekend flea market with a proper paper trail.
 
2012-07-26 10:38:31 AM

Giltric: I wonder if ther eis a difference in regards to violence in nations with homogenous people and countries where people come from all different tribes so to speak.


I'd venture a guess and say no. If people have no race to fight about, they begin fighting about religion, to the point of creating their own sects JUST to have a conflict. When religion is not the issue, they turn to localism. (I may be making that word up, but I mean conflicts between individual communities regarding which community is "better")

Humans will be humans.
 
2012-07-26 10:38:50 AM

Esc7: Giltric: I wonder if ther eis a difference in regards to violence in nations with homogenous people and countries where people come from all different tribes so to speak.

Because people of different "tribes" (skin color) are the reason people massacre each other?

Is that really the reason we have psychos? That black and white people live together?


Skin color? WTF are you talking about?

How many shades of color difference are there between Bathists, Shia and Sunni let alone Kurd and Arabic Iraqi.

How about between scots irish and ulstermen?
 
2012-07-26 10:39:45 AM

please: You're never going to stop the 1 in 100 million psycho. The guy in Aurora was already building bombs, you think he wouldn't have gone into the theater with a bunch of bombs if he didn't have a gun?

Also, anyone who thinks guns are regulated in this country apparently knows little about guns - they are regulated up the wazoo.

How many children drown in swimming pools each year? How many children are killed by drunk drivers each year? This is a nation of 300 MILLION + people - statistically, shiat happens.


Statistically, in this nation, you have a much higher chance of being shot than any other first world nation with equal access to guns.

I don't think that's acceptable. I don't think having these 1 in a million massacres, is acceptable. I see other countries and they don't seem to have them, the one in Norway was called "the worst atrocity since WWII."

I just want what I see overseas. A country where massacres like this don't happen as often as they do.
 
2012-07-26 10:39:56 AM

Giltric: I wonder if ther eis a difference in regards to violence in nations with homogenous people and countries where people come from all different tribes so to speak.


mexico is pretty freakin violent... along with many south american countries.
 
2012-07-26 10:39:57 AM

please: You're never going to stop the 1 in 100 million psycho.


You just asserted that there are only three psychos in the entire USA.
 
2012-07-26 10:44:14 AM

Headso: Giltric: I wonder if ther eis a difference in regards to violence in nations with homogenous people and countries where people come from all different tribes so to speak.

mexico is pretty freakin violent... along with many south american countries.


And the violence is split up and taking place between tribes of zetas and figuroas, juarez, sinaloa etc in Mexico.

The tribes just happen to be drug cartels....ie people loyal to their tribe first and foremost.
 
2012-07-26 10:44:50 AM

Giltric: Esc7: Giltric: I wonder if ther eis a difference in regards to violence in nations with homogenous people and countries where people come from all different tribes so to speak.

Because people of different "tribes" (skin color) are the reason people massacre each other?

Is that really the reason we have psychos? That black and white people live together?

Skin color? WTF are you talking about?

How many shades of color difference are there between Bathists, Shia and Sunni let alone Kurd and Arabic Iraqi.

How about between scots irish and ulstermen?


...I thought we were talking about America, and its massacres?
 
2012-07-26 10:48:37 AM

Giltric: Headso: Giltric: I wonder if ther eis a difference in regards to violence in nations with homogenous people and countries where people come from all different tribes so to speak.

mexico is pretty freakin violent... along with many south american countries.

And the violence is split up and taking place between tribes of zetas and figuroas, juarez, sinaloa etc in Mexico.

The tribes just happen to be drug cartels....ie people loyal to their tribe first and foremost.


lol, ok...
 
2012-07-26 10:48:40 AM
Gun laws don't stop criminals from getting guns. It can be a hinderance and possibly get someone off the street before they commit a murder, but overall prohibition doesn't work in this country.

Also, Aurora had more to do with untreated mental illness than access to weapons. That man would have used other tools to carry out his schizophrenic fantasy.
 
2012-07-26 10:48:48 AM
When the little man gives up his personal protection I'll consider giving up mine but probably would just point and laugh.
 
2012-07-26 10:49:02 AM

Esc7: Because people of different "tribes" (skin color) are the reason people massacre each other? Is that really the reason we have psychos? That black and white people live together?


It's Giltric, just be glad he didn't blame Obama for the Holocaust.

Or hasn't yet in this thread, rather.
 
2012-07-26 10:49:51 AM

please: You're never going to stop the 1 in 100 million psycho. The guy in Aurora was already building bombs, you think he wouldn't have gone into the theater with a bunch of bombs if he didn't have a gun?

Also, anyone who thinks guns are regulated in this country apparently knows little about guns - they are regulated up the wazoo.

How many children drown in swimming pools each year? How many children are killed by drunk drivers each year? This is a nation of 300 MILLION + people - statistically, shiat happens.


Exactly. We don't live in Utopia because Utopia is impossible. This is the real world. shiat happens and will always happen and there is no stopping it.

I read somewhere that, at about the same time this douche was shooting up the movies, some chick, through negligance, lost control of her car on an interstate in Colorado and ended up causing an accident that killed more people than the shooting. So, Sideshow Bob didn't even cause the biggest tragedy in that state on that day. Yet people aren't running around demanding that only police be able to have cars - an argument that would make a LOT more sense than gun control. More people die from automobiles than anything else in the US - guns are way, way down the list. But guns are scary and so people who are prone to pure emotional reactions instead of using any reason whatsoever crawl out of the woodwork demanding they be banned.

Life isn't perfect. shiat happens. And if you really, really are actually wanting to stop the loss of life and "protect the children" start with something that would make an actual major difference, like cars. When you start and end with guns it shows a real lack of critical thinking.
 
2012-07-26 10:50:38 AM

Esc7: Giltric: Esc7: Giltric: I wonder if ther eis a difference in regards to violence in nations with homogenous people and countries where people come from all different tribes so to speak.

Because people of different "tribes" (skin color) are the reason people massacre each other?

Is that really the reason we have psychos? That black and white people live together?

Skin color? WTF are you talking about?

How many shades of color difference are there between Bathists, Shia and Sunni let alone Kurd and Arabic Iraqi.

How about between scots irish and ulstermen?

...I thought we were talking about America, and its massacres?


Yes, America...the melting pot. A country where once we get here we all split up into our little groups whether it be based on country of origin, religion, political party etc...... and remain loyal to our group first and foremost before our fellow" Americans".

I'd wager that most of the violence stems from one person wanting what another person has....kids shoot/stab/set fire to eachother for sneakers...because they believe they are entitled to someone elses belongings.....

If you noticed the first question I asked, which is even quoted in your response....I wonder if ther eis a difference in regards to violence in nations with homogenous people and countries where people come from all different tribes so to speak.
 
2012-07-26 10:51:16 AM

Fluorescent Testicle: Esc7: Because people of different "tribes" (skin color) are the reason people massacre each other? Is that really the reason we have psychos? That black and white people live together?

It's Giltric, just be glad he didn't blame Obama for the Holocaust.

Or hasn't yet in this thread, rather.


Citation?
 
2012-07-26 10:55:07 AM

bluelancer03: IrateShadow: So if everyone turns in their guns, will we stop seeing police dressed like this?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 800x558]

No? Then fark off.

I'm confused. Where is Major Carter in that picture?


That was one of the episodes right after she got pregnant, and was showing too much to hide in huge shirts and shooting her only from the waste up. They phoned her in from the Daedalus in that episode. Weirder still, Teal'c seems to be a small white man who has hair.

Must be one of the episodes after season 9.
 
2012-07-26 10:57:05 AM
Whenever I see the word "tyrant" I know I'm in for a treat.
 
2012-07-26 10:57:35 AM

HotWingConspiracy: randomjsa: So basically he thinks police should go on strike in order to force the public to comply with demands.

That's nothing new, every police union in the nation uses the threat of strike during contract negotiations.


Negative. Strikes by Public Safety employees, namely, police, fire, and EMS are patently illegal and in doing so, they would immediately forfeit their lucrative (in the PD and FD, not nearly so in EMS) jobs without recourse.
 
2012-07-26 11:01:10 AM

Giltric: Yes, America...the melting pot. A country where once we get here we all split up into our little groups whether it be based on country of origin, religion, political party etc...... and remain loyal to our group first and foremost before our fellow" Americans".

I'd wager that most of the violence stems from one person wanting what another person has....kids shoot/stab/set fire to eachother for sneakers...because they believe they are entitled to someone elses belongings.....

If you noticed the first question I asked, which is even quoted in your response....I wonder if ther eis a difference in regards to violence in nations with homogenous people and countries where people come from all different tribes so to speak.


I seriously don't understand, you know what this thread is about right? Your original comment is implicitly about the Colorado massacre or you're just babbling about how one "tribe" kills another for
"sneakers."

What tribe was James Holmes being loyal to? According to your hypothesis about intercine tribal conflict in America, what tribes were fighting each other in that theater? Or are you just some thread shiatting troll that's slipped through my ignore filter?
 
2012-07-26 11:01:36 AM

Esc7: I just want what I see overseas. A country where massacres like this don't happen as often as they do.


What you want is probably going to require much greater access to mental healthcare and a major cultural change. The former would require single-payer healthcare aka SOSHULIZM and the latter would probably require killing every American and starting the USA over from scratch.

I'll let you work out the likelihood of either of those things happening.
 
2012-07-26 11:03:18 AM

Esc7: Giltric: Yes, America...the melting pot. A country where once we get here we all split up into our little groups whether it be based on country of origin, religion, political party etc...... and remain loyal to our group first and foremost before our fellow" Americans".

I'd wager that most of the violence stems from one person wanting what another person has....kids shoot/stab/set fire to eachother for sneakers...because they believe they are entitled to someone elses belongings.....

If you noticed the first question I asked, which is even quoted in your response....I wonder if ther eis a difference in regards to violence in nations with homogenous people and countries where people come from all different tribes so to speak.

I seriously don't understand, you know what this thread is about right? Your original comment is implicitly about the Colorado massacre or you're just babbling about how one "tribe" kills another for
"sneakers."

What tribe was James Holmes being loyal to? According to your hypothesis about intercine tribal conflict in America, what tribes were fighting each other in that theater? Or are you just some thread shiatting troll that's slipped through my ignore filter?


OWS
 
2012-07-26 11:04:07 AM

HotWingConspiracy: way south: HotWingConspiracy: randomjsa: So basically he thinks police should go on strike in order to force the public to comply with demands.

That's nothing new, every police union in the nation uses the threat of strike during contract negotiations.

True, but Cops going on strike to demand that criminals obey the law sounds like a plan that wasn't thought all the way through.

That's not really what he was saying, but ok.


In effect it is, unless you are hiring the Gestapo to make things safer for the cops.


/Laws are not what makes one safe.
 
2012-07-26 11:04:27 AM

Giltric: Esc7: Giltric: Yes, America...the melting pot. A country where once we get here we all split up into our little groups whether it be based on country of origin, religion, political party etc...... and remain loyal to our group first and foremost before our fellow" Americans".

I'd wager that most of the violence stems from one person wanting what another person has....kids shoot/stab/set fire to eachother for sneakers...because they believe they are entitled to someone elses belongings.....

If you noticed the first question I asked, which is even quoted in your response....I wonder if ther eis a difference in regards to violence in nations with homogenous people and countries where people come from all different tribes so to speak.

I seriously don't understand, you know what this thread is about right? Your original comment is implicitly about the Colorado massacre or you're just babbling about how one "tribe" kills another for
"sneakers."

What tribe was James Holmes being loyal to? According to your hypothesis about intercine tribal conflict in America, what tribes were fighting each other in that theater? Or are you just some thread shiatting troll that's slipped through my ignore filter?

OWS


Thank you. Really. I mean it.
 
2012-07-26 11:07:00 AM

farkityfarker: As far as I'm aware, gun violence in NYC is way down since they instated their policy of all guns being illegal.

Does anyone have numbers that show otherwise?


I don't have any data either way. Was it just "gun violence" that was down or was violent crime/homicides down as well? Was the decrease in violence only in NYC or did other cities without similar gun laws also see a reduction during that period?
 
2012-07-26 11:08:37 AM

medic2731: HotWingConspiracy: randomjsa: So basically he thinks police should go on strike in order to force the public to comply with demands.

That's nothing new, every police union in the nation uses the threat of strike during contract negotiations.

Negative. Strikes by Public Safety employees, namely, police, fire, and EMS are patently illegal and in doing so, they would immediately forfeit their lucrative (in the PD and FD, not nearly so in EMS) jobs without recourse.


Yeah that's why they don't call it a strike and all come down with the flu.
 
2012-07-26 11:09:12 AM

way south: In effect it is


No.
 
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