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2012-07-26 08:06:02 AM
He did?
 
2012-07-26 08:12:20 AM

vygramul: He did?

The president said more must be done to keep weapons from criminals and the mentally unstable


Yes, he did.
 
2012-07-26 08:39:51 AM

Baron Harkonnen: vygramul: He did?

The president said more must be done to keep weapons from criminals and the mentally unstable

Yes, he did.


Well that does cover pretty much all the conservatives.
 
2012-07-26 09:01:32 AM

Baron Harkonnen: vygramul: He did?

The president said more must be done to keep weapons from criminals and the mentally unstable

Yes, he did.


AND EVERYONE KNOWS THAT BEING "TOUGH ON CRIME" IS A LIBERAL PLOT TO GIVE ALL YOUR PERSONAL, LEGALLY-REGISTERED GUNS TO THE UN OR SOMETHING

By the way, my personal thanks to Ronald "Goatfarker" Reagan for the state of our mental institutions. CERTAINLY nothing bad will ever come from ejecting paranoid schizophrenics out into the streets to fend for themselves. It saves the government a bunch of money they can spend on a trial later when he shoots some woman in the face thinking she's a demon.
 
2012-07-26 09:57:47 AM
from that same speech:

"I, like most Americans, believe that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual the right to bear arms. I think we recognize the traditions of gun ownership that passed on from generation to generation. That hunting and shooting are part of a cherished national heritage."

yup, typical gun-grabber stuff. :rolleyes:
 
2012-07-26 10:11:16 AM
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2012-07-26 10:12:43 AM

FlashHarry: from that same speech:

"I, like most Americans, believe that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual the right to bear arms. I think we recognize the traditions of gun ownership that passed on from generation to generation. That hunting and shooting are part of a cherished national heritage."

yup, typical gun-grabber stuff. :rolleyes:


I need a mini gun to protect my dirt and to take down varmints.
 
2012-07-26 10:13:35 AM

Baron Harkonnen: vygramul: He did?

The president said more must be done to keep weapons from criminals and the mentally unstable

Yes, he did.


Except for the whole part about your right to hunt and possess handguns, yes. Oh, and laws already exist, though are mostly ineffective thanks to the NRA, that keep guns away from criminals and the mentally unstable.

So how's he coming for your guns? Are you saying you are a criminal or mentally unstable?
 
2012-07-26 10:25:32 AM
I still do not understand the conservative cognitive dissonance when it comes to this issue.

Voter fraud: "We think that someone, somewhere, might have committed voter fraud, but we have no proof. Still, we'd rather risk disenfranchising several thousand legal voters if it stops one illegal voter."

Guns: "We'd rather have nutballs murder a dozen people every year or two, than risk having any guns prohibited from being owned."
 
2012-07-26 10:33:39 AM

Blues_X: I still do not understand the conservative cognitive dissonance when it comes to this issue.

Voter fraud: "We think that someone, somewhere, might have committed voter fraud, but we have no proof. Still, we'd rather risk disenfranchising several thousand legal voters if it stops one illegal voter."

Guns: "We'd rather have nutballs murder a dozen people every year or two, than risk having any guns prohibited from being owned."


That isn't about voter fraud at all, though, that is about poor, non whites being cut off from voting.
 
2012-07-26 10:34:39 AM

FlashHarry: from that same speech:

"I, like most Americans, believe that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual the right to bear arms. I think we recognize the traditions of gun ownership that passed on from generation to generation. That hunting and shooting are part of a cherished national heritage."

yup, typical gun-grabber stuff. :rolleyes:


That's what the Second Amendment says, right? Americans may keep and bear arms in order to protect shooting and hunting as a cherished tradition?
 
2012-07-26 10:40:46 AM

vygramul: He did?


Yes, if you're mentally unstable.
 
2012-07-26 10:57:49 AM
The third rail is cocked and loaded, and no one is going to poke it.

There are plenty of left-leaning guys out there who enjoy shooting as a hobby too, you know.
 
2012-07-26 10:59:51 AM
The problem with this issue is that it has become far too polarized. One side are the NRA trolls who think there should be no limits at all on the type/amount of guns we can buy, or WHO can buy them. On the other side are the 100% anti-gun trolls, who would like nothing better than to rid the entire world of firearms of all types. There is literally no middle ground that either side is willing to even address, much less act on, and those that dare suggest compromises are all but ignored.

Personally, the 2nd amendment needs to be rethought for a modern era. The founding fathers never intended for there to be a standing army, thus their use of the militia clause in the amendment. Also, I doubt that even in their wildest dreams would they have envisioned the kind firepower that is at our disposal today. I doubt Jefferson and Madison would have been cool with arming the colonists with UZis and auto shotguns
 
2012-07-26 11:02:57 AM
I demand that psychopaths be heavily armed at all times, especially if they've committed multiple felonies.
 
2012-07-26 11:04:39 AM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: The problem with this issue is that it has become far too polarized. One side are the NRA trolls who think there should be no limits at all on the type/amount of guns we can buy, or WHO can buy them. On the other side are the 100% anti-gun trolls, who would like nothing better than to rid the entire world of firearms of all types. There is literally no middle ground that either side is willing to even address, much less act on, and those that dare suggest compromises are all but ignored.

Personally, the 2nd amendment needs to be rethought for a modern era. The founding fathers never intended for there to be a standing army, thus their use of the militia clause in the amendment. Also, I doubt that even in their wildest dreams would they have envisioned the kind firepower that is at our disposal today. I doubt Jefferson and Madison would have been cool with arming the colonists with UZis and auto shotguns


OK, I'm calling bullshiat on the entire first paragraph, because I'm one of the most vocal anti-gun and I wrote in this very thread and others that banning hunting or handguns would be wrong.

If you're going to try to be high and mighty, don't blatantly make shiat up.
 
2012-07-26 11:11:24 AM

GAT_00: Grand_Moff_Joseph: The problem with this issue is that it has become far too polarized. One side are the NRA trolls who think there should be no limits at all on the type/amount of guns we can buy, or WHO can buy them. On the other side are the 100% anti-gun trolls, who would like nothing better than to rid the entire world of firearms of all types. There is literally no middle ground that either side is willing to even address, much less act on, and those that dare suggest compromises are all but ignored.

Personally, the 2nd amendment needs to be rethought for a modern era. The founding fathers never intended for there to be a standing army, thus their use of the militia clause in the amendment. Also, I doubt that even in their wildest dreams would they have envisioned the kind firepower that is at our disposal today. I doubt Jefferson and Madison would have been cool with arming the colonists with UZis and auto shotguns

OK, I'm calling bullshiat on the entire first paragraph, because I'm one of the most vocal anti-gun and I wrote in this very thread and others that banning hunting or handguns would be wrong.

If you're going to try to be high and mighty, don't blatantly make shiat up.


I wrote that in the context of the national policy debate between government entities and interested outside groups. There are absolutely "middle ground" folks out there among the populous, and on this forum (yourself included). What I was trying to say is that when middle ground folks try to poke their head into the larger debate, they get drowned out by the wingnuts on both sides.
 
2012-07-26 11:12:23 AM
Maybe he wasn't addressing you personally, GAT.
 
2012-07-26 11:16:28 AM
Conservatives are crazy so...I'm ok with this.
 
2012-07-26 11:20:07 AM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: GAT_00: Grand_Moff_Joseph: The problem with this issue is that it has become far too polarized. One side are the NRA trolls who think there should be no limits at all on the type/amount of guns we can buy, or WHO can buy them. On the other side are the 100% anti-gun trolls, who would like nothing better than to rid the entire world of firearms of all types. There is literally no middle ground that either side is willing to even address, much less act on, and those that dare suggest compromises are all but ignored.

Personally, the 2nd amendment needs to be rethought for a modern era. The founding fathers never intended for there to be a standing army, thus their use of the militia clause in the amendment. Also, I doubt that even in their wildest dreams would they have envisioned the kind firepower that is at our disposal today. I doubt Jefferson and Madison would have been cool with arming the colonists with UZis and auto shotguns

OK, I'm calling bullshiat on the entire first paragraph, because I'm one of the most vocal anti-gun and I wrote in this very thread and others that banning hunting or handguns would be wrong.

If you're going to try to be high and mighty, don't blatantly make shiat up.

I wrote that in the context of the national policy debate between government entities and interested outside groups. There are absolutely "middle ground" folks out there among the populous, and on this forum (yourself included). What I was trying to say is that when middle ground folks try to poke their head into the larger debate, they get drowned out by the wingnuts on both sides.


I'm aware that I am the fringe left, which is why i assumed that was targeted at me. Hell, are there even groups out there calling for a return to the assault weapons ban?
 
2012-07-26 11:21:50 AM

Calmamity: Maybe he wasn't addressing you personally, GAT.


Yeah, but within the context of this site, is there anyone really more anti-gun and vocal about it than me?

That's why I assumed.
 
2012-07-26 11:32:24 AM

GAT_00: OK, I'm calling bullshiat on the entire first paragraph, because I'm one of the most vocal anti-gun and I wrote in this very thread and others that banning hunting or handguns would be wrong.


In this thread maybe but I work with multiple older women who think all semi-automatic rifles and handguns should be banned.
 
2012-07-26 11:34:29 AM

GAT_00: Calmamity: Maybe he wasn't addressing you personally, GAT.

Yeah, but within the context of this site, is there anyone really more anti-gun and vocal about it than me?

That's why I assumed.


Fair enough, though fear not my friend - that was not directed at you.

/my apologies if it came across that way
 
2012-07-26 11:35:18 AM
Let's apply the Chik-fil-A rationale

Obama said AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers.

You cannot therefore deduce that he believes AK-47s do NOT belong in the hands of civilians.
 
2012-07-26 11:41:05 AM

Calmamity: The third rail is cocked and loaded, and no one is going to poke it.

There are plenty of left-leaning guys out there who enjoy shooting as a hobby too, you know.


Yeah, this close to the election I'd be pretty shocked if either side proposed anything specific.

Criminals and mentally ill people shouldn't have guns! Well, no shiat. Then he mentions an AK-47...which wasn't involved in any recent mass shooting in the US that I know of, but it sounds pretty scary, I guess.
 
2012-07-26 11:41:31 AM

CreamFilling: FlashHarry: from that same speech:

"I, like most Americans, believe that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual the right to bear arms. I think we recognize the traditions of gun ownership that passed on from generation to generation. That hunting and shooting are part of a cherished national heritage."

yup, typical gun-grabber stuff. :rolleyes:

That's what the Second Amendment says, right? Americans may keep and bear arms in order to protect shooting and hunting as a cherished tradition?


What does this even mean? Can you read what he said.. the first part or can you only focus on the last part of what was said
 
2012-07-26 11:41:36 AM

Grand_Moff_Joseph: GAT_00: Calmamity: Maybe he wasn't addressing you personally, GAT.

Yeah, but within the context of this site, is there anyone really more anti-gun and vocal about it than me?

That's why I assumed.

Fair enough, though fear not my friend - that was not directed at you.

/my apologies if it came across that way


Not offended, I just...I've been mischaracterized a LOT lately, because I've held positions deemed unpopular. You get touchy about that.
 
2012-07-26 11:43:59 AM

Baron Harkonnen: vygramul: He did?

The president said more must be done to keep weapons from criminals and the mentally unstable

Yes, he did.


Is that seriously the whole quote?
 
2012-07-26 11:45:17 AM
What I heard:

Standard political speech about the problem of gun violence, with Sideshow bob's mental health thrown in.

What the NRA will hear.

"I'M COMING FOR ALL YOUR GUNS AND YOUR WHITE WOMEN!"
 
2012-07-26 11:47:59 AM

GAT_00: Grand_Moff_Joseph: GAT_00: Calmamity: Maybe he wasn't addressing you personally, GAT.

Yeah, but within the context of this site, is there anyone really more anti-gun and vocal about it than me?

That's why I assumed.

Fair enough, though fear not my friend - that was not directed at you.

/my apologies if it came across that way

Not offended, I just...I've been mischaracterized a LOT lately, because I've held positions deemed unpopular. You get touchy about that.


understood. :)
 
2012-07-26 11:59:34 AM
the Right WIng is screaming out loud to Obama "How dare you not fit into our narrative!!!"
 
2012-07-26 11:59:44 AM
If manadory drug testing is required to get welfare, it should be required to get a gun too.
 
2012-07-26 11:59:53 AM
I know Bush took a ton of guns, the pawn shops were full of them.
 
2012-07-26 12:00:10 PM
the mentally unstable

Freepers?
 
2012-07-26 12:00:22 PM
Mitt Romney strongly defended the Second Amendment saying, "Well, this person shouldn't have had any kind of weapons and bombs and other devices, and it was illegal for him to have many of those things already."
 
2012-07-26 12:00:40 PM
He came for the guns of criminals. I said nothing because I wasn't a criminal.
He came for the guns of mentally unstable. I said nothing because I wasn't mentally unstable.
Then he came for my guns. Nobody could save me from the King of England taking over America.

/I don't think I did that right.
 
2012-07-26 12:01:20 PM

Baron Harkonnen: vygramul: He did?

The president said more must be done to keep weapons from criminals and the mentally unstable

Yes, he did.


So stopping someone from buying a gun is exactly the same as taking a gun from someone who obtained it legally.
 
2012-07-26 12:01:50 PM

GAT_00: Not offended, I just...I've been mischaracterized a LOT lately, because I've held positions deemed unpopular. You get touchy about that.


You do not, liar! Fark off!

/Wow, flying on caffeine and Sudafed.
 
2012-07-26 12:02:26 PM

Dinki: Baron Harkonnen: vygramul: He did?

The president said more must be done to keep weapons from criminals and the mentally unstable

Yes, he did.

Well that does cover pretty much all the conservatives.


Came to say pretty much all that. How long til they credit Obama with Bloomberg's remarks?
 
2012-07-26 12:02:34 PM
That's exactly what he said!!! OMFG! It's like no one wants to pay attention in the LAMESTREAMMEDIA about what BALACK INSANE NOBAMA is trying to do hear in America! History's greatest monster and who would know if we didn't have BreitFark.com and it's misleading headlines and ads to donate to Joe Arpaio and little side polls asking our thoughts on Michelle Bachmann. Thank You BreitfFark.com! I hope someone paints a painting of you in armor soon!!!!

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2012-07-26 12:02:44 PM
And you know, he who warned the British that they weren't going to be taking away our arms, by ringing those bells and making sure, as he is riding his horse through town, to send those warning shots and bells, that we were going to be secure and we were going to be free.
 
2012-07-26 12:04:04 PM
Talk about exceptionally bad timing. The gun-tards are still wishing they were packing and in that theater and Fartbongo already said this is not about Aurora it is about inner-city gun violence but there are too few smart enough to hear the difference.
 
2012-07-26 12:05:39 PM
He's a gun grabbing, tax and spend, socialist, commie liberal.

Of course he is going to say things like this.
 
2012-07-26 12:06:51 PM
Another day, another GOP twisting of Obama's words to fit what they WANT him to say so they can hate him for it.
 
2012-07-26 12:06:57 PM

Philip Francis Queeg: Mitt Romney strongly defended the Second Amendment saying, "Well, this person shouldn't have had any kind of weapons and bombs and other devices, and it was illegal for him to have many of those things already."


Seriously. If they hammer Obama for "trying to grab their guns" Romney should get 4x the flak for saying this stuff is already illegal (implying he thinks it should be). He also actually signed a weapons ban in Massachusetts.

/cognitive dissonance, in my GOP? Unpossible!
 
2012-07-26 12:07:54 PM
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2012-07-26 12:08:13 PM
I'm pro-gun, but you really can't argue with this ..

The president said more must be done to keep weapons from criminals and the mentally unstable
 
2012-07-26 12:08:23 PM

bulldg4life: He's a gun grabbing, tax and spend, socialist, commie liberal.

Of course he is going to say things like this.


You forgot to call him Fartbongo. That is always funny and really helps get your point across.
 
2012-07-26 12:08:33 PM
Yea, good thing Romney would never support an assault rifle ba..........

Link

"Romney, who enacted an assault weapons ban as governor of Massachusetts (with the support of a Democratic legislature) would not say whether he still believes that weapons like the AR-15 assault rifle used in the Colorado shooting were "instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people," as he described them during the bill signing ceremony in 2002.
 
2012-07-26 12:09:52 PM
So the gun-grabbing gun grabber is going to start grabbing guns?
 
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