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(Yahoo)   At your next job interview ask for unlimited vacation time AND a salary   ( divider line
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2012-07-26 12:55:29 PM  
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2012-07-26 02:44:12 PM  
Entrepreneur Magazine had a story like this about 2-3 months ago how companies are starting to keep less track of hours and more time focusing on getting the work done....and unlimited always Yahoo is super late to the party.
2012-07-26 02:44:55 PM  
Uhm, yeah. The real world is more like this:

1. More work than could ever be done by a single human, even working 24/7.
2. Always scheduled because always needed.
3. Vacation accrual builds.
4. Vacation accrual bumps threshhold above which it doesn't accue any more, triggering government inquest (gubmint job).
5. Vacation forced on you because you have hours bumping threshhold.
6. Go on vacation to reduce accrual hours.
7. Have to work off the clock to get stuff done without accruing more vacation hours.
8. Pointless red tape screwing everything up.
2012-07-26 09:17:07 PM  

postnobills: This is a real double-edged sword. If they implemented this at my job, although it would be great on paper I would never get even a single day off because my boss would never approve one. She does not "believe" in vacation time just like she doesn't "believe" in overtime or a 40-hour week. Fine if she wants to work 80-100 hours every week, 364 days a year more power to her, but she expects everyone under her to do the same (seriously, she left pissed-off "where are you?" voicemails for everybody when we didn't all go back to work after the Christmas party...)

The only way I get any days off is I have the corporate policy that says 30 days PTO to shove in her face. I'm still working on the overtime thing...

Yeah, this sounds like another one of Silicon Valley's clever ploys to extract more work out of it's employees. When vacation time is a defined benefit with a cap on the amount you can carry over, only the most sadistic bosses would force you to not use it at all. With 'unlimited vacation' they're setting up quite the Catch-22. Sure, you can take all the time off you want, all you have to do is keep up with your workload. But how do you keep up with work if you're on vacation? (don't give me the 'working vacation' horseshiat, when I go on leave, as far as work is concerned I may as well be on Mars). So in practice you get almost no vacation, and the company doesn't look like it's denying you a benefit they promised you.

It's a bit like all the free stuff Google provides at it's offices. Sure it sounds awesome, but then you realize they provide in order to facilitate a work culture where 12 hour days are the norm. You may never see the sun for months at a time, but, hey, free sushi in the break room...
2012-07-26 10:56:32 PM  

wildcardjack: I wouldn't be surprised if the future of most white collar work is to have a small office with a few meeting rooms and everyone works from home. An office is no longer a specialized space.

zez: My wife talked her boss into letting her work from home 2 days a week (which is kind of odd since I can almost see her office from our house) but she gets more done than she ever does actually being in the office, and that includes conference calls and and web based instruction (she's a trainer).

Careful what you wish for.

If your job can be done from home, it can be done from India.
2012-07-28 03:47:55 PM  
certainly a double edged sword. My sister and her husband work from home. But they are expected to function in their job seven days a week if need be. Went on vacation and he had to do conference calls.
I think that is much more likely to happen in the work from home world because of the type of work (projects with specific deadlines) that lends itself to.
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