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2012-07-25 03:39:21 PM  
That was depressing. Loe used to be pretty reliable. Man, what happened to this team?
 
2012-07-25 04:15:10 PM  
I thought the Phillies bullpen was bad this year. I had to pinch myself watching that game to make sure I wasn't dreaming.
 
2012-07-25 04:27:06 PM  
Well, now that we know the Braves are willing to part with Randall Delgado, let's hope they get this guy instead of Dempster, who is apparently just fine finishing the year on a 100-loss team. Which is cool. Not everyone has the guts for a pennant race.
 
2012-07-25 04:30:48 PM  
watching the brewers implode now so i'm getting a kick.


/TRADE THE FARKER MELVIN!!!
 
2012-07-25 04:35:08 PM  
The O's are undefeated when leading after 7 inning this year.

I think the Pirates may be too.
 
2012-07-25 04:35:32 PM  
And the thing that pisses me off is that they need so much help that they're not likely to be good for a few years since they're not a team to go out and buy talent.

2nd base...starting pitching...bullpen...CF..
 
2012-07-25 04:40:49 PM  

Moron Police: And the thing that pisses me off is that they need so much help that they're not likely to be good for a few years since they're not a team to go out and buy talent.

2nd base...starting pitching...bullpen...CF..


I knew they had bought their way to the post season the last 2 trips they made. And I knew losing Prince and Craig Counsel would hurt them. I had no idea the team would waft between AAA ugliness and Astro ineptness. Thankfully the Cubs exist.
 
2012-07-25 04:45:40 PM  

Nadie_AZ: That was depressing. Loe used to be pretty reliable. Man, what happened to this team?


Step 1: Lose your starting shortstop and never find a worthwhile replacement
Step 2: Have your starting second baseman put up some of the worst numbers in the league
Step 3: Have your bullpen lose 18 games in the opposing teams' final at-bat

Follow these 3 simple steps and you too can suck like the Brewers.

The positives:
1. Aoki and Hart have been great. I know Hart is slightly down offensively, but his defense at first has been great. Also, he is super streaky and will go on a 2 week streak of .500 hitting and end the season around .270 and 20 HRs.
2. Mike Fiers is fantastic and just locked himself a starting spot next year.
3. The Ramirez slump ended as predicted.
4. Maldonado was great as a fill in for Lucroy.
5. Lucroy, assuming he comes back and continues producing.

The saddness:
1. Steps 1-3 above.
2. What do you do with Gamel?
3. The rotation next year should be Yo, Narveson, Estrada, Fiers, and ? Putting Greinke back in their would be awesome.
4. RIP Shaun Marcum.
5. What do you do with Martin Maldonado?
6. Who is going to play shortstop, second, and center field?
 
2012-07-25 04:48:33 PM  
Let's see if KRod can close this game.

6-5 bot 10th
 
2012-07-25 04:53:02 PM  

eagles95: watching the brewers implode now so i'm getting a kick.


/TRADE THE FARKER MELVIN!!!


Last year was a fluke. We trade away all of our talent in July every year. It's why we never have a good team.
 
2012-07-25 04:54:20 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Moron Police: And the thing that pisses me off is that they need so much help that they're not likely to be good for a few years since they're not a team to go out and buy talent.

2nd base...starting pitching...bullpen...CF..

I knew they had bought their way to the post season the last 2 trips they made. And I knew losing Prince and Craig Counsel would hurt them. I had no idea the team would waft between AAA ugliness and Astro ineptness. Thankfully the Cubs exist.


I see it more as targeted trades to get over the top. When I hear "buying into the postseason" I think of the Marlins dumping payroll the year after a postseason appearance. The Brewers have just had key free agents leave because they were offered huge contracts that the Brewers, rightfully so, had no interest in matching.

In 08, you knew CC was going to leave so the sucking in 09 and 10 wasn't as difficult to swallow.

The Brewers made the postseason last year with Casey McGhee and Yuni Betancourt seeing significant playing time.

Who knew the loss of LaTroy Hawkins and Takashi Saito were going to be major factors? I sure didn't.
 
2012-07-25 04:59:37 PM  

robbiex0r: Let's see if KRod can close this game.

6-5 bot 10th


*facepalm*
 
2012-07-25 05:04:22 PM  

roc6783: 4. RIP Shaun Marcum.
5. What do you do with Martin Maldonado?
6. Who is going to play shortstop, second, and center field?


Marcum hasn't been the same since the post season last year.

Trade him for a shiny new Shortstop?

As for second, I'm not sure. Weeks is improving. But he misses his buddy.

Center field is platoon central, with all 3 doing pretty well within their limited abilities.

roc6783: Who knew the loss of LaTroy Hawkins and Takashi Saito were going to be major factors? I sure didn't.


I was curious, too. Every time I see Veras, I figure the lead is lost. Every. Time. I've little better faith in Rodriguez.
 
2012-07-25 05:12:44 PM  
This is why baseball sucks.

roc6783: Step 1: Lose your starting shortstop and never find a worthwhile replacement
Step 2: Have your starting second baseman put up some of the worst numbers in the league
Step 3: Have your bullpen lose 18 games in the opposing teams' final at-bat

Follow these 3 simple steps and you too can suck like the Brewers.


Step 1. Make decent signs and identify good new ball players.
Step 2. Be a small market team with no money.
Step 3. Trade away anyone and everyone you know is good because you can't afford them.

Follow these 3 simple steps and you too can suck like the small market baseball teams.
 
2012-07-25 05:17:05 PM  
Orioles please.
 
2012-07-25 05:20:00 PM  

Nadie_AZ: roc6783: 4. RIP Shaun Marcum.
5. What do you do with Martin Maldonado?
6. Who is going to play shortstop, second, and center field?

Marcum hasn't been the same since the post season last year.

Trade him for a shiny new Shortstop?

As for second, I'm not sure. Weeks is improving. But he misses his buddy.

Center field is platoon central, with all 3 doing pretty well within their limited abilities.

roc6783: Who knew the loss of LaTroy Hawkins and Takashi Saito were going to be major factors? I sure didn't.

I was curious, too. Every time I see Veras, I figure the lead is lost. Every. Time. I've little better faith in Rodriguez.


Marcum is still on the DL and is only signed through the end of this season so no trade value there. Weeks is not improving at all, but he will be the starter next year. Going from .110 to .190 does not make a you an MLB starter. Gomez is a great bench player (you can't steal first) and Nyjer is gone. If you are calling Aoki the 3rd in that platoon, then he is doing well, but he plays right field.


///And K-Rod gives it up again!! 3 in a row :*(
 
2012-07-25 05:25:45 PM  

lennavan: This is why baseball sucks. ***snip***

Step 1. Make decent signs and identify good new ball players.
Step 2. Be a small market team with no money.
Step 3. Trade away anyone and everyone you know is good because you can't afford them.

Follow these 3 simple steps and you too can suck like the small market baseball teams.


The issue is that the owner is willing to spend money on the team, IF people come out to see it. I am worried that the next two years or so will be spent "rebuilding" and letting guys play for spots with a player added here or there. The Brewers will tread around .500 and fans will lose interest. Then comes the downward sell-off spiral and eventually the sale of the team.

But then again, I'm an optimist.
 
2012-07-25 05:29:12 PM  

roc6783: Marcum is still on the DL and is only signed through the end of this season so no trade value there. Weeks is not improving at all, but he will be the starter next year. Going from .110 to .190 does not make a you an MLB starter. Gomez is a great bench player (you can't steal first) and Nyjer is gone. If you are calling Aoki the 3rd in that platoon, then he is doing well, but he plays right field.


I was suggesting trading Maldonado for a SS. Yes, Gomez and Morgan aren't good hitters but do well on the basepath as well as defensively.

I'll take Aoki anywhere in the field.

roc6783: ///And K-Rod gives it up again!! 3 in a row :*(


More maddening than Betancourt was last year.
 
2012-07-25 05:32:20 PM  
Dear Brewers,

Trade you Greinke for Floyd? We'll throw in a funnel cake if it will sweeten the deal.

Sincerely,
White Sox
 
2012-07-25 05:52:06 PM  

roc6783: Nadie_AZ: That was depressing. Loe used to be pretty reliable. Man, what happened to this team?

Step 1: Lose your starting shortstop and never find a worthwhile replacement
Step 2: Have your starting second baseman put up some of the worst numbers in the league
Step 3: Have your bullpen lose 18 games in the opposing teams' final at-bat

Follow these 3 simple steps and you too can suck like the Brewers.

The positives:
1. Aoki and Hart have been great. I know Hart is slightly down offensively, but his defense at first has been great. Also, he is super streaky and will go on a 2 week streak of .500 hitting and end the season around .270 and 20 HRs.
2. Mike Fiers is fantastic and just locked himself a starting spot next year.
3. The Ramirez slump ended as predicted.
4. Maldonado was great as a fill in for Lucroy.
5. Lucroy, assuming he comes back and continues producing.

The saddness:
1. Steps 1-3 above.
2. What do you do with Gamel?
3. The rotation next year should be Yo, Narveson, Estrada, Fiers, and ? Putting Greinke back in their would be awesome.
4. RIP Shaun Marcum.
5. What do you do with Martin Maldonado?
6. Who is going to play shortstop, second, and center field?


Well Escobar at ss and Cain at cf. Oops you traded them for Zach. Shame Cain missed most of first half. Where did Escobar bat come from?
 
2012-07-25 05:53:37 PM  

Mid_mo_mad_man: Well Escobar at ss and Cain at cf. Oops you traded them for Zach. Shame Cain missed most of first half. Where did Escobar bat come from?


I loved Escobar. I remember one spring training watching him mess with a few pitchers heads with his lead offs and steals. He is so fast.
 
2012-07-25 05:58:08 PM  
Greinke to the Rangers for Profar and another prospect. That'd give the Brewers a young talented SS.
 
2012-07-25 06:17:32 PM  
The Brewers are beyond maddening the past few weeks. The last three days? There are no words to describe the frustration that I'm feeling as a life long brewers fan. I cannot remember a worse bullpen. It's just.....ugh.

I have no idea how Uecker hasn't lost it on the air. You could hear it in his voice during the past few pregames, that even he is frustrated and annoyed at how the team is performing. And he never says anything bad about the team, a player, or the game in general. Ever.
 
2012-07-25 06:26:00 PM  

roc6783: 5. What do you do with Martin Maldonado?


Keep him, absolutely. As much as I like having Kottaras around, he's the one that has to either be traded, sent down, or released. No need to have 3 catchers on the team, and Maldonado has outperformed Kottaras by far.
 
2012-07-25 06:41:13 PM  
Commas and periods in subby's headline: 0
 
2012-07-25 06:55:28 PM  

picodenico: roc6783: 5. What do you do with Martin Maldonado?

Keep him, absolutely. As much as I like having Kottaras around, he's the one that has to either be traded, sent down, or released. No need to have 3 catchers on the team, and Maldonado has outperformed Kottaras by far.


Trade him for a young reliever. FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!
 
2012-07-25 06:57:03 PM  

ChiWhiteSox_56: Dear Brewers,

Trade you Greinke for Floyd? We'll throw in a funnel cake if it will sweeten the deal.

Sincerely,
White Sox


This.

/throw in Humber as well
 
2012-07-25 07:13:53 PM  

professorkowalski: Rangers for Profar


In my opinion, the Rangers' ship is currently leaking too much water to make that big a sacrifice for a shot at an extended playoff run.
 
2012-07-25 07:56:56 PM  

picodenico: The Brewers are beyond maddening the past few weeks. The last three days? There are no words to describe the frustration that I'm feeling as a life long brewers fan. I cannot remember a worse bullpen. It's just.....ugh.

I have no idea how Uecker hasn't lost it on the air. You could hear it in his voice during the past few pregames, that even he is frustrated and annoyed at how the team is performing. And he never says anything bad about the team, a player, or the game in general. Ever.


Today, owner Attanasio was in the booth with him for an inning and Gomez grounded out, to which Attanasio goes, ""Just not his day, is it?"
Ueck: "Yeah. Are we keeping him?!"
 
2012-07-25 09:34:19 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: I had to pinch myself watching that game to make sure I wasn't dreaming.


i512.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-25 09:35:29 PM  

Slow To Return: professorkowalski: Rangers for Profar

In my opinion, the Rangers' ship is currently leaking too much water to make that big a sacrifice for a shot at an extended playoff run.


Andrus would have to make a position change or you'd have to put Profar in CF, to get him a roster spot.

He's the ultimate bargaining chip. 19 yo. No. 1 overall prospect and he could help a team out right away. The Rangers could get whatever they want for Profar.

Or you offer Olt and a pitching prospect for Greinke.
 
2012-07-25 09:51:49 PM  

professorkowalski: The Rangers could get whatever they want for Profar.


Hopefully they want more than a two-to-three month rent-a-pitcher that's going to bolt in the offseason.

Profar's no Smoak.

Hopefully.
 
2012-07-25 10:18:44 PM  

roc6783: Nadie_AZ: That was depressing. Loe used to be pretty reliable. Man, what happened to this team?

Step 1: Lose your starting shortstop and never find a worthwhile replacement
Step 2: Have your starting second baseman put up some of the worst numbers in the league
Step 3: Have your bullpen lose 18 games in the opposing teams' final at-bat

Follow these 3 simple steps and you too can suck like the Brewers.

The positives:
1. Aoki and Hart have been great. I know Hart is slightly down offensively, but his defense at first has been great. Also, he is super streaky and will go on a 2 week streak of .500 hitting and end the season around .270 and 20 HRs.
2. Mike Fiers is fantastic and just locked himself a starting spot next year.
3. The Ramirez slump ended as predicted.
4. Maldonado was great as a fill in for Lucroy.
5. Lucroy, assuming he comes back and continues producing.

The saddness:
1. Steps 1-3 above.
2. What do you do with Gamel?
3. The rotation next year should be Yo, Narveson, Estrada, Fiers, and ? Putting Greinke back in their would be awesome.
4. RIP Shaun Marcum.
5. What do you do with Martin Maldonado?
6. Who is going to play shortstop, second, and center field?


That rotation makes me cringe. Narveson and Estrada are both 4 and 5 guys and nothing better. The Brewers can't lose Wolf, Greinke, and Marcum and expect to able to replace them with, well, nothing. They're going to have to bring in somebody else I think. I realize everything is going to look bad compared to the 2011 rotation, which was one of the best in baseball that year, but ugh. They need another 2 or 3 guy for sure. Could Marcum be that guy? Maybe. Given the Brewers ability to find starting pitchers via free agency, maybe it's better to stick with a known quantity before we go and pull another Suppan-esque deal. You know, the kind that can sink an entire franchise. Like what throwing $12.75 million down a black hole did for the Brewers in 2009 and 2010.

For shortstop, take the option on Gonzalez. He was doing quite well up until the injury hit. I think he's worth the shot for the next year while the farm system recovers. While the Greinke trade was gutsy, we're really, really going to be paying for getting rid of Escobar I think. Maybe I'm just biased because I have a retro Brewers Escobar jersey. I bought it in 2010 when I though for sure he was going to be a career Brewer, because why would you get rid of him?

As for Maldonado? Trade him and keep Kottaras. You'll get more for Maldonado, and I want a lefty PH option besides Taylor Green. I really do like the guy, but we have way too many other needs to keep him I think.

I don't think there's really any question as of what to do with Gamel. Hart is a good outfielder. It is a waste of his defensive talent to have him sitting at 1B instead of RF. Gamel was doing decently well up until his season was cut short as well.

Keep Gomez for CF. There are a lot of options for Aoki: You could keep him to platoon, but you might able to fetch something pretty nice for him on the trade block. Either way, I wouldn't expect Aoki to stay after the 2013 season, just because some team somewhere is going to overpay him. Before you give me that look about Gomez, so far this year he's been hitting slightly better, striking out less, and walking more. And I really like his defense, because even when the bat goes cold, he can still contribute, which leads me to...

Rickie motherfarking Weeks. Unfortunately, I think the Brewers are stuck with this guy at 2B. Before when he was hitting well it was easy for me to look beyond the atrocious fielding, but after his cold-as-hell spell he had this year, it bothers me to no end how bad this guy is in the field. While he really should be sent off to the AL to be a DH, I think we're kinda stuck with him for the foreseeable future.
 
2012-07-26 12:07:57 AM  

Slow To Return: professorkowalski: The Rangers could get whatever they want for Profar.

Hopefully they want more than a two-to-three month rent-a-pitcher that's going to bolt in the offseason.

Profar's no Smoak.

Hopefully.


Profar is, from the sampling I've seen him play, completely ready to jump to the Rangers. Same with Olt. They just have nowhere to play either of them.
 
2012-07-26 03:21:19 AM  
Please don't come back to the AL Central, Grinke.
 
2012-07-26 08:59:24 AM  

professorkowalski: They just have nowhere to play either of them.


That's what they said about Andrus, too, but that worked out pretty well.

I've caught a few RoughRiders games myself this year (I live in Frisco) and certainly agree with your assessment. If the Brewers can get either one of those guys (or even that Beltre kid) for a pitcher they're losing in two months anyway, wow what a coup.
 
2012-07-26 10:58:49 AM  

Slow To Return: I've caught a few RoughRiders games myself this year (I live in Frisco) and certainly agree with your assessment. If the Brewers can get either one of those guys (or even that Beltre kid) for a pitcher they're losing in two months anyway, wow what a coup.


Beltre's a good power source, but he has other issues, character issues mostly.

Leury Garcia though. The other Frisco middle IF, is gonna be god damn good as well.
 
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