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(The New York Times)   The proliferation of nominalizations in a discursive formation may be an indication of a tendency toward pomposity and abstraction   (opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com) divider line 26
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2012-07-25 01:07:07 PM
My cat's breath smells like cat food.
 
2012-07-25 01:14:58 PM
This is all perfectly cromulent.
 
2012-07-25 01:15:04 PM
Time for some good ol'-fashioned Anglo-Saxon Anglish!
 
2012-07-25 01:17:21 PM
Must eat vvvvveeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrrbbbbbbsssssss.
 
2012-07-25 01:21:51 PM
wallpapermi.com
 
2012-07-25 01:49:52 PM
I like the pedantic aspect of this headline's sesquipedalian circumlocutions, and find it's overall presentation highly risible.
 
2012-07-25 01:49:58 PM
wat?
 
2012-07-25 01:54:29 PM
it's far preferable to eschew such obfuscating prolixity
 
2012-07-25 01:57:30 PM
tl;dr version: "Good writers use lots of verbs. Every time you turn a verb into a noun, God kills a puppy."

Funny, I posted this article somewhere else this morning, but didn't even consider offering it up here.
 
2012-07-25 02:02:47 PM
The greenification of the link is an illustration of the correctness of the author's assertion. My predictifications are that subsequentized comments will be amplifications.

/slashiatude
 
2012-07-25 02:12:27 PM
Assholes use big words?

/ and your shiat's all retarded
 
2012-07-25 02:22:42 PM
Verbing weirds nouns.
-Calvin (OK, OK: Watterson)

Adjectival nominalization licks donkey taint.
-Helen "S" Word


/Suck it, Trebek.
 
2012-07-25 02:40:50 PM
Language evolves

/farking nazis
 
Zel
2012-07-25 03:26:15 PM

Any Pie Left: I like the pedantic aspect of this headline's sesquipedalian circumlocutions, and find it's overall presentation highly risible.


O'h G'od I' ho'pe tha't wa's inten'tion'al.


I have found in the sciences, as well as politics, bigger words are used to give more precision to the statement, and smaller verbs are used to evade responsibility. Note my passive tense excusing any factual distinction that may be brought up in subsequent replies.

//in conjunction with a healthy diet and excersize, Cheerios may help reduce cholesterol.
 
2012-07-25 04:21:49 PM
Things I hate:

1. Turning adjectives into nouns. Teatards do this with "illegals," while WoW players do it with "bads."

2. Using transitive verbs as intransitive verbs. Some verbs require objects. That new movie/book/video game will not "release" next Friday. Some company will release the it. I see this with lots of other words these days, too, and it's very, very annoying.

No, you're not seeing the language evolve. You're seeing a particular mistake made popular by the internet in just the last couple of years. Language may change, but it still has rules.

It doesn't help that intentionally bad grammar has become so popular with people who enjoy internet humor.
 
2012-07-25 04:46:53 PM

NetOwl: Things I hate:

1. Turning adjectives into nouns. Teatards do this with "illegals," while WoW players do it with "bads."

2. Using transitive verbs as intransitive verbs. Some verbs require objects. That new movie/book/video game will not "release" next Friday. Some company will release the it. I see this with lots of other words these days, too, and it's very, very annoying.

No, you're not seeing the language evolve. You're seeing a particular mistake made popular by the internet in just the last couple of years. Language may change, but it still has rules.

It doesn't help that intentionally bad grammar has become so popular with people who enjoy internet humor.


The sports terminology of the last 10 years I can't stand.

"Without Joebob Blowhard at left tackle, we don't win that game"

Hey numbskull, it's "we wouldn't have won that game" !!
 
2012-07-25 04:48:31 PM
www.smidgeindustriesltd.com
 
2012-07-25 04:50:34 PM

Smidge204: [www.smidgeindustriesltd.com image 390x503]


I type corrected.

/Favorited.
 
2012-07-25 04:58:57 PM

NetOwl: 1. Turning adjectives into nouns. Teatards do this with "illegals," while WoW players do it with "bads."


A: This has been a standard feature of language evolution since language started. Basically any word that's both a noun and a verb (e.g. "devil", "cow", etc) didn't start out that way. If you allow archaic word definitions it gets even worse (the old "Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo" sentence would be the ur-example of how this gets confusing as far as US English is concerned, probably).

B: "Bad" as a noun dates back to literary criticism in the first half of the 20th century, it's an abbreviation of "big bad", which is in turn a shortening of "big bad wolf". It describes the antagonist of a story, with the dismissive implication that the story is childish or overly simplistic. So it's not actually a nominalization as such so much as a contraction.

C: No one calls things 'bads' in MMOs unless you're playing with children or retarded folk (I guess that's possible, given you're talking about WoW). The usual term is "mob", short for "mobile [unit]", a holdover term from MUDs, the precursor to MMOs. You had to construct MUDs more or less yourself, and they were mapped as a series of interconnected rooms. Some enemies were features of said rooms, and others could follow a character that tried to flee, their execution not being tied to the module in which they originated (i.e. they were mobile).

You're welcome for the etymology lesson, maybe it will help you remove the stick from your arse regarding perfectly acceptable and normal human linguistic practices.
 
2012-07-25 05:34:23 PM
He makes it sound like abstraction is necessarily a bad thing.
 
2012-07-25 07:08:22 PM
i48.tinypic.com

And all of her pomo ilk.

There is a method behind their madness. As Bertrand Russell said about Hegel: "Hegel's philosophy is so odd that no one would have expected him to be able to get sane men to accept it, but he did. He set it out with so much obscurity that people thought it must be profound."
 
2012-07-25 07:29:20 PM

Zel: Any Pie Left: I like the pedantic aspect of this headline's sesquipedalian circumlocutions, and find it's overall presentation highly risible.

O'h G'od I' ho'pe tha't wa's inten'tion'al.


I have found in the sciences, as well as politics, bigger words are used to give more precision to the statement, and smaller verbs are used to evade responsibility. Note my passive tense excusing any factual distinction that may be brought up in subsequent replies.

//in conjunction with a healthy diet and excersize, Cheerios may help reduce cholesterol.


?????

/I hope that fail was intentioned by you
 
2012-07-25 07:38:38 PM

Any Pie Left: I like the pedantic aspect of this headline's sesquipedalian circumlocutions, and find it's overall presentation highly risible.


That would be a lot more clever had you remembered that possessive "its" has no apostrophe.
 
2012-07-25 08:11:06 PM
Never use a ten dollar word when a ten cent word will do.
 
2012-07-25 09:32:37 PM
aka George Will
www.draftpartyblog.com
 
2012-07-26 12:18:58 AM
FTA:" Yet it fails to tell us who is doing what."

Stopped reading there. You're writing an article about language usage, and you don't have enough grasp of the English language to be able to tell who does what in that sentence? Glad I went to uni in Canada and not Australia.
 
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