I don't think Bush or Obama farked up this country...I'm pretty sure it started with Washington.

/Would have mentioned Clinton but I think we all know who he farked up.
//lolz

Change now!


"now" in valve time

I'm sensing a pattern:

1) Promise "change"
2) Get elected
3) ???
4) Profit

Scary. Reading that, it sounds more true than snarky.

Corvus: Wow subby you must of spent all day figuring out how you could use french politics for your Obama butthurt.

And it gets greenlighted, and the flame war breaks out about Obama v. Bush.

Fark has become useless, even for entertainment.

YOU GUYS REMEMBER WHEN FARK WAS ENTERTAINING? SOME OF US DO.

/lawn.

Sweet Jesus, the trolling threads are approaching critical mass. Could we at least have the funny ones greenlit, instead of agonizing butthurt?

Now he has to somehow explain to his supporters who swept him into power in a wave of anti-austerity populism that there is really very little he can do at this point.

I'm expecting much hilarity to ensue.

/Bienvenue a' une epoque interessante

quatchi: Now he has to somehow explain to his supporters who swept him into power in a wave of anti-austerity populism that there is really very little he can do at this point.

I'm expecting much hilarity to ensue.

/Bienvenue a' une epoque interessante


I can't fathom making such a declarative statement then having nothing to back it up with though. I suppose I see it in bars all the time when some little Napoleon gets bigger then his britches and begins telling the biggest guy there how much better he is then the big guy.

I still don't understand all the bumper stickers I see in the United States that say, "How's all the Hope-y Change-y working out for ya?" Unemployment down, stocks up, jobs up, terrorists hunted and killed, healthcare reformed, war averted, spending cut, taxes cut, country safe, people happy at us again ..... so honestly the hope and change is looking pretty damn good

This is bad news... for Obama.

/amirite?

gwb was a terrible president and screwed up the entire planet.

HellRaisingHoosier: quatchi: Now he has to somehow explain to his supporters who swept him into power in a wave of anti-austerity populism that there is really very little he can do at this point.

I'm expecting much hilarity to ensue.

/Bienvenue a' une epoque interessante


I can't fathom making such a declarative statement then having nothing to back it up with though. I suppose I see it in bars all the time when some little Napoleon gets bigger then his britches and begins telling the biggest guy there how much better he is then the big guy.

I still don't understand all the bumper stickers I see in the United States that say, "How's all the Hope-y Change-y working out for ya?" Unemployment down, stocks up, jobs up, terrorists hunted and killed, healthcare reformed, war averted, spending cut, taxes cut, country safe, people happy at us again ..... so honestly the hope and change is looking pretty damn good

You're missing the point. You should be asking for hate and gloom, not hope and change.

Potato.

yeegrek: Sweet Jesus, the trolling threads are approaching critical mass. Could we at least have the funny ones greenlit, instead of agonizing butthurt?

If you removed all the bullshiat greens, there wouldn't be a politics tab.

He's also holding off his promise to liberalize cannabis laws in France because of the intense political pressure from the Obama administration.

verbaltoxin: It's not hard to understand, trollmitter. Politicians make big promises in the campaign, and get bogged down in you know, politics, when in office.

Not just politics, but reality.

Why didn't Obama close down Gitmo like he promised? Because he quickly figured out that the options were worse - we could send them to their countries of origin who would either release them or torture them to death. We could send them here, but that would be a tempting target for terrorism and no one wants them in their state. So Gitmo, the target of so much of Obama's ire in the campaign, is still open and will remain open for the foreseable future.

Same with Hollande. He got to office on a campaign of left-wing populism, but if he actually enacted what he campaigned on France would end up looking more like Venezuela than Germany. The means of the left can never meet their ends - if you create a society where everyone gets paid a large amount of money regardless of productivity and businesses pay 60% of their revenues in taxes, you get a state that can't even remotely compete in today's world. Instead of raising the standard of living, it lowers it.

Sadly, it's unlikely that Hollande will really "get it" until things get worse in France. With powerful labor unions like the CGT holding huge amounts of power, a pension crisis, the Eurozone crisis, and an aging population, things will probably get much, much worse for France before they get better.

the average salary of a worker in a car plant in France is just 1800 euros a month before taxes, or just €12-€13 an hour. total cost to the employer is roughly double that once social charges are added in.

doesn't seem like much does it? as an intern in Paris I made slightly more than that. minimum wage is just €1400 a month.

the problem: average monthly wages in Slovakia, the current hotbed of car production in Europe, are about €770 a month before taxes. its not just economy cars that are made in Slovakia, but also Porsche Cayennes and Audi Q7s. that is why VW is eating most of its competition in Europe.

@WizardofToast: I believe this makes them bubble blowing douple babies

I love how subby thinks a country needs a dictator, not an elected representative that often finds himself up against a wall of ingrained conservative bullsh*t after taking the oath of office.

And they used to call us liberals starry-eyed and idealistic.

LasersHurt: SwiftFox: He's also holding off his promise to liberalize cannabis laws in France because of the intense political pressure from the Obama administration.

Do you have a link with information regarding this?

No, it was sarcasm referring to Obama's promises and performance in the US.

He's trying to make a failed economic system ( capitalism ) work. It has to die so it can be replaced. A newer and better system can only take over when the old one dies. Capitalisms replacement should probably be one that includes an Amish like self sufficient model that drastically reduces corporate dependency.

You have to expect the main stream press that sucks corporate dick to take every opportunity to be critical of a socialist politician. Any socialist that is not being targeted by them is probably a sell out. When the whore media stops being critical of him I'll start to worry.

WombatControl: Why didn't Obama close down Gitmo like he promised? Because he quickly figured out that the options were worse - we could send them to their countries of origin who would either release them or torture them to death. We could send them here, but that would be a tempting target for terrorism and no one wants them in their state. So Gitmo, the target of so much of Obama's ire in the campaign, is still open and will remain open for the foreseable future.

Illinois was more than ready to host these prisoners and had a vacant prision that was going to be all set to use.

The Republicans were too chickenshiat about it and decided to stall the project until Obama and Congress decided to cancel the whole thing.

Obviously this means I should vote Romney or something....

WizardofToast: I thought France was already socialist. Is it now double socialist?

Socialist²

Bob16: You have to expect the main stream press that sucks corporate dick to take every opportunity to be critical of a socialist politician. Any socialist that is not being targeted by them is probably a sell out. When the whore media stops being critical of him I'll start to worry.

Put more expressively than I would but definitely what I was thinking.

WizardofToast: I thought France was already socialist. Is it now double socialist?

It's makes them Socialists

/soon they'll change their national anthem to the music from that Phil Collins song, and it'll be so-so-socialist