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2012-07-25 10:51:46 AM  
So Republicans are suddenly concerned about women's health in this country?

Rep. Cliff Stearns, R-Fla., who launched a probe into Planned Parenthood earlier this year, is now calling for a public hearing on Capitol Hill. "I would like to put them under oath," he told Fox News. "I would like to find out how they spend our half a billion dollars

Ah, there it is.
 
2012-07-25 10:53:58 AM  
Stearns claims that since he launched a congressional probe, all he's gotten are thousands of pages of irrelevant documents and no answers to his questions.

Well, duh. Not one piece of paper said, "WE'RE EVIL PEOPLE BENT ON DESTROYING EVERY FETUS ON EARTH AND FUNDING IT WITH YOUR TAX DOLLARS."

Everything else is irrelevant.
 
2012-07-25 11:02:51 AM  
There was an investigation, it said so in the article. It was ruled an accident.
 
2012-07-25 11:04:51 AM  
Giving birth is about 14 times more dangerous than having an abortion. Are they going to investigate the public money spent on obstetrics?
 
2012-07-25 11:06:30 AM  
Because no woman, anywhere, has EVER died from hemorrhaging following giving birth.

The risk of bleeding is only from abortions, obviously.
 
2012-07-25 11:24:54 AM  
Yes, let's have public hearings every time a patient dies after a surgical procedure.

But we need to limit malpractice suits because...uh...

Well, this is different because abortion.
 
2012-07-25 11:36:02 AM  
I bet they D&C that coming.
 
2012-07-25 11:56:23 AM  

vernonFL: I bet they D&C that coming.


hee hee

ginandbacon: Giving birth is about 14 times more dangerous than having an abortion. Are they going to investigate the public money spent on obstetrics?


You're assuming that conservatives actually have moved beyond the idea that the stork brings them babies.
 
2012-07-25 11:56:54 AM  
It's too bad that we can't perform this procedure in a hospital.

Thanks, fundies!
 
2012-07-25 12:10:42 PM  
Planned Parenthood: We'll abort anyone, regardless of age.
 
2012-07-25 12:18:32 PM  

Diogenes: Stearns claims that since he launched a congressional probe, all he's gotten are thousands of pages of irrelevant documents and no answers to his questions.

Well, duh. Not one piece of paper said, "WE'RE EVIL PEOPLE BENT ON DESTROYING EVERY FETUS ON EARTH AND FUNDING IT WITH YOUR TAX DOLLARS."

Everything else is irrelevant.


Pretty much this. Since they don't use tax dollars for abortions, there's no documentation of them using tax dollars for abortions. They keep showing that over and over and this wingnut is still screaming for proof of something that doesn't happen.
 
2012-07-25 12:25:05 PM  
Just imagine how many more women would die from backalley abortion procedures if the conservatards have their way with that issue.
 
2012-07-25 12:28:10 PM  
I find Rep. Stearns lack of faith disturbing. What's to investigate? Obviously the woman died because God wanted to punish her sin. Why won't the distinguished gentleman from FL just accept God's will and move on?
 
2012-07-25 12:52:34 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Just imagine how many more women would die from backalley abortion procedures if the conservatards have their way with that issue.


but the GOP is ok with people committing murder dying in back alleys
 
2012-07-25 01:00:06 PM  

vernonFL: I bet they D&C that coming.


I had to scrape my jaw off of the floor when I read that, very funny.
 
2012-07-25 01:07:58 PM  
 
2012-07-25 01:28:34 PM  

cretinbob: Where the outrage for Lisa McPherson?

/vernonFL , Please


Wat?
 
2012-07-25 01:46:53 PM  

cretinbob: Where the outrage for Lisa McPherson?

/vernonFL , Please


Your handle is perfect.
 
2012-07-25 01:49:01 PM  
and here's the opening we need.
 
2012-07-25 01:49:15 PM  
What, was she white?
 
2012-07-25 01:49:54 PM  

Lumpmoose: Rep. Cliff Stearns, R-Fla., who launched a probe into Planned Parenthood earlier this year, is now calling for a public hearing on Capitol Hill. "I would like to put them under oath," he told Fox News.


If oil execs get to testify without being under oath, why should PP?
 
2012-07-25 01:51:14 PM  
I heard that Planned Parenthood actually sends roving gangs of "abortion squad" operatives Splinter Cell-style to America's hospitals and performs stealth abortions on women who don't even want them.
 
2012-07-25 01:52:59 PM  

SecretAgentWoman: Because no woman, anywhere, has EVER died from hemorrhaging following giving birth.

The risk of bleeding is only from abortions, obviously.


just yesterday resuscitation a woman who hemorrhaged after vaginal delivery, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

/those old and overweight nurses on the OB floor can REALLY motor down a hall when the shiat hits the fan.
//they rock.
 
2012-07-25 01:53:19 PM  
The days after shooting deaths in Colorado is no time to talk about guns.

The days after an abortion death in Chicago is precisely the time to talk about abortion.
 
2012-07-25 01:54:37 PM  

rga184:
just yesterday resuscitation a woman


The whole thing?
 
2012-07-25 01:55:01 PM  
Gotta love Republican hypocrisy. In the same week:

"A woman died having an abortion. ABORTIONS ARE DANGEROUS AND BAD. We must legislate to protect all women everywhere!"

aaand....

"12 people were just shot and killed in a movie theater with an assault rifle. If MORE PEOPLE had assault rifles, this sort of thing wouldn't happen."
 
2012-07-25 01:55:07 PM  
FTFA: Twenty-four-year old Tonya Reaves died Friday of hemorrhaging following the abortion, according to the Cook County Medical Examiner's office. Her death has been ruled an accident.


Does any person with a functioning brain believe it might be otherwise?
 
2012-07-25 01:55:13 PM  
I'm surprised Fox wasn't cheering the fact that "another baby killer died".
 
2012-07-25 01:56:11 PM  
Every surgical procedure has a risk of potentially life-ending complications. The fact that this is the first one being reported in recent memory spurs the thought in my mind, "It was going to have to happen sometime!" Deaths due to surgical complications are always tragic, but patients are informed of the risks before the procedure is performed. The fact that it happens very rarely is proof that the procedure is, from a medical standpoint, safe. I can't think of a single surgical procedure that has never had a death associated with it at some point. Hell, even removing an ingrown toenail presents a risk of septic infection and death.
 
2012-07-25 01:59:05 PM  

Detinwolf: I heard that Planned Parenthood actually sends roving gangs of "abortion squad" operatives Splinter Cell-style to America's hospitals and performs stealth abortions on women who don't even want them.


Would the term be Ninja or SWAT?
 
2012-07-25 01:59:05 PM  
Wonder how much taller these self righteous jackasses feel, standing on this dead woman's back?
 
2012-07-25 01:59:09 PM  

SecretAgentWoman: Because no woman, anywhere, has EVER died from hemorrhaging following giving birth.

rga184: SecretAgentWoman: Because no woman, anywhere, has EVER died from hemorrhaging following giving birth.

The risk of bleeding is only from abortions, obviously.

just yesterday resuscitation a woman who hemorrhaged after vaginal delivery, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

/those old and overweight nurses on the OB floor can REALLY motor down a hall when the shiat hits the fan.
//they rock.


Had that happen following the birth of my son in 2011
/near full replacement of my blood supply after a c-section and a trip to the ICU, wheeeeeee
 
2012-07-25 01:59:48 PM  

ArcadianRefugee: Lumpmoose: Rep. Cliff Stearns, R-Fla., who launched a probe into Planned Parenthood earlier this year, is now calling for a public hearing on Capitol Hill. "I would like to put them under oath," he told Fox News.

If oil execs get to testify without being under oath, why should PP?


This is exactly the most disgusting part of it all. Republicans have given a pass to oil executives that polluted the gulf and did a number on tourism along gulf of mexico states, they have given a pass to executives for banks and brokerage firms that have bankrupted the economy...but NOW that an opening that allows the to go for PP's jugular is apparents, NOW these shiatforbrains want to exercise their powers of oversight?

Fark you GOP. Farking fark you and anybody who still thinks you're anything but a disruptive influence on progress in this country, you goddammed hypocritic smegma balls.
 
2012-07-25 02:00:36 PM  
Why is it the republican types will move heaven and earth to protect a baby that is -9 months to -1 min old, but when the baby is +1 min old they're all, "Fark you baby, you're on your own. Bootstraps!"
 
2012-07-25 02:00:52 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: rga184:
just yesterday resuscitation a woman

The whole thing?


well, yes, but accidentally.

/resuscitated, damn you, autocorrect!
 
2012-07-25 02:01:26 PM  
Look, I'm pro-life, and I'd rather there were no abortions (of course there are exceptions). But it's been ruled constitutional, so let it go conservatives.
Also, this was a medical accident. Why treat it any differently then any other medical procedure that has complications leading to death? Let it go conservative leaders.
 
2012-07-25 02:01:37 PM  
Those who say "no abortions under any circumstances" are apparently on indefinite life support without brain activity.
 
2012-07-25 02:02:19 PM  
Republicans are so hilarious. In the US, 17% of all women will hemorrhage during childbirth. 2.7% of women die from it -- and incidence many time higher than that of abortion. So maybe they should be calling on the American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists to come before Congress and explain this outrage!
 
2012-07-25 02:02:58 PM  
Man, I hope Congress gets on investigating hospitals and surgeons themselves too, since people die after surgery sometimes, and it's just the way it is. Pretty much any surgery runs a risk of death.

Time to ban Surgery.
 
2012-07-25 02:04:24 PM  

Decillion: Why is it the republican types will move heaven and earth to protect a baby that is -9 months to -1 min old, but when the baby is +1 min old they're all, "Fark you baby, you're on your own. Bootstraps!"


Because they a) really aren't very smart or b) are making a living off of people who aren't very smart.
 
2012-07-25 02:04:46 PM  

JackieRabbit: 2.7% of women die from it


Um....are you saying that almost 3 out of every 100 women die during childbirth in the US?

Because I don't believe that.
 
2012-07-25 02:05:06 PM  
Wait wait wait... Hundreds, maybe thousands of procedures every week and only one death in recent history? Most surgeries WISH they had those numbers.
 
2012-07-25 02:06:01 PM  

srhp29: Man, I hope Congress gets on investigating hospitals and surgeons themselves too, since people die after surgery sometimes, and it's just the way it is. Pretty much any surgery runs a risk of death.

Time to ban Surgery.


Going to a hospital is downright dangerous
 
2012-07-25 02:06:51 PM  
The GOP is so out of touch, it boggles the mind. But what is worse is that folks still listen to them.

Think about it - right now there is someone out there fuming at what BS is being told to them, and they think that the GOP is in the right.

How stupid is that?
 
2012-07-25 02:06:55 PM  
"Congress has an obligation to exercise clear and regular oversight of businesses like Planned Parenthood that receive hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer funding..."

Yes, Congress does have an obligation in this regard. Consider then the subsidies paid to other industries. Why are we not having Congressional hearings for every deadly accident in a mine or on a large factory farm? Why is the political theatre limited to this specific avenue of healthcare, and not for instance applied to companies like Merck, whose policies amount to price fixing creating black market trades and causing deaths due to lack of access, or Halliburton, whose ineffectiveness in providing services per dollar spent is extraordinary? Billions of taxpayer dollars go into nursing homes, but no Congressional hearings occur when elder abuse is found.

By all means though, waste more taxpayer money holding meetings about how a healthcare organization doesn't have a 100% perfect safety record (pro-tip: no medical provider has a 100% safety record). Maybe we could then investigate partisan Congressional investigations, since we're doing all this navel gazing anyway. Waste a few more millions just blathering in front of a microphone.
 
2012-07-25 02:07:02 PM  
So, considering this made huge news, I am going to guess the tens or hundreds of thousands of previous abortions at PP clinics have not resulted in death... otherwise we'd have gotten this level of outrage before.

That is a extremely good track rate. People die all the time in hospitals because of staff and MRSA infections. And investigations are done, and completed, and consequences rendered if appropriate.

You knew the right wing was going to jump all over this, but, god damnit still.
 
2012-07-25 02:07:04 PM  
Interestingly, the procedure that Republicans outlawed, D&X or "partial birth abortions", was specifically designed to have a lower risk of accidental puncturing of the uterus and potential for hemorrhaging than the D&E procedure that this woman had. So, interestingly, it's really Republicans like Rep. Cliff Stearns that are the cause of deaths like this that they're so intensely investigating.

Oh, wait, did I say "interestingly"?

I meant "disgustingly".
 
2012-07-25 02:07:35 PM  

Lumpmoose: So Republicans are suddenly concerned about women's health in this country?

Rep. Cliff Stearns, R-Fla., who launched a probe into Planned Parenthood earlier this year, is now calling for a public hearing on Capitol Hill. "I would like to put them under oath," he told Fox News. "I would like to find out how they spend our half a billion dollars

Ah, there it is.


You know that the PP doctors were thrilled to give the "pro-life" crowd giftwrapped ammunition.
 
2012-07-25 02:09:26 PM  

Pocket Ninja: JackieRabbit: 2.7% of women die from it

Um....are you saying that almost 3 out of every 100 women die during childbirth in the US?

Because I don't believe that.


I assume it is 2.7% of the 17%, or 0.46% of all childbirths.
 
2012-07-25 02:09:40 PM  

zomega: SecretAgentWoman: Because no woman, anywhere, has EVER died from hemorrhaging following giving birth.

rga184: SecretAgentWoman: Because no woman, anywhere, has EVER died from hemorrhaging following giving birth.

The risk of bleeding is only from abortions, obviously.

just yesterday resuscitation a woman who hemorrhaged after vaginal delivery, so I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

/those old and overweight nurses on the OB floor can REALLY motor down a hall when the shiat hits the fan.
//they rock.


Had that happen following the birth of my son in 2011
/near full replacement of my blood supply after a c-section and a trip to the ICU, wheeeeeee


glad you're OK to tell the tale!

I've had a number of crazy incidents this month. Anaphylaxis on the floor, ruptured uterus during labor, air embolus during delivery. Two months ago I did have something similar to your scenario, but given the pt's history, we had seen it coming and were more than ready. I was extra paranoid before the case started...refused to start until units of blood were physically on the floor...turned out we needed them!

my co-resident on call and I were supposed to have a lecture on anesthesia emergencies on the OB floor so we can get credit for our rotation this month. Our supervisor said, "never mind, you've pretty much had to manage them in real life already". It's been that crazy.

/everybody has done well, happy, healthy, at home, with no permanent sequelae.
//that being said, getting called cuz shiat-hit-fan and getting somebody through it is absolutely exhilarating. I love my job!
 
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