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2012-07-25 01:43:54 PM

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Freddy, circa late 1993?


Too soon.... :(
 
2012-07-25 01:46:31 PM
Mercury exposure:

periodictable.com
 
2012-07-25 01:46:57 PM
That's better than 40 pounds or rape walking into a bar, I suppose.
 
2012-07-25 01:48:57 PM

MythDragon: YixilTesiphon: Dreyelle: How big would the bottle have to be to hold 40 pounds of liquid mercury?

[40 lb box.jpg]

dammit


No, you actually posted it intsead of lazing out like I did. (Didn't want to GIS that at work while waiting on SSRS to load everything, you know?)
 
2012-07-25 01:49:10 PM
i1134.photobucket.com

You KNOW you want to open it!
 
2012-07-25 01:49:27 PM
The model emerging to explain the toxic effect of mercury is a continuous dose-effect relationship where low level exposure results in subtle changes in brain function as indicated by psychological tests. Recent research also suggests that low level exposure to mercury may potentiate or amplify the genetic damage associated with environmental mutagens, such as radionuclides.

So Super Hulk then?
 
2012-07-25 01:50:58 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: As opposed to what? Solid mercury?


I came here to ask this.
 
2012-07-25 01:51:08 PM
...aaaaand MythDragon beat me to it.


/40 pounds of curses!
 
2012-07-25 01:52:13 PM

theorellior: Although it's dumb to play with it, mercury in that quantity has some tantalizing properties that are hard to resist. It's silver, shiny, liquid, really, really heavy and it doesn't act like anything else you've ever seen before. The inner monkey instinct kicks in hard, makes you want to poke it with sticks to see what it does.


That's what I was thinking. I would love to have a liter of mercury...just to have a liter of mercury. It's a very unique and fascinating substance.
 
2012-07-25 01:52:52 PM
I'm not saying it was aliens..but, liquid mercury in a closed sphere.
 
2012-07-25 01:53:37 PM
Can we even assume he knew it was mercury? Probably thought he found an alien nucular fuel.

[joedirtwithseptictank.jpg]
 
2012-07-25 01:55:17 PM

satanorsanta: Dreyelle: How big would the bottle have to be to hold 40 pounds of liquid mercury?

about 1.34 liters. Less than 3/4 of a 2 L pop bottle


Waaaaaiiit a second, I'm not the type who believes everything he reads.

(threetimeseight,dividebyfour,subtractonepointthreefour, givespositivevalue)

OK, you're cool.
 
2012-07-25 01:55:33 PM
And is a bottle-dropping trifecta in play?
 
2012-07-25 01:55:37 PM

Rich Cream: Can we even assume he knew it was mercury? Probably thought he found an alien nucular fuel.


That's actually a good point. With a job as a workman I think it's safe to assume that he's probably not that knowledgeable about the periodic table (or really anything at all, for that matter). He likely didn't know what it was.
 
2012-07-25 01:56:08 PM

Gecko Gingrich: Liquid mercury is not very toxic, mostly because it's very hard to get your body to absorb it. Mercury vapors are quite toxic, but liquid elemental mercury is not very volatile. So, unless the guy dropped it into a hot frying pan, there is very little danger of these folks developing hydrargyria.


Aww, common, you are spoiling the fearmongering and ego inflation that comes from confronting DANGER(WillRobinson).
 
2012-07-25 01:57:00 PM

xl5150: Rich Cream: Can we even assume he knew it was mercury? Probably thought he found an alien nucular fuel.

That's actually a good point. With a job as a workman I think it's safe to assume that he's probably not that knowledgeable about the periodic table (or really anything at all, for that matter). He likely didn't know what it was.


Is workman a job title.
Having trouble finding,,,
 
2012-07-25 02:00:12 PM
Some people are showing their age and lack of experience with the real world. Ever heard of mercury thermometers? How about thermostats that use mercury to make electrical connections by moving a bimetallic strip with a vial containing the stuff attached to it? This guy as a worker certainly has...and I'm sure he knew exactly what it was. Why else did he hide it?
 
2012-07-25 02:00:44 PM

ElLoco: Mercury exposure:

[periodictable.com image 299x379]


Interesting thing about that picture? He's *FLOATING* on the mercury.
 
2012-07-25 02:01:15 PM

theorellior: My sixth grade science teacher brought in a small flask of mercury, probably 5 lbs worth. It was a sealed glass ampule, you couldn't do much but jiggle it, but the entire class was freaking mesmerized.

My

sixth-grade science teacher was the history major who was bitter that she was stuck teaching science, and was determined that all the kids should find it as boring as she did.

The other sixth-grade science teacher was the one who let his students pour mercury into their hands, push it around and play with it. Until it all ended up in the cracks between the wooden floorboards.

Ah, the good old days...
 
2012-07-25 02:02:12 PM

Diogenes: ....and the Mercury accidentally brushes up against an attractive woman at the bar, and she exclaims, "You have some nerve deadening properties!"


And this is why you're on my favorites list you magnificent bastard.
 
2012-07-25 02:02:15 PM
That's a big fish.
 
2012-07-25 02:05:24 PM
If I was the owner of that bar I'd be mad as a hatter right now.
 
2012-07-25 02:06:26 PM
I used to play with this stuff all the time. I had a small vial from a 1960's era science kit. No warning label, nothing.

I probably have bad kidneys now.
 
2012-07-25 02:06:45 PM

natgod: HailRobonia: What sort of moron hides anything in a sandbox?

are you calling cats morans?


xl5150: HailRobonia:

People aren't workmen because they're exceptionally smart. That's the type of job you have when you didn't do well enough in school to be successful in life.



Hay now! These unsuccessful people can command up to $35/hr. Total that out to a year's wages and you'll see who the 'successful' people really are. And they don't have a student loan hangin' over their heads. Who's the dumb ape now?

That said...half the crew don't need any more intelligence than the hammer they use, The other half are smarter than the tools and do mostly lay-out and act as lead. When the worker said, "Hey Looky here! Can I keep it?", the foreskin thought it was a problem solved and gave him a long lunch to get it outta there. The foreman is smarter than a hammer and has more experience, so he gets $50/hr.
 
2012-07-25 02:07:51 PM

Dreyelle: How big would the bottle have to be to hold 40 pounds of liquid mercury?


I found a large mason jar full of mercury while cleaning out the garage at my first house. It was 12-15 lbs easy. I know people used to do stuff with it before they knew how dangerous it was, but I have no idea what you'd do with that much quantity. Seems like you never hear about someone finding a baby-food jar full, it's always a jug, bucket, or bottle full. Anyone know? Not a lot of gold-mining going on around here, so it's not that.
 
2012-07-25 02:09:39 PM

andersoncouncil42: Liquid mercury is a bit redundant, unless of course it's either 40 below zero or above 675 degrees.


There are plenty of mercurious compounds that aren't liquids at room temperature.
 
2012-07-25 02:10:28 PM

natgod: HailRobonia: What sort of moron hides anything in a sandbox?

are you calling cats morans?


xl5150: HailRobonia: What sort of moron hides anything in a sandbox?

People aren't workmen because they're exceptionally smart. That's the type of job you have when you didn't do well enough in school to be successful in life.



Hay now! These unsuccessful people can command up to $35/hr. Total that out to a year's wages and you'll see who the 'successful' people really are. And they don't have a student loan hangin' over their heads. Who's the dumb ape now?

That said...half the crew don't need any more intelligence than the hammer they use, and cats are smarter The other half are smarter than the tools and do mostly lay-out and act as lead. When the worker said, "Hey Looky here! Can I keep it?", the foreskin thought it was a problem solved and gave him a long lunch to get it outta there. The foreman is smarter than a hammer and has more experience, so he gets $50/hr.
 
2012-07-25 02:11:07 PM

Dreyelle: How big would the bottle have to be to hold 40 pounds of liquid mercury?


About 3 US pints.
 
2012-07-25 02:11:33 PM
DreyelleHow big would the bottle have to be to hold 40 pounds of liquid mercury?

Only about as big as a pint bottle or slightly more
 
2012-07-25 02:12:14 PM
Schmitt! Mods, I done fubar'd. Please remove the first one.

/gotta go talk to the hammer.
 
2012-07-25 02:12:50 PM
Reekers says the worker took the mercury to a bar to show friends. Someone dropped the bottle and exposed 10-12 people at the bar.

No big deal. Being in the presence of metallic mercury is no reason for concern. Would you freak out being near a lead pipe?

Reekers says the worker took the remaining mercury to the house and hid the bottle in a sandbox where four children later found it.

Completely stupid because the kids could swallow it.
 
2012-07-25 02:12:58 PM

gopher321: Reekers says the worker took the mercury to a bar to show friends. Someone dropped the bottle and exposed 10-12 people at the bar.

Reekers says the worker took the remaining mercury to the house and hid the bottle in a sandbox where four children later found it.



Guy just doesn't know when to stop the asshattery. I'm surprised he didn't take the bottle of mercury out dancing later and mixed a few cocktails with it.


If he'd only panicked just a bit more, he would've chugged it and saved 4 kids the horrors of mercury poisoning.
 
2012-07-25 02:14:55 PM

angry_scientist: onlookers described the scene as "Oooh shiney"


t0.gstatic.com

/shakes tiny fist
 
2012-07-25 02:15:11 PM

Dreyelle: How big would the bottle have to be to hold 40 pounds of liquid mercury?


The density of Mercury is 13,593 kg/m3 (kilograms per cubic meter). That is equivalent to 113.4 lb/gal [US].(pounds per gallon).

Compare that to water, which is about 8.34 pounds per gallon.

www.colloidalsilverhowto.com
 
2012-07-25 02:17:48 PM

eas81: Dreyelle: How big would the bottle have to be to hold 40 pounds of liquid mercury?

The density of Mercury is 13,593 kg/m3 (kilograms per cubic meter). That is equivalent to 113.4 lb/gal [US].(pounds per gallon).

Compare that to water, which is about 8.34 pounds per gallon.

[www.colloidalsilverhowto.com image 500x441]


That's why you use it in barometers instead of water or oil. If you used water, the column would have to be 33 meters tall instead of 760 mm.
 
2012-07-25 02:18:31 PM
The bartender says "Holy crap, that looks like Uranus!"
 
2012-07-25 02:18:51 PM

andersoncouncil42: Liquid mercury is a bit redundant, unless of course it's either 40 below zero or above 675 degrees.


How about mercurous mercury?
 
2012-07-25 02:19:34 PM
Why are we discussing a liquid in weight and not volume?
 
2012-07-25 02:19:43 PM

YixilTesiphon: MythDragon: YixilTesiphon: Dreyelle: How big would the bottle have to be to hold 40 pounds of liquid mercury?

[40 lb box.jpg]

dammit

No, you actually posted it intsead of lazing out like I did. (Didn't want to GIS that at work while waiting on SSRS to load everything, you know?)


That's why I use the proxy server when I'm at work. Besides, the regular .mil server blocks all the good stuff like Youtube, Cracked, and most of the pictures displayed in threads. If I didn't have access to those sites during the day, I'd probably be so bored that I might actualy do work or something. ugh.
/Government Sys Admin.
 
2012-07-25 02:21:27 PM

Gecko Gingrich: Liquid mercury is not very toxic, mostly because it's very hard to get your body to absorb it. Mercury vapors are quite toxic, but liquid elemental mercury is not very volatile. So, unless the guy dropped it into a hot frying pan, there is very little danger of these folks developing hydrargyria.


Thank you, voice of reason.

/Mercury and asbestos panic makes me mad as a hatter.
 
2012-07-25 02:22:11 PM
Elemental mercury is impressively inert, especially in large quantities with a low surface area to volume ratio. Drinkable, in fact, though not more than a few milliliters because of its density.

Mercury droplets in the 1 mm range, though, have a high enough surface area to volume ratio that they can create a significant amount of vapor even at room temperature.

That thing was safe until he spilled it. Even better, store it in a sturdy container and covered in water to completely prevent vapor formation.
 
2012-07-25 02:22:19 PM
A liter of mercury?
encrypted-tbn2.google.com
 
2012-07-25 02:24:01 PM

Dreyelle: How big would the bottle have to be to hold 40 pounds of liquid mercury?


OK, we have 3 answers posted 1.34 L, 3 pints, and a baby food jar

40 lbs / 2.2 = 18.2 kg
18. 2 kg of water is 18.2 L
relative density of Hg is 13.95
18.2 L / 13.95 = 1.30 L

/do I get extra credit for showing my work?
 
2012-07-25 02:24:10 PM
Just a reminder that only one generation ago, your parents regularly played with mercury in their science classes. Like held it in their cupped hands and jiggled it around.

You're welcome.
 
2012-07-25 02:26:46 PM

JudgeItoBox: Just a reminder that only one generation ago, your parents regularly played with mercury in their science classes. Like held it in their cupped hands and jiggled it around.

You're welcome.


political correctness gone mad
 
2012-07-25 02:28:18 PM

uatuba: Some people are showing their age and lack of experience with the real world. Ever heard of mercury thermometers? How about thermostats that use mercury to make electrical connections by moving a bimetallic strip with a vial containing the stuff attached to it? This guy as a worker certainly has...and I'm sure he knew exactly what it was. Why else did he hide it?


Exactly my thoughts. IMO that shows a guilty (and assholeish, and probably criminally guilty) mind. Even in the somewhat unlikely event that he didn't know what it was when he found it, he certainly knew what was up after it was dropped.
 
2012-07-25 02:30:57 PM
i.qkme.me

/Times where simpler back then

An EPA team will clean up the mercury in the sandbox and at the bar.
WTF, last time I was at NTC there was no farking bar. Just a shiat load of sand and people dressed like Hajis.

Cool Environmental Story Bro:
When I was in Iraq , I was changing the oil on a humvee. I looked at the pan of old, dirty oil, looked over 3 feet to my right, grabbed a shovel dug a 1 ft pit, and hucked in the oil. My platoon SGT saw this and started biatching. Who cares? I said. It's farking Iraq. This place is lousy with oil anyway. He then said how it was bad for the environment. I explained that it would simply soak into the ground and rejoin the natural oil table. My scientific knowledge must have really impressed him, because he just walked away, pinching the bridge of his nose.
 
2012-07-25 02:32:22 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: And now all those people are doomed to a slow, excruciating death because some simpleton thought it would be fun to play show and tell at Clancey's


The alcohol they were drinking at the bar is more likely to cause health problems for them than the mercury.
 
2012-07-25 02:34:14 PM

Gecko Gingrich: Liquid mercury is not very toxic, mostly because it's very hard to get your body to absorb it. Mercury vapors are quite toxic, but liquid elemental mercury is not very volatile. So, unless the guy dropped it into a hot frying pan, there is very little danger of these folks developing hydrargyria.


So, ya got a GED in Chemistry from Wiki University? Mercury is not as toxic in liquid form as it is as a vapor, but it is also accumulative. The touch of one finger pad to Mercury is prolly equal to about four years of exposure to the vapor of a CFL (which isn't very harmful, either). But a few lightbulbs over the years, with some tuna sammiches thrown in, and your senior years are gonna be plagued with issues relating to Mercury poisoning. Children, due to a matter of scale and longevity, are much more susceptible to the effects.

I grew up painting dimes with mercury. I also was told to wash up before touching anything else because of folk tales about it. And my work at a shipyard was mercury-free because of its corrosive effect on steel. That prolly saved me a lot of anguish. I still love tuna sammiches.
 
2012-07-25 02:34:27 PM

Gecko Gingrich: Liquid mercury is not very toxic, mostly because it's very hard to get your body to absorb it. Mercury vapors are quite toxic, but liquid elemental mercury is not very volatile. So, unless the guy dropped it into a hot frying pan, there is very little danger of these folks developing hydrargyria.


True, of course the chances of developing hydrangea, hysteria, or hypochondriasis are a totally different story.
Especially when the sleazy sue-happy attorneys show up.
 
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