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2012-07-25 09:48:44 AM  
Emmet County emergency manager Terry Reekers says a construction worker remodeling a house found a plastic bottle with about 40 pounds of liquid mercury on Friday.

Reekers says the worker took the mercury to a bar to show friends.


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2012-07-25 09:57:07 AM  
Wait I think I've heard this one... So, 40 pounds of liquid mercury walk into a bar, walks up to the bartender and says "Are you the legal guardian of John Connor?" then proceeds to form into a policeman and blow everybody's heads off.

There may have been some priests and a rabbi in there somewhere the details are a little blurry.
 
2012-07-25 10:32:57 AM  
Freddy, circa late 1993?
 
2012-07-25 10:38:11 AM  
img7.imageshack.us
 
2012-07-25 10:58:53 AM  
And so the bartender says, "Why the Hg dog expression?"

/got nuthin'
 
2012-07-25 11:01:59 AM  
Hey, hold my beer and check this out..........
 
2012-07-25 11:02:44 AM  
And now all those people are doomed to a slow, excruciating death because some simpleton thought it would be fun to play show and tell at Clancey's

/oh, the Hgmanity
 
2012-07-25 11:13:35 AM  
So, 40 pounds of liquid mercury walk into a bar with a poodle under one arm, and a two foot salami under the other...
 
2012-07-25 11:15:06 AM  
...and say "Sorry, I gotta run."
 
2012-07-25 11:45:16 AM  
Liquid mercury is not very toxic, mostly because it's very hard to get your body to absorb it. Mercury vapors are quite toxic, but liquid elemental mercury is not very volatile. So, unless the guy dropped it into a hot frying pan, there is very little danger of these folks developing hydrargyria.
 
2012-07-25 11:46:03 AM  
....and the Mercury accidentally brushes up against an attractive woman at the bar, and she exclaims, "You have some nerve deadening properties!"
 
2012-07-25 12:15:48 PM  
Reekers says the worker took the mercury to a bar to show friends. Someone dropped the bottle and exposed 10-12 people at the bar.

Reekers says the worker took the remaining mercury to the house and hid the bottle in a sandbox where four children later found it.



Guy just doesn't know when to stop the asshattery. I'm surprised he didn't take the bottle of mercury out dancing later and mixed a few cocktails with it.
 
2012-07-25 01:22:32 PM  
What sort of moron hides anything in a sandbox?
 
2012-07-25 01:22:58 PM  
onlookers described the scene as "Oooh shiney"
 
2012-07-25 01:23:27 PM  
How big would the bottle have to be to hold 40 pounds of liquid mercury?
 
2012-07-25 01:23:29 PM  
If I were that stupid, I'd want to be referred to as "the worker" too.
 
2012-07-25 01:23:48 PM  
Walks into a millibar, surely.

/write your own Mad Hatter joke here.
 
2012-07-25 01:24:14 PM  
Well it is fairly unlikely he would have solid Hg.
 
2012-07-25 01:24:48 PM  
Liquid mercury is a bit redundant, unless of course it's either 40 below zero or above 675 degrees.
 
2012-07-25 01:24:48 PM  

HailRobonia: What sort of moron hides anything in a sandbox?


are you calling cats morans?
 
2012-07-25 01:25:35 PM  

brap: Wait I think I've heard this one... So, 40 pounds of liquid mercury walk into a bar, walks up to the bartender and says "Are you the legal guardian of John Connor?" then proceeds to form into a policeman and blow everybody's heads off.

There may have been some priests and a rabbi in there somewhere the details are a little blurry.


Maybe it's respiratory failure?
 
2012-07-25 01:25:52 PM  
This is a quality employee. He should get a raise or something.

(Who let the idiot leave the job site with it? Wouldn't 40 lbs of mercury require a gov't response to the worksite?)
 
2012-07-25 01:26:25 PM  
images.askmen.com
 
2012-07-25 01:26:37 PM  
Even as a liquid, mercury denser than lead: 40.0 pounds of mercury = 1.34 L. He probably had it in a 2-liter bottle. Probably handed it to somebody who had no idea how heavy it really was and dropped it.
 
2012-07-25 01:26:45 PM  
Worst
Construction worker
EVAR!!!
 
2012-07-25 01:27:03 PM  

Dreyelle: How big would the bottle have to be to hold 40 pounds of liquid mercury?


about 1.34 liters. Less than 3/4 of a 2 L pop bottle
 
2012-07-25 01:27:14 PM  
A month or so ago it was Minnesota, Now Iowa...what is wrong with my peeps???

/fire at will
 
2012-07-25 01:27:34 PM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Freddy, circa late 1993?


Quit readin' my mind!!!!
 
2012-07-25 01:28:46 PM  
j.wigflip.com
 
2012-07-25 01:29:32 PM  
"40 pounds of liquid mercury walk into a bar"
3.bp.blogspot.com
I'm 9 stone, actually!
 
2012-07-25 01:31:26 PM  
I'm actually curious about the bioavailablity of liquid mercury. I know it's a biatch in the food chain as methylmercury, but that requires a bit of biochemistry from bacteria or algae to make.
 
2012-07-25 01:31:37 PM  

HailRobonia: What sort of moron hides anything in a sandbox?


People aren't workmen because they're exceptionally smart. That's the type of job you have when you didn't do well enough in school to be successful in life.
 
2012-07-25 01:31:45 PM  

Valiente: Walks into a millibar, surely.

/write your own Mad Hatter joke here.


/slaps you on the back of the head.


//I hate when the folks here make me laugh/groan
 
2012-07-25 01:31:50 PM  

Dreyelle: How big would the bottle have to be to hold 40 pounds of liquid mercury?


[40 lb box.jpg]
 
2012-07-25 01:32:59 PM  
prospect.rsc.org

Have you seen this boy?
 
2012-07-25 01:33:56 PM  
FTA An EPA team will clean up the mercury in the sandbox and at the bar.

farking evil socialists
 
2012-07-25 01:34:37 PM  
The T-1000 on Slim Fast?
 
2012-07-25 01:34:45 PM  

Diogenes: And so the bartender says, "Why the Hg dog expression?"

/got nuthin'


Brilliant.
 
2012-07-25 01:35:27 PM  
Okay, I can understand why Cletus took the bottle of mercury with him to the bar. Big bottle of shiny thing is sure to impress the boozers.

But, wtf was this Inbred Jed thinking when he decided to stash the stuff in a CHILDREN'S SANDBOX????

That is some felony child endangerment right there.

PS: If you have stuff in your basement that even several previous owners say "It must have been the guy before me that put it there", you need to CLEAN YOUR FUGGING BASEMENT OUT!
 
2012-07-25 01:35:38 PM  

Dreyelle: How big would the bottle have to be to hold 40 pounds of liquid mercury?


Probably not that big. 40 pounds of mercury is a lot heavier than 40 pounds of feathers.
 
2012-07-25 01:36:43 PM  

gopher321: Guy just doesn't know when to stop the asshattery. I'm surprised he didn't take the bottle of mercury out dancing later and mixed a few cocktails with it.


Actually, if you assume he found 50 pounds of it, and drank a fifth of the bottle thinking it was moonshine, then the rest of his actions make a lot more sense.
 
2012-07-25 01:37:21 PM  
As opposed to what? Solid mercury?
 
2012-07-25 01:39:48 PM  
Still not as bad as dropping a CFL bulb in the house, right?
 
2012-07-25 01:41:05 PM  
Although it's dumb to play with it, mercury in that quantity has some tantalizing properties that are hard to resist. It's silver, shiny, liquid, really, really heavy and it doesn't act like anything else you've ever seen before. The inner monkey instinct kicks in hard, makes you want to poke it with sticks to see what it does.

My sixth grade science teacher brought in a small flask of mercury, probably 5 lbs worth. It was a sealed glass ampule, you couldn't do much but jiggle it, but the entire class was freaking mesmerized.
 
2012-07-25 01:41:45 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Okay, I can understand why Cletus took the bottle of mercury with him to the bar. Big bottle of shiny thing is sure to impress the boozers.

But, wtf was this Inbred Jed thinking when he decided to stash the stuff in a CHILDREN'S SANDBOX????

That is some felony child endangerment right there.

PS: If you have stuff in your basement that even several previous owners say "It must have been the guy before me that put it there", you need to CLEAN YOUR FUGGING BASEMENT OUT!


The jackass was 100% weapons grade stupid no matter what way you look at it.

And most likely, he breeds...

Let that thought brighten up your day.
 
2012-07-25 01:41:58 PM  

Dreyelle: How big would the bottle have to be to hold 40 pounds of liquid mercury?


Not sure, but this is the box it comes in
media1.break.com
 
2012-07-25 01:42:31 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: As opposed to what? Solid mercury?


Mercury does indeed have a solid state, at around -38 degrees F. So if the bar is in Siberia in the winter, maybe.
 
2012-07-25 01:42:41 PM  
4.bp.blogspot.com

I bet the Indian never would have taken it to the bar.
 
2012-07-25 01:43:12 PM  
Dad would bring some home from work, and we would spend an afternoon coating all our funky dull nickels and dimes, and making them bright and shiny! Fun!
 
2012-07-25 01:43:24 PM  

YixilTesiphon: Dreyelle: How big would the bottle have to be to hold 40 pounds of liquid mercury?

[40 lb box.jpg]


dammit
 
2012-07-25 01:43:54 PM  

ThatGuyFromTheInternet: Freddy, circa late 1993?


Too soon.... :(
 
2012-07-25 01:46:31 PM  
Mercury exposure:

periodictable.com
 
2012-07-25 01:46:57 PM  
That's better than 40 pounds or rape walking into a bar, I suppose.
 
2012-07-25 01:48:57 PM  

MythDragon: YixilTesiphon: Dreyelle: How big would the bottle have to be to hold 40 pounds of liquid mercury?

[40 lb box.jpg]

dammit


No, you actually posted it intsead of lazing out like I did. (Didn't want to GIS that at work while waiting on SSRS to load everything, you know?)
 
2012-07-25 01:49:10 PM  
i1134.photobucket.com

You KNOW you want to open it!
 
2012-07-25 01:49:27 PM  
The model emerging to explain the toxic effect of mercury is a continuous dose-effect relationship where low level exposure results in subtle changes in brain function as indicated by psychological tests. Recent research also suggests that low level exposure to mercury may potentiate or amplify the genetic damage associated with environmental mutagens, such as radionuclides.

So Super Hulk then?
 
2012-07-25 01:50:58 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: As opposed to what? Solid mercury?


I came here to ask this.
 
2012-07-25 01:51:08 PM  
...aaaaand MythDragon beat me to it.


/40 pounds of curses!
 
2012-07-25 01:52:13 PM  

theorellior: Although it's dumb to play with it, mercury in that quantity has some tantalizing properties that are hard to resist. It's silver, shiny, liquid, really, really heavy and it doesn't act like anything else you've ever seen before. The inner monkey instinct kicks in hard, makes you want to poke it with sticks to see what it does.


That's what I was thinking. I would love to have a liter of mercury...just to have a liter of mercury. It's a very unique and fascinating substance.
 
2012-07-25 01:52:52 PM  
I'm not saying it was aliens..but, liquid mercury in a closed sphere.
 
2012-07-25 01:53:37 PM  
Can we even assume he knew it was mercury? Probably thought he found an alien nucular fuel.

[joedirtwithseptictank.jpg]
 
2012-07-25 01:55:17 PM  

satanorsanta: Dreyelle: How big would the bottle have to be to hold 40 pounds of liquid mercury?

about 1.34 liters. Less than 3/4 of a 2 L pop bottle


Waaaaaiiit a second, I'm not the type who believes everything he reads.

(threetimeseight,dividebyfour,subtractonepointthreefour, givespositivevalue)

OK, you're cool.
 
2012-07-25 01:55:33 PM  
And is a bottle-dropping trifecta in play?
 
2012-07-25 01:55:37 PM  

Rich Cream: Can we even assume he knew it was mercury? Probably thought he found an alien nucular fuel.


That's actually a good point. With a job as a workman I think it's safe to assume that he's probably not that knowledgeable about the periodic table (or really anything at all, for that matter). He likely didn't know what it was.
 
2012-07-25 01:56:08 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: Liquid mercury is not very toxic, mostly because it's very hard to get your body to absorb it. Mercury vapors are quite toxic, but liquid elemental mercury is not very volatile. So, unless the guy dropped it into a hot frying pan, there is very little danger of these folks developing hydrargyria.


Aww, common, you are spoiling the fearmongering and ego inflation that comes from confronting DANGER(WillRobinson).
 
2012-07-25 01:57:00 PM  

xl5150: Rich Cream: Can we even assume he knew it was mercury? Probably thought he found an alien nucular fuel.

That's actually a good point. With a job as a workman I think it's safe to assume that he's probably not that knowledgeable about the periodic table (or really anything at all, for that matter). He likely didn't know what it was.


Is workman a job title.
Having trouble finding,,,
 
2012-07-25 02:00:12 PM  
Some people are showing their age and lack of experience with the real world. Ever heard of mercury thermometers? How about thermostats that use mercury to make electrical connections by moving a bimetallic strip with a vial containing the stuff attached to it? This guy as a worker certainly has...and I'm sure he knew exactly what it was. Why else did he hide it?
 
2012-07-25 02:00:44 PM  

ElLoco: Mercury exposure:

[periodictable.com image 299x379]


Interesting thing about that picture? He's *FLOATING* on the mercury.
 
2012-07-25 02:01:15 PM  

theorellior: My sixth grade science teacher brought in a small flask of mercury, probably 5 lbs worth. It was a sealed glass ampule, you couldn't do much but jiggle it, but the entire class was freaking mesmerized.

My

sixth-grade science teacher was the history major who was bitter that she was stuck teaching science, and was determined that all the kids should find it as boring as she did.

The other sixth-grade science teacher was the one who let his students pour mercury into their hands, push it around and play with it. Until it all ended up in the cracks between the wooden floorboards.

Ah, the good old days...
 
2012-07-25 02:02:12 PM  

Diogenes: ....and the Mercury accidentally brushes up against an attractive woman at the bar, and she exclaims, "You have some nerve deadening properties!"


And this is why you're on my favorites list you magnificent bastard.
 
2012-07-25 02:02:15 PM  
That's a big fish.
 
2012-07-25 02:05:24 PM  
If I was the owner of that bar I'd be mad as a hatter right now.
 
2012-07-25 02:06:26 PM  
I used to play with this stuff all the time. I had a small vial from a 1960's era science kit. No warning label, nothing.

I probably have bad kidneys now.
 
2012-07-25 02:06:45 PM  

natgod: HailRobonia: What sort of moron hides anything in a sandbox?

are you calling cats morans?


xl5150: HailRobonia:

People aren't workmen because they're exceptionally smart. That's the type of job you have when you didn't do well enough in school to be successful in life.



Hay now! These unsuccessful people can command up to $35/hr. Total that out to a year's wages and you'll see who the 'successful' people really are. And they don't have a student loan hangin' over their heads. Who's the dumb ape now?

That said...half the crew don't need any more intelligence than the hammer they use, The other half are smarter than the tools and do mostly lay-out and act as lead. When the worker said, "Hey Looky here! Can I keep it?", the foreskin thought it was a problem solved and gave him a long lunch to get it outta there. The foreman is smarter than a hammer and has more experience, so he gets $50/hr.
 
2012-07-25 02:07:51 PM  

Dreyelle: How big would the bottle have to be to hold 40 pounds of liquid mercury?


I found a large mason jar full of mercury while cleaning out the garage at my first house. It was 12-15 lbs easy. I know people used to do stuff with it before they knew how dangerous it was, but I have no idea what you'd do with that much quantity. Seems like you never hear about someone finding a baby-food jar full, it's always a jug, bucket, or bottle full. Anyone know? Not a lot of gold-mining going on around here, so it's not that.
 
2012-07-25 02:09:39 PM  

andersoncouncil42: Liquid mercury is a bit redundant, unless of course it's either 40 below zero or above 675 degrees.


There are plenty of mercurious compounds that aren't liquids at room temperature.
 
2012-07-25 02:10:28 PM  

natgod: HailRobonia: What sort of moron hides anything in a sandbox?

are you calling cats morans?


xl5150: HailRobonia: What sort of moron hides anything in a sandbox?

People aren't workmen because they're exceptionally smart. That's the type of job you have when you didn't do well enough in school to be successful in life.



Hay now! These unsuccessful people can command up to $35/hr. Total that out to a year's wages and you'll see who the 'successful' people really are. And they don't have a student loan hangin' over their heads. Who's the dumb ape now?

That said...half the crew don't need any more intelligence than the hammer they use, and cats are smarter The other half are smarter than the tools and do mostly lay-out and act as lead. When the worker said, "Hey Looky here! Can I keep it?", the foreskin thought it was a problem solved and gave him a long lunch to get it outta there. The foreman is smarter than a hammer and has more experience, so he gets $50/hr.
 
2012-07-25 02:11:07 PM  

Dreyelle: How big would the bottle have to be to hold 40 pounds of liquid mercury?


About 3 US pints.
 
2012-07-25 02:11:33 PM  
DreyelleHow big would the bottle have to be to hold 40 pounds of liquid mercury?

Only about as big as a pint bottle or slightly more
 
2012-07-25 02:12:14 PM  
Schmitt! Mods, I done fubar'd. Please remove the first one.

/gotta go talk to the hammer.
 
2012-07-25 02:12:50 PM  
Reekers says the worker took the mercury to a bar to show friends. Someone dropped the bottle and exposed 10-12 people at the bar.

No big deal. Being in the presence of metallic mercury is no reason for concern. Would you freak out being near a lead pipe?

Reekers says the worker took the remaining mercury to the house and hid the bottle in a sandbox where four children later found it.

Completely stupid because the kids could swallow it.
 
2012-07-25 02:12:58 PM  

gopher321: Reekers says the worker took the mercury to a bar to show friends. Someone dropped the bottle and exposed 10-12 people at the bar.

Reekers says the worker took the remaining mercury to the house and hid the bottle in a sandbox where four children later found it.



Guy just doesn't know when to stop the asshattery. I'm surprised he didn't take the bottle of mercury out dancing later and mixed a few cocktails with it.


If he'd only panicked just a bit more, he would've chugged it and saved 4 kids the horrors of mercury poisoning.
 
2012-07-25 02:14:55 PM  

angry_scientist: onlookers described the scene as "Oooh shiney"


t0.gstatic.com

/shakes tiny fist
 
2012-07-25 02:15:11 PM  

Dreyelle: How big would the bottle have to be to hold 40 pounds of liquid mercury?


The density of Mercury is 13,593 kg/m3 (kilograms per cubic meter). That is equivalent to 113.4 lb/gal [US].(pounds per gallon).

Compare that to water, which is about 8.34 pounds per gallon.

www.colloidalsilverhowto.com
 
2012-07-25 02:17:48 PM  

eas81: Dreyelle: How big would the bottle have to be to hold 40 pounds of liquid mercury?

The density of Mercury is 13,593 kg/m3 (kilograms per cubic meter). That is equivalent to 113.4 lb/gal [US].(pounds per gallon).

Compare that to water, which is about 8.34 pounds per gallon.

[www.colloidalsilverhowto.com image 500x441]


That's why you use it in barometers instead of water or oil. If you used water, the column would have to be 33 meters tall instead of 760 mm.
 
2012-07-25 02:18:31 PM  
The bartender says "Holy crap, that looks like Uranus!"
 
2012-07-25 02:18:51 PM  

andersoncouncil42: Liquid mercury is a bit redundant, unless of course it's either 40 below zero or above 675 degrees.


How about mercurous mercury?
 
2012-07-25 02:19:34 PM  
Why are we discussing a liquid in weight and not volume?
 
2012-07-25 02:19:43 PM  

YixilTesiphon: MythDragon: YixilTesiphon: Dreyelle: How big would the bottle have to be to hold 40 pounds of liquid mercury?

[40 lb box.jpg]

dammit

No, you actually posted it intsead of lazing out like I did. (Didn't want to GIS that at work while waiting on SSRS to load everything, you know?)


That's why I use the proxy server when I'm at work. Besides, the regular .mil server blocks all the good stuff like Youtube, Cracked, and most of the pictures displayed in threads. If I didn't have access to those sites during the day, I'd probably be so bored that I might actualy do work or something. ugh.
/Government Sys Admin.
 
2012-07-25 02:21:27 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: Liquid mercury is not very toxic, mostly because it's very hard to get your body to absorb it. Mercury vapors are quite toxic, but liquid elemental mercury is not very volatile. So, unless the guy dropped it into a hot frying pan, there is very little danger of these folks developing hydrargyria.


Thank you, voice of reason.

/Mercury and asbestos panic makes me mad as a hatter.
 
2012-07-25 02:22:11 PM  
Elemental mercury is impressively inert, especially in large quantities with a low surface area to volume ratio. Drinkable, in fact, though not more than a few milliliters because of its density.

Mercury droplets in the 1 mm range, though, have a high enough surface area to volume ratio that they can create a significant amount of vapor even at room temperature.

That thing was safe until he spilled it. Even better, store it in a sturdy container and covered in water to completely prevent vapor formation.
 
2012-07-25 02:22:19 PM  
A liter of mercury?
encrypted-tbn2.google.com
 
2012-07-25 02:24:01 PM  

Dreyelle: How big would the bottle have to be to hold 40 pounds of liquid mercury?


OK, we have 3 answers posted 1.34 L, 3 pints, and a baby food jar

40 lbs / 2.2 = 18.2 kg
18. 2 kg of water is 18.2 L
relative density of Hg is 13.95
18.2 L / 13.95 = 1.30 L

/do I get extra credit for showing my work?
 
2012-07-25 02:24:10 PM  
Just a reminder that only one generation ago, your parents regularly played with mercury in their science classes. Like held it in their cupped hands and jiggled it around.

You're welcome.
 
2012-07-25 02:26:46 PM  

JudgeItoBox: Just a reminder that only one generation ago, your parents regularly played with mercury in their science classes. Like held it in their cupped hands and jiggled it around.

You're welcome.


political correctness gone mad
 
2012-07-25 02:28:18 PM  

uatuba: Some people are showing their age and lack of experience with the real world. Ever heard of mercury thermometers? How about thermostats that use mercury to make electrical connections by moving a bimetallic strip with a vial containing the stuff attached to it? This guy as a worker certainly has...and I'm sure he knew exactly what it was. Why else did he hide it?


Exactly my thoughts. IMO that shows a guilty (and assholeish, and probably criminally guilty) mind. Even in the somewhat unlikely event that he didn't know what it was when he found it, he certainly knew what was up after it was dropped.
 
2012-07-25 02:30:57 PM  
i.qkme.me

/Times where simpler back then

An EPA team will clean up the mercury in the sandbox and at the bar.
WTF, last time I was at NTC there was no farking bar. Just a shiat load of sand and people dressed like Hajis.

Cool Environmental Story Bro:
When I was in Iraq , I was changing the oil on a humvee. I looked at the pan of old, dirty oil, looked over 3 feet to my right, grabbed a shovel dug a 1 ft pit, and hucked in the oil. My platoon SGT saw this and started biatching. Who cares? I said. It's farking Iraq. This place is lousy with oil anyway. He then said how it was bad for the environment. I explained that it would simply soak into the ground and rejoin the natural oil table. My scientific knowledge must have really impressed him, because he just walked away, pinching the bridge of his nose.
 
2012-07-25 02:32:22 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: And now all those people are doomed to a slow, excruciating death because some simpleton thought it would be fun to play show and tell at Clancey's


The alcohol they were drinking at the bar is more likely to cause health problems for them than the mercury.
 
2012-07-25 02:34:14 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: Liquid mercury is not very toxic, mostly because it's very hard to get your body to absorb it. Mercury vapors are quite toxic, but liquid elemental mercury is not very volatile. So, unless the guy dropped it into a hot frying pan, there is very little danger of these folks developing hydrargyria.


So, ya got a GED in Chemistry from Wiki University? Mercury is not as toxic in liquid form as it is as a vapor, but it is also accumulative. The touch of one finger pad to Mercury is prolly equal to about four years of exposure to the vapor of a CFL (which isn't very harmful, either). But a few lightbulbs over the years, with some tuna sammiches thrown in, and your senior years are gonna be plagued with issues relating to Mercury poisoning. Children, due to a matter of scale and longevity, are much more susceptible to the effects.

I grew up painting dimes with mercury. I also was told to wash up before touching anything else because of folk tales about it. And my work at a shipyard was mercury-free because of its corrosive effect on steel. That prolly saved me a lot of anguish. I still love tuna sammiches.
 
2012-07-25 02:34:27 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: Liquid mercury is not very toxic, mostly because it's very hard to get your body to absorb it. Mercury vapors are quite toxic, but liquid elemental mercury is not very volatile. So, unless the guy dropped it into a hot frying pan, there is very little danger of these folks developing hydrargyria.


True, of course the chances of developing hydrangea, hysteria, or hypochondriasis are a totally different story.
Especially when the sleazy sue-happy attorneys show up.
 
2012-07-25 02:43:51 PM  

gopher321: Reekers says the worker took the mercury to a bar to show friends. Someone dropped the bottle and exposed 10-12 people at the bar.

Reekers says the worker took the remaining mercury to the house and hid the bottle in a sandbox where four children later found it.



Guy just doesn't know when to stop the asshattery. I'm surprised he didn't take the bottle of mercury out dancing later and mixed a few cocktails with it.


Nothing like a little Quecksilberwasser on a cold day.
 
2012-07-25 02:44:20 PM  
So a seal walks into a club
 
2012-07-25 02:49:09 PM  

snocone: xl5150: Rich Cream: Can we even assume he knew it was mercury? Probably thought he found an alien nucular fuel.

That's actually a good point. With a job as a workman I think it's safe to assume that he's probably not that knowledgeable about the periodic table (or really anything at all, for that matter). He likely didn't know what it was.

Is workman a job title.
Having trouble finding,,,



I was just basing it on humanity in general.

/as I've experienced it
 
2012-07-25 02:51:15 PM  

JudgeItoBox: Just a reminder that only one generation ago, your parents regularly played with mercury in their science classes. Like held it in their cupped hands and jiggled it around.

You're welcome.


Hell, I did that when I was a kid. Got it out of a chemistry set.

/Get off my lawn
 
2012-07-25 02:51:27 PM  
Could be worse:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goi%C3%A2nia_accident
 
2012-07-25 02:52:31 PM  
I bet half of those reading this have that old round thermostat on the wall....

/panpanic?
 
2012-07-25 02:54:02 PM  

xl5150: Dreyelle: How big would the bottle have to be to hold 40 pounds of liquid mercury?

Probably not that big. 40 pounds of mercury is a lot heavier than 40 pounds of feathers.


I'l disagree with that; I'll say 40 pounds of mercury weighs exactly the same amount as 40 pounds of feathers. The volume on the other hand...
 
2012-07-25 02:54:42 PM  

HailRobonia: What sort of moron hides anything in a sandbox?


My cat used to hide things in the sandbox outside. No one wanted to find them though.

Someone brought some mercury to school back in the day when officials weren't hand-wringing over what students brought all the time. We poured it into our hands and watched it roll around. One girl, though, became very upset when she discovered a property of mercury; it can absorb gold. It rolled over a gold ring she had on and the mercury stripped the gold plating right off the ring, leaving the base metal exposed.
 
2012-07-25 03:05:43 PM  
Before PC's were invented, we used to play with mercury on the kitchen table.
 
2012-07-25 03:06:44 PM  

grandma's famous pot pie recipe: xl5150: Dreyelle: How big would the bottle have to be to hold 40 pounds of liquid mercury?

Probably not that big. 40 pounds of mercury is a lot heavier than 40 pounds of feathers.

I'l disagree with that; I'll say 40 pounds of mercury weighs exactly the same amount as 40 pounds of feathers. The volume on the other hand...


I think you missed what he was trying to say. If you weighed out 40 pounds of Mercury, and then put it next to 40 pounds of feathers, you would find that the Mercury actually scientifically and psychologically weighs less. The reason for this is the mental phenomenon known as "that's the joke"
 
2012-07-25 03:13:37 PM  

Mikeyworld: So, ya got a GED in Chemistry from Wiki University?


Straight A's in AP Chem in high school, and a few years of Chemical Engineering in college before I went a different route. I stand by my assertions. Just because Wikipedia states the same thing doesn't make it or me wrong.

/I bow to your "prollys" and "abouts" and folk tales.
//The mercury vapor in a CFL is contained completely within the sealed container that is the bulb.
///The word you're looking for is "cumulative".
 
2012-07-25 03:25:07 PM  

jigger: eas81: Dreyelle: How big would the bottle have to be to hold 40 pounds of liquid mercury?

The density of Mercury is 13,593 kg/m3 (kilograms per cubic meter). That is equivalent to 113.4 lb/gal [US].(pounds per gallon).

Compare that to water, which is about 8.34 pounds per gallon.

[www.colloidalsilverhowto.com image 500x441]

That's why you use it in barometers instead of water or oil. If you used water, the column would have to be 33 meters tall instead of 760 mm.


Actually, they used mercury in thermometers and barometers because it remains in liquid form through a wider range of temperatures, and the amount it expands or contracts due to temperature is more linear than water or liquid compounds.

TLDR version: Mercury-based thermometers and barometers are more accurate.
 
2012-07-25 03:25:18 PM  

sexy-fetus: If I was the owner of that bar I'd be mad as a hatter right now.


What you did there...I see it.
 
2012-07-25 03:28:25 PM  

GWSuperfan: Quantum Apostrophe: As opposed to what? Solid mercury?

I came here to ask this.


and me. It would be a cold day in hell before he walked in with solid mercury...

jfivealive: grandma's famous pot pie recipe: xl5150: Dreyelle: How big would the bottle have to be to hold 40 pounds of liquid mercury?

Probably not that big. 40 pounds of mercury is a lot heavier than 40 pounds of feathers.

I'l disagree with that; I'll say 40 pounds of mercury weighs exactly the same amount as 40 pounds of feathers. The volume on the other hand...

I think you missed what he was trying to say. If you weighed out 40 pounds of Mercury, and then put it next to 40 pounds of feathers, you would find that the Mercury actually scientifically and psychologically weighs less. The reason for this is the mental phenomenon known as "that's the joke"


a pound of feathers weighs more than a pound of gold because precious metals such as gold are measured in troy weight. A troy pound is 12 troy ounces, and each troy ounce is 480 grains, making a total of 5760 grains to the pound of gold.

Most materials use pounds and ounces from the avoirdupois system, and such a standard pound is made up of 16 ounces, where each ounce is 437.5 grains, making a total of 7000 grains to the pound of feathers.

THAT is the joke.
 
2012-07-25 03:28:28 PM  
The liquid has little hazard. Like handling lead fish weights or getting gasoline on your hands (all carcinogens). Its the Vapor and some compounds (Dimethylmercury) that'll get ya.
 
2012-07-25 03:29:46 PM  
Mix it with red fuming nitric acid and run like hell?
 
2012-07-25 03:34:19 PM  
At least it wasn't fulminated....

blogs.amctv.com
 
2012-07-25 03:34:51 PM  
This is why we can't have nice things!

/ total fail
 
2012-07-25 03:48:24 PM  
HailRobonia

What sort of moron hides anything in a sandbox?

www.odorlesscatlitter.com



satanorsanta

about 1.34 liters. Less than 3/4 of a 2 L pop bottle

1.3 is less than 2?
Whew, thanks for the clarification there. I was confused there for a moment since it was all metric-y and stuff.
 
2012-07-25 03:59:10 PM  

Gecko Gingrich: Mikeyworld: So, ya got a GED in Chemistry from Wiki University?

Straight A's in AP Chem in high school, and a few years of Chemical Engineering in college before I went a different route. I stand by my assertions. Just because Wikipedia states the same thing doesn't make it or me wrong.

/I bow to your "prollys" and "abouts" and folk tales.
//The mercury vapor in a CFL is contained completely within the sealed container that is the bulb.
///The word you're looking for is "cumulative".


I'm glad you can grade punctuation. But My point was:

Mercury is dangerous, not (as you said) immediately, but over the years. With Mercury, a little goes a long way, that's why a CFL is dangerous when broken, not when you're changing blubs, Bub. I hold an electrical BS, long time EE...so there. Have worked with them Hammerites.
 
2012-07-25 03:59:26 PM  

show me: JudgeItoBox: Just a reminder that only one generation ago, your parents regularly played with mercury in their science classes. Like held it in their cupped hands and jiggled it around.

You're welcome.

Hell, I did that when I was a kid. Got it out of a chemistry set.

/Get off my lawn


My grandmother was a doctor and she would bring small bottles of mercury from the hospital for me to play with. I have no lli stceffe morf ti rehto than the occasional backwards typing thing
 
2012-07-25 04:02:19 PM  

LazarusLong42: Elemental mercury is impressively inert, especially in large quantities with a low surface area to volume ratio. Drinkable, in fact, though not more than a few milliliters because of its density.

Mercury droplets in the 1 mm range, though, have a high enough surface area to volume ratio that they can create a significant amount of vapor even at room temperature.

That thing was safe until he spilled it. Even better, store it in a sturdy container and covered in water to completely prevent vapor formation.


I have never heard of surface area to volume ratio as mattering. All I thought that matters is surface area. A pan of mercury that is 6 inches deep and 12 inches wide will release vapors at the same rate as one that is 24 inches deep and 12 inches wide.

Only difference with the 'droplet' example is that you have a curved space. A curved space may have an entirely different evaporation rate, but its not a function of volume.

Although I did find this paper which seems to back up your statement (although I didn't see an explanation for it):

http://www.urbanwateralliance.org.au/publications/UWSRA-tr8.pdf

That last thing part was cool though, I forgot about hydraulic tables, old school chemistry is the bomb.
 
2012-07-25 04:16:49 PM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-07-25 04:18:14 PM  
dammit. one of these days I'll learn skim the whole thread...
 
2012-07-25 04:35:41 PM  

Mikeyworld: Gecko Gingrich: Mikeyworld: So, ya got a GED in Chemistry from Wiki University?

Straight A's in AP Chem in high school, and a few years of Chemical Engineering in college before I went a different route. I stand by my assertions. Just because Wikipedia states the same thing doesn't make it or me wrong.

/I bow to your "prollys" and "abouts" and folk tales.
//The mercury vapor in a CFL is contained completely within the sealed container that is the bulb.
///The word you're looking for is "cumulative".

I'm glad you can grade punctuation. But My point was:

Mercury is dangerous, not (as you said) immediately, but over the years. With Mercury, a little goes a long way, that's why a CFL is dangerous when broken, not when you're changing blubs, Bub. I hold an electrical BS, long time EE...so there. Have worked with them Hammerites.


Builder be praised!
 
2012-07-25 04:43:48 PM  
So a dyslexic walks into a bra
 
2012-07-25 04:45:50 PM  

MythDragon: When I was in Iraq , I was changing the oil on a humvee. I looked at the pan of old, dirty oil, looked over 3 feet to my right, grabbed a shovel dug a 1 ft pit, and hucked in the oil. My platoon SGT saw this and started biatching. Who cares? I said. It's farking Iraq. This place is lousy with oil anyway. He then said how it was bad for the environment. I explained that it would simply soak into the ground and rejoin the natural oil table. My scientific knowledge must have really impressed him, because he just walked away, pinching the bridge of his nose.


Meanwhile when we were in Europe, if a vehicle dripped a drop of oil on the ground we had to dig it up, box it, and bring it back to the US for disposal.
 
2012-07-25 05:04:45 PM  
A few months back I cleaned up a school in Birmingham where the kids found a mason jar full of mercury. They threw it at each other, poured it in their pockets, took that shiat home, and the school staff/admins sent the janitor in to mop up the spill when it was discovered the kids had spread it all over. I can't really blame the kids, stupid though they are; the adults in charge had no farking clue what to do, from properly storing this shiat to dealing with the exposure/cleanup.

This guy is no different. He is quite simply a goddamn moran. Make him pay for all associated costs.
 
2012-07-25 05:08:46 PM  
Man, a thread like this really brings out the nerds, doesn't it?
 
2012-07-25 05:13:31 PM  

Necronic: LazarusLong42: Elemental mercury is impressively inert, especially in large quantities with a low surface area to volume ratio. Drinkable, in fact, though not more than a few milliliters because of its density.

Mercury droplets in the 1 mm range, though, have a high enough surface area to volume ratio that they can create a significant amount of vapor even at room temperature.

That thing was safe until he spilled it. Even better, store it in a sturdy container and covered in water to completely prevent vapor formation.


I have never heard of surface area to volume ratio as mattering. All I thought that matters is surface area. A pan of mercury that is 6 inches deep and 12 inches wide will release vapors at the same rate as one that is 24 inches deep and 12 inches wide.

Only difference with the 'droplet' example is that you have a curved space. A curved space may have an entirely different evaporation rate, but its not a function of volume.

Although I did find this paper which seems to back up your statement (although I didn't see an explanation for it):

http://www.urbanwateralliance.org.au/publications/UWSRA-tr8.pdf

That last thing part was cool though, I forgot about hydraulic tables, old school chemistry is the bomb.


Sorry, I guess the SA/V ratio thing isn't as obvious. In a large container, of course, you're correct. The SA/V problem comes into play when you divide the mercury into droplets; it's not the SA/V of each droplet but the SA/V of the entire sample. I was unclear.

Consider a single droplet of mercury with a radius of 1 mm. It has SA ~ 12 mm2 and V ~ 4 mm3. Now, cut it in half. You'll get two spheres, each with a volume of ~2 mm3. Each of these spheres has a surface area of ~7.5 mm2, so you've increased the SA by ~3 mm2, and increased evaporation rate by ~25%.

A mercury spill has a much larger surface area than a container of mercury. When the spill gets divided into droplets, which is to say almost always, things get progressively worse the more droplets. And of course a mercury spill on a soft surface like carpet is just... well, expect to replace the carpet, it's done for, you can't get it out.
 
2012-07-25 05:17:01 PM  

Kygz: Why are we discussing a liquid in weight and not volume?


Why are we discussing a liquid with words and not teaspoons?
 
2012-07-25 05:19:33 PM  

Weaver95: Emmet County emergency manager Terry Reekers says a construction worker remodeling a house found a plastic bottle with about 40 pounds of liquid mercury on Friday.

Reekers says the worker took the mercury to a bar to show friends.

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Um...


Reekers says the worker took the remaining mercury to the house and hid the bottle in a sandbox where four children later found it.
 
2012-07-25 05:21:11 PM  

HailRobonia: What sort of moron hides anything in a sandbox?


Cats.
 
2012-07-25 06:15:29 PM  
What mercury might look like enjoying a golden shower in the bar's men's room:
ramblingsofatvwhore.raelee.com
tvmedia.ign.com
 
2012-07-25 06:21:38 PM  
i.imgur.com
I thought he weighed more at the end.
 
2012-07-25 06:30:26 PM  
Dude will find more than 40 pounds of rape in prison.

/they better charge that dumbass.
 
2012-07-25 07:27:04 PM  

chuggernaught: Dude will find more than 40 pounds of rape in prison.

/they better charge that dumbass.


£40 of rape
 
2012-07-25 08:20:14 PM  
They found his piss jar.
i.annihil.us
 
2012-07-26 12:27:33 AM  

Mikeyworld: Hay now! These unsuccessful people can command up to $35/hr. Total that out to a year's wages and you'll see who the 'successful' people really are. And they don't have a student loan hangin' over their heads. Who's the dumb ape now?


They are the dumb apes, since their job can be done by a monkey. I make much more than them and I never have to break a sweat.
 
2012-07-26 03:26:17 AM  
I love any thread that brings the geeks out of the woodwork.

:)
 
2012-07-26 08:19:53 AM  

Resident Muslim: I love any thread that brings the geeks out of the woodwork.

:)


So...every thread on Fark then?
 
2012-07-26 10:18:36 AM  

urbangirl: If I were that stupid, I'd want to be referred to as "the worker" too.


/thread over
//lol'd
///would lol again
 
2012-07-26 12:55:33 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: As opposed to what? Solid mercury?


It would have to be pretty cold outside.
 
2012-07-26 01:15:15 PM  

danno_to_infinity: urbangirl: If I were that stupid, I'd want to be referred to as "the worker" too.

/thread over
//lol'd
///would lol again


my first "thread over".
life is good.
 
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