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2012-07-25 09:37:18 AM  
What are they trying to build, a clubhouse?
 
2012-07-25 09:39:47 AM  

Dead for Tax Reasons: What are they trying to build, a clubhouse?


*Shakes fist*

/came here to say that.
 
2012-07-25 09:47:28 AM  
Just goes to show, even garbage isn't garbage.
 
2012-07-25 09:59:32 AM  

dletter: Just goes to show, even garbage isn't garbage.


In the tri-state area, being in the garbage business is a strong circumstantial link to being
in the mob.

If so: these guys are probably in the mafia equivalent of the Special Ed program.
 
2012-07-25 10:20:36 AM  
I thought it was going to be more of these:

msnbcmedia.msn.com
 
2012-07-25 10:40:28 AM  
It was quite a flap.
 
2012-07-25 10:43:27 AM  
"I bought cardboard when it was 14 cents a ton , now it's at 16 cents and I bought 3 tons of it........so.............. you figure the math."
 
2012-07-25 10:45:45 AM  
Was it Mcdonalds?
 
2012-07-25 10:46:16 AM  
"It's my retirement cardboard!"
 
2012-07-25 11:33:52 AM  
newsinfo.iu.edu
How dare you recycle something WE were going to recycle?

At least this isn't as bad as grocery stores charging people with theft for 'stealing' from their garbage bins.
 
2012-07-25 11:38:12 AM  

MythDragon: [newsinfo.iu.edu image 308x301]
How dare you recycle something WE were going to recycle?

At least this isn't as bad as grocery stores charging people with theft for 'stealing' from their garbage bins.


Well, that sounds trivial, but, those stores have relationships with whomever they have contracted to take away their scrap cardboard, and obviously those companies do it because they can make money from the cardboard as well after they do their processing, so, it is effectively "stealing".

And the grocery stores charging the theft on garbage bin contents is more geared towards avoiding being sued by people for eating rotten cheese or hurting themselves while dumpster diving more than caring about the "trash" itself.
 
2012-07-25 11:39:39 AM  
It was Saturday, May 16th in New Jersey. Everywhere else, it was Sunday, September 4th. We got word from the Bunko Squad that there new muscle trying to corner the cardboard racket. My partner and I hit the street looking for answers.

New Jersey is a tough place for answers. Unless you count blank stares and shrugs of the shoulders. You gotta know who to ask, when to ask and when to say 'Please' and 'Thank You'.

Our first stop was a street corner in Caustic Corners, a quaint little place that used to have a refinery, chemical processing plant and a weapon deweaponizing facility. All that good stuff is gone now. Just row houses and Despair. Fred Despair, our contact.

"So whatdayaknow about the cardboard biz, Despair, please and thank you?" I asked him. He stood on the corner, looking at where the Weapon Deweaponizing Plant used to be. Now it was just a day care center and a Cancer Treatment Center. He acted like he didn't even see me. "I don' know nuttin' about cardboard." He muttered finally.

"It's a process of reinforcing thin sheets of paper in layers. Everything is measured in mils thick. Correlated cardboard is layered paper with raised channels providing reinforcement and padding." I said.

"Ah, I could have gotten that much off the Wikipedia page, but I haven't donated to dem lately, so I feels guilty going there. Unless it's about porn stars an' I'm at work." He mutters. "Them web filters. They think they're so smart. I hear there's new muscle on the lower north east side. Looking to score a couple of tons of the good stuff and sell it to the Chinese. There's a barge down at the dock. The captain of el debarge is Johnny Who. He'll tell you everything you want to know. "

"Good because I was wondering if I should get an electric car now or wait for the battery technology to mature."

We went down to the lower north east side and found the barge. The Captain, Johnny Who was less than forthcoming with his answers. He thought the electric car was a good idea for some people but you may want to keep a gas powered car for trips. If so, then why buy an electric car? He seemed confused. He was also confused as to how all that cardboard got on his boat.

"That not cardboard. Ancient Chinese paper. Chinese invent paper, not cardboard. Chinese paper go back to China. We breed it with Chinese paper already there to make good stock" he said with a wry grin.

"I'm pretty sure it doesn't work that way. There are trees involved somehow" I said. "Now tell us where you got the cardboard or my partner here is going to sing that Gotye song: Both the man and the woman's part. You don't want to hear that."

"Oh! I don't want that song stuck in my head no more! I tell you. Three guys come to me with tons of Chinese paper, er, card-y-board. They say they get more and come back real soon. Why, there they are right now!" Who said pointing down the dock.

"You mean those three guys in that truck full of cardboard?" I asked quizzically.

"No. That truckload of Chinese paper. We really do breed paper. Ancient Chinese secret. Behind them. Three guys in other truck with card-y-board" the hot shot said.

We moved on them as fast as we could but the three guys in the truck with the Chinese paper wouldn't get out of out way. So we wasted precious time and preciouser bullets there. After we reloaded and got to the guys with the cardboard, they had other problems.

A big black Hyundai swept in and got between us and the card-y-board, er cardboard thieves. It was the Charmin Gang: the biggest, most notorious cardboard thieving gang in the tri-state, bi-county and single nation area. Their retribution was quick, brutal, accurate, brutal, painful, loud, gun smokey and quick. The hapless cardboard thieves were wiped out by the Charmin Gang. They didn't even stop to ply them with questions. Before we could get to the Charmin Gang, they jumped back in to the huge Hyundai and took off. The Chinese captain took this opportunity to slip his lines and sail for open water. He was in open waters before we could find the guy at the Coast Guard who had keys to a boat.

So we wound up with three corpses, plus the suicide victims in the Chinese paper truck, a bunch of worthless and bloody cardboard and six Krispy Kreme donuts that the cardboard thieves hadn't eaten or bloodied too much. Of course our police captain was ticked that we didn't bring him any donuts but his blood sugar must be in the upper 300s. He don't need no more desert.

So it was a crappy ending to a crappy day. But we made it through alive and according to our report, we made New Jersey just a little safer. What will tomorrow hold? Well, according to my Outlook calendar, it's meetings until lunch and then remedial training on cardboard verses Chinese paper. Man, looks like tomorrow is going to be a bear.
 
2012-07-25 11:50:01 AM  
On the subject of dumpster diving....

When I worked for Walmart, we would donate any clothes or other items possible that were marked for disposal. (Some items that were out of package, slightly damaged, etc. were considered write-offs) But many items had to be disposed of per the originating company. We actually had to slash through shirts and bust apart products before throwing them away as the dumpster divers would check daily.

They would take things out of the dumpster, bring them into the store, claim they bought it (can't find receipt) and it's broken. Then they'd demand a refund or new item. One stupid family dragged a partial gas grill in (that we had just thrown away a mere 15 minutes earlier) and demanded a new one.... they were fortunately denied. The sad part.... on camera, you could see them practically launching their children into this dumpster of sharp and broken items to search for them.

Any items that were complete and usable (if allowed) were raffled off to employees several times per year and the money donated to charity.

There's a reason the stuff is in the dumpster. It might be broken... it might be contaminated.... yet people still drag the stuff out thinking the store is doing a disservice to them by throwing it away.

Heck, there was a spree by a serial masturbator who would go into the baby/children's section and do his thing.... wiping on a clothes item when done. He was eventually caught, but employees had to dispose of the clothing items when found. Always wondered if anyone fished that stuff out of the dumpster and took it home.
 
2012-07-25 12:21:50 PM  

Harry Freakstorm: It was Saturday, May 16th in New Jersey. Everywhere else, it was Sunday, September 4th. We got word from the Bunko Squad that there new muscle trying to corner the cardboard racket. My partner and I hit the street looking for answers.

New Jersey is a tough place for answers. Unless you count blank stares and shrugs of the shoulders. You gotta know who to ask, when to ask and when to say 'Please' and 'Thank You'.

Our first stop was a street corner in Caustic Corners, a quaint little place that used to have a refinery, chemical processing plant and a weapon deweaponizing facility. All that good stuff is gone now. Just row houses and Despair. Fred Despair, our contact.

"So whatdayaknow about the cardboard biz, Despair, please and thank you?" I asked him. He stood on the corner, looking at where the Weapon Deweaponizing Plant used to be. Now it was just a day care center and a Cancer Treatment Center. He acted like he didn't even see me. "I don' know nuttin' about cardboard." He muttered finally.

"It's a process of reinforcing thin sheets of paper in layers. Everything is measured in mils thick. Correlated cardboard is layered paper with raised channels providing reinforcement and padding." I said.

"Ah, I could have gotten that much off the Wikipedia page, but I haven't donated to dem lately, so I feels guilty going there. Unless it's about porn stars an' I'm at work." He mutters. "Them web filters. They think they're so smart. I hear there's new muscle on the lower north east side. Looking to score a couple of tons of the good stuff and sell it to the Chinese. There's a barge down at the dock. The captain of el debarge is Johnny Who. He'll tell you everything you want to know. "

"Good because I was wondering if I should get an electric car now or wait for the battery technology to mature."

We went down to the lower north east side and found the barge. The Captain, Johnny Who was less than forthcoming with his answers. He thought the electric car was a good idea for some people but you may want to keep a gas powered car for trips. If so, then why buy an electric car? He seemed confused. He was also confused as to how all that cardboard got on his boat.

"That not cardboard. Ancient Chinese paper. Chinese invent paper, not cardboard. Chinese paper go back to China. We breed it with Chinese paper already there to make good stock" he said with a wry grin.

"I'm pretty sure it doesn't work that way. There are trees involved somehow" I said. "Now tell us where you got the cardboard or my partner here is going to sing that Gotye song: Both the man and the woman's part. You don't want to hear that."

"Oh! I don't want that song stuck in my head no more! I tell you. Three guys come to me with tons of Chinese paper, er, card-y-board. They say they get more and come back real soon. Why, there they are right now!" Who said pointing down the dock.

"You mean those three guys in that truck full of cardboard?" I asked quizzically.

"No. That truckload of Chinese paper. We really do breed paper. Ancient Chinese secret. Behind them. Three guys in other truck with card-y-board" the hot shot said.

We moved on them as fast as we could but the three guys in the truck with the Chinese paper wouldn't get out of out way. So we wasted precious time and preciouser bullets there. After we reloaded and got to the guys with the cardboard, they had other problems.

A big black Hyundai swept in and got between us and the card-y-board, er cardboard thieves. It was the Charmin Gang: the biggest, most notorious cardboard thieving gang in the tri-state, bi-county and single nation area. Their retribution was quick, brutal, accurate, brutal, painful, loud, gun smokey and quick. The hapless cardboard thieves were wiped out by the Charmin Gang. They didn't even stop to ply them with questions. Before we could get to the Charmin Gang, they jumped back in to the huge Hyundai and took off. The Chinese captain took this opportunity to slip his lines and sail for open water. He was in open waters before we could find the guy at the Coast Guard who had keys to a boat.

So we wound up with three corpses, plus the suicide victims in the Chinese paper truck, a bunch of worthless and bloody cardboard and six Krispy Kreme donuts that the cardboard thieves hadn't eaten or bloodied too much. Of course our police captain was ticked that we didn't bring him any donuts but his blood sugar must be in the upper 300s. He don't need no more desert.

So it was a crappy ending to a crappy day. But we made it through alive and according to our report, we made New Jersey just a little safer. What will tomorrow hold? Well, according to my Outlook calendar, it's meetings until lunch and then remedial training on cardboard verses Chinese paper. Man, looks like tomorrow is going to be a bear.


You sir......are a saint
 
2012-07-25 12:59:43 PM  

Harry Freakstorm: It was Saturday, May 16th in New Jersey. Everywhere else, it was Sunday, September 4th. We got word from the Bunko Squad that there new muscle trying to corner the cardboard racket. My partner and I hit the street looking for answers.

New Jersey is a tough place for answers. Unless you count blank stares and shrugs of the shoulders. You gotta know who to ask, when to ask and when to say 'Please' and 'Thank You'.

Our first stop was a street corner in Caustic Corners, a quaint little place that used to have a refinery, chemical processing plant and a weapon deweaponizing facility. All that good stuff is gone now. Just row houses and Despair. Fred Despair, our contact.

"So whatdayaknow about the cardboard biz, Despair, please and thank you?" I asked him. He stood on the corner, looking at where the Weapon Deweaponizing Plant used to be. Now it was just a day care center and a Cancer Treatment Center. He acted like he didn't even see me. "I don' know nuttin' about cardboard." He muttered finally.

"It's a process of reinforcing thin sheets of paper in layers. Everything is measured in mils thick. Correlated cardboard is layered paper with raised channels providing reinforcement and padding." I said.

"Ah, I could have gotten that much off the Wikipedia page, but I haven't donated to dem lately, so I feels guilty going there. Unless it's about porn stars an' I'm at work." He mutters. "Them web filters. They think they're so smart. I hear there's new muscle on the lower north east side. Looking to score a couple of tons of the good stuff and sell it to the Chinese. There's a barge down at the dock. The captain of el debarge is Johnny Who. He'll tell you everything you want to know. "

"Good because I was wondering if I should get an electric car now or wait for the battery technology to mature."

We went down to the lower north east side and found the barge. The Captain, Johnny Who was less than forthcoming with his answers. He thought the electric car was a good idea ...


Very good dude. I like the cut of your jib, as it were. Have you read my piece "So, you want to buy a Moat Monster" that I penned for the Home Depot help desk?
 
2012-07-25 01:06:27 PM  
So, you want to buy a Moat Monster...

The single most valuable owner-installed home improvement?

A moat.
And a moat monster.
Definately.
I would highly recommend a good well bred Moat Monster, preferrably an adult one that has all it's teeth and claws.
Babies are all right to raise, but care will usually include playtime and the usual catch and release training.
It can get to be time consuming as they become a "pet" early on, and then you also have the bonding issue.
Bear in mind that juveniles are really jumpy, they will attack anything (including the owner!) and are undersized.
I'd advise looking for an adult weight of just over a ton (2000 lbs) and a shoulder height of 120 inches minimum,
with a ten foot arm reach. Claws should be 12 inches to 18 inches, and there should be a full set of four on each leg.
Check the ears for veterinary tags, they'll tell you the approximate age, and if there are no tags, you may be looking at a repurposed HellHound. HellHounds are usually afraid of deep water as well.
(There are exceptions: the Portuguese Water HellHounds are bred for wet and swampy conditions, but the breed is fairly rare and thus expensive)
If you cannot install a moat, I would choose a HellHound.
If you are having trouble finding a good moat monster, check with the guys over at Disney.
They usually have at least five or six adults, and since they are actively involved in breeding and raising them, they can refer you to a good broker that will usually have what you are looking for.
Moat monsters are very clean, self regulating and very inexpensive, once you get the habitat correctly set up.
And you only need to feed them one or two cattle every week, depending on the monsters size.
Overfeeding tends to make them sluggish.
Underfeeding them makes them unmanagable and overly agressive.

Make sure you check with the city before installing your moat monster, and make sure the moat monster is up to code.
Most modern moat monsters have a checklist to be watched, it includes veterinarian visits and monthly trap clean-outs (bones, etc) plus you will need good fang maintenance plan. I have a Delta plan, and though they are expensive, they will come to the site to perform the maintenance.
It's a necessary expense, one of the few needed to make your monster into a "happy", well adjusted Monster.
Toothless moat monsters usually do not live very long.

Caution!
Moat monsters are not suitable around small children, as the monster will see the children as small tasty "snacks".
Could be problematic dealing with the neighborhood children, as the moat monster usually draws children like flies.

I've never had any problems with mine, but I have heard through the support groups that there have been issues with some towns using local ordinances concerning livestock.
Those issues usually center around noise abatement, and if your vet can do it, the moat monster can be modified to remove the roargan and thus make your moat monster as quiet as a mouse. It's not normally something you would want to do on purpose, but if it needs to be done to make code compliance, then the Vet can do it.
My current moat monster can lunge well over thirty feet (all the way out to the property line), so I don't have any troubles with salesmen or Jehovah's Witnesses anymore.
( there was that incident with the mailman, and now I don't get any home mail delivery, so I've gotten a PO box)

All in all, I'm very happy with my landscaping choices.
I've never had so much peace of mind, not even a hint of trouble. And there's that built in anti-theft mechanism, wherein all the thieves get eaten immediately.

I can even leave my windows open when I leave for work, no problem.
Neighbors tell me that now, the area around our house is considered to be the -least- likely to be burglarized at any time...

Happy Halloween.
 
2012-07-25 02:03:03 PM  

Harry Freakstorm: It was Saturday, May 16th in New Jersey. Everywhere else, it was Sunday, September 4th. We got word from the Bunko Squad that there new muscle trying to corner the cardboard racket. My partner and I hit the street looking for answers.

New Jersey is a tough place for answers. Unless you count blank stares and shrugs of the shoulders. You gotta know who to ask, when to ask and when to say 'Please' and 'Thank You'.

Our first stop was a street corner in Caustic Corners, a quaint little place that used to have a refinery, chemical processing plant and a weapon deweaponizing facility. All that good stuff is gone now. Just row houses and Despair. Fred Despair, our contact.

"So whatdayaknow about the cardboard biz, Despair, please and thank you?" I asked him. He stood on the corner, looking at where the Weapon Deweaponizing Plant used to be. Now it was just a day care center and a Cancer Treatment Center. He acted like he didn't even see me. "I don' know nuttin' about cardboard." He muttered finally.

"It's a process of reinforcing thin sheets of paper in layers. Everything is measured in mils thick. Correlated cardboard is layered paper with raised channels providing reinforcement and padding." I said.

"Ah, I could have gotten that much off the Wikipedia page, but I haven't donated to dem lately, so I feels guilty going there. Unless it's about porn stars an' I'm at work." He mutters. "Them web filters. They think they're so smart. I hear there's new muscle on the lower north east side. Looking to score a couple of tons of the good stuff and sell it to the Chinese. There's a barge down at the dock. The captain of el debarge is Johnny Who. He'll tell you everything you want to know. "

"Good because I was wondering if I should get an electric car now or wait for the battery technology to mature."

We went down to the lower north east side and found the barge. The Captain, Johnny Who was less than forthcoming with his answers. He thought the e ...


I am a bit drunk but you are VERY medicated. (well, probably not). good post
 
2012-07-25 02:54:55 PM  
content6.flixster.com

Really? I'm the first?
 
2012-07-25 02:55:42 PM  
Nope, done in one. I fail
 
2012-07-25 08:31:21 PM  
Stores actually make a "fair" amount of money on bailed cardboard. A few years ago, I worked in a higher end, obnoxiously large grocery store that starts with a W. The store would get $125 each so for each bale (which was about a ton). And we had to make one a day, if not more. Nothing to sneeze at for something that is pretty much "free" from the manufacturer/distributor.

/Wasn't really that environmentally friendly as they loaded up a trailer full of heavy bales and trucked them through almost two states to the corporate headquarters.

Cardboard boxes are akin to used cooking oil and batteries nowadays..businesses make money on stuff they had to pay to get rid of.
 
2012-07-26 12:27:24 AM  
How you gonna go and get fired on your day off?
 
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