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2012-07-25 09:30:52 AM
WWF. That takes me back. It was fake and stupid then too. ;)
 
2012-07-25 09:38:26 AM
ohai!

web.mit.edu
 
2012-07-25 09:45:13 AM

Vespizzari: WWF. That takes me back. It was fake and stupid then too. ;)


www.standlikearock.net
 
2012-07-25 09:52:10 AM
If you think it's stupid because it's "fake", then you just don't get it and you probably shouldn't be watching, much less commenting about it. It's an art form all it's own, and while it may not be "real", I can assure you that it certainly is quite dangerous and extremely taxing on the people who perform it. I suggest learning more about it. Try reading, say, Mick Foley's book. That guy gave more of himself for sports entertainment than anyone I can think of.

Wrestling is theatre. Very physical and dangerous theatre. It was always that way, all the way back to the Luchadores in Mexico where the art originated. It's like a live action comic book. It's intended to draw the viewer into the drama. I remember one night where Duane Johnson (The Rock) had a stadium of 88 thousand people whipped up into a nueremberg-esque frenzy that just glued me to my set. Sure it wasn't "real", but the drama of it was... well... electrifying.

So you like it or you don't. I tend to vascillate in between the two. But recognize the art for what it is, and recognize the people who work so hard and give so much of themselves simply to entertain you. They paid the price in pain (yes, it's "fake" but it hurts anyways) and by going before the crowds night after night in venue after venue to be champions. Not champions who defeated all their challengers, but champions that won your heart.

That's all I have to say about that.
 
2012-07-25 09:52:11 AM

Vespizzari: WWF. That takes me back. It was fake and stupid then too. ;)


So's Star Trek, but it's still fun to watch.
 
2012-07-25 10:09:22 AM

frak21: Wrestling is theatre. Very physical and dangerous theatre. It was always that way, all the way back to the Luchadores in Mexico where the art originated.


historyoftheancientworld.com
 
2012-07-25 10:15:16 AM

frak21: If you think it's stupid because it's "fake", then you just don't get it and you probably shouldn't be watching, much less commenting about it. It's an art form all it's own, and while it may not be "real", I can assure you that it certainly is quite dangerous and extremely taxing on the people who perform it. I suggest learning more about it. Try reading, say, Mick Foley's book. That guy gave more of himself for sports entertainment than anyone I can think of.

Wrestling is theatre. Very physical and dangerous theatre. It was always that way, all the way back to the Luchadores in Mexico where the art originated. It's like a live action comic book. It's intended to draw the viewer into the drama. I remember one night where Duane Johnson (The Rock) had a stadium of 88 thousand people whipped up into a nueremberg-esque frenzy that just glued me to my set. Sure it wasn't "real", but the drama of it was... well... electrifying.

So you like it or you don't. I tend to vascillate in between the two. But recognize the art for what it is, and recognize the people who work so hard and give so much of themselves simply to entertain you. They paid the price in pain (yes, it's "fake" but it hurts anyways) and by going before the crowds night after night in venue after venue to be champions. Not champions who defeated all their challengers, but champions that won your heart.

That's all I have to say about that.


It's also stupid because it's stupid. You forgot that part.
 
2012-07-25 10:18:08 AM
Hetero Male Adults watch this?

whitethreads.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-07-25 10:42:37 AM

frak21: If you think it's stupid because it's "fake", then you just don't get it and you probably shouldn't be watching, much less commenting about it. It's an art form all it's own, and while it may not be "real", I can assure you that it certainly is quite dangerous and extremely taxing on the people who perform it. I suggest learning more about it. Try reading, say, Mick Foley's book. That guy gave more of himself for sports entertainment than anyone I can think of.

Wrestling is theatre. Very physical and dangerous theatre. It was always that way, all the way back to the Luchadores in Mexico where the art originated. It's like a live action comic book. It's intended to draw the viewer into the drama. I remember one night where Duane Johnson (The Rock) had a stadium of 88 thousand people whipped up into a nueremberg-esque frenzy that just glued me to my set. Sure it wasn't "real", but the drama of it was... well... electrifying.

So you like it or you don't. I tend to vascillate in between the two. But recognize the art for what it is, and recognize the people who work so hard and give so much of themselves simply to entertain you. They paid the price in pain (yes, it's "fake" but it hurts anyways) and by going before the crowds night after night in venue after venue to be champions. Not champions who defeated all their challengers, but champions that won your heart.

That's all I have to say about that.


This. It's physical theater. Nobody gets upset because soap operas aren't real or because the kids on Glee don't get beaten up in real life. Realize that it's just a show like any other and you can enjoy it all the more.
 
2012-07-25 10:46:01 AM
I miss the Attitude Era. That is all.
 
2012-07-25 11:09:46 AM

mooseyfate: I miss the Attitude Era. That is all.


I don't.
 
2012-07-25 11:21:22 AM
The guy that used to do it for WWE went over to TNA a few years ago. They've never found anyone who could do it as good.

/same with Howard Finkel
 
2012-07-25 11:36:39 AM
 
2012-07-25 11:38:46 AM

howdoibegin: frak21: If you think it's stupid because it's "fake", then you just don't get it and you probably shouldn't be watching, much less commenting about it. It's an art form all it's own, and while it may not be "real", I can assure you that it certainly is quite dangerous and extremely taxing on the people who perform it. I suggest learning more about it. Try reading, say, Mick Foley's book. That guy gave more of himself for sports entertainment than anyone I can think of.

Wrestling is theatre. Very physical and dangerous theatre. It was always that way, all the way back to the Luchadores in Mexico where the art originated. It's like a live action comic book. It's intended to draw the viewer into the drama. I remember one night where Duane Johnson (The Rock) had a stadium of 88 thousand people whipped up into a nueremberg-esque frenzy that just glued me to my set. Sure it wasn't "real", but the drama of it was... well... electrifying.

So you like it or you don't. I tend to vascillate in between the two. But recognize the art for what it is, and recognize the people who work so hard and give so much of themselves simply to entertain you. They paid the price in pain (yes, it's "fake" but it hurts anyways) and by going before the crowds night after night in venue after venue to be champions. Not champions who defeated all their challengers, but champions that won your heart.

That's all I have to say about that.

It's also stupid because it's stupid. You forgot that part.


Guilty pleasures are guilty pleasures.

I am sure there are shows you watch that I would never consider watching.

Just take solace at least one of these greenlights wasn;t on the sports tab, eh?
 
2012-07-25 11:44:29 AM
www.bedbathandbeyond.com


All the drama of a Sunday morning episode of GI Joe + Banana Hammocks


/trollolooolololoool
 
2012-07-25 12:53:07 PM
Here's a fun game: Drink when you see a dead man.

Undertaker doesn't count.
 
2012-07-25 01:34:09 PM

ArkAngel: This. It's physical theater. Nobody gets upset because soap operas aren't real or because the kids on Glee don't get beaten up in real life. Realize that it's just a show like any other and you can enjoy it all the more.


*raises hand* Uh...
 
2012-07-25 02:00:01 PM

frak21: If you think it's stupid because it's "fake", then you just don't get it and you probably shouldn't be watching, much less commenting about it. It's an art form all it's own, and while it may not be "real", I can assure you that it certainly is quite dangerous and extremely taxing on the people who perform it. I suggest learning more about it. Try reading, say, Mick Foley's book. That guy gave more of himself for sports entertainment than anyone I can think of.

Wrestling is theatre. Very physical and dangerous theatre. It was always that way, all the way back to the Luchadores in Mexico where the art originated. It's like a live action comic book. It's intended to draw the viewer into the drama. I remember one night where Duane Johnson (The Rock) had a stadium of 88 thousand people whipped up into a nueremberg-esque frenzy that just glued me to my set. Sure it wasn't "real", but the drama of it was... well... electrifying.

So you like it or you don't. I tend to vascillate in between the two. But recognize the art for what it is, and recognize the people who work so hard and give so much of themselves simply to entertain you. They paid the price in pain (yes, it's "fake" but it hurts anyways) and by going before the crowds night after night in venue after venue to be champions. Not champions who defeated all their challengers, but champions that won your heart.

That's all I have to say about that.


Lame.
 
2012-07-25 02:47:37 PM
Fake, yes.

Lucrative? You betcha.

You can moan and biatch about how staged it is, but as the right honorable gentleman says, if you hate it because it's fake, then you should pay it no attention whatsoever. It's escapism, it's moderate hero-worship, and the trusts and charities set up by the WWE changes the lives of thousands of people every month.

I'm British, and I grew up watching Big Daddy & Giant Haystacks every saturday morning. Looking back, it's laughably bad, but by god, it was entertaining.

Theaetetus: frak21: Wrestling is theatre. Very physical and dangerous theatre. It was always that way, all the way back to the Luchadores in Mexico where the art originated.

[historyoftheancientworld.com image 300x300]


Yes, that's Greco-Roman, not theatrical wrestling, You won't see HHH or Ray Mysterio winning any Gold medals this Olympic season
 
2012-07-25 03:13:42 PM
The fakeness doesn't and has never bothered me. I can accept pro wrestling as being as choreographed as any acrobat or trapeze artist, or a carful of clowns. What bothers me more and more, especially with WWE, is the carniness of it all. Vince McMahon really is the biggest scamming, scuzzy f*cking carny on the goddamned planet. He isn't happy if he doesn't think he's ripping you off somehow.
 
2012-07-25 03:20:40 PM

Stantz: Fake, yes.

Lucrative? You betcha.

You can moan and biatch about how staged it is, but as the right honorable gentleman says, if you hate it because it's fake, then you should pay it no attention whatsoever. It's escapism, it's moderate hero-worship, and the trusts and charities set up by the WWE changes the lives of thousands of people every month.

I'm British, and I grew up watching Big Daddy & Giant Haystacks every saturday morning. Looking back, it's laughably bad, but by god, it was entertaining.

Theaetetus: frak21: Wrestling is theatre. Very physical and dangerous theatre. It was always that way, all the way back to the Luchadores in Mexico where the art originated.

[historyoftheancientworld.com image 300x300]

Yes, that's Greco-Roman, not theatrical wrestling, You won't see HHH or Ray Mysterio winning any Gold medals this Olympic season


Kurt Angle tired.

Again.
 
2012-07-25 03:21:41 PM
The best WWF moment of all time is when Reverend Slick taught Kamala to bowl.

Anyone who tells you otherwise is racist, stupid, and unworthy of being a true wrestling fanatic.
 
2012-07-25 04:41:26 PM
Steroids. They's a biatch.
 
2012-07-25 04:51:20 PM
To be fair, even at the time everyone was all like HEY HEY HEY WHOOOAAAAAAA when that package aired during the early days of the Vince vs Flair feud after the latter returned post-Invasion. It wasn't typical for that or any period.
 
2012-07-25 06:26:03 PM
Dead wrestlers much?
 
2012-07-25 08:06:53 PM

rjakobi: The best WWF moment of all time is when Reverend Slick taught Kamala to bowl.

Anyone who tells you otherwise is racist, stupid, and unworthy of being a true wrestling fanatic.


Paying 5 bucks for a used copy of the Invasion of the Bodyslammers VHS was probably the wisest wrestling video purchase I ever made.
 
2012-07-25 09:34:34 PM
Jackass is also physical Theatre
 
2012-07-25 11:20:41 PM
Sir, I'm going to have to ask you to take your gay porn somewhere else.
 
2012-07-25 11:45:50 PM

Stantz: Fake, yes.

Lucrative? You betcha.

You can moan and biatch about how staged it is, but as the right honorable gentleman says, if you hate it because it's fake, then you should pay it no attention whatsoever. It's escapism, it's moderate hero-worship, and the trusts and charities set up by the WWE changes the lives of thousands of people every month.

I'm British, and I grew up watching Big Daddy & Giant Haystacks every saturday morning. Looking back, it's laughably bad, but by god, it was entertaining.


This comment brought me back into the thread. I learned of wrestling from my Grandfather, who watched it as far back as the 50's. I grew up watching it through the late 70's, 80's, 90's, and to a lesser extent the 00's. All that time I viewed it as being something totally American, like the fairs or tractor pulls my father would take us to.

Never once did I think that people all across the globe could be (or would be) watching and enjoying as I did. It's a really cool thought that there were folks over in England having as much fun as I was. I suppose, given the wide variety of nationalities that wrestlers originate from, that it should have been patently obvious. That's a flaw that many Americans suffer from, I suppose. The thought that America is all there is.

So from this Tennessee native, I say Cheers! Oh yeah, and the British Bulldogs were an awesome team.


Stantz: Theaetetus: frak21: Wrestling is theatre. Very physical and dangerous theatre. It was always that way, all the way back to the Luchadores in Mexico where the art originated.

[historyoftheancientworld.com image 300x300]

Yes, that's Greco-Roman, not theatrical wrestling, You won't see HHH or Ray Mysterio winning any Gold medals this Olympic season


I was going to point that out as well, but the thread had me facepalming so hard I just couldn't find a reason to re-enter it.
 
2012-07-25 11:55:28 PM

frak21: Stantz: Fake, yes.

Lucrative? You betcha.

You can moan and biatch about how staged it is, but as the right honorable gentleman says, if you hate it because it's fake, then you should pay it no attention whatsoever. It's escapism, it's moderate hero-worship, and the trusts and charities set up by the WWE changes the lives of thousands of people every month.

I'm British, and I grew up watching Big Daddy & Giant Haystacks every saturday morning. Looking back, it's laughably bad, but by god, it was entertaining.

This comment brought me back into the thread. I learned of wrestling from my Grandfather, who watched it as far back as the 50's. I grew up watching it through the late 70's, 80's, 90's, and to a lesser extent the 00's. All that time I viewed it as being something totally American, like the fairs or tractor pulls my father would take us to.

Never once did I think that people all across the globe could be (or would be) watching and enjoying as I did. It's a really cool thought that there were folks over in England having as much fun as I was. I suppose, given the wide variety of nationalities that wrestlers originate from, that it should have been patently obvious. That's a flaw that many Americans suffer from, I suppose. The thought that America is all there is.

So from this Tennessee native, I say Cheers! Oh yeah, and the British Bulldogs were an awesome team.




Pro wrestling was also a major thing (and still is) in Japan. The Rikidozan/Lou Thesz bout for the NWA Title in 1957 drew an 87.0 rating. A 1963 Rikidozan vs. Destroyer match drew a 67.0 rating, but even more total viewers in since more people owned TV sets.

Canada was another hot spot for pro wrestling, with Stu Hart's Stampede wrestling being fairly successful from 1948 until Vince invaded in 1984.

And Mexico... Mil Mascaras and El Santo were cultural icons, with Santo even being amovie star.
 
2012-07-26 12:14:17 AM

rjakobi: The best WWF moment of all time is when Reverend Slick taught Kamala to bowl.

Anyone who tells you otherwise is racist, stupid, and unworthy of being a true wrestling fanatic.



Kamala (The Ugandan Giant) was one of my favorites. The guy was known for trying to gnaw on his fallen opponents! Also: Best Entrance Music Ever.
 
2012-07-26 02:17:28 AM
encrypted-tbn0.google.com
 
2012-07-26 02:48:22 AM
so uh... what in that video am I supposed to care about and what makes it good?
 
2012-07-26 02:58:34 AM

FirstNationalBastard: Mil Mascaras and El Santo were cultural icons, with Santo even being amovie star.


upload.wikimedia.org

El Santo vs. The Vampire Women - find it, or just check out the MST3K ep. that has it. You'll thank me.
 
2012-07-26 03:45:35 PM
That song is almost as bad as pro wrestling.
 
2012-07-27 08:19:12 PM
The Flair vs. Sting match that concluded the final episode of WCW Monday Nitro and this video were the last great events of the golden age of pro wrestling.
 
2012-07-27 09:26:55 PM
The Attitude era is about the time interest in the WWF peaked and started falling. It's one thing having a wrestler who can wrestle but have poor people skills. We get that. But do all new "stars" have to be so vocal before wrestling?
 
2012-07-28 03:41:25 PM
That was definitely a..... video.
 
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