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2012-07-24 07:22:27 PM  
But the sheriff made his worst impressions while answering questions about his book, Joe's Law.

Basically, anytime Arpaio was shown some of the blatant bigotry in that book, he blamed it on co-author Len Sherman. And this was despite being read back his testimony from a previous deposition in which he'd said he didn't need to read his own book because he'd written it himself.

Arpaio was forced by Young to back off from a couple of statements in the book, including one in which he wrote that Mexicans don't come to the United States with the same hopes and dreams as people from other countries.. In another part of the book, Young pointed out, Arpaio wrote that second- and third-generation Mexican-Americans were not part of the American "mainstream."

"My co-author wrote that," Arpaio blurted out.


He has so much rope, he could dangle from the Empire State Building and touch the ground.
 
2012-07-24 07:34:34 PM  
How long do you think it will be before his co-author turns on him?

I'll give it until the end of business tomorrow.
 
2012-07-24 07:38:33 PM  
This pleases me.
 
2012-07-24 07:52:22 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Arpaio was forced by Young to back off from a couple of statements in the book, including one in which he wrote that Mexicans don't come to the United States with the same hopes and dreams as people from other countries.. In another part of the book, Young pointed out, Arpaio wrote that second- and third-generation Mexican-Americans were not part of the American "mainstream."


Wait a minute...you mean to tell me that when I drove through AZ a few months ago, I had no reason to be afraid of being harassed for being brown, because Arpaio and his goons would instantly know that I'm 4th gen*?!?

I'm just as brown as the other Messicans.

*on my mother's side
 
2012-07-24 08:00:09 PM  

Nadie_AZ: But the sheriff made his worst impressions while answering questions about his book, Joe's Law.

Basically, anytime Arpaio was shown some of the blatant bigotry in that book, he blamed it on co-author Len Sherman. And this was despite being read back his testimony from a previous deposition in which he'd said he didn't need to read his own book because he'd written it himself.

Arpaio was forced by Young to back off from a couple of statements in the book, including one in which he wrote that Mexicans don't come to the United States with the same hopes and dreams as people from other countries.. In another part of the book, Young pointed out, Arpaio wrote that second- and third-generation Mexican-Americans were not part of the American "mainstream."

"My co-author wrote that," Arpaio blurted out.

He has so much rope, he could dangle from the Empire State Building and touch the ground.


I'm a 5th-generation Arizonan. We were here when this was Mexico, and I'm here to tell you that my family is just as white trash as any other family out there, thankyouverymuch.

Arpaio can eat a dick.
 
2012-07-24 08:57:49 PM  
Goodbye, Joe. You're done here.
 
2012-07-24 08:57:55 PM  
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

*gasp*

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
2012-07-24 09:46:40 PM  
Am I the only one who wouldn't mind seeing Joe Arpaio taking the Budd Dwyer retirement plan?
 
2012-07-24 10:17:10 PM  

Nadie_AZ: He has so much rope, he could dangle from the Empire State Building and touch the ground.


can i suggest we stop giving him so much goddamned rope then and start attempting to get a little tension in the line?
 
2012-07-24 10:27:14 PM  

Bloody William: Am I the only one who wouldn't mind seeing Joe Arpaio taking the Budd Dwyer retirement plan?


There's no way this cockbag wouldn't try to take out others. He doesn't even have the decency to off himself.
 
2012-07-24 10:35:59 PM  
it really wouldn't bother me if this particular DOJ attempt gets arpaio's scalp, but the stuff leading to county attorneys being disbarred and unraveling a whole mess of conspiracy and prosecutorial misconduct just seems like the thing that should be his death knell.

they would arrest and charge people guilty of nothing but opposing the sheriff politically, and did so for years - to a point of even arresting and charging a judge because a case involving their shenanigans would be before his court, and they didn't think him compliant enough.

i'm not saying this isn't reason enough to hang - just that there is an even bigger, ugly noose sitting right next to it.
 
2012-07-24 10:42:16 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Goodbye, Joe. You're done here.


I don't think he's done yet. He could come out and say "I'm a racist. I hate non-white people, and I will use the power of my office to arrest non-white people until they leave the state", and you would still be able to hear the quietest cricket chirping over the demands of affluent residents demanding his removal.

Civil rights rarely win popularity contests.
 
2012-07-24 10:49:54 PM  
Good. Let the piggie squirm.
 
2012-07-24 11:00:11 PM  
You mean his big birth certificate PowerPoint didn't stop the trial?
 
2012-07-24 11:15:34 PM  

GAT_00: Bloody William: Am I the only one who wouldn't mind seeing Joe Arpaio taking the Budd Dwyer retirement plan?

There's no way this cockbag wouldn't try to take out others. He doesn't even have the decency to off himself.


Did you look up the fact that Budd Dwyer offed himself and only himself before posting this?
 
2012-07-24 11:25:46 PM  
"The fact that that type of work doesn't require any type of uhm you don't have to show an id, uhm, it would be easier, that type of work would be easier for uhm a person in this country illegally to uhm get because they wouldn't have the proper paperwork for other types of employment."

Apparently Arpaio only hires deputies who make him look smart in comparison.
 
2012-07-24 11:38:37 PM  
Arpaio took the stand shortly after 9:30 a.m. in front of a packed courtroom and complained that he was suffering from a touch of the flu.


I understand that being hung over somewhat resembles the flu.
 
2012-07-24 11:44:56 PM  

shanrick: Arpaio took the stand shortly after 9:30 a.m. in front of a packed courtroom and complained that he was suffering from a touch of the flu.


I understand that being hung over somewhat resembles the flu.


I'm here to testify

/"resembles" being the operative word
//doesn't feel quite like that on the inside
///worse, if you've done it properly
 
2012-07-24 11:58:44 PM  

MisterTweak: Civil rights rarely win popularity contests.


Oh, I'm very well aware. The only thing that comforts me is the advent of the internet and 24hr cable news. At least they can expose these people for the true scum they are. It may not be up to his constituents if the DOJ can rip his nuts off. I'm hoping they do because, like you, I have no faith in those types of voters doing the right thing.
 
2012-07-25 12:10:25 AM  
he blamed it on co-author Len Sherman

Sounds like a Jew.
 
2012-07-25 12:13:55 AM  

thomps: Nadie_AZ: He has so much rope, he could dangle from the Empire State Building and touch the ground.

can i suggest we stop giving him so much goddamned rope then and start attempting to get a little tension in the line?


He is kinda fat, I see no reason not to double it up.
 
2012-07-25 01:09:44 AM  
FTFA: "The fact that that type of work doesn't require any type of uhm you don't have to show an id, uhm, it would be easier, that type of work would be easier for uhm a person in this country illegally to uhm get because they wouldn't have the proper paperwork for other types of employment."

movieactors.com


/does not approve

I recently re-watched this movie a month or so ago, and I think it holds up extremely well, especially in the current climate of looking down on brown people being a "socially acceptable" racism. Bigots now have someone they can feel as if they are better than, because they're "only racist against the illegal immigrants, not against all Messicans." And they're illegal.
 
2012-07-25 01:12:14 AM  
As a former Maricopa resident, his department has a for Driving While Brown. Or Black.

I remember being stopped a while back, and the surprise of the officer who realized I was white in an '88 New Yorker. He then grew happier when he realized that there were a couple of brown and black folks in the car, and ran us through a few hoops to prove that we'd just gotten out of work and were headed home. He also asked if I was being held against my will, despite the fact that we were all still wearing our chef's coats...

Apparently, we weren't supposed to mix after work...
 
2012-07-25 01:23:52 AM  
Just another republican that doesn't understand the incredible memory retention of the internet.
 
2012-07-25 01:25:10 AM  

Bloody William: Am I the only one who wouldn't mind seeing Joe Arpaio taking the Budd Dwyer retirement plan?


^^^^THIS^^^^
 
2012-07-25 01:25:30 AM  
Unfortunately, the phrase "Sheriff Joe on trial" is not a factual statement, either.

Yet.
 
2012-07-25 01:26:11 AM  
The sweet thing about this is that everything that comes out in a civil case can be used as evidence (I believe anyway) if he is ever prosecuted criminally. He'd have been better off settling out of court IMHO. If I'm wrong, maybe one of our GED lawyers can tell me differently.
 
2012-07-25 01:26:55 AM  
Must be something in the water from making factual statements. First Senator Kyl can't keep straight how much business Planned Parenthood does with abortions. Now the big cheese can't remember making racist comments.
 
2012-07-25 01:28:59 AM  
Good. I hope the court throws that SOB in jail forever.
 
2012-07-25 01:31:30 AM  
He's not a racist! He just judges people based on the color of their skin, and deems certain colors worth a bit more judging than others.

It's totally different!
 
2012-07-25 01:31:50 AM  

hubiestubert: As a former Maricopa resident, his department has a for Driving While Brown. Or Black.

I remember being stopped a while back, and the surprise of the officer who realized I was white in an '88 New Yorker. He then grew happier when he realized that there were a couple of brown and black folks in the car, and ran us through a few hoops to prove that we'd just gotten out of work and were headed home. He also asked if I was being held against my will, despite the fact that we were all still wearing our chef's coats...

Apparently, we weren't supposed to mix after work...


Don't fraternize with the help. You just encourage them to chase white women and learn to read.
 
2012-07-25 01:32:28 AM  

ox45tallboy: FTFA: "The fact that that type of work doesn't require any type of uhm you don't have to show an id, uhm, it would be easier, that type of work would be easier for uhm a person in this country illegally to uhm get because they wouldn't have the proper paperwork for other types of employment."

[movieactors.com image 533x363]

/does not approve

I recently re-watched this movie a month or so ago, and I think it holds up extremely well, especially in the current climate of looking down on brown people being a "socially acceptable" racism. Bigots now have someone they can feel as if they are better than, because they're "only racist against the illegal immigrants, not against all Messicans." And they're illegal.


And don't forget it contains one of the finest drunk actors of all time -- JMV.
 
2012-07-25 01:33:33 AM  

Tyrano Soros: Just another republican that doesn't understand the incredible memory retention of the internet.


Indeed


BTW, here's FOX's headline
Sheriff Arpaio takes the stand in civil-rights case



http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ioASlOLSz10/T-TmHh8V1wI/AAAAAAAAAZw/RfQlIUQ L cf8/s1600/Implied-Facepalm.jpg
 
2012-07-25 01:35:53 AM  
One day Arpaio's gonna be arrested after shooting up a McDonalds because there were too many Mexicans there.

And the media will be shocked at this completely unexpected isolated incident.
 
2012-07-25 01:37:35 AM  
Sheriff Joe on trial: I do not racially profile. DOJ: Here are your own words saying you racially profile. Sheriff Joe: Those were not meant to be factual statements

Your Honor, I HAD to shoot him in order to save his life. but he flinched and died. oh well.
 
2012-07-25 01:39:37 AM  
Why isn't this a criminal trial? He should die in solitary confinement.
 
2012-07-25 01:42:14 AM  

thomps: Nadie_AZ: He has so much rope, he could dangle from the Empire State Building and touch the ground.

can i suggest we stop giving him so much goddamned rope then and start attempting to get a little tension in the line?


Why? Instead of tightening the thing, give him a heavy weight and throw his ass into the Pacific. It'd be interesting to fish with the world's biggest worm.
 
2012-07-25 01:48:27 AM  
Wow, nobody in here yet to defend him and claim he is doing gods work?
 
2012-07-25 01:52:21 AM  
C'mon, give the guy a break. He's just doing God's work.
 
2012-07-25 01:55:18 AM  
Somebody over at AZ Central dot com should take these "notes" by JJ Hensley and use them to write an article.
 
2012-07-25 01:55:44 AM  

Burn_The_Plows: And don't forget it contains one of the finest drunk actors of all time -- JMV.


And Bruce Lee's son. Really.

www.wearysloth.com
"Waas Sappening!"
 
2012-07-25 01:57:57 AM  

Brainsick: Tyrano Soros: Just another republican that doesn't understand the incredible memory retention of the internet.

Indeed


BTW, here's FOX's headline
Sheriff Arpaio takes the stand in civil-rights case



http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ioASlOLSz10/T-TmHh8V1wI/AAAAAAAAAZw/RfQlIUQ L cf8/s1600/Implied-Facepalm.jpg


Wait a second here... Fox's headline sounds more neutral than the AZ central one.

Fox's article actually sounds like the potential for violations of the Eighth. Not the pink part, or the only Disney channel parts, but the combination of overcrowding and no porn make for a dangerous combination.
 
2012-07-25 01:59:16 AM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: He's not a racist! He just judges people based on the color of their skin, and deems certain colors worth a bit more judging than others.

It's totally different!


So what do you think about the current culture of "anti-illegal-immigration" as a form of "socially acceptable" racism? It seems that the highest proportion of anti-immigration sentiment is in historically racist areas such as Alabama, Georgia, and Texas, even though California has just as many, if not more "illegal" immigrants.
 
2012-07-25 02:01:24 AM  

Lorelle: I'm just as brown as the other Messicans.

*on my mother's side


I'm black.

*from the waist down.
 
2012-07-25 02:04:22 AM  
So why does he have a job? Do his superiors fear him or something?
 
2012-07-25 02:05:25 AM  

Benni K Rok: Wait a second here... Fox's headline sounds more neutral than the AZ central one.

Fox's article actually sounds like the potential for violations of the Eighth. Not the pink part, or the only Disney channel parts, but the combination of overcrowding and no porn make for a dangerous combination.


FTFFoxA:"He banned Playboy and sexually explicit magazines and got rid of all entertainment TV programming other than news and the Disney Channel."

I can just see the inmate fights now.

"Mother F*cker, you better shut your goddamned mouth while iCarly is on!"
"It's a f*ckin' rerun! we just saw this episode on Saturday!"
"I don't give a f*ck, it's the one with spaghetti tacos! I like this episode!"
"F*ck spaghetti tacos!"
"No, f*ck you!"

/fight ensues
 
2012-07-25 02:05:31 AM  

ox45tallboy: "Waas Sappening!"


i69.photobucket.com

Just wanted to say I thoroughly enjoyed the epic Norquist/Bachmann thread.


/lake
//big lake
 
2012-07-25 02:05:52 AM  

ox45tallboy: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: He's not a racist! He just judges people based on the color of their skin, and deems certain colors worth a bit more judging than others.

It's totally different!

So what do you think about the current culture of "anti-illegal-immigration" as a form of "socially acceptable" racism? It seems that the highest proportion of anti-immigration sentiment is in historically racist areas such as Alabama, Georgia, and Texas, even though California has just as many, if not more "illegal" immigrants.


My snarky answer: Well, as long as you only hate the illegal ones, then I suppose it's all right. Personally, I only burn crosses on the lawns of decedents of field slaves. House slaves are cool, and deserve nothing done to their kin.

My non snarky answer: They're delusional if they think that it's easy to spot illegal immigrants just by looking at them. I understand that some people aren't playing by the rules, but this country was settled by people who left crappy conditions for something better. My German ancestors came over on the boat in the 1850s. I can't blame anyone else for doing what my family did 150 years ago.
 
2012-07-25 02:06:59 AM  

dickfreckle: Lorelle: I'm just as brown as the other Messicans.

*on my mother's side

I'm black.

*from the waist down.


Yeah, my penis can't hold a job either.

/Ducks
 
2012-07-25 02:07:40 AM  

Alphax: So why does he have a job? Do his superiors fear him or something?


Because the racist in his district keep electing him sheriff.
 
2012-07-25 02:08:37 AM  

Alphax: So why does he have a job? Do his superiors fear him or something?


No, he keeps getting elected by a bunch of racist f*cks that positively love the fact is he is openly racist, so they don't have to be.

And he doesn't have superiors.

immigrationimpact.com
"I AM THE LAW!"
 
2012-07-25 02:11:11 AM  
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-07-25 02:12:16 AM  

dickfreckle: Just wanted to say I thoroughly enjoyed the epic Norquist/Bachmann thread.


I'm glad you did. I've gotten accused of "monopolizing the thread" in the past, so I tried picking one that wasn't green this time and left it up to the mods. I'll try doing the same again in the future; I don't want to interfere with the otherwise civil discourse we enjoy here.
 
2012-07-25 02:18:35 AM  
May he find misfortune wherever he goes. I wouldn't piss on Sheriff Joe to put out a fire.

...and when he does eventually kick the bucket and go to his final rest, may the souls of the damned carry him home to Hell.
 
2012-07-25 02:23:06 AM  

Lorelle: Nadie_AZ: Arpaio was forced by Young to back off from a couple of statements in the book, including one in which he wrote that Mexicans don't come to the United States with the same hopes and dreams as people from other countries.. In another part of the book, Young pointed out, Arpaio wrote that second- and third-generation Mexican-Americans were not part of the American "mainstream."

Wait a minute...you mean to tell me that when I drove through AZ a few months ago, I had no reason to be afraid of being harassed for being brown, because Arpaio and his goons would instantly know that I'm 4th gen*?!?

I'm just as brown as the other Messicans.

*on my mother's side


You're family has been here longer than mine (I'm 2nd gen) but I'm white and any folks in my family with accents have suppressed them or passed on so I don't have anything to worry about. That kind of sucks.

ongbok: Alphax: So why does he have a job? Do his superiors fear him or something?

Because the racist in his district keep electing him sheriff.


My SO's snowbird Fox News watching grandparents totally did. Sigh. I've gotten pretty good at acknowledging and ignoring when that sort of thing comes up...
 
2012-07-25 02:33:25 AM  

ox45tallboy: FTFFoxA:"He banned Playboy and sexually explicit magazines and got rid of all entertainment TV programming other than news and the Disney Channel."

I can just see the inmate fights now.

"Mother F*cker, you better shut your goddamned mouth while iCarly is on!"
"It's a f*ckin' rerun! we just saw this episode on Saturday!"
"I don't give a f*ck, it's the one with spaghetti tacos! I like this episode!"
"F*ck spaghetti tacos!"
"No, f*ck you!"

/fight ensues


Um, actually, that's Nickelodeon.
 
2012-07-25 02:35:04 AM  
I mean, realistically?

This guy should be forced into early retirement--without a pension.
 
2012-07-25 02:39:19 AM  
TFA: "The fact that that type of work doesn't require any type of uhm you don't have to show an id, uhm, it would be easier, that type of work would be easier for uhm a person in this country illegally to uhm get because they wouldn't have the proper paperwork for other types of employment."


As one of the liberal media elite, I have to point out that no actual journalist prints vocalized pauses (uhm). Though I think everyone knows that. I have to assume they did it here to make him sound stupid.
 
2012-07-25 02:40:44 AM  

BMulligan: Um, actually, that's Nickelodeon.


I'm actually proud to not have known that. YMMV.
 
2012-07-25 02:42:18 AM  
Brooooowwwwwwwn peeeeeooooppppplllllllleeeeeeee suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
 
2012-07-25 02:45:07 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2012-07-25 02:45:28 AM  

ox45tallboy: BMulligan: Um, actually, that's Nickelodeon.

I'm actually proud to not have known that. YMMV.


You'll notice I used the small type, signifying shame.
 
2012-07-25 02:45:58 AM  

LiberalWeenie: As one of the liberal media elite, I have to point out that no actual journalist prints vocalized pauses (uhm). Though I think everyone knows that. I have to assume they did it here to make him sound stupid.


And who the hell spells it "umh"? Whatever happened to "um"?

Here's an interesting thread regarding a court reporter deciding whether or not to include "um"s in the Court transcript.

/btw, my Firefox spellcheck underlines "umh" but not "um". Of course, it also underlines "spellcheck", so...
 
2012-07-25 02:47:26 AM  

Sock Ruh Tease: [i.imgur.com image 327x284]


Who exactly do they wish to "Take Our Country Back" from?
 
2012-07-25 02:48:08 AM  

Alphax: So why does he have a job? Do his superiors fear him or something?


Because blue haired timid mice in Minnesota get to vote s long as they spend either 3 or 4 months a year in the state. This means that all of the Snowbirds who hear about the big scary city and Joe's "crusade" think he's doing a good job because when they truck into Mesa in their Winnebagos, they don't get mugged at the border. Of course they're too stupid to understand how a big city works, or they would know that one part of town can be a hellhole with daily shootings, while others are pure old fart nirvana.

Trust me, despite Joe's "crusade", there were still gunshots nightly in the neighborhoods I lived in.

And let's ask the residents of El Mirage how good of a job he's doing. Since he's not racist, I'm sure his department was right on top of those 400+ sex crimes that were reported, amirite?
 
2012-07-25 02:50:39 AM  

ox45tallboy: Sock Ruh Tease: [i.imgur.com image 327x284]

Who exactly do they wish to "Take Our Country Back" from?


The two thirds of Americans that aren't functionally retarded.
 
2012-07-25 02:53:06 AM  

Mikey1969: Alphax: So why does he have a job? Do his superiors fear him or something?

Because blue haired timid mice in Minnesota get to vote s long as they spend either 3 or 4 months a year in the state. This means that all of the Snowbirds who hear about the big scary city and Joe's "crusade" think he's doing a good job because when they truck into Mesa in their Winnebagos, they don't get mugged at the border. Of course they're too stupid to understand how a big city works, or they would know that one part of town can be a hellhole with daily shootings, while others are pure old fart nirvana.

Trust me, despite Joe's "crusade", there were still gunshots nightly in the neighborhoods I lived in.

And let's ask the residents of El Mirage how good of a job he's doing. Since he's not racist, I'm sure his department was right on top of those 400+ sex crimes that were reported, amirite?


What is "fark no," Alex?
 
2012-07-25 02:53:18 AM  

ox45tallboy: Sock Ruh Tease: [i.imgur.com image 327x284]

Who exactly do they wish to "Take Our Country Back" from?


You know who.

i.imgur.com
 
2012-07-25 02:58:08 AM  

SN1987a goes boom: The two thirds of Americans that aren't functionally retarded.


You're a bit optimistic, aren't you? I mean, I hope it's that high, but I'm currently at my sister's house in Alabama, two counties away from the "Christian Cross Lighting Ceremony" a couple of weeks ago. I can't say I've encountered that good of a percentage lately.
 
2012-07-25 03:00:26 AM  

Bloody William: Am I the only one who wouldn't mind seeing Joe Arpaio taking the Budd Dwyer retirement plan?


I'm more in favor of him being enrolled in the Jeffrey Dahmer early-release program.

periodictable.com
 
2012-07-25 03:01:34 AM  
It's like the GOP scoured the country for a real-life version of Dirty Lyle from "Convoy" and made him a farking celebrity.
 
2012-07-25 03:01:43 AM  

ox45tallboy: SN1987a goes boom: The two thirds of Americans that aren't functionally retarded.

You're a bit optimistic, aren't you? I mean, I hope it's that high, but I'm currently at my sister's house in Alabama, two counties away from the "Christian Cross Lighting Ceremony" a couple of weeks ago. I can't say I've encountered that good of a percentage lately.


I hope that's not a euphamism for a cross burning..
 
2012-07-25 03:06:08 AM  
"Crucify him." ~ Thulsa Doom
 
2012-07-25 03:06:28 AM  

Alphax: ox45tallboy: SN1987a goes boom: The two thirds of Americans that aren't functionally retarded.

You're a bit optimistic, aren't you? I mean, I hope it's that high, but I'm currently at my sister's house in Alabama, two counties away from the "Christian Cross Lighting Ceremony" a couple of weeks ago. I can't say I've encountered that good of a percentage lately.

I hope that's not a euphamism for a cross burning..


Sorry to shatter that hope of yours, but yes.

The KKK website has a very long excuse about it here, but if you prefer not to go to the KKK website, it can be summarized thusly: "The lamestream MSM media calls our cross lightings cross burnings, because they like blacks and Jews - but really, the fire represents cleansing the land of evil. No, really, 'evil', you know what we mean by that right, wink wink nudge nudge. Stop looking at us like that!"
 
2012-07-25 03:15:50 AM  

ox45tallboy: Benni K Rok: Wait a second here... Fox's headline sounds more neutral than the AZ central one.

Fox's article actually sounds like the potential for violations of the Eighth. Not the pink part, or the only Disney channel parts, but the combination of overcrowding and no porn make for a dangerous combination.

FTFFoxA:"He banned Playboy and sexually explicit magazines and got rid of all entertainment TV programming other than news and the Disney Channel."

I can just see the inmate fights now.

"Mother F*cker, you better shut your goddamned mouth while iCarly is on!"
"It's a f*ckin' rerun! we just saw this episode on Saturday!"
"I don't give a f*ck, it's the one with spaghetti tacos! I like this episode!"
"F*ck spaghetti tacos!"
"No, f*ck you!"

/fight ensues


close, when they took the TV out of tent city it was because of fights between watching soccer and anything else
 
2012-07-25 03:21:43 AM  

Alphax: I hope that's not a euphamism for a cross burning..


Made the main page of Fark July 5.

AL Pastor who organized "Whites only Christian conference" says the highlight of his event is not a horribly racist cross burning, but merely a tradtional sacred Christian "cross lighting" ceremony

But hey, at least these guys hate all minorities equally, not just the Messicans. They're equal opportunity bigots.
 
2012-07-25 03:23:41 AM  

fark'emfeed'emfish: close, when they took the TV out of tent city it was because of fights between watching soccer and anything else


Jeez, I would probably start a fight if forced to watch a soccer game, if only so something would actually happen.
 
2012-07-25 03:32:25 AM  
There's a good documentary about what's been going on in Arizona, free to watch on Youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMfYNqJgO8Y

/Not a Rick Roll
 
2012-07-25 03:38:20 AM  

ox45tallboy: Alphax: I hope that's not a euphamism for a cross burning..

Made the main page of Fark July 5.

AL Pastor who organized "Whites only Christian conference" says the highlight of his event is not a horribly racist cross burning, but merely a tradtional sacred Christian "cross lighting" ceremony

But hey, at least these guys hate all minorities equally, not just the Messicans. They're equal opportunity bigots.


I miss a lot of Main Page stuff. Mostly look at Politics and Entertainment.
 
2012-07-25 03:42:50 AM  
<i>Arpaio consistently deflected Young's questions about the impact questionable constituent letters have on the sheriff's immigration sweeps. Arpaio repeatedly said he delegates those decisions.

Similarly, Arpaio said some of the questionable material in his autobiography was written by a co-author, leaving the sheriff unable to explain some of his own statements.</i>

So Sheriff Joe isn't a racist asshole he just works with them?

I wish the ACLU well with this stuff but in truth I agree with an earlier poster that Joe has way nastier skeletons in his closet in the form of his abuse of office to silence political opponents.

Either way this guy's comeuppance cannot come too soon.
 
2012-07-25 03:48:41 AM  

ox45tallboy: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: He's not a racist! He just judges people based on the color of their skin, and deems certain colors worth a bit more judging than others.

It's totally different!

So what do you think about the current culture of "anti-illegal-immigration" as a form of "socially acceptable" racism? It seems that the highest proportion of anti-immigration sentiment is in historically racist areas such as Alabama, Georgia, and Texas, even though California has just as many, if not more "illegal" immigrants.


A few thoughts about California. First off, we have a long proud (sigh) history of hating on the Mexicans. In fact, our acts of overt racism go back much farther than California's inductance into the union. Back in the day, we decided to just outright steal land (the rancheros) from the Mexicans and Mestizo (mixed Mexican and native american (or white) who had been living here since forever. The deal was that a white man could bring a sheriff out to a property and say, this is mine. Consequently when the rightful owner couldn't produce a deed proclaiming his ownership of the ranchero, the sheriff would evict the non-white tenant and hand over the land, house and everything else to the white guy making the claim. He'd make him a deed too. It was an emmence period of land snatching and transference of wealth from the non-white residents to the white new-comers.1
However, how we treated the Mexicans back in the day can't even hold a candle to how we treated the Chinese in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. We imported them and enslaved them to build the trans-continental railroads and THEN prevented them from bringing over their families and friends via the Chinese exclusion act of 1882. This act was one of the most significant restrictions of free immigration on our history and wasn't repealed until ninteen farking fourty three. In the interim it was essentially legal to treat the Chinese however horrifically as you wanted because they were yellow. Beatings, slavery, wage-rape, it was all fair game and they had no legal recourse. Essentially just to survive they huddled into ethnic ghettos (and I'm using this term in the old-timey way meaning ethnic enclaves where folks came together for their own survival, not in the more modern way meaning an area of depressed socio-economic prospect)

My point being that The Mexicans have had it bad in California, and for a very long time, but the Chinese had it worse. California has a very nasty history as far as treating non-whites goes.

I'd also like to point out that their is no exaggeration, nor outright bullshiattery in what I'm saying. I'm just stating sad, historical, sociological truths. =(

1 read Thomas Almaguer's Racial Fault lines for more information.

ox45tallboy: ; I don't want to interfere with the otherwise civil discourse we enjoy here.



We have *WHAT* now? =P Since when?
 
2012-07-25 03:52:11 AM  

ox45tallboy: I recently re-watched this movie a month or so ago, and I think it holds up extremely well, especially in the current climate of looking down on brown people being a "socially acceptable" racism.


It's one of my favorite movies, mainly because I relate too well to Rudy. I love the scene in which he teaches the immigrants how to act like Este Los homies. :)

StreetlightInTheGhetto: You're family has been here longer than mine (I'm 2nd gen) but I'm white and any folks in my family with accents have suppressed them or passed on so I don't have anything to worry about. That kind of sucks.


Same goes for my family. We have the reverse problem: most of us are brown, speak very little or no Spanish, and occasionally have to deal with shiat from down-home Messicans who call us pochos or coconuts (like Rudy in Born In East L.A.), and from non-Messicans who think we know Spanish but pretend not to speak it because we're ashamed of it. I have a slight Valley Girl accent, and my formal Spanish sucks. That doesn't matter to people like Arpaio, though, because all they see is a brown person who might be here illegally.

I spent one night in Willcox, AZ back in April. In the morning I went to the local Safeway, and never saw so many white-bearded men in one place in all my life. Didn't see a single brown person in the store, either. I asked Checkout Dude (a middle-aged white guy) for directions to a local museum, and I could tell that he was surprised that I didn't have a Spanish accent. Dude actually took the time to draw a little map for me, which I appreciated.

It's a beautiful state, and despite feeling somewhat uncomfortable while traveling through it, I would love to visit it again, especially the San Carlos Apache reservation, where my paternal grandmother was born back when AZ was still a territory.
 
2012-07-25 03:56:11 AM  
On a related note, thank Biki (the bike god) that Gato-negro and every other incarnation of animal-color is gone.
It's a much nicer place with out him, granted he's probably still here as someone else. But that guy sucked.

\So did Winterwhile
\\Gary could be amusing at times.
\\\Phil sucked.
\\\\Praise Biki!
 
2012-07-25 03:59:34 AM  

Mikey1969: Alphax: So why does he have a job? Do his superiors fear him or something?

Because blue haired timid mice in Minnesota get to vote s long as they spend either 3 or 4 months a year in the state. This means that all of the Snowbirds who hear about the big scary city and Joe's "crusade" think he's doing a good job because when they truck into Mesa in their Winnebagos, they don't get mugged at the border. Of course they're too stupid to understand how a big city works, or they would know that one part of town can be a hellhole with daily shootings, while others are pure old fart nirvana.

Trust me, despite Joe's "crusade", there were still gunshots nightly in the neighborhoods I lived in.

And let's ask the residents of El Mirage how good of a job he's doing. Since he's not racist, I'm sure his department was right on top of those 400+ sex crimes that were reported, amirite?


They also don't understand that he's made crime *worse* and costed them a boatload of money while he was at it. If, god forbid, they actually looked at numbers instead of listening to slick, lying speeches they'd kick his ass to the curb in a heartbeat. But if the way my dad votes is any indication, that will never happen.
 
2012-07-25 04:09:20 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: My point being that The Mexicans have had it bad in California, and for a very long time, but the Chinese had it worse. California has a very nasty history as far as treating non-whites goes.


I don't disagree with your premise at all; the history of California (as well as much of America) has definitely been one of racism and xenophobia (not to be confused with Xenuphobia, the fear of Scientologists). But wouldn't you say that California is now one of the most accepting states in the country, the recent vote on Prop 8 notwithstanding (it was far, far closer of a vote than other states passing similar legislation or Constitutional Amendments). I'm sure much of it could be attributed to California's increasing ethnic diversity, in which there is no longer an ethnic majority at all, but I've known plenty of racist bigots who are in the ethnic minority of their area.

I guess what I'm saying is that California nowadays seems far less racist on the whole than many other states (although undoubtedly some enclaves exist, just as anywhere else). Do you think that it is inherent to the actual diversity there (fewer ethnic majority = fewer racists) or because the white folk ain't all that racist no more? Or is my perception skewed from being in the South for too long? (Although honestly, I've never seen racism in the South to the point I saw it in Salt Lake City, Utah - F*ck Mormons).

And do you see the anti-Hispanic racism evident in the South to be prevalent in the same areas, with the same people, as the anti-Black racism of 50 years ago? (and in some cases, yesterday, only it seems people are nowadays much more vocal about anti-Hispanic sentiment than anti-Black sentiment.)
 
2012-07-25 04:11:08 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: They also don't understand that he's made crime *worse* and costed them a boatload of money while he was at it. If, god forbid, they actually looked at numbers instead of listening to slick, lying speeches they'd kick his ass to the curb in a heartbeat. But if the way my dad votes is any indication, that will never happen.


To them, it's worth every dime to see the brown people get put in their place.
 
2012-07-25 04:12:42 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: nd costed them a boatload of money while he was at it.



The actions of Thomas and Arpaio against the Board of Supervisors, judges and others have cost county taxpayers at least $10.6 million, mostly in legal bills, according to a Republic analysis. A legal settlement reportedly imminent with Supervisor Mary Rose Wilcox, who was targeted by some of their activities, could raise that figure by $1 million, The Republic has learned. - link


and that's just the cost of the 'arrest your political opponents' boss hogg impersonation.
 
2012-07-25 04:15:53 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: ox45tallboy: ; I don't want to interfere with the otherwise civil discourse we enjoy here.


We have *WHAT* now? =P Since when?


All snark aside, I have yet to see a website in which one's ideas are open to rational debate as much as I have on Fark. While there seems to be a consensus of Left-wing Libertarianism across the plurality of regular posters, all viewpoints are welcome as long as they can be rationally justified. And

( . )( . ) bewbz.
 
2012-07-25 04:20:04 AM  

ox45tallboy: Uchiha_Cycliste: ox45tallboy: ; I don't want to interfere with the otherwise civil discourse we enjoy here.


We have *WHAT* now? =P Since when?

All snark aside, I have yet to see a website in which one's ideas are open to rational debate as much as I have on Fark. While there seems to be a consensus of Left-wing Libertarianism across the plurality of regular posters, all viewpoints are welcome as long as they can be rationally justified. And

( . )( . ) bewbz.


All right, I'll de-snark grant you all that. And some boobs too.
www.igeekgaming.com
 
2012-07-25 04:30:37 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: Mikey1969: Alphax: So why does he have a job? Do his superiors fear him or something?

Because blue haired timid mice in Minnesota get to vote s long as they spend either 3 or 4 months a year in the state. This means that all of the Snowbirds who hear about the big scary city and Joe's "crusade" think he's doing a good job because when they truck into Mesa in their Winnebagos, they don't get mugged at the border. Of course they're too stupid to understand how a big city works, or they would know that one part of town can be a hellhole with daily shootings, while others are pure old fart nirvana.

Trust me, despite Joe's "crusade", there were still gunshots nightly in the neighborhoods I lived in.

And let's ask the residents of El Mirage how good of a job he's doing. Since he's not racist, I'm sure his department was right on top of those 400+ sex crimes that were reported, amirite?

They also don't understand that he's made crime *worse* and costed them a boatload of money while he was at it. If, god forbid, they actually looked at numbers instead of listening to slick, lying speeches they'd kick his ass to the curb in a heartbeat. But if the way my dad votes is any indication, that will never happen.


I would disown my parents if they voted for someone like Arpaio. That's the line. I'll respect your right to vote for whomever you wish to vote for so long as it isn't someone as overtly racist as Arpaio. Voting for someone like that, who is a fascist to boot, is just like voting for an actual member of the Nazi party. You can't say you didn't know.

/good thing my family is all liberal.
//except my gun nut, single-issue voter brother.
///he didn't realize that the Democrats won't start cracking down on guns, no matter what a certain Congressional minority leader's personal opinions are.
////just like the Democrats would never actually try to sell Texas, Oklahoma and Arizona back to Mexico, no matter how much they would probably like to...
 
2012-07-25 04:38:42 AM  

twat_waffle: Uchiha_Cycliste: Mikey1969: Alphax: So why does he have a job? Do his superiors fear him or something?

Because blue haired timid mice in Minnesota get to vote s long as they spend either 3 or 4 months a year in the state. This means that all of the Snowbirds who hear about the big scary city and Joe's "crusade" think he's doing a good job because when they truck into Mesa in their Winnebagos, they don't get mugged at the border. Of course they're too stupid to understand how a big city works, or they would know that one part of town can be a hellhole with daily shootings, while others are pure old fart nirvana.

Trust me, despite Joe's "crusade", there were still gunshots nightly in the neighborhoods I lived in.

And let's ask the residents of El Mirage how good of a job he's doing. Since he's not racist, I'm sure his department was right on top of those 400+ sex crimes that were reported, amirite?

They also don't understand that he's made crime *worse* and costed them a boatload of money while he was at it. If, god forbid, they actually looked at numbers instead of listening to slick, lying speeches they'd kick his ass to the curb in a heartbeat. But if the way my dad votes is any indication, that will never happen.

I would disown my parents if they voted for someone like Arpaio. That's the line. I'll respect your right to vote for whomever you wish to vote for so long as it isn't someone as overtly racist as Arpaio. Voting for someone like that, who is a fascist to boot, is just like voting for an actual member of the Nazi party. You can't say you didn't know.

/good thing my family is all liberal.
//except my gun nut, single-issue voter brother.
///he didn't realize that the Democrats won't start cracking down on guns, no matter what a certain Congressional minority leader's personal opinions are.
////just like the Democrats would never actually try to sell Texas, Oklahoma and Arizona back to Mexico, no matter how much they would probably like to...


Oklahoma should probably be given back to the Indians. Even though I hate to think why they would want that tornado bait hellhole.
 
2012-07-25 04:43:09 AM  

ox45tallboy: Uchiha_Cycliste: My point being that The Mexicans have had it bad in California, and for a very long time, but the Chinese had it worse. California has a very nasty history as far as treating non-whites goes.

I don't disagree with your premise at all; the history of California (as well as much of America) has definitely been one of racism and xenophobia (not to be confused with Xenuphobia, the fear of Scientologists). But wouldn't you say that California is now one of the most accepting states in the country, the recent vote on Prop 8 notwithstanding (it was far, far closer of a vote than other states passing similar legislation or Constitutional Amendments). I'm sure much of it could be attributed to California's increasing ethnic diversity, in which there is no longer an ethnic majority at all, but I've known plenty of racist bigots who are in the ethnic minority of their area.

I guess what I'm saying is that California nowadays seems far less racist on the whole than many other states (although undoubtedly some enclaves exist, just as anywhere else). Do you think that it is inherent to the actual diversity there (fewer ethnic majority = fewer racists) or because the white folk ain't all that racist no more? Or is my perception skewed from being in the South for too long? (Although honestly, I've never seen racism in the South to the point I saw it in Salt Lake City, Utah - F*ck Mormons).

And do you see the anti-Hispanic racism evident in the South to be prevalent in the same areas, with the same people, as the anti-Black racism of 50 years ago? (and in some cases, yesterday, only it seems people are nowadays much more vocal about anti-Hispanic sentiment than anti-Black sentiment.)


I think it's quit fallacious to think of California as one monolithic population. I feel it's quite rightly divided into the south, north coast, central (N/S) and central (valley) and those areas are all vastly different. I feel the North and central/north (bay area) are MUCH more tolerant, accepting, diverse and all around nicer (personality wise). However, the central valley is nothing like the bay area, it's solidly red (politically) and has much more of a feel of the southern states as far as tolerance and racism go. Where there is crime and drugs, somehow it's all blamed on blacks and Mexicans (whether residential brown people, or those from south of the border).
Now coastal Southern California is interesting. It's purple politically, but there is heavy racism there, though it's not as overt as it is in the South. The racism while only whispered in public they are reinforced by entire pan-flutes of dog whistles that can be heard frequently.

Behind closed doors* the Republican minorities there are very vocal about their disdain of Mexicans. They are said to be lazy, dirty, un-american, leeches of society who simply drop anchor-babies and live off of welfare; stealing money from tax payers so that they can livve lives of lazy ill-gotten luxury. They frequently make statements comparing and contrasting the Asian model minority myth to the Mexicans and proclaiming that Mexicans are poor because they are lazy, stupid and simply don't even try. They earnestly believe that Mexicans have all the same opportunities as everyone else and their inability to achieve socio-economic upward mobility is simply because they don't even try. They will constantly repeat the talking points of the day, and toe the GOP line all the while expressing disdain for Fox News and claiming that they are politically independents and that their views are their own, cultivated through what they witness, and never related to what the GOP says. Their is absolutely no sense of community and an outright bizarre belief that any area that isn'y 90% rich and white is dangerous and riddled with crime.

Part of this stems from a heavy population of Post WWII armed forces service members who settled in CA back in teh 60s and 70s and past on their world view whole-sale to their children. Who never took it upon themselves to question the lies they were raised to believe, regardless of any UC education they may have received. Even the engineers. This familial continuation of subtle racism has even made it's way from not only my grandparents to my father and aunts and uncles, but even to some of my cousins; who again were UC educated engineers.

It's extremely frustrating. And while I have to grant you that the racism is no where nearly as overt as it is in Texas, Arizona and the deep south. Central CA and So-cal are no where near as tolerant of non-whites as common-sense and popular culture would have you believe.

Wow, I rambled much more than I intended... sorry.

\*my father and uncles are all So-cal Republicans. I get to hear a lot that I'd rather not hear, much less believe that my relatives are saying.
 
2012-07-25 04:46:54 AM  

twat_waffle: Uchiha_Cycliste: Mikey1969: Alphax: So why does he have a job? Do his superiors fear him or something?

Because blue haired timid mice in Minnesota get to vote s long as they spend either 3 or 4 months a year in the state. This means that all of the Snowbirds who hear about the big scary city and Joe's "crusade" think he's doing a good job because when they truck into Mesa in their Winnebagos, they don't get mugged at the border. Of course they're too stupid to understand how a big city works, or they would know that one part of town can be a hellhole with daily shootings, while others are pure old fart nirvana.

Trust me, despite Joe's "crusade", there were still gunshots nightly in the neighborhoods I lived in.

And let's ask the residents of El Mirage how good of a job he's doing. Since he's not racist, I'm sure his department was right on top of those 400+ sex crimes that were reported, amirite?

They also don't understand that he's made crime *worse* and costed them a boatload of money while he was at it. If, god forbid, they actually looked at numbers instead of listening to slick, lying speeches they'd kick his ass to the curb in a heartbeat. But if the way my dad votes is any indication, that will never happen.

I would disown my parents if they voted for someone like Arpaio. That's the line. I'll respect your right to vote for whomever you wish to vote for so long as it isn't someone as overtly racist as Arpaio. Voting for someone like that, who is a fascist to boot, is just like voting for an actual member of the Nazi party. You can't say you didn't know.

/good thing my family is all liberal.
//except my gun nut, single-issue voter brother.
///he didn't realize that the Democrats won't start cracking down on guns, no matter what a certain Congressional minority leader's personal opinions are.
////just like the Democrats would never actually try to sell Texas, Oklahoma and Arizona back to Mexico, no matter how much they would probably like to...


My dad is a software engineer, educated at UCI. A VERY smart man, in many ways. Besides his salaried employment, he also owns his own business as a SW/FW sensor consultant/contractor. He is also a "Independent" (read GOP), still a Catholic, and would have voted for George W Bush for a third term. He HATES Obama, and is terrified of Obama being assassinated, not because of how horrible that act would be, but because he believes that his assassination would martyr him the same way he says JFK was, and that the man doesn't deserve that sort of long term reverence, respect or legacy.

It's absolutely disgusting.
 
2012-07-25 04:48:47 AM  
Hey guys, after I finish my cigarette, I need to try to get to bed (as I must wake up in 4 hours to get to work around 7). I very much want to continue this conversation tomorrow, but if and when I go silent, be aware that I'm not running away, I'm merely trying to sleep.
 
2012-07-25 04:52:34 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: Hey guys, after I finish my cigarette, I need to try to get to bed (as I must wake up in 4 hours to get to work around 7). I very much want to continue this conversation tomorrow, but if and when I go silent, be aware that I'm not running away, I'm merely trying to sleep.


Good luck with that.. this is my first night back on the 3rd shift, after a week of vacation.. I got about 3 hours sleep in the late afternoon..
 
2012-07-25 04:53:29 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: Wow, I rambled much more than I intended... sorry.


No, I think you expressed a good sentiment - it's dangerous to lump people together in one's thinking, especially in a state as diverse as California. (Why do they seem to love Republican Governors but Democratic Presidents?)

I always like to hear the thoughts of those with more direct experience than I myself possess, especially if those thoughts conflict with my own preconceived notions.

So any Arizona Farkers want to explain Sheriff Joe?
 
2012-07-25 04:56:50 AM  
My mom though, she's awesome and always has been. I'm certain that part of it was her pitiful upbringing and essentially raising herself. Part of it was her tenure at LA High School, when back in the day she was one of only a hand full of white kids in her high school. Finally, much of her understanding and tolerance stems from her first marriage to a Japanese man, and subsequently raising her half Japanese son (my much older half brother). With respect to these topics and themes that we are discussing She is almost the polar opposite of my father.

In my youth I was very obviously becoming my father's son. But I realized his influences were downright hateful, if not outright fraudulent when I started taking a number of Sociology classes at Berkeley that revolved around racial relations in the US - Crime, control and deviance - and race and ethnicity. Upon realizing that all of the lessons of my youth were built upon a shaky foundation I spent years working at not being like my dad. And though we butt heads quite a bit these days, I can hold my head high knowing that I am much like my mom, and very little like my dad.
 
2012-07-25 04:59:44 AM  
I always like to read the name of a personal friend on the byline of an article coming down on Sheriff Joe. Makes me proud.
 
2012-07-25 05:00:00 AM  

ox45tallboy:

So any Arizona Farkers want to explain Sheriff Joe?


He drives really slow in the ultra-fast lane,
While people behind me are going insane.
He's an asshole (He's an asshole, what an asshole)
He's an asshole (He's an asshole, such an asshole)

He uses public toilets and piss on the seat,
He walks around in the summertime saying "How about this heat?"
He's an asshole (He's an asshole, what an asshole)
He's an asshole (He's the world's biggest asshole)

Sometimes He parks in handicapped spaces,
While handicapped people make handicapped faces.
He's an asshole (He's an asshole, what an asshole)
He's an asshole (He's a real farking asshole)
 
2012-07-25 05:05:14 AM  

ox45tallboy: Uchiha_Cycliste: Wow, I rambled much more than I intended... sorry.

No, I think you expressed a good sentiment - it's dangerous to lump people together in one's thinking, especially in a state as diverse as California. (Why do they seem to love Republican Governors but Democratic Presidents?)

I always like to hear the thoughts of those with more direct experience than I myself possess, especially if those thoughts conflict with my own preconceived notions.

So any Arizona Farkers want to explain Sheriff Joe?


It's not always Republican Governors, remember Gray Davis? Boy howdy did we get burned on that one. But the real political problems in CA stem from a congress that absolutely refuses to work together for the greater good of the state. Every congressman has their own tiny fiefdom, and only cares about catering to their district. They will do whatever it takes to make sure their constituents are happy in order to ensure re-election and when the R's and D;s don't see eye to eye they absolutely, positively refuse to cooperate and negotiate. At every turn, at every vote and for every action all they care about is looking good to their district This causes enormous gridlock. In addition, they can pass acts that cost money with a simple majority, but in order to raise revenues they need a super majority, so it's pretty commonplace to vote for expenses with out being able to pass acts for the corresponding revenues. it's farked up yo.
 
2012-07-25 05:09:42 AM  

ox45tallboy: Burn_The_Plows: And don't forget it contains one of the finest drunk actors of all time -- JMV.

And Bruce Lee's son. Really.


"Waas Sappening!"


Off-topic: That's Jason Scott Lee, who played Bruce Lee in Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story. He is not Brandon Lee, son of Bruce Lee who died making The Crow. Although Jason Scott Lee does look more like Bruce than his own son.

Born is East L.A. is great. Arpaio is a dick.
 
2012-07-25 05:12:01 AM  

stoli n coke: Oklahoma should probably be given back to the Indians. Even though I hate to think why they would want that tornado bait hellhole.


No problem, the Indians won't live in double-wides and trailer parks and will thus be spared the wrath of God.
 
2012-07-25 05:14:01 AM  

Lorelle: StreetlightInTheGhetto: You're family has been here longer than mine (I'm 2nd gen) but I'm white and any folks in my family with accents have suppressed them or passed on so I don't have anything to worry about. That kind of sucks.

Same goes for my family. We have the reverse problem: most of us are brown, speak very little or no Spanish, and occasionally have to deal with shiat from down-home Messicans who call us pochos or coconuts (like Rudy in Born In East L.A.), and from non-Messicans who think we know Spanish but pretend not to speak it because we're ashamed of it. I have a slight Valley Girl accent, and my formal Spanish sucks. That doesn't matter to people like Arpaio, though, because all they see is a brown person who might be here illegally.


I have a very different problem than both of you. My mom is a white "gringa." My dad tho, he's Mexican. They met at a wedding, yada, yada, yada.. Because my dad had a company in Mexico, we used to live there. Since the hospitals where better on this side of the border, my sisters and me were born here in the US. So we are natural born citizens. I'm the only one in the family, besides my father, that has a think mexican accent. To make things worst, I have problems recognizing and pronouncing certain sounds. When I speak spanish, those mispronounced sounds (for example sh and ch) are not big of a deal, but they can be a huge problem when I speak English. I've been thinking about going to a speech therapist, but I haven't had the time nor do I know where to find one.

Many americans believe that I'm either south american or from spain. They are amazed that I used to live in Mexico. I blow their minds telling them that my dad had his own company, that my dad has a masters degree, and that my mom had to pay taxes to Uncle Sam even tho she wasn't living here in the US. If I tell them that I had a great life in Mexico, they don't believe me. In their defense, we lived in Mexico before the cartels took total control of the country and my dad made more money than most middle class americans.
 
2012-07-25 05:14:34 AM  
As Arpaio testified in court, dozens of opponents protested outside, and four were arrested for blocking traffic. The four are undocumented immigrants from Mexico who came to the U.S. with their families...


Heh.
 
2012-07-25 05:15:33 AM  
I am all for a fair trial and justice, but is it really fair to use Joe's own words against him? Arpaio? Sounds brown.
 
2012-07-25 05:17:38 AM  

ox45tallboy: FTFA: "The fact that that type of work doesn't require any type of uhm you don't have to show an id, uhm, it would be easier, that type of work would be easier for uhm a person in this country illegally to uhm get because they wouldn't have the proper paperwork for other types of employment."



/does not approve

I recently re-watched this movie a month or so ago, and I think it holds up extremely well, especially in the current climate of looking down on brown people being a "socially acceptable" racism. Bigots now have someone they can feel as if they are better than, because they're "only racist against the illegal immigrants, not against all Messicans." And they're illegal.


Boy, oh boy, THIS.

And Cheech looks like Mario in that picture.

/he was born in East LA
 
2012-07-25 05:23:51 AM  
99 all
 
2012-07-25 05:27:40 AM  

ox45tallboy: SN1987a goes boom: The two thirds of Americans that aren't functionally retarded.

You're a bit optimistic, aren't you? I mean, I hope it's that high, but I'm currently at my sister's house in Alabama, two counties away from the "Christian Cross Lighting Ceremony" a couple of weeks ago. I can't say I've encountered that good of a percentage lately.


They all settle to the bottom of the country. Like a snow globe.
 
2012-07-25 05:30:29 AM  

PC LOAD LETTER: GAT_00: Bloody William: Am I the only one who wouldn't mind seeing Joe Arpaio taking the Budd Dwyer retirement plan?

There's no way this cockbag wouldn't try to take out others. He doesn't even have the decency to off himself.

Did you look up the fact that Budd Dwyer offed himself and only himself before posting this?


I know who Budd Dwyer is. PA politican of some sort, offed himself at a press conference to keep from being convicted of ethics charges so his wife got his pension.
 
2012-07-25 05:41:37 AM  

nekulor: May he find misfortune wherever he goes. I wouldn't piss on Sheriff Joe to put out a fire.


I would. In fact, I'd merrily piss on him even if he wasn't on fire.
 
2012-07-25 05:48:05 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: At every turn, at every vote and for every action all they care about is looking good to their district This causes enormous gridlock. In addition, they can pass acts that cost money with a simple majority, but in order to raise revenues they need a super majority, so it's pretty commonplace to vote for expenses with out being able to pass acts for the corresponding revenues.


Doesn't California also have "ballot initiatives" which suffer from the same problem?
 
2012-07-25 05:48:44 AM  

Dog Man: Off-topic: That's Jason Scott Lee, who played Bruce Lee in Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story. He is not Brandon Lee, son of Bruce Lee who died making The Crow. Although Jason Scott Lee does look more like Bruce than his own son.


You are correct, sir. My apologies.
 
2012-07-25 05:49:35 AM  

TheMysticS: They all settle to the bottom of the country. Like a snow globe.


I like how your posts show up in purple.
 
2012-07-25 05:59:07 AM  

ox45tallboy: Uchiha_Cycliste: At every turn, at every vote and for every action all they care about is looking good to their district This causes enormous gridlock. In addition, they can pass acts that cost money with a simple majority, but in order to raise revenues they need a super majority, so it's pretty commonplace to vote for expenses with out being able to pass acts for the corresponding revenues.

Doesn't California also have "ballot initiatives" which suffer from the same problem?


Not as such, AFAIK all ballot initiatives simply need to pass with majorities. The problem is getting enough people to vote yes on more taxes, Its much easier to her them to vote on more spending. Last election there was a ballot initiative to change the taxing majority in congress to be downgraded to a simple majority (like spending) but I don't believe it passed; short sighted idiots I for one voted yes on it. Of coutse
 
2012-07-25 06:03:28 AM  
What hypocrasy...

Sherrif Joe being targeted for racism...by a group called LA RAZA (The Race)

Every group going against Sherrif Joe pushes the Racist ideas of Aztlan and Reconquista. This is nothing but Arpaio being lynched by the Hispanic Ku Klux Klan....using Black Racist Eric Holder as their point man. Sick
 
2012-07-25 06:11:26 AM  

UCFRoadWarrior: What hypocrasy...

Sherrif Joe being targeted for racism...by a group called LA RAZA (The Race)

Every group going against Sherrif Joe pushes the Racist ideas of Aztlan and Reconquista. This is nothing but Arpaio being lynched by the Hispanic Ku Klux Klan....using Black Racist Eric Holder as their point man. Sick


the misspelling almost made me think you were serious...but no, still troll. 2/10.
 
2012-07-25 06:32:01 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: Not as such, AFAIK all ballot initiatives simply need to pass with majorities. The problem is getting enough people to vote yes on more taxes, Its much easier to her them to vote on more spending. Last election there was a ballot initiative to change the taxing majority in congress to be downgraded to a simple majority (like spending) but I don't believe it passed; short sighted idiots I for one voted yes on it. Of coutse


Well, that's what I meant. By gathering enough signatures in support of an idea, no matter how oddball, Californians can vote on proposed legislation, including legislation requiring spending, via a "Ballot Initiative" - even if the proposed law contains no method of funding (tax increase or spending cut elsewhere). If passed by simple majority vote, these initiatives become law and the Legislature must figure out a way to pay for them. It seems great when you're first presented with the idea, but in practice, it turns out to be a rather silly way to run a state government.
 
2012-07-25 06:33:07 AM  

Pachelbel: the misspelling almost made me think you were serious...but no, still troll. 2/10.


You should update your Farkie more often - that's his shtick.
 
2012-07-25 06:35:33 AM  
I'm guessing that the snowbirds register to vote in AZ, since elections are held while they're there, and thus the average voter for Arpaio is even older than he is.
 
2012-07-25 06:47:08 AM  
Hooray for comeuppance!
 
2012-07-25 06:50:00 AM  

hubiestubert: He also asked if I was being held against my will, despite the fact that we were all still wearing our chef's coats...

Apparently, we weren't supposed to mix after work...


That happened to my sister in Providence, RI... She's about as white as you can get without being see through and she was driving through one of the worst neighborhoods in Providence (Onleyville) with her co-worker, a black male. She was a Property Manager at the time and most of the properties she managed were Section 8 housing.

Anyway, they get pulled over by the Providence Cops for no reason... Apparently the cop was "just checking to make sure she wasn't being held against her will" by her co-worker.

I understand bad things happen all the time, but damn, that's got to be insulting and infuriating for someone, who just happens to be black or brown, going about their business.

My sister's co-worker took it in stride, but damn...
 
2012-07-25 06:52:26 AM  
Oh yeah, and fark this racist, crooked piece of shiat, Arpaio.

He shouldn't even be allowed to run a vegetable stand never mind a police force.
 
2012-07-25 06:52:49 AM  
Remember, disbanding the felony warrants squad and reassigning them to illegal immigrant hunts doesn't mean he's obsessed with Mexicans, it just means that he really doesn't like Mexicans.
 
2012-07-25 06:53:49 AM  

ox45tallboy: I'm actually proud to not have known that.


...and yet, when Christians say that about science, you laugh.

Therefore, ha ha. Idiot doesn't know iCarly's not on Disney channel.
 
2012-07-25 06:56:05 AM  

hubiestubert: As a former Maricopa resident, his department has a for Driving While Brown. Or Black.

I remember being stopped a while back, and the surprise of the officer who realized I was white in an '88 New Yorker. He then grew happier when he realized that there were a couple of brown and black folks in the car, and ran us through a few hoops to prove that we'd just gotten out of work and were headed home. He also asked if I was being held against my will,


Duh. Of course I'm being held against my will officer - by you.
 
2012-07-25 06:59:03 AM  
I just had a thought.


Is Joe Arpaio married?
 
2012-07-25 06:59:19 AM  

Pachelbel: UCFRoadWarrior: What hypocrasy...

Sherrif Joe being targeted for racism...by a group called LA RAZA (The Race)

Every group going against Sherrif Joe pushes the Racist ideas of Aztlan and Reconquista. This is nothing but Arpaio being lynched by the Hispanic Ku Klux Klan....using Black Racist Eric Holder as their point man. Sick

the misspelling almost made me think you were serious...but no, still troll. 2/10.


Christ, that stupid, debunked pile of shiat is STILL a talking point? Good lord.
 
2012-07-25 07:00:31 AM  

ox45tallboy: SN1987a goes boom: The two thirds of Americans that aren't functionally retarded.

You're a bit optimistic, aren't you? I mean, I hope it's that high, but I'm currently at my sister's house in Alabama, two counties away from the "Christian Cross Lighting Ceremony" a couple of weeks ago. I can't say I've encountered that good of a percentage lately.


Come on up to St. Louis. Between the city and the county, it's at least 77% retards. I may be being a bit harsh on the county...the city tends to throw the curve up a bit.
 
2012-07-25 07:05:26 AM  

ox45tallboy: dickfreckle: Just wanted to say I thoroughly enjoyed the epic Norquist/Bachmann thread.

I'm glad you did. I've gotten accused of "monopolizing the thread" in the past, so I tried picking one that wasn't green this time and left it up to the mods. I'll try doing the same again in the future; I don't want to interfere with the otherwise civil discourse we enjoy here.


A: I saw monopolize away.
2: If such threads in the future are not greened, I hope I am informed. Reading a couple of them would be a decent way to spend $5.
 
2012-07-25 07:05:55 AM  
Vaya con Dios, Sheriff Joe. Vaya con Dios.
 
2012-07-25 07:14:32 AM  

IlGreven: ...and yet, when Christians say that about science, you laugh.

Therefore, ha ha. Idiot doesn't know iCarly's not on Disney channel.


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i53.tinypic.com
 
2012-07-25 07:15:05 AM  
Sheriff Joe is an Elected Official and therefore immune to prosecution based on his own statements.

There is precedent!
 
2012-07-25 07:18:13 AM  

Zerochance: Vaya con Dios

El Diablo, Sheriff Joe. Vaya con Dios El Diablo.

Yo no creo que Dios lo aproba.
 
2012-07-25 07:19:38 AM  
God damn you republicans are a twisted lot.
 
2012-07-25 07:21:09 AM  
 
2012-07-25 07:23:47 AM  
You're a Republican, so everything you ever said or ever did can only ever mean precisely and exactly what liberals think it means. Forever. No take backs.

You're a Democrat, so everything you ever said or ever did is just a nuance, or was a long time ago, or it's just not related, why are you even bringing it up?
 
2012-07-25 07:25:11 AM  

Karac: A: I saw monopolize away.
2: If such threads in the future are not greened, I hope I am informed. Reading a couple of them would be a decent way to spend $5.


Ah, we'll see. I don't want to take away from the whole point of Fark. Besides, that thread took me something like 4 hours to put together. I have to do all the html formatting on the fly, because part of the fun is responding to other people in the thread. With Fark's flood protection, I can't just line up the pics and send them one right after the other, and honestly, I never know exactly where I'm going with some of them.
 
2012-07-25 07:26:46 AM  

randomjsa: You're a Republican, so everything you ever said or ever did can only ever mean precisely and exactly what liberals think it means. Forever. No take backs.

You're a Democrat, so everything you ever said or ever did is just a nuance, or was a long time ago, or it's just not related, why are you even bringing it up?


Protip, randomjsa/libbynomore2/stewmadness: If you're going to have a dumbass thought, don't write it down on something that has your name on it.

Both you and Sheriff Joe could use that advice.
 
2012-07-25 07:27:39 AM  
I predict absolutely nothing will come of this.
 
2012-07-25 07:28:24 AM  

randomjsa: You're a Republican, so everything you ever said or ever did can only ever mean precisely and exactly what liberals think it means. Forever. No take backs.

You're a Democrat, so everything you ever said or ever did is just a nuance, or was a long time ago, or it's just not related, why are you even bringing it up?


Not your best effort, dude. Seriously, what has happened to your troll mojo lately?

I keep telling you, we have Obamacare now, you can go get it checked out. Go see a doctor, get some pills or some counseling or therapy or something, cause man, you're losing it. No one's even biting anymore.
 
2012-07-25 07:29:45 AM  

GAT_00: PC LOAD LETTER: GAT_00: Bloody William: Am I the only one who wouldn't mind seeing Joe Arpaio taking the Budd Dwyer retirement plan?

There's no way this cockbag wouldn't try to take out others. He doesn't even have the decency to off himself.

Did you look up the fact that Budd Dwyer offed himself and only himself before posting this?

I know who Budd Dwyer is. PA politican of some sort, offed himself at a press conference to keep from being convicted of ethics charges so his wife got his pension.


Whups, I came down with illiteracy when I read your post. I thought you made no sense, when it was me. If only I was drunk or high so I had an excuse.
 
2012-07-25 07:30:08 AM  
FTFA: Instead, Arpaio consistently deflected Young's questions about the impact questionable constituent letters have on the sheriff's immigration sweeps. Arpaio repeatedly said he delegates those decisions.

YOU are the captain of your ship, Sheriff Joe. YOU are solely responsible for the people under your command. The buck stops with YOU.
 
2012-07-25 07:30:37 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: I predict absolutely nothing will come of this.


Well, for the record, that's the same thing Sheriff Joe said about the other Civil Rights lawsuits that have cost his county in the neighborhood of $10,000,000 since he's been in power. He should be relieved that this one isn't even about money.
 
2012-07-25 07:31:17 AM  

xanadian: YOU are the captain of your ship, Sheriff Joe. YOU are solely responsible for the people under your command. The buck stops with YOU.


He'll retroactively retire if he's ever found guilty.
 
2012-07-25 07:32:07 AM  
Arpaio repeatedly said he delegates those decisions.

If the county sheriff delegates all his authority to deputies, and swears on the stand that he has no responsibility for their actions .... then what the fark are they paying him for? He can draw up bad powerpoints for birthers from his own basement, on his own dime - he doesn't need a taxypaer funded office to do that. End the government waste!
 
2012-07-25 07:33:49 AM  
Joe knows minorities get a bad rap. This is why he goes out of his way to preemptively clear them and wish them a nice day. Yes, in the process of clearing some of them he'll discover something wrong. But the point is, Joe doesn't set out to arrest those people and he doesn't profile for a nefarious reason. He's just trying to be nice.
 
2012-07-25 07:33:59 AM  

Karac: ... then what the fark are they paying him for?


To find the Muslin Usurper's real birth certificate, of course...
 
2012-07-25 07:34:15 AM  

ox45tallboy: HotWingConspiracy: I predict absolutely nothing will come of this.

Well, for the record, that's the same thing Sheriff Joe said about the other Civil Rights lawsuits that have cost his county in the neighborhood of $10,000,000 since he's been in power. He should be relieved that this one isn't even about money.


He doesn't give a single fark about the cost, it's not hurting him at all.
 
2012-07-25 07:34:43 AM  

ox45tallboy: I keep telling you, we have Obamacare now, you can go get it checked out. Go see a doctor, get some pills or some counseling or therapy or something, cause man, you're losing it. No one's even biting anymore.


He can't. Hes afraid of the death panels.
 
2012-07-25 07:39:11 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: He doesn't give a single fark about the cost, it's not hurting him at all.


Wow, it's almost like the constituents are saying, "Well, he made millionaires out of a couple of them wetbacks, but he sure enough showed them couple thousand or so others what for."
 
2012-07-25 07:48:34 AM  

LarryDan43: Joe knows minorities get a bad rap. This is why he goes out of his way to preemptively clear them and wish them a nice day. Yes, in the process of clearing some of them he'll discover something wrong. But the point is, Joe doesn't set out to arrest those people and he doesn't profile for a nefarious reason. He's just trying to be nice.


"And if you play the tape backwards, you see the officers help Rodney King up and send him on his way."

God, I wish Bill Hicks and Carlin would have lived long enough to witness the teabaggers in action. They'd both have enough material to do an HBO special every month.
 
2012-07-25 07:53:10 AM  

stoli n coke: LarryDan43: Joe knows minorities get a bad rap. This is why he goes out of his way to preemptively clear them and wish them a nice day. Yes, in the process of clearing some of them he'll discover something wrong. But the point is, Joe doesn't set out to arrest those people and he doesn't profile for a nefarious reason. He's just trying to be nice.

"And if you play the tape backwards, you see the officers help Rodney King up and send him on his way."

God, I wish Bill Hicks and Carlin would have lived long enough to witness the teabaggers in action. They'd both have enough material to do an HBO special every month.


I'm sure Carlin remembered the Birchers.
 
2012-07-25 07:58:58 AM  
As Arpaio testified in court, dozens of opponents protested outside, and four were arrested for blocking traffic. The four are undocumented immigrants from Mexico who came to the U.S. with their families, according to Tania Unzueta of the National Day Laborer Organizing Network, which helped organize the protest.

Police said each will likely face a misdemeanor charge of failure to obey law enforcement's orders.



How about they are arrested for being here ILLEGALLY!

this "undocumented immigrants" PC crap is... well, crap. They are here legally or illegally, illegally means they are illegals.

 
2012-07-25 08:00:36 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: On a related note, thank Biki (the bike god) that Gato-negro and every other incarnation of animal-color is gone.
It's a much nicer place with out him, granted he's probably still here as someone else. But that guy sucked.

\So did Winterwhile
\\Gary could be amusing at times.
\\\Phil sucked.
\\\\Praise Biki!


Aw. I loved winterwhile.

Granted the guy probably had a serious mental health issue, but I was tears laughing when he went on that rant about "underwater basketball degrees"
 
2012-07-25 08:06:59 AM  

vegasj: As Arpaio testified in court, dozens of opponents protested outside, and four were arrested for blocking traffic. The four are undocumented immigrants from Mexico who came to the U.S. with their families, according to Tania Unzueta of the National Day Laborer Organizing Network, which helped organize the protest.

Police said each will likely face a misdemeanor charge of failure to obey law enforcement's orders.


How about they are arrested for being here ILLEGALLY!

this "undocumented immigrants" PC crap is... well, crap.


Or accurate. But you don't care about societies rules, man. PC is crap.

They are here legally or illegally, illegally means they are illegals.

They haven't been convicted of a crime, the justice systems says they're fine for now.
 
2012-07-25 08:15:36 AM  

randomjsa: You're a Republican, so everything you ever said or ever did can only ever mean precisely and exactly what liberals think it means. Forever. No take backs.

You're a Democrat, so everything you ever said or ever did is just a nuance, or was a long time ago, or it's just not related, why are you even bringing it up?


Go sit in the corner.
 
2012-07-25 08:38:52 AM  
I love the fact that some of his most diehard supporters have stated that even if the Fed use this case to force him out of office that they can just reelect him next time it comes around. They don't understand that the fed will make sure any punishment includes something long the lines of not being able to run for any officer ever again.
 
2012-07-25 08:49:12 AM  

Bloody William: Am I the only one who wouldn't mind seeing Joe Arpaio taking the Budd Dwyer retirement plan?


I'd much rather see him serve out a term in tent city, pink underwear and all.
 
2012-07-25 08:50:33 AM  

vegasj: As Arpaio testified in court, dozens of opponents protested outside, and four were arrested for blocking traffic. The four are undocumented immigrants from Mexico who came to the U.S. with their families, according to Tania Unzueta of the National Day Laborer Organizing Network, which helped organize the protest.

Police said each will likely face a misdemeanor charge of failure to obey law enforcement's orders.


How about they are arrested for being here ILLEGALLY!

this "undocumented immigrants" PC crap is... well, crap. They are here legally or illegally, illegally means they are illegals.


The image is too big to show directly, here's the Link.

Basically, lets start off by assuming you're even eligible to get a green card. If that's true, it still takes a minimum of six years to gain citizenship - that's for spouses of people who are already citizens or somebody who's a world class athlete that wants to play for a US team.

But if you don't already have close family ties in the US, and you don't have some specialized skill, you're basiclly SOL - there's only 10,000 of those allowed in each year.

I just can't find it in myself to drum up some great amount of anger at some unskilled day laborer who's just doing what he has to to make a decent life for his kids, but has to break the law one time to do so because a hundred years ago the US set up a quota system because people got scared that the Irish, Chinese and Italians were going to swamp the god-fearing WASPs under in a sea of immigrants.
 
2012-07-25 08:55:26 AM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Uchiha_Cycliste: On a related note, thank Biki (the bike god) that Gato-negro and every other incarnation of animal-color is gone.
It's a much nicer place with out him, granted he's probably still here as someone else. But that guy sucked.

\So did Winterwhile
\\Gary could be amusing at times.
\\\Phil sucked.
\\\\Praise Biki!

Aw. I loved winterwhile.

Granted the guy probably had a serious mental health issue, but I was tears laughing when he went on that rant about "underwater basketball degrees"


I never saw him rant or ever EVAR say anything ineligible. His posts were always something incendiary, juvenile, and frankly retarded (clinically). All he ever did was draw attention away from a thread by requiring farkers to chastise him like a puppy who piddled the bed and knew better by now. But without the cuteness.
 
2012-07-25 09:09:32 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: On a related note, thank Biki (the bike god) that Gato-negro and every other incarnation of animal-color is gone.
It's a much nicer place with out him, granted he's probably still here as someone else. But that guy sucked.

\So did Winterwhile
\\Gary could be amusing at times.
\\\Phil sucked.
\\\\Praise Biki!


Remember Darconix? My responses to him are why I still can't post pics.
 
2012-07-25 09:16:34 AM  

vegasj: As Arpaio testified in court, dozens of opponents protested outside, and four were arrested for blocking traffic. The four are undocumented immigrants from Mexico who came to the U.S. with their families, according to Tania Unzueta of the National Day Laborer Organizing Network, which helped organize the protest.

Police said each will likely face a misdemeanor charge of failure to obey law enforcement's orders.


How about they are arrested for being here ILLEGALLY!

this "undocumented immigrants" PC crap is... well, crap. They are here legally or illegally, illegally means they are illegals.


Have you ever violated any law or ordinance?
 
2012-07-25 09:26:29 AM  
I love Sheriff Joe. May he be re-elected and continue to give the DOJ 'the bird'.

c325970.r70.cf1.rackcdn.com
 
2012-07-25 09:27:48 AM  
Its going to be funny watching him wear the pink prison jumpsuit that he made so many others wear.

Hey Joe, enjoy the prison buttrape.
 
2012-07-25 09:27:58 AM  

ox45tallboy: Uchiha_Cycliste: Not as such, AFAIK all ballot initiatives simply need to pass with majorities. The problem is getting enough people to vote yes on more taxes, Its much easier to her them to vote on more spending. Last election there was a ballot initiative to change the taxing majority in congress to be downgraded to a simple majority (like spending) but I don't believe it passed; short sighted idiots I for one voted yes on it. Of coutse

Well, that's what I meant. By gathering enough signatures in support of an idea, no matter how oddball, Californians can vote on proposed legislation, including legislation requiring spending, via a "Ballot Initiative" - even if the proposed law contains no method of funding (tax increase or spending cut elsewhere). If passed by simple majority vote, these initiatives become law and the Legislature must figure out a way to pay for them. It seems great when you're first presented with the idea, but in practice, it turns out to be a rather silly way to run a state government.



I think that's sort of a half-truth. I suppose the ballot initiative grants the people the power to vote for projects like an unfunded billion dollar escalator to heaven. However, despite what Fox news and the deep south would lead you to believe, most of (voting) Californians are not stupid. Successful ballot initiatives, from what I've seem, and I haven't voted in many elections yet, offer up both a description of what is being voted on AND a plan for where the money will come from whether its a bond that the residents of the state are on the hook for, or an increase in state sales tax, or what have you. It's possible for un-funded what have you to be voted on, but it's very unlikely to pass because the people aren't to keen on projects being paid for by magic money. Honestly, the CA voters are more mature than the CA senate/congress.
Prop 8 was an outlier and frankly the Mormon churches fault.
How they remain tax exempt is a mystery to me. I suppose their sheister god works in mysterious ways in order to involve himself in the politics of hatred.
 
2012-07-25 09:28:46 AM  

rufus-t-firefly: Uchiha_Cycliste: On a related note, thank Biki (the bike god) that Gato-negro and every other incarnation of animal-color is gone.
It's a much nicer place with out him, granted he's probably still here as someone else. But that guy sucked.

\So did Winterwhile
\\Gary could be amusing at times.
\\\Phil sucked.
\\\\Praise Biki!

Remember Darconix? My responses to him are why I still can't post pics.


Heh, was it worth it?
 
2012-07-25 09:33:52 AM  

Goodfella: Its going to be funny watching him wear the pink prison jumpsuit that he made so many others wear.

Hey Joe, enjoy the prison buttrape.


Doubtful - Sherriff Joe is like Michelle Bachmann; coated in "asshole" teflon. They do exactly what their constituents want them to, so they're not going anywhere.
 
2012-07-25 09:36:33 AM  
time to ride to work.
Talk to you dudes later.
 
2012-07-25 09:37:48 AM  

randomjsa: You're a Republican, so everything you ever said or ever did can only ever mean precisely and exactly what liberals think it means. Forever. No take backs.

You're a Democrat, so everything you ever said or ever did is just a nuance, or was a long time ago, or it's just not related, why are you even bringing it up?


Just let it go. It's gone. Get your mind right, and quit yelling at clouds - the future is coming, and you can't stop it. You really ought to spare yourself all this grief.
 
2012-07-25 09:48:13 AM  

TV's Vinnie: Bloody William: Am I the only one who wouldn't mind seeing Joe Arpaio taking the Budd Dwyer retirement plan?

I'm more in favor of him being enrolled in the Jeffrey Dahmer early-release program.

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There are times in which I love FARK so very, very much. THIS is one of those times.
 
2012-07-25 09:48:18 AM  
Would someone please Photoshop Sheriff Joe wearing a pink uniform?

/thanks
//that would be teh awesome
 
2012-07-25 10:08:57 AM  

Huggermugger: Would someone please Photoshop Sheriff Joe wearing a pink uniform?

/thanks
//that would be teh awesome


i950.photobucket.com

Quick n dirty...
 
2012-07-25 10:27:50 AM  

Zerochance: Doubtful - Sherriff Joe is like Michelle Bachmann; coated in "asshole" teflon. They do exactly what their constituents want them to, so they're not going anywhere.


and just like Bachmann, he is well funded by outside money so it will be tough to get him out of office.
 
2012-07-25 10:40:48 AM  

sillydragon: Quick n dirty..


That's not Arpaio.

Nice coloring tho.
 
2012-07-25 11:13:47 AM  

UCFRoadWarrior: What hypocrasy...

Sherrif Joe being targeted for racism...by a group called LA RAZA (The Race)

Every group going against Sherrif Joe pushes the Racist ideas of Aztlan and Reconquista. This is nothing but Arpaio being lynched by the Hispanic Ku Klux Klan....using Black Racist Eric Holder as their point man. Sick


U Mad, ese?

www.dudelol.com
 
2012-07-25 12:29:07 PM  

ox45tallboy: Uchiha_Cycliste: Not as such, AFAIK all ballot initiatives simply need to pass with majorities. The problem is getting enough people to vote yes on more taxes, Its much easier to her them to vote on more spending. Last election there was a ballot initiative to change the taxing majority in congress to be downgraded to a simple majority (like spending) but I don't believe it passed; short sighted idiots I for one voted yes on it. Of coutse

Well, that's what I meant. By gathering enough signatures in support of an idea, no matter how oddball, Californians can vote on proposed legislation, including legislation requiring spending, via a "Ballot Initiative" - even if the proposed law contains no method of funding (tax increase or spending cut elsewhere). If passed by simple majority vote, these initiatives become law and the Legislature must figure out a way to pay for them. It seems great when you're first presented with the idea, but in practice, it turns out to be a rather silly way to run a state government.


As UC mentioned, it seems that successful spending initiatives are more likely to have a funding plan attached. But just to clear up one bit: initiatives that involve tax increases require a two-thirds supermajority, except for school bonds, which require 55%.
 
2012-07-25 12:31:23 PM  

Burn_The_Plows: ox45tallboy: FTFA: "The fact that that type of work doesn't require any type of uhm you don't have to show an id, uhm, it would be easier, that type of work would be easier for uhm a person in this country illegally to uhm get because they wouldn't have the proper paperwork for other types of employment."

[movieactors.com image 533x363]

/does not approve

I recently re-watched this movie a month or so ago, and I think it holds up extremely well, especially in the current climate of looking down on brown people being a "socially acceptable" racism. Bigots now have someone they can feel as if they are better than, because they're "only racist against the illegal immigrants, not against all Messicans." And they're illegal.

And don't forget it contains one of the finest drunk actors of all time -- JMV.


"Machete" is almost a documentary when it comes to Sherriff Joe. A reporter uncovered the fact that he owns millions in real estate in Maricopa- before Sheriff Joe threw him in jail and then (illegally) had all his land records sealed. There no way he can afford what he has on a civil servant's salary, and pretending to be obsessed with harassing brown people makes an excellent cover story for why he's failed to serve 35,000+ felony arrest warrants (his actual job)
 
2012-07-25 12:47:14 PM  

LibertyHiller: ox45tallboy: Uchiha_Cycliste: Not as such, AFAIK all ballot initiatives simply need to pass with majorities. The problem is getting enough people to vote yes on more taxes, Its much easier to her them to vote on more spending. Last election there was a ballot initiative to change the taxing majority in congress to be downgraded to a simple majority (like spending) but I don't believe it passed; short sighted idiots I for one voted yes on it. Of coutse

Well, that's what I meant. By gathering enough signatures in support of an idea, no matter how oddball, Californians can vote on proposed legislation, including legislation requiring spending, via a "Ballot Initiative" - even if the proposed law contains no method of funding (tax increase or spending cut elsewhere). If passed by simple majority vote, these initiatives become law and the Legislature must figure out a way to pay for them. It seems great when you're first presented with the idea, but in practice, it turns out to be a rather silly way to run a state government.

As UC mentioned, it seems that successful spending initiatives are more likely to have a funding plan attached. But just to clear up one bit: initiatives that involve tax increases require a two-thirds supermajority, except for school bonds, which require 55%.


That's when passed by the legislature, right? Not when passed by voter initiative.
 
2012-07-25 12:57:57 PM  

PC LOAD LETTER: GAT_00: Bloody William: Am I the only one who wouldn't mind seeing Joe Arpaio taking the Budd Dwyer retirement plan?

There's no way this cockbag wouldn't try to take out others. He doesn't even have the decency to off himself.

Did you look up the fact that Budd Dwyer offed himself and only himself before posting this?


The problem is, Arpaio isn't half the man Dwyer was. He's more a "shooting rampage" kinda guy than a "martyr myself" kinda guy.
 
2012-07-25 01:10:33 PM  

LibertyHiller: As UC mentioned, it seems that successful spending initiatives are more likely to have a funding plan attached. But just to clear up one bit: initiatives that involve tax increases require a two-thirds supermajority, except for school bonds, which require 55%.


Uchiha_Cycliste: That's when passed by the legislature, right? Not when passed by voter initiative.


Right - it is my understanding that Voter Initiatives do not need a funding method - the text of the initiative is placed at the top of a petition, signatures are obtained, and the text of the initiative as it appears on the petitions is placed on the next ballot to be voted upon, regardless of any funding measures included or omitted. It is to the advantage of many activists to not include funding, since people are far less likely to be in favor of an initiative which raises their own taxes or cuts their own services, regardless of how positive the initiative might be.
 
2012-07-25 01:18:03 PM  

HeartBurnKid: The problem is, Arpaio isn't half the man Dwyer was. He's more a "shooting rampage" kinda guy than a "martyr myself" kinda guy.


The other thing is that Dwyer was only 48 years old, and still had many years ahead of him to rot in prison for his misdeeds. While Joe Arpaio appears to be in good health, he is 80 years old, and any real punishment he would receive for his misdeeds would be relatively brief in the grand scheme of things, especially if he were sentenced to serve time in one of the fetid, stinking, overcrowded, disease-infested hell-holes he styles as "jails". Of course, he would likely get a minimum security prison rather than the treatment he deserves,but still, those places aren't exactly the Hilton, and he has done wrong to enough people that he would likely spend his days in protective custody, rather than be able to enjoy the recreation usually afforded prisoners at those sorts of places. I still can't see him lasting more than a few years away from the creature comforts he has come to enjoy and depend upon.
 
2012-07-25 02:25:26 PM  

ox45tallboy: So any Arizona Farkers want to explain Sheriff Joe?


I'll try.

Arizona, much like the West, distrusts the Federal Government. It is an entity that is far away and has spent its time squabbling between North and South political and ideological lines. Out here, we can't pull off civilization without help- and early American settlers knew this. So there is both resentment and an open hand always for the Government from those descendants. Anytime some local politician gives the Federal Government the finger, they are beloved. Arizona is, for the recent past, represented by a lot of new people moving in. They don't know the history of the state and believe the state is an independent thing- like the state they came from. Over time, these people should being learning the history and dependencies on the Federal Government.

Sheriff Joe acts the tough guy- the John Wayne wild west type tough guy. And it resonates with people out here who want to think this place as rugged and independent. While it is the former, it isn't the latter.

Toss in the blue hair idiots who think all of American was white and Mexicans only recently began sneaking across the border and you can see a voter bloc emerge that supports him.
 
2012-07-25 02:33:36 PM  

Godscrack: sillydragon: Quick n dirty..

That's not Arpaio.

Nice coloring tho.


Damn. Not my fault, he looks like an asshole and has a badge. Easy mistake. ;)
 
2012-07-25 02:50:13 PM  

Nadie_AZ: I'll try.

Arizona, much like the West, distrusts the Federal Government. It is an entity that is far away and has spent its time squabbling between North and South political and ideological lines. Out here, we can't pull off civilization without help- and early American settlers knew this. So there is both resentment and an open hand always for the Government from those descendants. Anytime some local politician gives the Federal Government the finger, they are beloved. Arizona is, for the recent past, represented by a lot of new people moving in. They don't know the history of the state and believe the state is an independent thing- like the state they came from. Over time, these people should being learning the history and dependencies on the Federal Government.

Sheriff Joe acts the tough guy- the John Wayne wild west type tough guy. And it resonates with people out here who want to think this place as rugged and independent. While it is the former, it isn't the latter.

Toss in the blue hair idiots who think all of American was white and Mexicans only recently began sneaking across the border and you can see a voter bloc emerge that supports him.


I just don't see the appeal in the "Wild West" sort of mentality anymore. Hell, the Wild West wasn't even the romanticized Wild West, and I can't even see why someone would want to live in the romanticized version of it.

I think that deep down, there are some people whose only hope of self-validation is seeing themselves as "better than" someone else. Personally, I would want a leader who is attempting to bring people into the future, with new ideas of cooperation and advancing of all the people in general, rather than clinging to overly romanticized notions of the past. I guess I can understand where the people of Maricopa County wish for when they continue to re-elect the bastard, I just don't get why they can't see that this idealized image is not what Arpaio actually provides.
 
2012-07-25 02:54:18 PM  

ox45tallboy: I just don't see the appeal in the "Wild West" sort of mentality anymore. Hell, the Wild West wasn't even the romanticized Wild West, and I can't even see why someone would want to live in the romanticized version of it.


Because life has become too easy, perhaps?

I think that deep down, there are some people whose only hope of self-validation is seeing themselves as "better than" someone else. Personally, I would want a leader who is attempting to bring people into the future, with new ideas of cooperation and advancing of all the people in general, rather than clinging to overly romanticized notions of the past. I guess I can understand where the people of Maricopa County wish for when they continue to re-elect the bastard, I just don't get why they can't see that this idealized image is not what Arpaio actually provides.

"Joe Arpaio. Tough Guy. I only support tough guys. He's got my vote."

*sigh*
 
2012-07-25 02:56:29 PM  

Summer Glau's Love Slave: "Crucify him." ~ Thulsa Doom


"Cwucify him." ~ Pontius Pilate
 
2012-07-25 03:02:06 PM  

vegasj: How about they are arrested for being here ILLEGALLY!


Because being in this country without proper documentation isn't a crime, no matter how much bigots and douchebags squawk about "ILLEGALZ OMFGBBQ!!1!!"
 
2012-07-25 03:10:01 PM  

diaphoresis: I love Sheriff Joe. May he be re-elected and continue to give the DOJ 'the bird'.

[c325970.r70.cf1.rackcdn.com image 500x400]


Please explain why you believe the rape of underage girls is acceptable.
 
2012-07-25 03:57:11 PM  

Ctrl-Alt-Del: Because being in this country without proper documentation isn't a crime, no matter how much bigots and douchebags squawk about "ILLEGALZ OMFGBBQ!!1!!"


You might notice, It's the same group of people that take everything in the bible literally.
 
2012-07-25 04:41:44 PM  
Seriously, this guy has too much power and he's abusing it.

"Sheriff Joe" should be removed from office.
 
2012-07-25 07:35:16 PM  
Current fark banner add:
 
2012-07-25 09:32:05 PM  

ox45tallboy: TheMysticS: They all settle to the bottom of the country. Like a snow globe.

I like how your posts show up in purple.


omg Fark love!
you're the 1st person to say I'm a favorite.
I've gotten 2 TF month sponsorships, but who knows if that color thang is going on.

Purple is me fave color, too, so
I'm in dork nirvana.

Farkvana?
 
2012-07-25 09:45:30 PM  

Ctrl-Alt-Del: Because being in this country without proper documentation isn't a crime, no matter how much bigots and douchebags squawk about "ILLEGALZ OMFGBBQ!!1!!"


really? I thought we had... you know... immigration laws.

 
2012-07-25 11:27:25 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: dickfreckle: Lorelle: I'm just as brown as the other Messicans.

*on my mother's side

I'm black.

*from the waist down.

Yeah, my penis can't hold a job either.

/Ducks


Prostitution's much easier here in NV.
 
2012-07-26 01:02:15 AM  
You have Sheriff Joe, and Brewer as your governor, I'm just going to godwin this discussion right here and suggest this to be the new state flag for Arizona...

images.wikia.com

Actually, the more I think about it, the more I feel that this may represent views too socially progressive and supportive of civil rights for the majority of Arizona residents.
 
2012-07-26 03:24:20 AM  

MisterTweak: NewportBarGuy: Goodbye, Joe. You're done here.

I don't think he's done yet. He could come out and say "I'm a racist. I hate non-white people, and I will use the power of my office to arrest non-white people until they leave the state", and you would still be able to hear the quietest cricket chirping over the demands of affluent residents demanding his removal.

Civil rights rarely win popularity contests.


Too bad he's on trial where popularity doesn't count.

[cheerfully]

He's so f*cked!
 
2012-07-26 09:56:49 AM  

vegasj: really?


yes, really.

I thought we had... you know... immigration laws.

No, you didn't think. Or check. You simply got your opinion straight out of the mouth of Rush. Or Hannity. or your local wingnut preacher. Or a racist relative. Because if you had thought to check, you too would have been aware of the simple fact that while we have lots of immigration laws, being in this country without proper authorization (or documentation) is not a crime
 
2012-07-26 10:32:00 AM  

Uchiha_Cycliste: LibertyHiller: ox45tallboy: Uchiha_Cycliste: Not as such, AFAIK all ballot initiatives simply need to pass with majorities. The problem is getting enough people to vote yes on more taxes, Its much easier to her them to vote on more spending. Last election there was a ballot initiative to change the taxing majority in congress to be downgraded to a simple majority (like spending) but I don't believe it passed; short sighted idiots I for one voted yes on it. Of coutse

Well, that's what I meant. By gathering enough signatures in support of an idea, no matter how oddball, Californians can vote on proposed legislation, including legislation requiring spending, via a "Ballot Initiative" - even if the proposed law contains no method of funding (tax increase or spending cut elsewhere). If passed by simple majority vote, these initiatives become law and the Legislature must figure out a way to pay for them. It seems great when you're first presented with the idea, but in practice, it turns out to be a rather silly way to run a state government.

As UC mentioned, it seems that successful spending initiatives are more likely to have a funding plan attached. But just to clear up one bit: initiatives that involve tax increases require a two-thirds supermajority, except for school bonds, which require 55%.

That's when passed by the legislature, right? Not when passed by voter initiative.


I'm recall that when we in SF voted to raise the sales tax to keep MUNI afloat, it had to pass by two-thirds; I know we need a two-thirds vote for transportation and hospital bond issues.

ox45tallboy: LibertyHiller: As UC mentioned, it seems that successful spending initiatives are more likely to have a funding plan attached. But just to clear up one bit: initiatives that involve tax increases require a two-thirds supermajority, except for school bonds, which require 55%.

Uchiha_Cycliste: That's when passed by the legislature, right? Not when passed by voter initiative.

Right - it is my understanding that Voter Initiatives do not need a funding method - the text of the initiative is placed at the top of a petition, signatures are obtained, and the text of the initiative as it appears on the petitions is placed on the next ballot to be voted upon, regardless of any funding measures included or omitted. It is to the advantage of many activists to not include funding, since people are far less likely to be in favor of an initiative which raises their own taxes or cuts their own services, regardless of how positive the initiative might be.


They don't need to specify the funding as a matter of law, but as a matter of practical politics, identifying the funding source can help sway uncommitted voters.
 
2012-07-26 10:56:02 AM  

LibertyHiller: Uchiha_Cycliste: That's when passed by the legislature, right? Not when passed by voter initiative.

Right - it is my understanding that Voter Initiatives do not need a funding method - the text of the initiative is placed at the top of a petition, signatures are obtained, and the text of the initiative as it appears on the petitions is placed on the next ballot to be voted upon, regardless of any funding measures included or omitted. It is to the advantage of many activists to not include funding, since people are far less likely to be in favor of an initiative which raises their own taxes or cuts their own services, regardless of how positive the initiative might be.

They don't need to specify the funding as a matter of law, but as a matter of practical politics, identifying the funding source can help sway uncommitted voters.


Yeah, that is exactly what I meant. You were able to express that sentiment more explicitly though, nice.
 
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