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2012-07-24 05:33:53 PM  

NutznGum: People 'hate' on Apple and then a bunch of people get all bent out of shape about it. They get mad because someone insults a corporation. Now that's sad.


Who's getting bent out of shape? it looks like a lot of FUD was thrown around a few people were correcting it.

Attributing emotional intent to responses with dry factual information in text form says more about you than it does about them.
 
2012-07-24 05:34:34 PM  
Yeah the SIII is taking the market to pieces right now. Our mobile dist clients just cannot keep up with demand.

its also interesting that the thing is the least iLookalike thing samsung has done in the space and its a bigger hit by far.

Apple will not be enjoying this at all.
 
2012-07-24 05:35:52 PM  

FlashHarry: instantwin: It's just a joke for non-fanbois.

but i though jokes were supposed to be funny.


25.media.tumblr.com

/sorry for too old
 
2012-07-24 05:37:34 PM  

MightyPez: NutznGum: People 'hate' on Apple and then a bunch of people get all bent out of shape about it. They get mad because someone insults a corporation. Now that's sad.

Who's getting bent out of shape? it looks like a lot of FUD was thrown around a few people were correcting it.

Attributing emotional intent to responses with dry factual information in text form says more about you than it does about them.


You're right, there are no Apple fanbois anywhere, ever. No one ever whiteknights for them in Fark threads.
 
2012-07-24 05:40:57 PM  

mstang1988: sprgrss: Fuggin Bizzy: FlashHarry: instantwin: [www.heise.de image 550x335]

i don't get it. what costs $99? apples new OS versions have been $29 for a few years now. or is this like the one-button mouse thing?

$29? That's way more than $0.

the only updates that cost money are the .5 up grades. So going from 12.1 to 12.2 is free, but going from 12.0 to 12.5 costs money.

But i see you don't care about that.
The thought is you are paying for a service pack which is free on Windows. I too have a mac. It is of my opinion and therefore I will concur that apple charges for a service pack and calls it a new OS and charges money for it.


Apple doesn't charge for service packs. They're called point updates (i.e. 10.7.3 to 10.7.4) and they're free in Software Update.

You're equating Windows service packs with new versions of OS X (i.e. 10.7 to 10.8). It might be because you don't have a use for the new features, it might be because you don't consider it a new version of the OS because the GUI looks the same to you.
 
2012-07-24 05:41:51 PM  
I dunno know about you guys, but I develop my personal and tribal identity around which consumer products I buy.
 
2012-07-24 05:42:53 PM  

instantwin: FlashHarry: instantwin: It's just a joke for non-fanbois.

but i though jokes were supposed to be funny.

[25.media.tumblr.com image 550x383]

/sorry for too old


ok, now THAT'S funny.
 
2012-07-24 05:46:21 PM  
Boy, this would be a lot less interesting if analysts could read press releases.

Apple three months ago: Looking ahead to the third fiscal quarter, we expect revenue of about $34 billion and diluted earnings per share of about $8.68.

Apple today: The Company posted quarterly revenue of $35.0 billion and quarterly net profit of $8.8 billion, or $9.32 per diluted share.
 
2012-07-24 05:46:36 PM  

NutznGum: MightyPez: NutznGum: People 'hate' on Apple and then a bunch of people get all bent out of shape about it. They get mad because someone insults a corporation. Now that's sad.

Who's getting bent out of shape? it looks like a lot of FUD was thrown around a few people were correcting it.

Attributing emotional intent to responses with dry factual information in text form says more about you than it does about them.

You're right, there are no Apple fanbois anywhere, ever. No one ever whiteknights for them in Fark threads.


You're getting bent out shape, because other people got bent out shape.
 
2012-07-24 05:47:06 PM  
I sold my AAPL stock around ~$120 a few years ago, including a couple shares that I bought at $170. At the time, I wasn't expecting people to throw down a lot of money on smartphone and data plans amid rapidly growing unemployment, and I didn't think a $500-$700 iPad would get much traction for similar reasons (large household debt, weakening employment number, etc.). Oops.
 
2012-07-24 05:47:44 PM  
Hmm. They announced it RIGHT after the close of the market. Kooky!
 
2012-07-24 05:47:53 PM  

InmanRoshi: I dunno know about you guys, but I develop my personal and tribal identity around which consumer products I buy.


That's weird. My personal and tribal identities decide which consumer products I buy.

/or do they?
 
2012-07-24 05:48:17 PM  

austin_millbarge: ecmoRandomNumbers: I think it's going to be uglier next quarter. I'm selling about one iPhone for every dozen or so Android phones. The demand for the Samsung Galaxy SIII is amazing. The iPhone 5 is going to have to be something absolutely phenomenal for Apple to get their market back. This is for Verizon, mind you. AT&T's iPhone numbers are much higher, I'm sure.

They never lost their market to begin with. Their numbers have risen steadily since the first iPhone was unveiled.

And if you want to see ugly, wait til people have had time to realize what fragmentation fatigue is in the Android market. It will take a few years but just like people who realize they've been served a shiat sandwich with Windows for over 2 decades and moved to OSX, the Android fatigue will push people to the iPhone and iOS over time.


Fragmentation fatigue? Lol! People have been saying that for a couple of years and that still hasn't slowed Android adoption one bit.
 
2012-07-24 05:48:37 PM  
Funny the only people concerned the price is down on this news are silly people.

In at $107 and staying in for the long haul. So its down $30 bucks....its still up like $500 so i really do not care.

Wall Street has always reacted bad to good news and good to bad news from Apple.
 
2012-07-24 05:49:39 PM  

gaspode: Yeah the SIII is taking the market to pieces right now. Our mobile dist clients just cannot keep up with demand.

its also interesting that the thing is the least iLookalike thing samsung has done in the space and its a bigger hit by far.

Apple will not be enjoying this at all.


They sold 26 million iphones-I don't think they care.
Android still kind of sucks.
Typing this on my S3, but there are a lot of small things on ios that are so much better then android.
 
2012-07-24 05:52:49 PM  

ZZ9 Plural Z Alpha: NutznGum: MightyPez: NutznGum: People 'hate' on Apple and then a bunch of people get all bent out of shape about it. They get mad because someone insults a corporation. Now that's sad.

Who's getting bent out of shape? it looks like a lot of FUD was thrown around a few people were correcting it.

Attributing emotional intent to responses with dry factual information in text form says more about you than it does about them.

You're right, there are no Apple fanbois anywhere, ever. No one ever whiteknights for them in Fark threads.

You're getting bent out of shape, because other people got bent out of shape.


FTFM
 
2012-07-24 05:53:36 PM  

WxGuy1: I sold my AAPL stock around ~$120 a few years ago, including a couple shares that I bought at $170. At the time, I wasn't expecting people to throw down a lot of money on smartphone and data plans amid rapidly growing unemployment, and I didn't think a $500-$700 iPad would get much traction for similar reasons (large household debt, weakening employment number, etc.). Oops.


time to take a nibble for the long haul
 
2012-07-24 05:55:05 PM  

Herr Flick's Revenge:

They sold 26 million iphones-I don't think they care.
Android still kind of sucks.
Typing this on my S3, but there are a lot of small things on ios that are so much better then android.


Hey I'm just saying what I am seeing in the systems I work on and what resellers are telling us when we are in their offices. SIII alone will likely come close to matching iPhone sales over these couple of months which is a real change.
 
2012-07-24 05:55:45 PM  

theurge14: mstang1988: sprgrss: Fuggin Bizzy: FlashHarry: instantwin: [www.heise.de image 550x335]

i don't get it. what costs $99? apples new OS versions have been $29 for a few years now. or is this like the one-button mouse thing?

$29? That's way more than $0.

the only updates that cost money are the .5 up grades. So going from 12.1 to 12.2 is free, but going from 12.0 to 12.5 costs money.

But i see you don't care about that.
The thought is you are paying for a service pack which is free on Windows. I too have a mac. It is of my opinion and therefore I will concur that apple charges for a service pack and calls it a new OS and charges money for it.

Apple doesn't charge for service packs. They're called point updates (i.e. 10.7.3 to 10.7.4) and they're free in Software Update.

You're equating Windows service packs with new versions of OS X (i.e. 10.7 to 10.8). It might be because you don't have a use for the new features, it might be because you don't consider it a new version of the OS because the GUI looks the same to you.

I'm well aware of what you are talking about. Windows delivers new function in service packs much like OSX delivers in the 10.7 to 10.8 updates. It just depends on what a company calls a new OS level and when they charge for it. Take Windows XP. The functionality it supported from release to the most recent service pack is vastly different. Again, I love my Mac but I do feel the 10.7 to 10.8 type updates are the equivalent of a Windows SP.
 
2012-07-24 06:02:55 PM  

instantwin: [www.heise.de image 550x335]


You ARE aware that currently it costs $129 to go from Windows NT 6.0 to 6.1, and it will cost another $40 to upgrade from version 6.1 to 6.2, don't you? That's a tad bit more expensive than the OS X 10.5 to 10.6 ($29) to 10.7 ($29) to 10.8 ($19) total upgrade cost of a Mac user during the same time period. If you look at the features changed between Vista and Windows 8 compared to the Leopard to Mountain Lion changes, it's a roughly similar level of upgrade (setting aside the start screen added to Win 8, which is a large, albeit dubious, change).
 
2012-07-24 06:09:09 PM  

carnifex2005: Fragmentation fatigue? Lol! People have been saying that for a couple of years and that still hasn't slowed Android adoption one bit.


But it has:

cdn.androidpolice.com

Gets slower every release.
 
2012-07-24 06:12:57 PM  

Justin Bieber's Acne Medication: carnifex2005: Fragmentation fatigue? Lol! People have been saying that for a couple of years and that still hasn't slowed Android adoption one bit.

But it has:

[cdn.androidpolice.com image 850x459]

Gets slower every release.


That's the speed of updates, not the speed of Android adoption. People still will buy phones and frankly not care much what OS it is running. That is the beauty of Android.
 
2012-07-24 06:13:12 PM  

Mad_Radhu: instantwin: [www.heise.de image 550x335]

You ARE aware that currently it costs $129 to go from Windows NT 6.0 to 6.1, and it will cost another $40 to upgrade from version 6.1 to 6.2, don't you? That's a tad bit more expensive than the OS X 10.5 to 10.6 ($29) to 10.7 ($29) to 10.8 ($19) total upgrade cost of a Mac user during the same time period. If you look at the features changed between Vista and Windows 8 compared to the Leopard to Mountain Lion changes, it's a roughly similar level of upgrade (setting aside the start screen added to Win 8, which is a large, albeit dubious, change).
The thing about Windows is a new version seems to come out about the time my previous computer has become obsolete. Buy a new machine with the OS installed. It's cheap. Not that I have a problem with Apple products, just that I'm cheap and I'm used to Windows. $300 for a new box is hard to beat.

 
2012-07-24 06:19:44 PM  

Cooper420: Down $30/share because they didn't meet expectations set out by investors who more or less assume what the company should actually make.

And we wonder why banks and investment firms are usually the beginning of our financial collapses.


This is why I do not favor publicly traded companies any longer. They essentially dabble into fortune telling, and the investors react to said fortune telling. Then, when the prediction turns out to be 97% accurate, everyone reacts like it's the end of the world. Nevermind that you MADE MONEY. Nevermind the fact your business grew. No, it's just not some weird hypothetical number you pulled out of your ass. Meanwhile, your company has gone to shiat because you put all your resources, stretched your business too thin, and pissed off too many customers to meet an IMAGINARY NUMBER. Fark. That. SHIAT.
 
2012-07-24 06:22:48 PM  

mstang1988: I'm well aware of what you are talking about. Windows delivers new function in service packs much like OSX delivers in the 10.7 to 10.8 updates. It just depends on what a company calls a new OS level and when they charge for it. Take Windows XP. The functionality it supported from release to the most recent service pack is vastly different. Again, I love my Mac but I do feel the 10.7 to 10.8 type updates are the equivalent of a Windows SP.


What majorly changed between XP Gold and SP3? They added some settings for default programs, added a firewall, added NX bit support, changed the loading screen, and made using WiFi not suck as hard. These changes really didn't have any major effect on the look or feel of XP, at least not compared with going from this:

macgateway.com

to this:

3.bp.blogspot.com

During roughly the same timeframe as the XP to Vista lifecycle. Sure there were some changes with XP, but not a whole lot that your typical user would notice like they would things like Mission Control, Launchpad, AirDrop, Lion Recovery, or the new trackpad gestures added in the last Lion update. In terms of major features, Vista SP 2 to Win 7 is probably about the same as Snow Leopard to Lion (or Leopard to Lion, if you are looking at a similar time period between major updates)
 
2012-07-24 06:26:50 PM  

Thunderpipes: Weird, much bigger than Big Oil companies, sitting on over a hundred billion in cash, produces gimmicky toys nobody really needs, massive outsourcer....

Liberals love em.

Whack, wiggedy whack.



I know! Why don't liberals like oil companies? It's not like oil companies are responsible for massive pollution, fund scientific studies denying man made global warming, and sit on the largest profits while complaining about regulation and taxes. Stupid libtards!
 
2012-07-24 06:29:24 PM  

intelligent comment below: Thunderpipes: Weird, much bigger than Big Oil companies, sitting on over a hundred billion in cash, produces gimmicky toys nobody really needs, massive outsourcer....

Liberals love em.

Whack, wiggedy whack.


I know! Why don't liberals like oil companies? It's not like oil companies are responsible for massive pollution, fund scientific studies denying man made global warming, and sit on the largest profits while complaining about regulation and taxes. Stupid libtards!


That's funny because...
 
2012-07-24 06:30:28 PM  

carnifex2005: People still will buy phones and frankly not care much what OS it is running. That is the beauty of Android.


How the heck is that "beautiful?"
 
2012-07-24 06:30:36 PM  

blipponaut: The thing about Windows is a new version seems to come out about the time my previous computer has become obsolete. Buy a new machine with the OS installed. It's cheap. Not that I have a problem with Apple products, just that I'm cheap and I'm used to Windows. $300 for a new box is hard to beat.


That used to be true ten years ago, but with the 3 year Windows release cycle combined with processor speeds hitting a bit of a ceiling, where a quad core i7 system is crazy fast, but excluding gaming and high end content creation, that new box isn't all that noticeably faster than a fast Core 2 Duo. I can see a lot of people who bought a decent computer 3 years ago still being able to get a lot of life out of it with some RAM and hard drive upgrades. An SSD especially breathes new life into a lot of older systems.
 
2012-07-24 06:32:00 PM  
As someone who works on both, all I'm saying is, if you have an Apple, you had better damn well pony up for AppleCare, because if something dies inside that MacBook or iMac, yer farked. It's not like replacing anything in a Windows tower. Link
 
2012-07-24 06:36:56 PM  

mstang1988: I love my Mac but I do feel the 10.7 to 10.8 type updates are the equivalent of a Windows SP.



As opposed to Windows Vista -> Windows 7 -> Windows 8
 
2012-07-24 06:37:39 PM  

ecmoRandomNumbers: I think it's going to be uglier next quarter. I'm selling about one iPhone for every dozen or so Android phones. The demand for the Samsung Galaxy SIII is amazing. The iPhone 5 is going to have to be something absolutely phenomenal for Apple to get their market back. This is for Verizon, mind you. AT&T's iPhone numbers are much higher, I'm sure.


The iPhone 5 will be the most awesomest phone ever made. Its name has 5 in it ffs. No other phone has that.

/Galaxy SIII owner
 
2012-07-24 06:37:47 PM  

Justin Bieber's Acne Medication: carnifex2005: People still will buy phones and frankly not care much what OS it is running. That is the beauty of Android.

How the heck is that "beautiful?"


Do you care what version of firmware your car's computer runs? Do you want to care, or would you rather just drive somewhere to do something? I'm a software developer for a fortune 82 company. Day in and day out it's my job to think about our product versions, the differences between them, and how those differences impact customers.

When I pick up my Droid, I just want to text my wife, check FB to see what my friends are up to, and shoot some birds at some pigs. I honestly have no idea what version of Android I'm running, and I don't care as long as it works. That's how it's beautiful.
 
2012-07-24 06:39:15 PM  

oh_please: As someone who works on both, all I'm saying is, if you have an Apple, you had better damn well pony up for AppleCare, because if something dies inside that MacBook or iMac, yer farked. It's not like replacing anything in a Windows tower. Link


Yeah, the new iMacs are a huge pain, and you can't do ANYTHING with the MacBook Airs. I do have to say that my wife's white Macbook was really easy to do a hard drive and RAM upgrade on, however. I just popped off the bottom of the case and both were easily accessible.
 
2012-07-24 06:39:51 PM  

Ed Finnerty: intelligent comment below: Thunderpipes: Weird, much bigger than Big Oil companies, sitting on over a hundred billion in cash, produces gimmicky toys nobody really needs, massive outsourcer....

Liberals love em.

Whack, wiggedy whack.


I know! Why don't liberals like oil companies? It's not like oil companies are responsible for massive pollution, fund scientific studies denying man made global warming, and sit on the largest profits while complaining about regulation and taxes. Stupid libtards!

That's funny because...



That's funny because... banks are ALSO loved by libtards! What a coincidence!
 
2012-07-24 06:40:57 PM  

WxGuy1: I sold my AAPL stock around ~$120 a few years ago, including a couple shares that I bought at $170. At the time, I wasn't expecting people to throw down a lot of money on smartphone and data plans amid rapidly growing unemployment


Even the worst depressions happen on the margins. Easy to forget that reading the usual Fark thread full of whiners.
 
2012-07-24 06:42:00 PM  

Fuggin Bizzy: When I pick up my Droid, I just want to text my wife, check FB to see what my friends are up to, and shoot some birds at some pigs. I honestly have no idea what version of Android I'm running, and I don't care as long as it works. That's how it's beautiful.



Strange, the iPhone is perfect for someone like you.
 
2012-07-24 06:48:12 PM  

intelligent comment below: Fuggin Bizzy: When I pick up my Droid, I just want to text my wife, check FB to see what my friends are up to, and shoot some birds at some pigs. I honestly have no idea what version of Android I'm running, and I don't care as long as it works. That's how it's beautiful.


Strange, the iPhone is perfect for someone like you.


Strange. I was about to say "Strange, the Android is perfect for someone like you".
 
2012-07-24 06:48:43 PM  

intelligent comment below: Fuggin Bizzy: When I pick up my Droid, I just want to text my wife, check FB to see what my friends are up to, and shoot some birds at some pigs. I honestly have no idea what version of Android I'm running, and I don't care as long as it works. That's how it's beautiful.

Strange, the iPhone is perfect for someone like you.


I guess that's an insult. Is that an insult? Have I been insulted here?

iPhones weren't available on Verizon for a long time, and during that time AT&T didn't have a presence in Montana. But like I said, I'm a tech worker so a smart phone is a must-have accessory, Also, I keep telling myself I'm going to learn to write Android apps for professional development (and then I keep not having time, but that's a different story), I'm a Windows PC user instead of a Mac user, and AFAIK you can't develop for iPhones on a Windows PC. So...ya dig?

I'm very, very technical - I just don't want to work all the farking time.
 
2012-07-24 06:51:15 PM  

schattenteufel: LOL. these comments.
Apple haters gonna hate.
Apple could come out with a solid gold blowjob machine that converted semen to money and ran on nutsweat, and haters would still find something to hate about it.


Yeah, it would crash the price of gold!
 
2012-07-24 06:51:26 PM  
Apple post huge Q2 miss; EPS climbs to $9.32 on $35 billion in revenue

i.imgur.com

and

i.imgur.com
 
2012-07-24 06:53:51 PM  

schattenteufel: LOL. these comments.
Apple haters gonna hate.
Apple could come out with a solid gold blowjob machine that converted semen to money and ran on nutsweat, and haters would still find something to hate about it.


meh, the ability to run emulators basically determines value on the internet
 
2012-07-24 06:59:16 PM  

Fuggin Bizzy: intelligent comment below: Fuggin Bizzy: When I pick up my Droid, I just want to text my wife, check FB to see what my friends are up to, and shoot some birds at some pigs. I honestly have no idea what version of Android I'm running, and I don't care as long as it works. That's how it's beautiful.

Strange, the iPhone is perfect for someone like you.

I guess that's an insult. Is that an insult? Have I been insulted here?

iPhones weren't available on Verizon for a long time, and during that time AT&T didn't have a presence in Montana. But like I said, I'm a tech worker so a smart phone is a must-have accessory, Also, I keep telling myself I'm going to learn to write Android apps for professional development (and then I keep not having time, but that's a different story), I'm a Windows PC user instead of a Mac user, and AFAIK you can't develop for iPhones on a Windows PC. So...ya dig?

I'm very, very technical - I just don't want to work all the farking time.



It's not an insult

An android is for idiots who love spending hours a day updating firmware and all this other jazz. Like downloading apps to customize something

An iPhone just works out of the box, does everything you want it to, and no headache.
 
2012-07-24 07:01:04 PM  
Fuggin Bizzy: ...you can't develop for iPhones on a Windows PC. So...ya dig?

I did not know that. I assumed that since iOS is written in C and any Mac that a developer would be using these days would be a newer Intel based machine, that you could write it on a Windows machine too. Is there some hardware of software reason that I am not aware of that prevents this or is this just Apple being a dick?
 
2012-07-24 07:02:26 PM  
Android is way better than iPhone, the iPhone is for trendy people and people that can't figure out technology.
 
2012-07-24 07:03:45 PM  

intelligent comment below: does everything you want it to


It does less than a droid because Apple is fascist and treats its users like children.
 
2012-07-24 07:04:15 PM  

intelligent comment below: An android is for idiots who love spending hours a day updating firmware and all this other jazz. Like downloading apps to customize something

An iPhone just works out of the box, does everything you want it to, and no headache.


I use an Android and don't spend hours a day updating firmware...the recent ICS update advertised itself on my phone, and took about 20 mins to download and install after I hit "ok." First firmware update I've done in almost a year.

You do realize that a large number of iPhone users "jailbreak" their phones because it does NOT do everything they want it to do, right?

/Had an iPhone
//Happy with my SII
///Could switch back depending on my options next year
 
2012-07-24 07:08:51 PM  

sprgrss: Fuggin Bizzy: FlashHarry: instantwin: [www.heise.de image 550x335]

i don't get it. what costs $99? apples new OS versions have been $29 for a few years now. or is this like the one-button mouse thing?

$29? That's way more than $0.

the only updates that cost money are the .5 up grades. So going from 12.1 to 12.2 is free, but going from 12.0 to 12.5 costs money.

But i see you don't care about that.


For every Apple joke that you might biatch about like this, there are a dozen Windows jokes that are just as untrue.
 
2012-07-24 07:09:52 PM  

intelligent comment below: It's not an insult


Whew. Good to hear, thanks. Hard to tell on the interwebulators.
 
2012-07-24 07:14:31 PM  

Fuggin Bizzy: Do you care what version of firmware your car's computer runs? Do you want to care, or would you rather just drive somewhere to do something? I'm a software developer for a fortune 82 company. Day in and day out it's my job to think about our product versions, the differences between them, and how those differences impact customers.

When I pick up my Droid, I just want to text my wife, check FB to see what my friends are up to, and shoot some birds at some pigs. I honestly have no idea what version of Android I'm running, and I don't care as long as it works. That's how it's beautiful.


What you're saying is that Google hasn't added any compelling features to Android since 2.1 or whenever. If they had, customers would care about getting a version with those features.

The comparison to my car's firmware is silly, because firmware has no user-facing features.
 
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