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2012-07-24 04:47:13 PM  
Might I suggest a conference that doesn't allow pedo molestation coverups in their ranks? Maybe the Big XII would be a better fit for your football needs.

/probably not good enough for the SEC
//probably not smart enough for the PAC 12 and it's a long way away
///and let's face it, the ACC and Big East, well........
 
2012-07-24 04:59:50 PM  
In the awesome words of Desmond Howard

"The players today have a choice. The damned victims didn't."

/I'm shocked there were people still wanting to play there, even prior to the NCAA sanctions
 
2012-07-24 05:09:42 PM  
The players aren't accused of doing anything untoward (at least to kids), right? Why wouldn't you want to play and make your mark on what will essentially be a program looking to make its mark and show it can come back?

People-think is irrational.
 
2012-07-24 05:30:42 PM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Why wouldn't you want to play and make your mark on what will essentially be a program looking to make its mark and show it can come back?


Because it won't be making a comeback for a long time. They've already lost a few top shelf recruits, and recruiting moving forward is not going to get them much.
 
2012-07-24 05:33:02 PM  

WhyteRaven74: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Why wouldn't you want to play and make your mark on what will essentially be a program looking to make its mark and show it can come back?

Because it won't be making a comeback for a long time. They've already lost a few top shelf recruits, and recruiting moving forward is not going to get them much.


So wouldn't it be easier to stand out if you were to play for them, then?
 
2012-07-24 05:36:45 PM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Why wouldn't you want to play and make your mark on what will essentially be a program looking to make its mark and show it can come back?


Think about it like this:

SMU
1988 (the first year of SMU death penalty) - Present
# of NFL Draft picks: 13

LSU
1998 - Present
# of NFL Draft Picks: 95

Texas A&M
1998 - Present
# of NFL Draft Picks: 98
 
2012-07-24 05:49:32 PM  

scottydoesntknow: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Why wouldn't you want to play and make your mark on what will essentially be a program looking to make its mark and show it can come back?

Think about it like this:

SMU
1988 (the first year of SMU death penalty) - Present
# of NFL Draft picks: 13

LSU
1998 - Present
# of NFL Draft Picks: 95

Texas A&M
1998 - Present
# of NFL Draft Picks: 98


But isn't that a self-fulfilling prophecy? I don't go to a school because there's no one good there so no one good goes there?

/don't really care about college sports, is just confusing to me
//a great player will stand out no matter where they play, is how I feel it
///an above average player will stand out more in a below-average program
 
2012-07-24 05:53:24 PM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: scottydoesntknow: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Why wouldn't you want to play and make your mark on what will essentially be a program looking to make its mark and show it can come back?

Think about it like this:

SMU
1988 (the first year of SMU death penalty) - Present
# of NFL Draft picks: 13

LSU
1998 - Present
# of NFL Draft Picks: 95

Texas A&M
1998 - Present
# of NFL Draft Picks: 98

But isn't that a self-fulfilling prophecy? I don't go to a school because there's no one good there so no one good goes there?

/don't really care about college sports, is just confusing to me
//a great player will stand out no matter where they play, is how I feel it
///an above average player will stand out more in a below-average program


Yes, it's a vicious cycle and it will hurt Penn State. SMU's first winning record was in 2009, 21 years after the initial sanctions. Recruits refuse to go to a school that is barely looked at by prospects. A great quarterback won't mean shiat when he doesn't have a receiver that can catch (and vice-versa for receivers). Your D-line won't be able to do shiat if your secondary can't cover the back field.

Football is not a one-man game, and being the best on a shiatty team still means your on a shiatty team. You can be the strongest link, but when every other one is brittle and damn-near broken, you won't accomplish shiat.
 
2012-07-24 05:58:48 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Yes, it's a vicious cycle and it will hurt Penn State. SMU's first winning record was in 2009, 21 years after the initial sanctions. Recruits refuse to go to a school that is barely looked at by prospects. A great quarterback won't mean shiat when he doesn't have a receiver that can catch (and vice-versa for receivers). Your D-line won't be able to do shiat if your secondary can't cover the back field.

Football is not a one-man game, and being the best on a shiatty team still means your on a shiatty team. You can be the strongest link, but when every other one is brittle and damn-near broken, you won't accomplish shiat.


This seems like a really good way for NFL draft folks to miss good players.
 
2012-07-24 06:14:51 PM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: So wouldn't it be easier to stand out if you were to play for them, then?


Players who want to stand out tend to go to programs where the rest of the team is good enough for them to stand out. If you're a quarterback, you're not likely to go to a school with offensive line issues.
This seems like a really good way for NFL draft folks to miss good players.

It sometimes is, but there are people in the NFL who have good eyes for things. By all accounts Brett Favre was a nobody who no one was interested in when he was coming out of college. Except one guy. Who got the Saints to draft him. Then when he went to work for Green Bay he convinced Green Bay to get Favre. The rest is as they say history.
 
2012-07-24 06:27:52 PM  

basemetal: //probably not smart enough for the PAC 12 and it's a long way away


You do realize PSU is a good school, right? Most of their kids are bright enough to get into a lot of schools, including the pac 12 and the thugs they recruit. Hey, if reggie bush can get in then the entire PSU team is good enough to get in.........
 
2012-07-24 06:28:32 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Yes, it's a vicious cycle and it will hurt Penn State. SMU's first winning record was in 2009, 21 years after the initial sanctions. Recruits refuse to go to a school that is barely looked at by prospects. A great quarterback won't mean shiat when he doesn't have a receiver that can catch (and vice-versa for receivers). Your D-line won't be able to do shiat if your secondary can't cover the back field.


Are you really comparing PSU to SMU?
 
2012-07-24 06:35:46 PM  
John "isn't Duke just the greatest thing ever?" Feinstein made a great point on the Jim Rome Show yesterday; he argued that while in the short term, the next 2 recruiting years will render PSU irrelevant, in years 3 and 4, PSU will be able to promise young players playing time.

so if you have a blue chip recruit that is choosing between your LSU / Bama / tOSU / USC / Oregon, they can go there and run the risk of bieng #3 on a depth chart and then every year, have to battle, wherewas if he chooses PSU, he gets to play every Saturday. granted, he won't be going to a bowl game for 2-3 years, but he will play and NFL teams will wtch.


I don't entirely buy his argument but it isn't ridiculous. how many kids transfer due to no playing time? you see that every year.
 
2012-07-24 06:37:32 PM  

WhyteRaven74: It sometimes is, but there are people in the NFL who have good eyes for things. By all accounts Brett Favre was a nobody who no one was interested in when he was coming out of college. Except one guy. Who got the Saints Falcons to draft him. Then when he went to work for Green Bay he convinced Green Bay to get Favre. The rest is as they say history.


Just for the record.
 
2012-07-24 06:37:52 PM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: The players aren't accused of doing anything untoward (at least to kids), right? Why wouldn't you want to play and make your mark on what will essentially be a program looking to make its mark and show it can come back?


Only 15 scholarships a year for the next four years.
Only 65 scholarships total.
Four years of no postseason. No bowl games, no Big Ten championships.

You can make your own mark, sure, but a lot of these kids went to PSU because they wanted to win and win big. That ain't happening now. Any kid signing up today can kiss any chance of seeing January football goodbye - or even December for that matter. And that is going to hurt.

As someone else put it, they've been relegated to Duke North.
 
2012-07-24 06:39:50 PM  

scottydoesntknow: SMU's first winning record was in 2009, 21 years after the initial sanctions.


SMU was also pretty much only good in the first place because they were paying top recruits to go there. They'd won one conference title in like 30 years before they started paying guys off.
 
2012-07-24 06:41:25 PM  

rickythepenguin: so if you have a blue chip recruit that is choosing between your LSU / Bama / tOSU / USC / Oregon, they can go there and run the risk of bieng #3 on a depth chart and then every year, have to battle, wherewas if he chooses PSU, he gets to play every Saturday. granted, he won't be going to a bowl game for 2-3 years, but he will play and NFL teams will wtch.


Except the same kid can do the same thing with Duke, Vandy, Iowa State, Indiana et al and actually have a greater shot at making a bowl game.
 
2012-07-24 06:47:35 PM  

Jim_Tressel's_O-Face: Except the same kid can do the same thing with Duke, Vandy, Iowa State, Indiana et al and actually have a greater shot at making a bowl game.



like i said, i don't entirely buy the argument but it isn't farcical. and PSU will always have a cachet that the Dukes and Vandys of NCAA football will neve rhave.
 
2012-07-24 06:53:23 PM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Why wouldn't you want to play and make your mark on what will essentially be a program looking to make its mark and show it can come back?


Because they won't come back until after you're gone.
 
mjg
2012-07-24 07:01:14 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com

Penn State's locker room in the background.
 
2012-07-24 07:05:25 PM  
Of course it's not the players' fault. That's the whole point - that's why they'll be given the chance to go elsewhere. Which, by all means, they should. That's how you punish the Penn State program.

Hopefully other football programs around the nation will take the cue from this scandal and try to reduce the cultishness of their athletic programs. I believe that this type of scandal could have happened anywhere there's a big athletic program - having pride in your school is fine, but it's not ok once you start to sound like Chrisitian fundies in your zealotry.
 
2012-07-24 07:07:52 PM  

uofacats2004: Just for the record.


Thanks for that.

rickythepenguin: PSU will always have a cachet


Actually after the Sandusky fiasco, it no longer has that.
 
2012-07-24 07:09:57 PM  
so this doesn't work on recruits anymore?

www.vh1.com
COME TO PENN STATE!

/why is joepa so angry?
 
2012-07-24 07:16:04 PM  

WhyteRaven74: rickythepenguin: PSU will always have a cachet

Actually after the Sandusky fiasco, it no longer has that.


Now it is more of a stigma.
 
2012-07-24 07:23:22 PM  

WhyteRaven74: Actually after the Sandusky fiasco, it no longer has that.



i disagree. and i'm not a PSU fan or basher. when i say "linebacker U", who do you think of? that is never going away.

yes, the story's most recent chapter ends on a humongous downer. probably the worst scandal college sports has ever known - Marshall's 1972 plane crash might be similar - but i think PSU still has a draw that other schools will never have.
 
2012-07-24 07:32:26 PM  

uofacats2004: WhyteRaven74: It sometimes is, but there are people in the NFL who have good eyes for things. By all accounts Brett Favre was a nobody who no one was interested in when he was coming out of college. Except one guy. Who got the Saints Falcons to draft him. Then when he went to work for Green Bay he convinced Green Bay to get Favre. The rest is as they say history.

Just for the record.


WhyteRaven74: Thanks for that.


Just for the record the guy who drafted him in atlanta never went to green bay, ron wolf was in oakland at the time and never worked in atlanta, but jerry glanville is a prick and deserves to be shiat on by nfl teams now.

WhyteRaven74: Actually after the Sandusky fiasco, it no longer has that.


That really will depend, step 1 was PSU just accepting the penalties and moving on, step 2 will be to convince star players to stay(I dont think they can, too much at stake for them) and if 2 fails then step 3 will be to be completely positive with fans and incoming players to work through adversity that wasnt caused by the players.

It will be hard but they may have the right guy in their new HC.
 
2012-07-24 07:40:38 PM  

rickythepenguin: WhyteRaven74: Actually after the Sandusky fiasco, it no longer has that.


i disagree. and i'm not a PSU fan or basher. when i say "linebacker U", who do you think of? that is never going away.

yes, the story's most recent chapter ends on a humongous downer. probably the worst scandal college sports has ever known - Marshall's 1972 plane crash might be similar - but i think PSU still has a draw that other schools will never have.


Comparing Marshall to Penn State is kind of tacky. Marshall wasn't an intentional systemic coverup of over a decade of child rape. That's quite a stigma.
 
2012-07-24 07:48:14 PM  

davidphogan: Comparing Marshall to Penn State is kind of tacky. Marshall wasn't an intentional systemic coverup of over a decade of child rape. That's quite a stigma


Let it go man, the guy is in jail, the school has been severely punished, the guys who covered it up are fired, facing jail time, or dead. The current kids and coaches had nothing to do with this, the fans need to just move on so people wont keep saying they are arrogant pricks.

It was comparing it to another decimated program and now I will finally cheer for PSU on saturdays, for some reason I just never liked joepa, I said it in threads for a few years forcing PSU people to ask why and I had no answer. I think he really just reminded me of one of my old coaches who was a complete asshole.
 
2012-07-24 08:01:25 PM  

rickythepenguin: but i think PSU still has a draw that other schools will never have.


A large part of Penn State's draw can be summed up in two words, Joe Paterno. He's gone, his name is in tatters and that's not something you can really overcome in the short term.
 
2012-07-24 08:15:08 PM  

steamingpile: basemetal: //probably not smart enough for the PAC 12 and it's a long way away

You do realize PSU is a good school, right? Most of their kids are bright enough to get into a lot of schools, including the pac 12 and the thugs they recruit. Hey, if reggie bush can get in then the entire PSU team is good enough to get in.........


You do realize that there is no seriousness in my voice.............
 
2012-07-24 08:48:13 PM  

davidphogan: Comparing Marshall to Penn State is kind of tacky. Marshall wasn't an intentional systemic coverup of over a decade of child rape. That's quite a stigma.



i'm not saying there is no stigma. what i am saying is that PSU's "brand", while damaged severely, is intact. once again; "Linebacker U". who do you think of? Florida STate? USC? Notre Dame. DOn't kid yourself.

and it probalby is the worst story to ever hit NCAA. "Scandal" was the wrong word. ANd I don't mean to make a direct comparison of Marshall's tragedy to this; one was intentional and in retrospect, probably 100% preventable, and the other was an unfortunate event.
 
2012-07-24 08:57:20 PM  

scottydoesntknow: In the awesome words of Desmond Howard

"The players today have a choice. The damned victims didn't."

/I'm shocked there were people still wanting to play there, even prior to the NCAA sanctions


That's the part, well one of the parts I don't get. Why the hell would you want to play or even attend there now? The name Penn State, both the athletic program (and more specifically the football team) and the university in general, will forever be linked to permitting and covering up the rape of children.
I'm not saying it's right that the entire university will, for the foreseeable future, be thought of in those terms, but it's exactly the truth.
 
2012-07-24 09:10:50 PM  

mjg: [1.bp.blogspot.com image 616x344]

Penn State's locker room in the background.


To "Victim 4":

Driving home the other night, I had many thoughts. Some happy, some a little sad. As you know, I am very emotional and kind of let everything out. I'm not good at hiding my feelings. I have many "Forrest Gump" qualities and I thought a lot about that more as I was driving home. As you would expect, I cried at that movie.

I remembered Forrest and how he was so naive (oblivious to the world) and not very smart. He was so happy because he wasn't caught up in being anything other than a caring person (I wish that I had more of that in me).

There was his wife and some friends who didn't understand what he had and tried to find their happiness by partying and living the fast life. So many people look for happiness that way. It didn't come for his wife or his friends. They turned away from him and went searching. Unfortunately, they only found hopelessness, despair and became depressed.

Forrest stayed loyal, he didn't know any better. Somehow, people like him are blessed. He never gave up because he cared. When those special people came back to his simple life of love and concern they found hope and true happiness.

As you go through life you may have moments when you think that there is a lifestyle out there somewhere that is the answer. I hope that in the back of your mind will be a memory of simple times, hopefully laughter, joy and warm smiles.

Try not to ever forget all of those who care. Try to remember canoes, squirt guns, water balloons, fighting outside, miniature golf, Polish soccer, basketball, racquetball, football, swimming, studying, lifting, working, golfing, volleyball, kickball, soccer, laughing, hurting, arguing, crying, caring and so much more fun.

Always,

Forrest Jer


/WE ARE
/VERY CREEPY
 
2012-07-24 09:42:17 PM  
"When asked about retirement, Joe Paterno once said that he would not, because it would leave college football in the hands of "the Jackie Sherrills and the Barry Switzers". Paterno apologized to Switzer for the comment, but wrote in his book that he "didnt give a damn about what Sherrill felt."

LOLOLOLOLOL!!!
 
2012-07-24 10:30:51 PM  

WhyteRaven74: A large part of Penn State's draw can be summed up in two words, Joe Paterno. He's gone, his name is in tatters and that's not something you can really overcome in the short term.


Again, if they can build the team back up that uniform holds a draw for a lot of people and will still get kids into the school, you keep arguing college football yet you keep proving over and over again that you know nothing about the game or its traditions. The team will survive only if they have the right man in charge it can be back in 5-6 years stronger than ever but we wont know that until then.

basemetal: You do realize that there is no seriousness in my voice.............


With so many pac douchey fans on the board I can never tell.
 
2012-07-24 10:50:50 PM  

steamingpile: Let it go man, the guy is in jail, the school has been severely punished, the guys who covered it up are fired, facing jail time, or dead. The current kids and coaches had nothing to do with this, the fans need to just move on so people wont keep saying they are arrogant pricks.


They had a lot to do with it. They played for a team that decided the football program was more important than report child rape. That's a big problem with the culture they agreed to participate in.

rickythepenguin: "Linebacker U". who do you think of?


I think WE ARE CHILD RAPE.
 
2012-07-24 11:09:38 PM  

rickythepenguin: WhyteRaven74: Actually after the Sandusky fiasco, it no longer has that.


i disagree. and i'm not a PSU fan or basher. when i say "linebacker U", who do you think of? that is never going away.



I think of Miami when I think of linebackers.

Penn State was Linebacker U once upon a time.
 
2012-07-25 12:15:37 AM  

steamingpile: scottydoesntknow: Yes, it's a vicious cycle and it will hurt Penn State. SMU's first winning record was in 2009, 21 years after the initial sanctions. Recruits refuse to go to a school that is barely looked at by prospects. A great quarterback won't mean shiat when he doesn't have a receiver that can catch (and vice-versa for receivers). Your D-line won't be able to do shiat if your secondary can't cover the back field.

Are you really comparing PSU to SMU?


It's pretty mean to SMU.
 
2012-07-25 12:21:05 AM  

Krymson Tyde: scottydoesntknow: In the awesome words of Desmond Howard

"The players today have a choice. The damned victims didn't."

/I'm shocked there were people still wanting to play there, even prior to the NCAA sanctions

That's the part, well one of the parts I don't get. Why the hell would you want to play or even attend there now? The name Penn State, both the athletic program (and more specifically the football team) and the university in general, will forever be linked to permitting and covering up the rape of children.
I'm not saying it's right that the entire university will, for the foreseeable future, be thought of in those terms, but it's exactly the truth.


I'm 18, just starting my college career. I'm good enough to play at Penn State. No farking way I'm playing at Penn State, where my name will be associated with kid rape. 18-year-old are dumb, but few are that dumb.

Why do they even have a freshman academic class? Who the fark would go there even as a student?

/setting aside, of course, folks from the area - but is there anyone from Virginia or Montana saying "Yep, Penn State, that's exactly where I want to go to college!"
 
2012-07-25 12:52:30 AM  

PowerSlacker: rickythepenguin: WhyteRaven74: Actually after the Sandusky fiasco, it no longer has that.


i disagree. and i'm not a PSU fan or basher. when i say "linebacker U", who do you think of? that is never going away.


I think of Miami when I think of linebackers.

Penn State was Linebacker U once upon a time.


QFT. Penn State hasn't been Linebacker U since Notre Dame was relevant.
 
2012-07-25 12:57:37 AM  

davidphogan: rickythepenguin: "Linebacker U". who do you think of?

I think WE ARE CHILD RAPE.


Considering who built up Penn State's reputation as Linebacker U, I'm gonna have to say "this."
 
2012-07-25 08:14:32 AM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: WhyteRaven74: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Why wouldn't you want to play and make your mark on what will essentially be a program looking to make its mark and show it can come back?

Because it won't be making a comeback for a long time. They've already lost a few top shelf recruits, and recruiting moving forward is not going to get them much.

So wouldn't it be easier to stand out if you were to play for them, then?


If it were baseball sure, but even NFL level talent is going to struggle on a team with no support. The best QB isn't going to generate numbers with a terrible line and stone hand receivers. The best running backs will go nowhere when the box is stacked because the defense knows the passing game is a joke. The best tackle isn't going to shine if the center is beaten badly more plays than not.
 
2012-07-25 08:52:16 AM  

TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: scottydoesntknow: TheBeastOfYuccaFlats: Why wouldn't you want to play and make your mark on what will essentially be a program looking to make its mark and show it can come back?

Think about it like this:

SMU
1988 (the first year of SMU death penalty) - Present
# of NFL Draft picks: 13

LSU
1998 - Present
# of NFL Draft Picks: 95

Texas A&M
1998 - Present
# of NFL Draft Picks: 98

But isn't that a self-fulfilling prophecy? I don't go to a school because there's no one good there so no one good goes there?

/don't really care about college sports, is just confusing to me
//a great player will stand out no matter where they play, is how I feel it
///an above average player will stand out more in a below-average program


Perhaps a better way to explain it would be a discussion of modern high-level (Good Division I and NFL) strategy.

The goal on any given play is for both offense and defense is to create a mismatch of some sort and utilize that mismatch to advance the ball. The mismatch can be talent (Tim Tebow's college career is basically a mismatch in talent between defensive LB corps and him--Calvin Johnson is one of the few talent mismatches at the NFL level), but that's quite rare at even the Division I level. So the mismatch is usually driven by misdirection . In otherwords by showing a bias toward run or pass, it's possible to either cause the defense to overcommit, or defenders to hesitate resulting in enough of a mismatch to complete a play (the narrow windows created by the latter are why it's so tremendously difficult to find very good Quarterbacks at the NFL level). The importance of misdirection is a big factor in why tight ends have become a huge part of the NFL passing game (they create a difficult to cover threat to either receive the ball or block passably well in a running play).

Lacking even a small part of the game, makes this misdirection nearly impossible. This can be seen in the last superbowl, where the Patriot's tight end (who had created been responsible for many mismatches during the regular season) was quickly exposed to be injured, leaving the Giants' defense to only apply a token coverage effort (and not needing to worry nearly as much about pass/run threats created by him).

At the Division I level, a good player will struggle mightily because even if they could personally create mismatches, if the rest of the team cannot creat a couple of other legitimate threats, it will be impossible to beat the focused effort of the opponents. As a result much of recruiting is a game of signaling to good potential recruits that the entire team will be made up of players at least as good. That's why recuiting (and thereby reputation) is so important at the college level (thus creating the incentives to cover up any potential issues).
 
2012-07-25 10:01:11 AM  

davidphogan: steamingpile: Let it go man, the guy is in jail, the school has been severely punished, the guys who covered it up are fired, facing jail time, or dead. The current kids and coaches had nothing to do with this, the fans need to just move on so people wont keep saying they are arrogant pricks.

They had a lot to do with it. They played for a team that decided the football program was more important than report child rape. That's a big problem with the culture they agreed to participate in.

rickythepenguin: "Linebacker U". who do you think of?

I think WE ARE CHILD RAPE.


So either you're trolling or blaming kids who went there not knowing about the scandal and cover up.

And to be honest, it appears the bigger problem was joepa talking people out of turning him in.
 
2012-07-25 10:02:35 AM  

TheLopper: steamingpile: scottydoesntknow: Yes, it's a vicious cycle and it will hurt Penn State. SMU's first winning record was in 2009, 21 years after the initial sanctions. Recruits refuse to go to a school that is barely looked at by prospects. A great quarterback won't mean shiat when he doesn't have a receiver that can catch (and vice-versa for receivers). Your D-line won't be able to do shiat if your secondary can't cover the back field.

Are you really comparing PSU to SMU?

It's pretty mean to SMU.


No, PSU can recover from this, it took SMU 20 years to recover from their fark ups.
 
2012-07-25 11:39:46 AM  

rickythepenguin: davidphogan: C


"Linebacker U". who do you think of? Florida STate? USC? Notre Dame. DOn't kid yourself.

.


You are welcome

i50.tinypic.com
 
2012-07-26 07:55:48 AM  

A Fark Handle: so this doesn't work on recruits anymore?

[www.vh1.com image 250x140]
COME TO PENN STATE!

/why is joepa so angry?


That was such a weird ad. I think he's enraged that a recruit would force him to ask, or something.
 
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