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(MSNBC)   Former Penn State president claims he, too, was molested as a child, thus putting a new spin on the "hey, some of my friends are black" line   (openchannel.msnbc.msn.com) divider line 67
    More: Repeat, Penn State, Jerry Sandusky, Mike McQueary, bad publicity, Tim Curley, State College, standby, State President of South Africa  
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2012-07-24 03:46:31 PM
Well then. That makes it all OK, right?
 
2012-07-24 03:48:45 PM
Smarmy prick. Never liked that guy.
 
2012-07-24 03:50:01 PM
"Repeat" tag?
 
2012-07-24 03:51:35 PM
No, that's full "Hey, I am black."
 
2012-07-24 03:53:36 PM
Did they teach anyone at that school, in it's long and storied history, how to STFU and let good enough alone when you're farked? Honestly, are these people that stupid they think they will find some word, or phrase, that will turn this around and change public perception? Here's what you are working against, Spanier. Everyone knows you helped hide, and thereby enable a child rapist to continue raping children. Shut your farking mouth unless you have an apology spewing out of it, you cock!
 
2012-07-24 03:54:12 PM
So...if he's been in the place of the poor kids who were raped...shouldn't he have had even more compassion and done the right thing?
 
2012-07-24 03:54:47 PM
Nothing can surprise me anymore about this saga. A headline tomorrow about Tim Curley touring Mos Eisley covering songs by the Pet Shop Boys on ukelele would barely register a "meh".
 
2012-07-24 03:55:04 PM

rudemix: Did they teach anyone at that school, in it's long and storied history, how to STFU and let good enough alone when you're farked? Honestly, are these people that stupid they think they will find some word, or phrase, that will turn this around and change public perception? Here's what you are working against, Spanier. Everyone knows you helped hide, and thereby enable a child rapist to continue raping children. Shut your farking mouth unless you have an apology spewing out of it, you cock!


I am uncertain as to your meaning. Please be more direct.
 
2012-07-24 03:55:19 PM

rudemix: Did they teach anyone at that school, in it's long and storied history, how to STFU and let good enough alone when you're farked? Honestly, are these people that stupid they think they will find some word, or phrase, that will turn this around and change public perception? Here's what you are working against, Spanier. Everyone knows you helped hide, and thereby enable a child rapist to continue raping children. Shut your farking mouth unless you have an apology spewing out of it, you cock!


This. Just shut the fark up and let the dust settles.

Next the Paterno family will file suit against the school because of the statue or demand some of their donation money back.
 
2012-07-24 03:56:27 PM
If Rick Santorum hadn't gone there, they'd have to give him an honorary degree.
 
2012-07-24 03:57:05 PM
It just keeps on coming, doesn't it?
 
2012-07-24 03:58:01 PM

MAYORBOB: It just keeps on coming, doesn't it?


That's how it all started.
 
2012-07-24 03:59:11 PM
Do unto others what has been done to you
I'm treading water,
I need to sleep a while.
My lamb and martyr, you look so precious.
 
2012-07-24 04:01:13 PM
He should have said it was Sandusky.
 
2012-07-24 04:01:17 PM
The clusterf*ck of that school is beyond words.
 
2012-07-24 04:02:13 PM
An apology from one of these dickheads would go a long way towards my perception of him.
But I doubt we will ever see that. Just more excuses and bullshiat. That's what's wrong with the people.
They still feel like they did nothing wrong.
Crazy.
 
2012-07-24 04:07:34 PM

uofacats2004: An apology from one of these dickheads would go a long way towards my perception of him.
But I doubt we will ever see that. Just more excuses and bullshiat. That's what's wrong with the people.
They still feel like they did nothing wrong.
Crazy.



He's probably worried about being prosecuted in which case any apology could be used as evidence (admission against interest).
 
2012-07-24 04:08:55 PM

uofacats2004: An apology from one of these dickheads would go a long way towards my perception of him.
But I doubt we will ever see that. Just more excuses and bullshiat. That's what's wrong with the people.
They still feel like they did nothing wrong.
Crazy.


Is it odd that I read that (knowing what you meant) but imagined you posting that on a PSU football board and getting the response "Why do those bastards get to remain anonymous; we need to find out who is ruining JoePa's name"

//honestly, most of the people I've talked with are reasonable
///just not the people they keep putting on tv which is what made me think of it
 
2012-07-24 04:09:05 PM

IAmRight: No, that's full "Hey, I am black."


upload.wikimedia.org

/sees what you did there
 
2012-07-24 04:09:14 PM
You are an evil SOB, subby.

/I LOL'd
 
2012-07-24 04:09:22 PM
Next: Paterno molested Sandusky when Sandusky was a player.
 
2012-07-24 04:10:43 PM
FTA: "He doesn't specify what kind of abuse he suffered, but he has previously described being beaten by his father; his attorney said Spanier was not referring to sexual abuse."


He shouldn't have spilled paint in the garage.
 
2012-07-24 04:10:57 PM
."Hey, I know how horrible it is bring raped as child, but I cared more about the football program than making sure someone else didn't suffer as I did"
 
2012-07-24 04:12:56 PM

rudemix: Did they teach anyone at that school, in it's long and storied history, how to STFU and let good enough alone when you're farked?


That's how they got INTO this mess...
 
2012-07-24 04:14:00 PM

JK47: uofacats2004: An apology from one of these dickheads would go a long way towards my perception of him.
But I doubt we will ever see that. Just more excuses and bullshiat. That's what's wrong with the people.
They still feel like they did nothing wrong.
Crazy.


He's probably worried about being prosecuted in which case any apology could be used as evidence (admission against interest).


Yep, he's looking at serious time, quite possibly spending the rest of his life in prison.
 
2012-07-24 04:14:43 PM

MugzyBrown: Next: Paterno molested Sandusky when Sandusky was a player.


Whoa...talk about mind blown.
 
2012-07-24 04:16:59 PM
Is there anybody in Pennsylvania Sandusky hasn't touched?

Joking aside, this guy is screwed, as there are a lot of e-mails that were exchanged with him over this, but oddly enough, none he forwarded to the BoT.

He wasn't actually sexually abused. At this point, he seems to think a defendent's testimony holds more weight than, you know, RECORDED ELECTRONIC CORRESPONDENCE. Say anything you want, but it doesn't change history.

Spanier deserves to burn.
 
2012-07-24 04:24:29 PM

MugzyBrown: Next: Paterno molested Sandusky when Sandusky was a player.


f.cl.ly

...even for Paterno by that time.

In all honesty, it's very possible Sandusky got busted as a player for diddling some boys by the local police; since the culture was to keep players' indiscretions within the program, such a report would probably have been handed to Paterno as assistant coach to handle for discipline. Child molesters usually start early in life (often due to abuse they suffered themselves) - even before they become adults.

Another poster had an interesting theory about the inexplicable involvement of Paterno and others in Second Mile... that it was a fraudulent tax shelter, which meant Sandusky had them over a barrel. That would explain their continued support of the charity (and by implication, material support of his further child rape) without bringing in darker motivations.
 
2012-07-24 04:26:07 PM

rudemix: Honestly, are these people that stupid they think they will find some word, or phrase, that will turn this around and change public perception?


yes
 
2012-07-24 04:32:36 PM

VimFuego: So...if he's been in the place of the poor kids who were raped...shouldn't he have had even more compassion and done the right thing?


Unless his is one of the unfortunate ones that perpetuated the abuse...
 
2012-07-24 04:32:46 PM

LesserEvil: Another poster had an interesting theory about the inexplicable involvement of Paterno and others in Second Mile... that it was a fraudulent tax shelter, which meant Sandusky had them over a barrel. That would explain their continued support of the charity (and by implication, material support of his further child rape) without bringing in darker motivations.


And it would actually make a little bit of sense, rather than the other comments.
 
2012-07-24 04:37:49 PM
so how does this tie into the mike mcqueary was molested by sandusky theory? after all, mcqueary was a state college kid. what if a sudden flashback to the molestation is why he didn't intervene when he walked in on sandusky, and instead ran home to is daddy.
 
2012-07-24 04:41:27 PM

IAmRight: LesserEvil: Another poster had an interesting theory about the inexplicable involvement of Paterno and others in Second Mile... that it was a fraudulent tax shelter, which meant Sandusky had them over a barrel. That would explain their continued support of the charity (and by implication, material support of his further child rape) without bringing in darker motivations.

And it would actually make a little bit of sense, rather than the other comments.


That would be convenient. Too convenient for all the Paterno worshippers. Too bad theories are not really anything to get excited about.
 
2012-07-24 04:43:31 PM

A Fark Handle: so how does this tie into the mike mcqueary was molested by sandusky theory? after all, mcqueary was a state college kid. what if a sudden flashback to the molestation is why he didn't intervene when he walked in on sandusky, and instead ran home to is daddy.


Possible, but prob only if McQueary was an underprivileged youth. Sandusky liked the soft targets.
 
2012-07-24 04:46:10 PM
This just gets crazier by the day... Apparently Freeh is crooked too. Is anyone involved in this legit?

Link
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Killer Cars is right about nothing being surprising with this mess. Jimmy Hoffa is probably under the stadium turf.
 
2012-07-24 04:46:20 PM

Cymbal: IAmRight: LesserEvil: Another poster had an interesting theory about the inexplicable involvement of Paterno and others in Second Mile... that it was a fraudulent tax shelter, which meant Sandusky had them over a barrel. That would explain their continued support of the charity (and by implication, material support of his further child rape) without bringing in darker motivations.

And it would actually make a little bit of sense, rather than the other comments.

That would be convenient. Too convenient for all the Paterno worshippers. Too bad theories are not really anything to get excited about.


not sure how it's convenient. it changes the motivation for a decade plus of concealing and enabling a child rapist from "we must protect football/self/power/image/a friend/whatever" to "we must protect our illegal tax fraud scheme." either way joepa is exactly not winning with honor.
 
2012-07-24 04:53:13 PM

A Fark Handle: not sure how it's convenient. it changes the motivation for a decade plus of concealing and enabling a child rapist from "we must protect football/self/power/image/a friend/whatever" to "we must protect our illegal tax fraud scheme." either way joepa is exactly not winning with honor.


It's very, very important to some people that everything be blamed on football. Just like when the math teacher down the street gets caught being a pedophile, it's this attitude that math was too important that kept anyone from turning him in.
 
2012-07-24 04:54:10 PM

A Fark Handle: Cymbal: IAmRight: LesserEvil: Another poster had an interesting theory about the inexplicable involvement of Paterno and others in Second Mile... that it was a fraudulent tax shelter, which meant Sandusky had them over a barrel. That would explain their continued support of the charity (and by implication, material support of his further child rape) without bringing in darker motivations.

And it would actually make a little bit of sense, rather than the other comments.

That would be convenient. Too convenient for all the Paterno worshippers. Too bad theories are not really anything to get excited about.

not sure how it's convenient. it changes the motivation for a decade plus of concealing and enabling a child rapist from "we must protect football/self/power/image/a friend/whatever" to "we must protect our illegal tax fraud scheme." either way joepa is exactly not winning with honor.


Covering up sex abuse is far worse than covering up tax shelters you moron. If he was being blackmailed by Sandusky the public perception of Paterno would be far more favorable. He would be seen as a victim instead of a rape enabler.
 
2012-07-24 04:55:43 PM

Cymbal: Covering up sex abuse is far worse than covering up tax shelters you moron. If he was being blackmailed by Sandusky the public perception of Paterno would be far more favorable. He would be seen as a victim instead of a rape enabler.


In either scenario he's covering up sex abuse, you moron.
 
2012-07-24 04:57:01 PM
About a week ago somebody submitted this link to TotalFark but it wasn't greenlighted to the liters. Link

Spanier was the ultimate NCAA busybody. He sat on and later chaired the organization's Board of Directors, a position arguably more powerful than NCAA president. He was on the high-level NCAA management council. He chaired the BCS Oversight Committee. He was everywhere over the last decade and a half, the epitome of the faceless bureaucrat that churns out all those lopsided NCAA rules and bizarre statutes in an effort to exert an iron grip on the system.

The NCAA is often vilified. It isn't the workers at the Indianapolis headquarters who deserve scorn. It's the Spanier types, the presidents and commissioners who write the rules one committee meeting at a time (usually from a Florida beachfront hotel). He was a model of self-interest, distorted ethics and misplaced authority, much of it derived from the false concept that Penn State football operated on a higher ethical level than the rest of the country.

"He'd always lean on the Penn State thing," said one administrator who served alongside Spanier on NCAA committees. "He always made the Penn State part known. Like, 'Well, we do it within the rules and still win at Penn State, at Penn State football. Why can't you? Why lower the bar? What's wrong with you?' "

 
2012-07-24 04:58:46 PM

IAmRight: A Fark Handle: not sure how it's convenient. it changes the motivation for a decade plus of concealing and enabling a child rapist from "we must protect football/self/power/image/a friend/whatever" to "we must protect our illegal tax fraud scheme." either way joepa is exactly not winning with honor.

It's very, very important to some people that everything be blamed on football. Just like when the math teacher down the street gets caught being a pedophile, it's this attitude that math was too important that kept anyone from turning him in.


Here we go.

Math is not college football, but if it did have millions and millions of dollars tied to it, you bet your sweet ass you would have coverups there too.
 
2012-07-24 04:59:46 PM

Cymbal: Covering up sex abuse is far worse than covering up tax shelters you moron.


Yes.

Cymbal: He would be seen as a victim instead of a rape enabler.


No. He'd be seen as a fraud like he is now... just a different kind of fraud. And if we've learned anything since this story broke, these 4 screwballs don't seem to be the most reasonable bunch anyway... so they cover up the abuse rather than narc on Jerry.
 
2012-07-24 05:02:26 PM

IAmRight: Cymbal: Covering up sex abuse is far worse than covering up tax shelters you moron. If he was being blackmailed by Sandusky the public perception of Paterno would be far more favorable. He would be seen as a victim instead of a rape enabler.

In either scenario he's covering up sex abuse, you moron.


Yes but only one scenario is he being blackmailed. That changes everything. I'm not saying its right, but most people would view him as a victim of Sandusky's evil plans.
 
2012-07-24 05:04:55 PM

Cymbal: Yes but only one scenario is he being blackmailed. That changes everything. I'm not saying its right, but most people would view him as a victim of Sandusky's evil plans.


Who in their right mind would view Paterno as a victim for using a tax shelter and deeming it more important to cover up sex abuse because of it?
Besides the idiotic JoePalogists?
 
2012-07-24 05:12:10 PM

Cymbal: Math is not college football, but if it did have millions and millions of dollars tied to it, you bet your sweet ass you would have coverups there too.


Exactly. Glad you're willing to admit it had to do with money, not football. Now you're seeming smarter.
 
2012-07-24 05:12:43 PM
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2012-07-24 05:20:42 PM
"his attorney said Spanier was not referring to sexual abuse."

I don't want to sympathize with this a-hole. Just noting that either everyone got trolled, or that everyone who wanted to talk about this doesn't feel the need to read these stupid articles anymore.

Or that subby sucks.
 
2012-07-24 05:26:36 PM

thecpt: "his attorney said Spanier was not referring to sexual abuse."

I don't want to sympathize with this a-hole. Just noting that either everyone got trolled, or that everyone who wanted to talk about this doesn't feel the need to read these stupid articles anymore.

Or that subby sucks.


I already included that tidbit in my comment.
 
2012-07-24 05:26:56 PM

Cymbal: IAmRight: Cymbal: Covering up sex abuse is far worse than covering up tax shelters you moron. If he was being blackmailed by Sandusky the public perception of Paterno would be far more favorable. He would be seen as a victim instead of a rape enabler.

In either scenario he's covering up sex abuse, you moron.

Yes but only one scenario is he being blackmailed. That changes everything. I'm not saying its right, but most people would view him as a victim of Sandusky's evil plans.


The only possible way I could see the perception changing is toward an even more negative view toward Joe Paterno. Think about what you're saying. He helped cover up child rape so that he could keep a fradulent tax shelter in tact, thereby exposing more children to the possibility of being raped.

On what planet does that improve Paterno's image?
 
2012-07-24 05:36:24 PM

IamSoSmart_S_M_R_T: thecpt: "his attorney said Spanier was not referring to sexual abuse."

I don't want to sympathize with this a-hole. Just noting that either everyone got trolled, or that everyone who wanted to talk about this doesn't feel the need to read these stupid articles anymore.

Or that subby sucks.

I already included that tidbit in my comment.


And so you did. And you were the only one. We could start a club.
 
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