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(Huffington Post)   You'll never guess what network interviewed a small small-business owner about how Obama's taking credit for her lemonade stand   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 175
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2012-07-24 02:19:51 PM  
Children interviewing children. It's like Sesame Street gone mad.
 
2012-07-24 02:21:16 PM  
Charge them for using the Public streets.
 
2012-07-24 02:22:09 PM  
Fox News has finally managed to find some business experts who can speak at an intellectual level understood by the average Fox News viewer.
 
2012-07-24 02:23:31 PM  
On Tuesday, "Fox and Friends" co-host Brian Kilmeade turned to four-year old Eliza and seven-year old Clara Sutton to ask if they enjoyed working 12 hour shifts in the textile mills, and if they wanted the mean ol' government to put them out of work
 
2012-07-24 02:24:10 PM  
I love how Focks has no trouble pulling a frankly retarded stunt like this, but Michelle Obama's anti child-obesity initiative is somehow "indoctrinating children with partisan rhetoric."

I seriously have no idea how these hypocritical assholes sleep at night.
 
2012-07-24 02:28:11 PM  
Is the lemonade stand located in a public sidewalk?

Do any of their costumers use public roads to reach them?

Did they learn the math to calculate their costs and profits at a public school?

Did their "investors" (aka mom and dad) attend a public school or university in order to attain the educational level that was key to securing their current employment and thus raising the capital to invest in the lemonade stand?

Are lemons purchased at a supermarket (can we then assume those lemons reached the supermarket in a truck that drove on a public roads)? Did their parents drive on similar roads to reach the supermarket?
 
2012-07-24 02:29:22 PM  
Not too far off from this headline nearly 20 years ago:

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2012-07-24 02:39:30 PM  
What's sadder- that a national news network would do something like this, or that the news network would think it is somehow a legitimate story?
 
2012-07-24 02:43:05 PM  
I hope in honor of their Fox guests, the girls had a special pitcher of lemonade that was made with neither government help nor interference. And I hope the Fox crew spent the whole ride back to the studio battling "freedom diarrhea" from the fetid water and bug-infested citrus.
 
2012-07-24 02:53:32 PM  
I can't imagine that this is anything but satire. But I don't watch Fox, so I wouldn't know when they are being serious.
 
2012-07-24 02:53:33 PM  

kbronsito: Is the lemonade stand located in a public sidewalk?

Do any of their costumers use public roads to reach them?

Did they learn the math to calculate their costs and profits at a public school?

Did their "investors" (aka mom and dad) attend a public school or university in order to attain the educational level that was key to securing their current employment and thus raising the capital to invest in the lemonade stand?

Are lemons purchased at a supermarket (can we then assume those lemons reached the supermarket in a truck that drove on a public roads)? Did their parents drive on similar roads to reach the supermarket?


Were the lemons grown on an orchard owned by someone who receives farm subsidies? Was the sugar the result of corporate welfare?

juanitajean.com
 
2012-07-24 03:12:29 PM  

gimmegimme: kbronsito: Is the lemonade stand located in a public sidewalk?

Do any of their costumers use public roads to reach them?

Did they learn the math to calculate their costs and profits at a public school?

Did their "investors" (aka mom and dad) attend a public school or university in order to attain the educational level that was key to securing their current employment and thus raising the capital to invest in the lemonade stand?

Are lemons purchased at a supermarket (can we then assume those lemons reached the supermarket in a truck that drove on a public roads)? Did their parents drive on similar roads to reach the supermarket?

Were the lemons grown on an orchard owned by someone who receives farm subsidies? Was the sugar the result of corporate welfare?

[juanitajean.com image 548x397]


Thank you. This was my first thought. Even here in Arizona, where a lot of people have lemon trees- the water is brought in via a network of dams and canals. The roads they'd sell on are paved. The police that protect them from evil limeade terrorists are around. On and on it goes.
 
2012-07-24 03:13:54 PM  
i159.photobucket.com
 
2012-07-24 03:14:02 PM  
Look, I get Obama is saying government built the roads and bridges (and they funded those with tax dollars collected from businesses and workers). But if all you needed to be a successful business was to throw a road in front of it, why are so many businesses unsuccessful? Take an unsuccessful business. It is just sitting there. All we need to do is throw a road and bridge in front of it and all of a sudden it will be successful? Nope. Absolutely not.
 
2012-07-24 03:19:34 PM  

SlothB77: Look, I get Obama is saying government built the roads and bridges (and they funded those with tax dollars collected from businesses and workers). But if all you needed to be a successful business was to throw a road in front of it, why are so many businesses unsuccessful? Take an unsuccessful business. It is just sitting there. All we need to do is throw a road and bridge in front of it and all of a sudden it will be successful? Nope. Absolutely not.


Who says that is all you need? Who is simplifying this argument to suggest this?
 
2012-07-24 03:20:19 PM  

SlothB77: Look, I get Obama is saying government built the roads and bridges (and they funded those with tax dollars collected from businesses and workers). But if all you needed to be a successful business was to throw a road in front of it, why are so many businesses unsuccessful? Take an unsuccessful business. It is just sitting there. All we need to do is throw a road and bridge in front of it and all of a sudden it will be successful? Nope. Absolutely not.


Take a successful business and remove the road to it. Will it all of a sudden become unsuccessful? Probably.
 
2012-07-24 03:20:57 PM  
Parents who drag their kids into their politics should have them removed for abuse
 
2012-07-24 03:22:03 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Who says that is all you need? Who is simplifying this argument to suggest this?


The mysterious voice in the cornfield from "Field of Dreams", duh
 
2012-07-24 03:22:37 PM  

SlothB77: Look, I get Obama is saying government built the roads and bridges (and they funded those with tax dollars collected from businesses and workers). But if all you needed to be a successful business was to throw a road in front of it, why are so many businesses unsuccessful? Take an unsuccessful business. It is just sitting there. All we need to do is throw a road and bridge in front of it and all of a sudden it will be successful? Nope. Absolutely not.


You should have stopped after your first sentence. What would American farming be without government subsidy? What about the subsidies to wildly profitable oil companies? Further, I'll bet that oil companies love knowing that they can move their tankers through safe American waters and dock them in dredged, developed American harbors. Could people use Microsoft software if the American electricity supply were not regulated to ensure its stability?
 
2012-07-24 03:22:54 PM  
What Obama was doing in Roanoke, and what he will continue to do is delegitimize the success and hard work and risk incurred by business owners. All Obama & Co. have to do is convince slightly more than half the country entreprenuers did not earn their wealth. Then enough people in this country will support taxing entreprenuers out of existence. Then everyone will be equal and everything will be fair. Sure, instead of bringing the poor out of poverty it will bring the rich into poverty, still, everyone will be equal and everything will be fair. That's what they want. So you have to convince enough people the rich really didn't work hard to get what they got. The rich really aren't that smart. You convince people the rich are only successful because someone else helped them, then they kept all the spoils for themselves.

And as you can tell from reading Fark, Obama is very convincing. People don't believe successful entreprenuers are hard working or smart or deserving of the money they earned.
 
2012-07-24 03:25:52 PM  

SlothB77: What Obama was doing in Roanoke, and what he will continue to do is delegitimize the success and hard work and risk incurred by business owners. All Obama & Co. have to do is convince slightly more than half the country entreprenuers did not earn their wealth. Then enough people in this country will support taxing entreprenuers out of existence. Then everyone will be equal and everything will be fair. Sure, instead of bringing the poor out of poverty it will bring the rich into poverty, still, everyone will be equal and everything will be fair. That's what they want. So you have to convince enough people the rich really didn't work hard to get what they got. The rich really aren't that smart. You convince people the rich are only successful because someone else helped them, then they kept all the spoils for themselves.

And as you can tell from reading Fark, Obama is very convincing. People don't believe successful entreprenuers are hard working or smart or deserving of the money they earned.


You're totally missing the point. Is it deliberate?
 
2012-07-24 03:31:52 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Who says that is all you need? Who is simplifying this argument to suggest this?


The fact is, five people open five restaurants on a road. Two go out of business. Three become successful because they provide great food with great service in a pleasant atmosphere at a reasonable price. Let's demonize them. Their success can only be attributed to the help they got, the collective and the road. And because of that, they should pay more taxes, which will be redistributed by the government to the two restaurants on the same road that failed.
 
2012-07-24 03:34:37 PM  

gimmegimme: SlothB77: Look, I get Obama is saying government built the roads and bridges (and they funded those with tax dollars collected from businesses and workers). But if all you needed to be a successful business was to throw a road in front of it, why are so many businesses unsuccessful? Take an unsuccessful business. It is just sitting there. All we need to do is throw a road and bridge in front of it and all of a sudden it will be successful? Nope. Absolutely not.

You should have stopped after your first sentence. What would American farming be without government subsidy? What about the subsidies to wildly profitable oil companies? Further, I'll bet that oil companies love knowing that they can move their tankers through safe American waters and dock them in dredged, developed American harbors. Could people use Microsoft software if the American electricity supply were not regulated to ensure its stability?


Our (government run) court system is one of the keys to our thriving business sector. Even if you have never been cheated, you can conduct business in this country with a sense that if something goes wrong you can go to our courts. Even if a judge get paid off by whomever cheated you... there are ways to appeal and there are levels of oversight that you can reach out to report a corrupt court official.

If you do business in a country with a corrupt court system, then you can basically only work with people that you personally know and trust to avoid being cheated. This means that you may not necessarily be able to buy the inputs for your business at the best cost because you can't trust that a competitor that you do not know that offers a better deal is honest and you would have no recourse if you are cheated. Being forced to do business only with people you personally know and trust cost enterprises in the developing world a ton of money every year.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-07-24 03:34:49 PM  

SlothB77: Look, I get Obama is saying government built the roads and bridges (and they funded those with tax dollars collected from businesses and workers). But if all you needed to be a successful business was to throw a road in front of it, why are so many businesses unsuccessful? Take an unsuccessful business. It is just sitting there. All we need to do is throw a road and bridge in front of it and all of a sudden it will be successful? Nope. Absolutely not.


You need to work on your troll-fu.

This will help: Link

I think you were going for a fallacy of composition there, but it could have been a straw man.
 
2012-07-24 03:36:40 PM  

SlothB77: What Obama was doing in Roanoke, and what he will continue to do is delegitimize the success and hard work and risk incurred by business owners. All Obama & Co. have to do is convince slightly more than half the country entreprenuers did not earn their wealth. Then enough people in this country will support taxing entreprenuers out of existence. Then everyone will be equal and everything will be fair. Sure, instead of bringing the poor out of poverty it will bring the rich into poverty, still, everyone will be equal and everything will be fair. That's what they want. So you have to convince enough people the rich really didn't work hard to get what they got. The rich really aren't that smart. You convince people the rich are only successful because someone else helped them, then they kept all the spoils for themselves.

And as you can tell from reading Fark, Obama is very convincing. People don't believe successful entreprenuers are hard working or smart or deserving of the money they earned.


No he's not and you know it. He's saying that the Republican mantra since Reagan has been that government is always and always will be the problem is incorrect and that government can help people succeed. Further, everyone has a stake in making America work. We all pay for roads, utilities, services, etc.

Now back to the usual Solyndra, ACORN, Muslim derp
 
2012-07-24 03:37:49 PM  

Nadie_AZ: SlothB77: Look, I get Obama is saying government built the roads and bridges (and they funded those with tax dollars collected from businesses and workers). But if all you needed to be a successful business was to throw a road in front of it, why are so many businesses unsuccessful? Take an unsuccessful business. It is just sitting there. All we need to do is throw a road and bridge in front of it and all of a sudden it will be successful? Nope. Absolutely not.

Who says that is all you need? Who is simplifying this argument to suggest this?


He sure whacked the crap outta that straw man, didn't he?
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-07-24 03:38:54 PM  

SlothB77: Nadie_AZ: Who says that is all you need? Who is simplifying this argument to suggest this?

The fact is, five people open five restaurants on a road. Two go out of business. Three become successful because they provide great food with great service in a pleasant atmosphere at a reasonable price. Let's demonize them. Their success can only be attributed to the help they got, the collective and the road. And because of that, they should pay more taxes, which will be redistributed by the government to the two restaurants on the same road that failed.


Yes, let's be totally dishonest and claim that someone is saying that.
 
2012-07-24 03:48:18 PM  

vpb: SlothB77: Nadie_AZ: Who says that is all you need? Who is simplifying this argument to suggest this?

The fact is, five people open five restaurants on a road. Two go out of business. Three become successful because they provide great food with great service in a pleasant atmosphere at a reasonable price. Let's demonize them. Their success can only be attributed to the help they got, the collective and the road. And because of that, they should pay more taxes, which will be redistributed by the government to the two restaurants on the same road that failed.

Yes, let's be totally dishonest and claim that someone is saying that.


To be fair, McDonald's is getting tax exemptions that other restaurants are not. I'm not loving it.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-07-24 04:02:06 PM  

SlothB77:
And as you can tell from reading Fark, Obama is very convincing. People don't believe successful entreprenuers are hard working or smart or deserving of the money they earned.


Maybe it's more that many people aren't idiots.

I mean, how smart is it to believe someone who benefits heavily from government spending when they claim they shouldn't have to pay for what they use?

And they know that just because someone invested some money in opening a business doesn't mean that the workers who actually built the company didn't have anything to do with it, either.
 
2012-07-24 04:02:54 PM  

djkutch: Children Retards interviewing children


FTFY
 
2012-07-24 04:02:57 PM  
img139.imageshack.us
 
2012-07-24 04:08:29 PM  

SlothB77: Nadie_AZ: Who says that is all you need? Who is simplifying this argument to suggest this?

The fact is, five people open five restaurants on a road. Two go out of business. Three become successful because they provide great food with great service in a pleasant atmosphere at a reasonable price. Let's demonize them. Their success can only be attributed to the help they got, the collective and the road. And because of that, they should pay more taxes, which will be redistributed by the government to the two restaurants on the same road that failed.


Would any of those three restaurants have even been able to open if not for the government providing the restaurant owners a toolbox they could use to grow their talents like roads that the restaurants use to bring their food and customers to the restaurant or public universities that taught them how best to start and run a business?
 
2012-07-24 04:08:40 PM  

SlothB77: The fact is, five people open five restaurants on a road. Two go out of business. Three become successful because they provide great food with great service in a pleasant atmosphere at a reasonable price. Let's demonize them. Their success can only be attributed to the help they got, the collective and the road. And because of that, they should pay more taxes, which will be redistributed by the government to the two restaurants on the same road that failed.


Some of those restaurants are actually PUSHED OUT of business by the government, you know. I opened a restaurant that sold Patriot Burgers and Freedom Fries and, every one of my combos was named after a Great Conservative Hero, and Obama's brownshirts came in and put me right out of business. They made up some bullshiat excuse about how my Reagan and Cheese didn't have their fancy "USDA" stamp on it, and how the flies kept getting in my Double Oliver North with Bacon, and how that wasn't "sanitary". *I* don't think we need more regulations like that, but what do I know? I'm just a Small Business Owner.
 
2012-07-24 04:08:57 PM  
Fox News knows their audience, people who think like 6 year olds.
 
2012-07-24 04:09:05 PM  
Steve Doocy would have interviewed the the little girls, but a judge ordered him not to speak to children.
 
2012-07-24 04:09:43 PM  

Serious Black: Would any of those three restaurants have even been able to open if not for the government providing the restaurant owners a toolbox they could use to grow their talents like roads that the restaurants use to bring their food and customers to the restaurant or public universities that taught them how best to start and run a business?


If you bring that up, that's demonizing the business.
 
2012-07-24 04:10:25 PM  
Con game.

You give the mark just enough simplified information to think he understands the game.

It's just like those stupid "Household Budget" analogies every right-wing idiot was posting on here a couple of months ago. "If you don't have the money in your bank, you don't make purchases!"

Of course, comparing a household budget to a world-wide economy is BS, but boy, those gimp-brained Fox droolers sure think they have it all figured out.
 
2012-07-24 04:10:29 PM  

pizen: SlothB77


Apparently, some near and dear to your heart thinks the Olympic Athletes didn't do it on their own, either (bonus, using Obama's logic).
 
2012-07-24 04:10:33 PM  

sprawl15: [img139.imageshack.us image 300x225]


What the hell ever happened to that show? One of the best shows on TV ever.
 
2012-07-24 04:13:11 PM  

SlothB77: Nadie_AZ: Who says that is all you need? Who is simplifying this argument to suggest this?

The fact is, five people open five restaurants on a road. Two go out of business. Three become successful because they provide great food with great service in a pleasant atmosphere at a reasonable price. Let's demonize them. Their success can only be attributed to the help they got, the collective and the road. And because of that, they should pay more taxes, which will be redistributed by the government to the two restaurants on the same road that failed.


Nobody is being demonized. Pull your head out.
 
2012-07-24 04:13:21 PM  

SlothB77: what he will continue to do is delegitimize the success and hard work and risk incurred by business owners


Except that what he said was true.

If a person has a great idea, eventually they are going to need to rely upon others to get that idea to frustration. They will probably need employees to help execute the idea. They will also need the government, may it be transportation, utilities, law enforcement, fire protection, trademarks, patents, and schools (for a new generation of employees).

If I came up with the idea for Facebook in 1995, how good do you think it would have done me if I lived in Somalia?

Sure, in the end you need the person with the great idea. But many of these people have gotten big heads. Their idea doesn't mean shiat without a stable place for commerce with a good pool of local talent to draw upon.
 
2012-07-24 04:13:29 PM  

SlothB77: And as you can tell from reading Fark, Obama is very convincing. People don't believe successful entreprenuers are hard working or smart or deserving of the money they earned.


Horse shiat. That isn't what people think and you either farking know it and are completely disingenuous or are one of the most ignorant farks around.

It cracks me up how these Republican politicians go around saying government is the enemy WHILE THEY ARE RUNNING FOR GOVERNMENT. People like you give them your vote, thinking you will benefit, when all they are getting into power for is to consolidate more wealth and power in the hands of the already wealthy and powerful.

They only want to remove the parts of government that stop or slow down their mad power and wealth grabs; regulations and laws that are designed to prevent them from bending the rest of us over and sticking us all eight inches dry while they raid our pensions and bank accounts. These people are not on your side. And they LOVE government if it is sending people to war or invading wombs and bedrooms.

Rich Republicans would like people to believe that they ALL got there on their own, with no help whatsoever, when virtually NONE of them did. They benefited either from inheritances from their forebears or community/government aid.
 
2012-07-24 04:13:46 PM  

SlothB77: What Obama was doing in Roanoke, and what he will continue to do is delegitimize the success and hard work and risk incurred by business owners. All Obama & Co. have to do is convince slightly more than half the country entreprenuers did not earn their wealth. Then enough people in this country will support taxing entreprenuers out of existence. Then everyone will be equal and everything will be fair. Sure, instead of bringing the poor out of poverty it will bring the rich into poverty, still, everyone will be equal and everything will be fair. That's what they want. So you have to convince enough people the rich really didn't work hard to get what they got. The rich really aren't that smart. You convince people the rich are only successful because someone else helped them, then they kept all the spoils for themselves.

And as you can tell from reading Fark, Obama is very convincing. People don't believe successful entreprenuers are hard working or smart or deserving of the money they earned.


I had forgotten that there were no entrepreneurs prior to the Bush tax cuts since they simply cannot exist at that tax rate.
 
2012-07-24 04:13:46 PM  
Her lemonade's probably tasteless and watery anyway.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-07-24 04:14:12 PM  
If you think about it, why is it that people who own companies get credit for building them? I don't just mean that they rely on the government creating an environment where it is possible to run a business. They didn't build anything. They may have provided the capital that allowed employees to build a company. If they ran the company instead of hiring someone else to do it they may even have provided some leadership, but they didn't build it, their employees built it.

From the way conservatives talk, the employees who built the company are just leaches who should be grateful that the man who does all the work lets them have a job as charity.

Conservatives are a lot like Marxists in a way. Marxists tried to give labor 100% of the credit and ignored the role of capital, and conservatives do the exact opposite.
 
2012-07-24 04:14:21 PM  

SlothB77: What Obama was doing in Roanoke, and what he will continue to do is delegitimize the success and hard work and risk incurred by business owners


How does one have a reasonable debate with a Republican when they intentionally miss the point.

/Or they are all retarded
 
2012-07-24 04:15:28 PM  

what_now: Some of those restaurants are actually PUSHED OUT of business by the government, you know. I opened a restaurant that sold Patriot Burgers and Freedom Fries and, every one of my combos was named after a Great Conservative Hero, and Obama's brownshirts came in and put me right out of business. They made up some bullshiat excuse about how my Reagan and Cheese didn't have their fancy "USDA" stamp on it, and how the flies kept getting in my Double Oliver North with Bacon, and how that wasn't "sanitary". *I* don't think we need more regulations like that, but what do I know? I'm just a Small Business Owner.


You know what I miss? The Charlton Heston "Just Try To Pry 'Em Out Of Our Cold Hands" Frappes (or "Milkshakes" for those in the uncivilized regions)
 
2012-07-24 04:15:44 PM  
You Libs are gonna look pretty silly when we find out those girls grew the lemons in their backyard and used rain water.
 
2012-07-24 04:16:52 PM  
"Clara, how do you feel about the President saying that you needed help to start this business?
"Our help came from our investors, our dad and stepmom, along with other friends and family."


Unsuprisingly enough, Brian Kilmeade got outsmarted by a pair of five year-olds.
 
2012-07-24 04:17:11 PM  
Cute entrepreneurs! What have you lib Farkers done lately?

"We've tried nothing, man, and we're all out of ideas!"
 
2012-07-24 04:17:14 PM  

BunkoSquad: what_now: Some of those restaurants are actually PUSHED OUT of business by the government, you know. I opened a restaurant that sold Patriot Burgers and Freedom Fries and, every one of my combos was named after a Great Conservative Hero, and Obama's brownshirts came in and put me right out of business. They made up some bullshiat excuse about how my Reagan and Cheese didn't have their fancy "USDA" stamp on it, and how the flies kept getting in my Double Oliver North with Bacon, and how that wasn't "sanitary". *I* don't think we need more regulations like that, but what do I know? I'm just a Small Business Owner.

You know what I miss? The Charlton Heston "Just Try To Pry 'Em Out Of Our Cold Hands" Frappes (or "Milkshakes" for those in the uncivilized regions)


And the Small Government portions were perfect for kids.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-07-24 04:17:35 PM  

RedT: pizen: SlothB77

Apparently, some near and dear to your heart thinks the Olympic Athletes didn't do it on their own, either (bonus, using Obama's logic).


You mean, someone thinks that they have sponsors and trainers, and that they actually need them?
 
2012-07-24 04:19:13 PM  

cfffffgagffacfacfacfacfacccccfcaaffff: Her lemonade's probably tasteless and watery anyway.


I tried some.

Lemon. Wet. Good
 
2012-07-24 04:19:28 PM  

AkaDad: You Libs are gonna look pretty silly when we find out those girls grew the lemons in their backyard and used rain water.


Which, thanks to the government, isn't acid-rain water and lemons with carcinogenic pesticides.
 
2012-07-24 04:19:43 PM  

pizen: Take a successful business and remove the road to it. Will it all of a sudden become unsuccessful? Probably.


Examples - thousands of small businesses along the roads of the US Highway system that went bust when the Interstate system was built, allowing motorists to zoom from place to place without distractions like interacting with another human soul.

Thanks a lot, EISENHOWER.
 
2012-07-24 04:20:12 PM  
Yes, because I know several seven year olds that know what the terms "investors" and "proprietary" mean...
 
2012-07-24 04:21:03 PM  
It's about time someone NOT from the LSM finally got the facts out there.
 
2012-07-24 04:21:09 PM  

Sock Ruh Tease: Steve Doocy would have interviewed the the little girls, but a judge ordered him not to speak to children.


Does he have a son that also works for Fox news? The Daily Show had a clip with someone named Doocy, and it wasn't Steve. It was very strange.
 
2012-07-24 04:21:37 PM  

MaxxLarge: I love how Focks has no trouble pulling a frankly retarded stunt like this, but Michelle Obama's anti child-obesity initiative is somehow "indoctrinating children with partisan rhetoric."

I seriously have no idea how these hypocritical assholes sleep at night.


Because millions of other hypocritical assholes tune in, every day, and essentially say, good job.
 
2012-07-24 04:21:59 PM  

gimmegimme: kbronsito: Is the lemonade stand located in a public sidewalk?

Do any of their costumers use public roads to reach them?

Did they learn the math to calculate their costs and profits at a public school?

Did their "investors" (aka mom and dad) attend a public school or university in order to attain the educational level that was key to securing their current employment and thus raising the capital to invest in the lemonade stand?

Are lemons purchased at a supermarket (can we then assume those lemons reached the supermarket in a truck that drove on a public roads)? Did their parents drive on similar roads to reach the supermarket?

Were the lemons grown on an orchard owned by someone who receives farm subsidies? Was the sugar the result of corporate welfare?

[juanitajean.com image 548x397]


Your picture left stuff out like the agency in charge of making sure that street names and house/business numbers follow rules that make sense and the fact that police patrol the area to keep crime down, as well as fire department support in the event of an injury. This is the problem I have with the "no taxes" crowd, they don't think this shiat through, they just think that they can scream 'paid service contract' in response to all of those without bothering to wonder how that would work with even the most basic of services provided by our government.
 
2012-07-24 04:22:03 PM  

vernonFL: Fox News knows their audience, people who think like 6 year olds.


I think you just insulted my 6 year old.

/6 year olds aren't capable of the hatred, fear and blind anger Fox News viewers have.
//unless they've been horribly abused.
 
2012-07-24 04:22:23 PM  
I bet some Chinese kid can run that stand cheaper.
 
2012-07-24 04:22:49 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: AkaDad: You Libs are gonna look pretty silly when we find out those girls grew the lemons in their backyard and used rain water.

Which, thanks to the government, isn't acid-rain water and lemons with carcinogenic pesticides.


* shakes tiny fist *
 
2012-07-24 04:24:32 PM  

Dinki: What's sadder- that a national news network would do something like this, or that the news network would think it is somehow a legitimate story?

... or that it's viewers would eat it up as a legitimate news story?
 
2012-07-24 04:25:10 PM  

Nadie_AZ: Thank you. This was my first thought. Even here in Arizona, where a lot of people have lemon trees- the water is brought in via a network of dams and canals. The roads they'd sell on are paved. The police that protect them from evil limeade terrorists are around. On and on it goes.


Yes, the canals are a HUGE government project. SRP was a big deal back in the day. The problem with these moronic cock-knockers is that they are fine with something like this as long as their parents and grandparents paid for it. They would also have no problem with all of these services is YOU paid for them, they just don't want to take responsibility themselves.
 
2012-07-24 04:25:28 PM  
i211.photobucket.com

Never more appropriate than in this thread.
 
2012-07-24 04:25:30 PM  

MaxxLarge: I love how Focks has no trouble pulling a frankly retarded stunt like this, but Michelle Obama's anti child-obesity initiative is somehow "indoctrinating children with partisan rhetoric."

I seriously have no idea how these hypocritical assholes sleep at night.


They log into their bank's website, check the balance in their checking account, log off and then sleep deeper than newborn babies.
 
2012-07-24 04:25:39 PM  

kbronsito: Is the lemonade stand located in a public sidewalk?

Do any of their costumers use public roads to reach them?

Did they learn the math to calculate their costs and profits at a public school?

Did their "investors" (aka mom and dad) attend a public school or university in order to attain the educational level that was key to securing their current employment and thus raising the capital to invest in the lemonade stand?

Are lemons purchased at a supermarket (can we then assume those lemons reached the supermarket in a truck that drove on a public roads)? Did their parents drive on similar roads to reach the supermarket?


I'll play along as well:
Who makes sure that the lemons and sugar you use won't kill your customers?
Who makes sure the water you use is drinkable?
 
2012-07-24 04:26:00 PM  
I built my house with the advise of my six year old. She has a Bob the Builder set.
 
2012-07-24 04:27:02 PM  

what_now: SlothB77: The fact is, five people open five restaurants on a road. Two go out of business. Three become successful because they provide great food with great service in a pleasant atmosphere at a reasonable price. Let's demonize them. Their success can only be attributed to the help they got, the collective and the road. And because of that, they should pay more taxes, which will be redistributed by the government to the two restaurants on the same road that failed.

Some of those restaurants are actually PUSHED OUT of business by the government, you know. I opened a restaurant that sold Patriot Burgers and Freedom Fries and, every one of my combos was named after a Great Conservative Hero, and Obama's brownshirts came in and put me right out of business. They made up some bullshiat excuse about how my Reagan and Cheese didn't have their fancy "USDA" stamp on it, and how the flies kept getting in my Double Oliver North with Bacon, and how that wasn't "sanitary". *I* don't think we need more regulations like that, but what do I know? I'm just a Small Business Owner.


I loved that place!

The food loved liberty so much, it couldn't stand having its hard-earned nutrients taxed away by my alimentary tract.

So every time I ate there, my meal would Go Galt and seek freedom via the closest orifice, as soon as possible.

Anyway, that's how I saw it.

LIVE FREE OR DIARRHEA!
 
2012-07-24 04:27:25 PM  
Let's see,

Lemons- FDA
Lemonade mix- FDA and OSHA
Sugar- FDA
Transporting lemons, lemonade mix, and sugar- Interstates
Water- Public utility

Yep, no help at all, little girl. Or should I say "SOSHICOMMIE GUBMINT LEECH!"
 
2012-07-24 04:27:55 PM  

what_now: SlothB77: The fact is, five people open five restaurants on a road. Two go out of business. Three become successful because they provide great food with great service in a pleasant atmosphere at a reasonable price. Let's demonize them. Their success can only be attributed to the help they got, the collective and the road. And because of that, they should pay more taxes, which will be redistributed by the government to the two restaurants on the same road that failed.

Some of those restaurants are actually PUSHED OUT of business by the government, you know. I opened a restaurant that sold Patriot Burgers and Freedom Fries and, every one of my combos was named after a Great Conservative Hero, and Obama's brownshirts came in and put me right out of business. They made up some bullshiat excuse about how my Reagan and Cheese didn't have their fancy "USDA" stamp on it, and how the flies kept getting in my Double Oliver North with Bacon, and how that wasn't "sanitary". *I* don't think we need more regulations like that, but what do I know? I'm just a Small Business Owner.

Do not feed the trolls.
/You know better.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2012-07-24 04:28:30 PM  

poot_rootbeer: pizen: Take a successful business and remove the road to it. Will it all of a sudden become unsuccessful? Probably.

Examples - thousands of small businesses along the roads of the US Highway system that went bust when the Interstate system was built, allowing motorists to zoom from place to place without distractions like interacting with another human soul.

Thanks a lot, EISENHOWER.


And deliveries of raw materials that businesses need to make products? And the ability to ship products to stores and bring customers to stores.
 
2012-07-24 04:28:48 PM  
Romney bought the lemonade stand and made them build a stage so he could announce they are closing operations and moving the business across the street.
 
2012-07-24 04:28:49 PM  

PanicMan: Sock Ruh Tease: Steve Doocy would have interviewed the the little girls, but a judge ordered him not to speak to children.

Does he have a son that also works for Fox news? The Daily Show had a clip with someone named Doocy, and it wasn't Steve. It was very strange.


Apparently, yes.

Peter Doocy
 
2012-07-24 04:29:46 PM  
Rann Xerox


They log into their bank's website, check the balance in their checking account, log off and then sleep deeper than newborn babies.

i wish they slept like newborn babies...at least then they would wake up crying and screaming with a huge load of wet sh*t in their pants.
 
2012-07-24 04:30:03 PM  

jigger: What the hell ever happened to that show? One of the best shows on TV ever.


Like every other show PFFR worked on, they got tired of doing "Wonder Showzen" halfway through the second season and killed the show in a violent suicide of self-reference.

/yes, I'm aware three whole seasons of "Delocated" were aired.
 
2012-07-24 04:30:43 PM  
While this dickhole is interviewing these kids about their lemonade stand and trying to have a back & forth while maintaining a narrative, do you suppose for even a split second he is wondering to himself if he is worthless to society.
 
2012-07-24 04:31:05 PM  
Producer in the background: Not small, business-owners, you dolts! small-business, owners!!



/there's a joke in there somewhere.
 
2012-07-24 04:31:31 PM  

SlothB77: Nadie_AZ: Who says that is all you need? Who is simplifying this argument to suggest this?

The fact is, five people open five restaurants on a road. Two go out of business. Three become successful because they provide great food with great service in a pleasant atmosphere at a reasonable price. Let's demonize them. Their success can only be attributed to the help they got, the collective and the road. And because of that, they should pay more taxes, which will be redistributed by the government to the two restaurants on the same road that failed.


Said nobody.
 
2012-07-24 04:31:55 PM  
In breaking news, Bain Capital invested in the lemonade stand this afternoon. In order to save the stand from imminent bankruptcy they had the stand take out a 1.2 million dollar loan. Both of the customer service representatives were fired and replaced by a phone bank in India. The lemonade will now be manufactured in China. Bain will receive 1.19 million dollars in consulting fees for the brilliant efforts to save this struggling company. When asked to comment ion this Development CEO Mitt Romney stated "I take full credit for saving this upstanding American firm. I will be retroactively retiring in 3 years , so I also have no involvement in any way."
 
2012-07-24 04:31:57 PM  

AkaDad: You Libs are gonna look pretty silly when we find out those girls grew the lemons in their backyard and used rain water.


Because of water compacts, treaties, and other legal arrangements, interfering with rainfall runoff in the Colorado River watershed may mean you are unlawfully taking water from downstream users.

//Cadillac Desert, we're all screwed in so many ways....
 
2012-07-24 04:33:24 PM  

Gotfire: While this dickhole is interviewing these kids about their lemonade stand and trying to have a back & forth while maintaining a narrative, do you suppose for even a split second he is wondering to himself if he is worthless to society.


Fark no! he gets paid well & we learn form Conservative American Capitalism that that trumps morality.
 
2012-07-24 04:34:26 PM  
#1 If they don't have a business license they are breaking the law.
#2 They have attended public school.
#3 Their customers are using public roads and possibly welfare money to pay for products.
#4 This is the best counter argument that the GOP has got...really?
 
2012-07-24 04:34:37 PM  
dear wing nuts:

The government built the base for today's internet. Just keep that in mind the next time you post some rant, on the internet, about how the government didn't help you post your rant - on the internet.
 
2012-07-24 04:37:46 PM  

Dinjiin: SlothB77: what he will continue to do is delegitimize the success and hard work and risk incurred by business owners

Except that what he said was true.

If a person has a great idea, eventually they are going to need to rely upon others to get that idea to frustration. They will probably need employees to help execute the idea. They will also need the government, may it be transportation, utilities, law enforcement, fire protection, trademarks, patents, and schools (for a new generation of employees).

If I came up with the idea for Facebook in 1995, how good do you think it would have done me if I lived in Somalia?

Sure, in the end you need the person with the great idea. But many of these people have gotten big heads. Their idea doesn't mean shiat without a stable place for commerce with a good pool of local talent to draw upon.


Funny thing is that I've seen right wingers making essentially the same argument to prove that America and Western civilization is the best thing ever. You never see amazing success stories like that in the third world because American Exceptionalism1!
 
2012-07-24 04:38:03 PM  
She bought the materials for her stand, the ingredients for the lemonade and the pitcher/cups it went into.

Oh, wait - her parents helped her. So, no, she didn't do it all by herself.

But of course the Fox News audience will lap that shiat up while they wait for their disability checks.
 
2012-07-24 04:39:47 PM  
Who helped you start this business?" Kilmeade wanted to know. Later, he asked, "Clara, how do you feel about the President saying that you needed help to start this business? And just speak from, speak from within."

When Eliza yawned, he turned to Clara. "I would say that's rude because we worked very hard to build this business," she replied. "But we did have help."

"And your help came from?"

"Our help came from our investors, our dad and stepmom, along with other friends and family.


groups.ultimate-guitar.com
 
2012-07-24 04:39:54 PM  

havocmike: vernonFL: Fox News knows their audience, people who think like 6 year olds.

I think you just insulted my 6 year old.

/6 year olds aren't capable of the hatred, fear and blind anger Fox News viewers have.
//unless they've been horribly abused.


I'm sure this has been brought up a few thousand times before I arrived here at Fark, but.....

Isn't it ridiculous how slowly the crawler at the bottom of Fox News streams by? I mean, it's PAINFUL to try and listen to the anchors and read that thing. I'd be really surprised if a six year old couldn't keep up with it. ESPN's goes by about twice as fast. Seem's Fox isn't even embarrassed about dumbing it down for their viewers.
 
2012-07-24 04:40:32 PM  
"Our help came from our investors, our dad and stepmom, along with other friends and family."

Wow. That has to be the most coached and prepared response I ever heard from a 7-year old.

The irony is that in the context of "The Family", mom and dad are not "Investors" since they probably won't expect "gains/dividends" in return but more like "The Government" who subsidized what they needed for their lemonade stand and provide all their home "infrastructure".
 
2012-07-24 04:41:11 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: I bet some Chinese kid can run that stand cheaper.


The little Indian kid across the street is selling tea for half the price of these girls lemonade.
 
2012-07-24 04:41:44 PM  
Go set up your lemonade stand in a forest somewhere. Tell me how much money you make. And don't forget to dig a well for your water and grow the lemons all by yourself.
 
2012-07-24 04:43:10 PM  

technicolor-misfit: Go set up your lemonade stand in a forest somewhere. Tell me how much money you make. And don't forget to dig a well for your water and grow the lemons all by yourself.


A forest that is conveniently not full of invading armies!
 
2012-07-24 04:43:10 PM  
everyone knows those girls grew the lemons themselves, or bought them with their own money, and NO ONE HELPED THEM.
 
2012-07-24 04:44:12 PM  
The real question is this: What is their stance on gay marriage?
 
2012-07-24 04:44:49 PM  
They've convinced me.

I'm joining the Lemon Party.
 
2012-07-24 04:44:52 PM  

gimmegimme: Were the lemons grown on an orchard owned by someone who receives farm subsidies?


That photo always makes me larf. "Cut taxes not defense"? How the fark is our giant defense industry paid for besides taxes? I wonder if that woman realizes the DoD *doesn't* have bake sales to finance bomber purchases.
 
2012-07-24 04:45:18 PM  

vernonFL: HotWingConspiracy: I bet some Chinese kid can run that stand cheaper.

The little Indian kid across the street is selling tea for half the price of these girls lemonade.


Get Bain Capital on the horn, I want in on this.
 
2012-07-24 04:45:55 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: They've convinced me.

I'm joining the Lemon Party.


They suck.
 
2012-07-24 04:46:51 PM  
What do R-Money and W have in common with this little girl?

All three got a headstart from their families, an option that is not available to everyone.
 
2012-07-24 04:47:53 PM  

theorellior: gimmegimme: Were the lemons grown on an orchard owned by someone who receives farm subsidies?

That photo always makes me larf. "Cut taxes not defense"? How the fark is our giant defense industry paid for besides taxes? I wonder if that woman realizes the DoD *doesn't* have bake sales to finance bomber purchases.


We've been selling advertising space on the sides of our bombers and ICBMs since 1998, didn't you know? Very lucrative side-business.

/The-More-You-Know.jpg
 
2012-07-24 04:50:39 PM  

BunkoSquad: Frappes (or "Milkshakes" for those in the uncivilized regions)


you mean cabinets?
 
2012-07-24 04:51:32 PM  
What's missing is the obvious implications. If you didn't build it, we can take it from you. It's not theft; it's restitution. You didn't build the roads and bridges and Internet. You didn't educate your workers in government illiteracy factories (but you did get to finance the foregoing through your taxes). So you don't deserve a six-figure income.
 
2012-07-24 04:51:46 PM  
Yea all by themselves, why watching them pave the road the customers used to get to the stand, grab buckets and get some water from the creek 2 miles away and shovel coal into the furnace to power the fridge so they could freeze some water to make ice was inspirational. Yep entirely by themselves.
 
2012-07-24 04:52:10 PM  

smitty04: What's missing is the obvious implications. If you didn't build it, we can take it from you. It's not theft; it's restitution. You didn't build the roads and bridges and Internet. You didn't educate your workers in government illiteracy factories (but you did get to finance the foregoing through your taxes). So you don't deserve a six-figure income.


THAT'S NOT WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT!
 
2012-07-24 04:54:17 PM  
www.iwatchstuff.com

DAMN YOU FARTBAMA!!!
 
2012-07-24 04:54:41 PM  

smitty04: What's missing is the obvious implications. If you didn't build it, we can take it from you. It's not theft; it's restitution. You didn't build the roads and bridges and Internet. You didn't educate your workers in government illiteracy factories (but you did get to finance the foregoing through your taxes). So you don't deserve a six-figure income.



Don't worry, smitty04. I don't think anyone is going to accuse of getting an education of any sort.
 
2012-07-24 04:55:04 PM  

StopLurkListen: /The-More-You-Know.jpg


I think this early photo just sums up the whole clusterfark quite nicely.

markc1.typepad.com
 
2012-07-24 04:56:23 PM  

smitty04: What's missing is the obvious implications. If you didn't build it, we can take it from you. It's not theft; it's restitution. You didn't build the roads and bridges and Internet. You didn't educate your workers in government illiteracy factories (but you did get to finance the foregoing through your taxes). So you don't deserve a six-figure income.


have you been lead to believe that what you have cannot be taken away?
 
2012-07-24 04:56:26 PM  

djkutch: Children interviewing children. It's like Sesame Street gone mad.


/thread
 
2012-07-24 04:56:41 PM  

smitty04: What's missing is the obvious implications. If you didn't build it, we can take it from you. It's not theft; it's restitution. You didn't build the roads and bridges and Internet. You didn't educate your workers in government illiteracy factories (but you did get to finance the foregoing through your taxes). So you don't deserve a six-figure income.


Cant you just post a picture from some Teabagger site and call it a day?
 
2012-07-24 04:57:39 PM  
Fox and Friends has a huge following because people do not want hard hitting news before they have had their coffee. It was a lighthearted interview which draws the morning viewer.
 
2012-07-24 04:58:33 PM  

smitty04: What's missing is the obvious implications. If you didn't build it, we can take it from you. It's not theft; it's restitution. You didn't build the roads and bridges and Internet. You didn't educate your workers in government illiteracy factories (but you did get to finance the foregoing through your taxes). So you don't deserve a six-figure income.


If you didn't build it, Shoeless Joe Jackson won't come!
 
2012-07-24 04:59:42 PM  

MaxxLarge: I love how Focks has no trouble pulling a frankly retarded stunt like this, but Michelle Obama's anti child-obesity initiative is somehow "indoctrinating children with partisan rhetoric."

I seriously have no idea how these hypocritical assholes sleep at night.


JUST LIKE THIS
mediahealth.files.wordpress.com
 
2012-07-24 05:00:01 PM  

Isitoveryet: smitty04: What's missing is the obvious implications. If you didn't build it, we can take it from you. It's not theft; it's restitution. You didn't build the roads and bridges and Internet. You didn't educate your workers in government illiteracy factories (but you did get to finance the foregoing through your taxes). So you don't deserve a six-figure income.

have you been lead to believe that what you have cannot be taken away?


Not without due process.
 
2012-07-24 05:03:35 PM  

DirkValentine: MaxxLarge: I love how Focks has no trouble pulling a frankly retarded stunt like this, but Michelle Obama's anti child-obesity initiative is somehow "indoctrinating children with partisan rhetoric."

I seriously have no idea how these hypocritical assholes sleep at night.

JUST LIKE THIS
[mediahealth.files.wordpress.com image 400x267]


It's a combination of that photo and this one:

maxcdn.creativeadawards.com
 
2012-07-24 05:04:38 PM  
I guessed it subby.
 
2012-07-24 05:07:16 PM  

The_Six_Fingered_Man: Isitoveryet: smitty04: What's missing is the obvious implications. If you didn't build it, we can take it from you. It's not theft; it's restitution. You didn't build the roads and bridges and Internet. You didn't educate your workers in government illiteracy factories (but you did get to finance the foregoing through your taxes). So you don't deserve a six-figure income.

have you been lead to believe that what you have cannot be taken away?

Not without due process.


try explaining that to the paranoid masses on the right.
 
2012-07-24 05:07:26 PM  

SlothB77: Look, I get Obama is saying government built the roads and bridges (and they funded those with tax dollars collected from businesses and workers). But if all you needed to be a successful business was to throw a road in front of it, why are so many businesses unsuccessful? Take an unsuccessful business. It is just sitting there. All we need to do is throw a road and bridge in front of it and all of a sudden it will be successful? Nope. Absolutely not.


Yes, excellent point, good sir. You missed the part where the road contributes 100% to the success of the business. mostly it's up to the owner, which is why they keep a larger portion of the revenue than the evil government man.

Can you think more than one farking move ahead?
 
2012-07-24 05:08:17 PM  

gimmegimme: DirkValentine: MaxxLarge: I love how Focks has no trouble pulling a frankly retarded stunt like this, but Michelle Obama's anti child-obesity initiative is somehow "indoctrinating children with partisan rhetoric."

I seriously have no idea how these hypocritical assholes sleep at night.

JUST LIKE THIS
[mediahealth.files.wordpress.com image 400x267]

It's a combination of that photo and this one:

[maxcdn.creativeadawards.com image 580x431]




TRUE DAT!

/lol
 
2012-07-24 05:09:21 PM  

smitty04: What's missing is the obvious implications. If you didn't build it, we can take it from you. It's not theft; it's restitution. You didn't build the roads and bridges and Internet. You didn't educate your workers in government illiteracy factories (but you did get to finance the foregoing through your taxes). So you don't deserve a six-figure income.


Death panels. Jackbooted thugs.

/deja-farking-vu, eh?
 
2012-07-24 05:10:42 PM  

smitty04: Fox and Friends has a huge following because people do not want hard hitting news before they have had their coffee. It was a lighthearted interview which draws the morning viewer.


Tokyo Rose used to have a nice tea-time chat.
 
2012-07-24 05:10:50 PM  
Come on guys, give Fox credit. After all the Romney gaffes this is all they got. At least its somewhat factual. Its better than the usual fanciful derp they have on Obama.
 
2012-07-24 05:14:37 PM  
img528.imageshack.us

Approves.
 
2012-07-24 05:19:15 PM  
Pulitzer prize material

www.rawstory.com
 
2012-07-24 05:21:50 PM  

smitty04: If you didn't build it, we can take it from you.


The latest from Limbaugh?
 
2012-07-24 05:22:14 PM  

vpb: Conservatives are a lot like Marxists in a way. Marxists tried to give labor 100% of the credit and ignored the role of capital, and conservatives do the exact opposite.


Damn, that's an excellent observation. And probably one of the reasons the Conservatives attempt to demonize us dirty libs so much is b/c they can't stand their own blind and naive idealology. It's projection at it's finest. It's a closeted gay guy trying to limit the rights of other gay men in a round about sort of way. A reach around sort of way, if you know what i mean.
 
2012-07-24 05:26:21 PM  

kbronsito: Are lemons purchased at a supermarket (can we then assume those lemons reached the supermarket in a truck that drove on a public roads)? Did their parents drive on similar roads to reach the supermarket?


Were the lemons grown on a farm that operates with government subsidized cop insurance or were they imported via a trade agreement negotiated by our government who also inspected the produce to make sure it wasn't contaminated?
 
2012-07-24 05:27:43 PM  

AkaDad: You Libs are gonna look pretty silly when we find out those girls grew the lemons in their backyard and used rain water.


And the EPA that made sure that rain water wasn't poison?
 
2012-07-24 05:29:11 PM  

Dinjiin: If I came up with the idea for Facebook in 1995, how good do you think it would have done me if I lived in Somalia?


It wouldn't have done you much good in the US in 1995 either.
 
2012-07-24 05:31:08 PM  

smitty04: What's missing is the obvious implications. If you didn't build it, we can take it from you. It's not theft; it's restitution. You didn't build the roads and bridges and Internet. You didn't educate your workers in government illiteracy factories (but you did get to finance the foregoing through your taxes). So you don't deserve a six-figure income.


No. They are saying that the intrepid entrepreneurs should pay taxes as compensation for the infrastructure that they've used and will continue to use in order for their business to survive.

What about interdependence frightens you so?
 
2012-07-24 05:31:53 PM  

jigger: Dinjiin: If I came up with the idea for Facebook in 1995, how good do you think it would have done me if I lived in Somalia?

It wouldn't have done you much good in the US in 1995 either.


Really?

I think it would look just fine:

What Facebook might have looked like in 1995.
 
2012-07-24 05:32:35 PM  

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: smitty04: If you didn't build it, we can take it from you.

The latest from Limbaugh?


Zinn And The Art Of Obama's Marxism
GrassTopsUSA Exclusive Commentary
By Don Feder
 
2012-07-24 05:33:13 PM  
Even if these two CHILDREN running a LEMONADE STAND actually hadn't received help [they had], the point remains...so what?

Although Fox having to go to children to find such a story does jive well with their contention that a majority of Americans don't pay taxes when you take age out of the equation...
 
2012-07-24 05:33:50 PM  

AkaDad: You Libs are gonna look pretty silly when we find out those girls grew the lemons in their backyard and used rain water.


Where did the sugar come from? And the ice? And whatever they're serving it in?
 
2012-07-24 05:37:44 PM  

Graffito: smitty04: What's missing is the obvious implications. If you didn't build it, we can take it from you. It's not theft; it's restitution. You didn't build the roads and bridges and Internet. You didn't educate your workers in government illiteracy factories (but you did get to finance the foregoing through your taxes). So you don't deserve a six-figure income.

No. They are saying that the intrepid entrepreneurs should pay taxes as compensation for the infrastructure that they've used and will continue to use in order for their business to survive.

What about interdependence frightens you so?


Interdependence requires trust, and the reactionary regressive mindset has been stoked for over 30 years into fearing everything and destroying the bedrocks of trust.
 
2012-07-24 05:37:45 PM  
I'd say that interview is about on par with the intellect of most Fox News viewers.
 
2012-07-24 05:39:25 PM  

SlothB77: The fact is, five people open five restaurants on a road. Two go out of business. Three become successful because they provide great food with great service in a pleasant atmosphere at a reasonable price. Let's demonize them. Their success can only be attributed to the help they got, the collective and the road. And because of that, they should pay more taxes, which will be redistributed by the government to the two restaurants on the same road that failed.


You've just described the professional sports model.
 
2012-07-24 05:47:47 PM  

smitty04: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: smitty04: If you didn't build it, we can take it from you.

The latest from Limbaugh?

Zinn And The Art Of Obama's Marxism
GrassTopsUSA Exclusive Commentary
By Don Feder


So now we know who's been submitting that suck-ass blog.
 
2012-07-24 05:53:03 PM  

propasaurus: smitty04: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: smitty04: If you didn't build it, we can take it from you.

The latest from Limbaugh?

Zinn And The Art Of Obama's Marxism
GrassTopsUSA Exclusive Commentary
By Don Feder

So now we know who's been submitting that suck-ass blog.


Only if by his alt:

Submitted links approved: None
 
2012-07-24 05:53:14 PM  
So, let's take the government is the problem to the complete illogical extreme.

1. You (probably) wouldn't be reading this post because even if private business DID develop select internets, there's not guarentee you would be on the right one.
2. You might not even have power. Depending on where you live, your power company might not have received a benefit to run power out to less urban locaitons.
3. Your dwelling wouldn't have a building code, which means it might be more likely to flood, catch fire, fall down, and all sorts of other problems. Speaking of that. Unless you have a contract with private emergency services(which wouldn't be enforcable) if something did happen to your house, well, it could get terrible.
4. You would have to either drive on dirt(mud) or pay a toll to drive on private roads to get anywhere, like work.
5. Your working conditions would be only as regulated as your company wants them to be. If your boss decides that guardrails aren't important, or people are leaving through fire exits, or you need to be chained to your desk, your boss could do that.
6. Even if you survived your week, there's nothing that says your boss has to pay you properly, or at all.

Without government, we would be a scattered group of people controled by sociopaths. As it stands, we could do with some trimming here and there for government, and we could also do with some streamlining.
 
2012-07-24 05:56:13 PM  

Benni K Rok: So, let's take the government is the problem to the complete illogical extreme.

1. You (probably) wouldn't be reading this post because even if private business DID develop select internets, there's not guarentee you would be on the right one.
2. You might not even have power. Depending on where you live, your power company might not have received a benefit to run power out to less urban locaitons.
3. Your dwelling wouldn't have a building code, which means it might be more likely to flood, catch fire, fall down, and all sorts of other problems. Speaking of that. Unless you have a contract with private emergency services(which wouldn't be enforcable) if something did happen to your house, well, it could get terrible.
4. You would have to either drive on dirt(mud) or pay a toll to drive on private roads to get anywhere, like work.
5. Your working conditions would be only as regulated as your company wants them to be. If your boss decides that guardrails aren't important, or people are leaving through fire exits, or you need to be chained to your desk, your boss could do that.
6. Even if you survived your week, there's nothing that says your boss has to pay you properly, or at all.

Without government, we would be a scattered group of people controled by sociopaths. As it stands, we could do with some trimming here and there for government, and we could also do with some streamlining.


When the GOP says, "Empower yourself," they mean "Give up all your power."
 
2012-07-24 06:14:16 PM  

Lenny_da_Hog: propasaurus: smitty04: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: smitty04: If you didn't build it, we can take it from you.

The latest from Limbaugh?

Zinn And The Art Of Obama's Marxism
GrassTopsUSA Exclusive Commentary
By Don Feder

So now we know who's been submitting that suck-ass blog.

Only if by his alt:

Submitted links approved: None


Well, good thing that never happens around here.
 
2012-07-24 06:14:59 PM  
I wish he HAD said what they're saying he said. That would make this clip funny
 
2012-07-24 06:30:04 PM  
Rtfa, just not the thread.
But wow, how farking lame.
 
2012-07-24 06:31:39 PM  

gimmegimme: jigger: Dinjiin: If I came up with the idea for Facebook in 1995, how good do you think it would have done me if I lived in Somalia?

It wouldn't have done you much good in the US in 1995 either.

Really?

I think it would look just fine:

What Facebook might have looked like in 1995.


Maybe. But you couldn't download Netscape 3.0 until 1996.

But no one would use facebook back then.
 
2012-07-24 06:55:42 PM  

jigger: Maybe. But you couldn't download Netscape 3.0 until 1996.


media.tumblr.com
 
2012-07-24 07:00:05 PM  
Starting a business entirely on your parents' dime: The Republican idea of success.
 
2012-07-24 07:04:35 PM  
Lemonade stands: the engine that drives the economy.
 
2012-07-24 07:13:40 PM  
Murdoch knows the jig is up. He's talking about pulling out of Great Britain altogether, after his two principle assistance in UK were indicted today on very serious charges. Murdoch knows his empire is coming down like ...well.. you know, and FOXNews may not be not far from disappearing altogether given the FBI investigation going on right now. With that, the American Political Landscape will change considerably.

Mark my words.
 
2012-07-24 07:13:47 PM  

Dinjiin: SlothB77: what he will continue to do is delegitimize the success and hard work and risk incurred by business owners

Except that what he said was true.

If a person has a great idea, eventually they are going to need to rely upon others to get that idea to frustration. They will probably need employees to help execute the idea. They will also need the government, may it be transportation, utilities, law enforcement, fire protection, trademarks, patents, and schools (for a new generation of employees).

If I came up with the idea for Facebook in 1995, how good do you think it would have done me if I lived in Somalia?

Sure, in the end you need the person with the great idea. But many of these people have gotten big heads. Their idea doesn't mean shiat without a stable place for commerce with a good pool of local talent to draw upon.


I think you've hit on something here. Getting an idea to frustration can easily be accomplished by a single individual, often without even trying. It's getting it to fruition that takes the team to do.
 
2012-07-24 07:17:02 PM  

Serious Black: Graffito: smitty04: What's missing is the obvious implications. If you didn't build it, we can take it from you. It's not theft; it's restitution. You didn't build the roads and bridges and Internet. You didn't educate your workers in government illiteracy factories (but you did get to finance the foregoing through your taxes). So you don't deserve a six-figure income.

No. They are saying that the intrepid entrepreneurs should pay taxes as compensation for the infrastructure that they've used and will continue to use in order for their business to survive.

What about interdependence frightens you so?

Interdependence requires trust, and the reactionary regressive mindset has been stoked for over 30 years into fearing everything and destroying the bedrocks of trust.


It's also the logical conclusion to the divide-and-conquer approach the GOP has been using on its own base for the past few decades. Divide people into small enough groups through lies and bespoke boogeymen, and eventually everyone is fundamentally afraid of everyone else. That may also explain (in part) why the teabaggers are so extra-extra irrational: they're in a constant state of internal conflict over a multitude of mutually exclusive fears. That's got to be confusing as hell.

/An oversimplification, I know, but it's a contributing factor for sure.
 
2012-07-24 07:21:17 PM  
RedT: Lemon. Wet. Good

nice
 
2012-07-24 07:29:28 PM  

DrD'isInfotainment: Murdoch knows the jig is up. He's talking about pulling out of Great Britain altogether, after his two principle assistance in UK were indicted today on very serious charges. Murdoch knows his empire is coming down like ...well.. you know, and FOXNews may not be not far from disappearing altogether given the FBI investigation going on right now. With that, the American Political Landscape will change considerably.

Mark my words.


Not going to happen. The GOP is not going to give up their propaganda outlet easily.
 
2012-07-24 07:29:40 PM  

smitty04: Pulitzer prize material

[www.rawstory.com image 615x345]


Those girls look like they know a Pedophile when they're talking to one.
 
2012-07-24 07:33:06 PM  

Dinjiin: jigger: Maybe. But you couldn't download Netscape 3.0 until 1996.

[media.tumblr.com image 256x256]


It's ironic because the point was right here: "But no one would use facebook back then."

And you were way over there.
 
2012-07-24 07:34:47 PM  

Crapinoleum: I think you've hit on something here. Getting an idea to frustration can easily be accomplished by a single individual, often without even trying. It's getting it to fruition that takes the team to do.


Have you ever thought of management consulting? Or maybe seminars?
 
2012-07-24 07:40:14 PM  

jigger: And you were way over there.


You're right. Somalia is way over there. ;)
 
2012-07-24 07:41:36 PM  
I heard that Mitt Romney likes lemonade. Is he going to visit their stand?
 
2012-07-24 07:43:45 PM  

DrD'isInfotainment: Murdoch knows the jig is up. He's talking about pulling out of Great Britain altogether, after his two principle assistance in UK were indicted today on very serious charges. Murdoch knows his empire is coming down like ...well.. you know, and FOXNews may not be not far from disappearing altogether given the FBI investigation going on right now. With that, the American Political Landscape will change considerably.

Mark my words.


So marked.
 
2012-07-24 07:51:29 PM  

jigger: Crapinoleum: I think you've hit on something here. Getting an idea to frustration can easily be accomplished by a single individual, often without even trying. It's getting it to fruition that takes the team to do.

Have you ever thought of management consulting? Or maybe seminars?


Too frustrating.
 
2012-07-24 08:05:02 PM  

Graffito: I heard that Mitt Romney likes lemonade. Is he going to visit their stand?


STOP GIVING THEM IDEAS!
 
2012-07-24 08:53:49 PM  
i48.tinypic.com
 
2012-07-24 08:55:39 PM  

NateGrey: Romney bought the lemonade stand and made them build a stage so he could announce they are closing operations and moving the business across the street.


But after that press conference, Romney sold the stage to Jimmy for 50 cents on the dollar to make a tree house, Billy got most of the stand for even less to make a skateboard ramp, and Mitt drank the rest of the lemonade and kept the cigar box with $3.14 in it. Everybody on the block applauded his business acumen, except for the girls who were going to use that money to buy a couple of music downloads. They just cried, and from what I hear, pay 5 cents a week to a therapist named Lucy.
 
2012-07-24 09:50:01 PM  

smitty04: What's missing is the obvious implications. If you didn't build it, we can take it from you. blah blah something nobody except idiots think...


If it's missing, it's not very obvious, is it?
 
2012-07-24 09:58:23 PM  

SlothB77: Look, I get Obama is saying government built the roads and bridges (and they funded those with tax dollars collected from businesses and workers). But if all you needed to be a successful business was to throw a road in front of it, why are so many businesses unsuccessful? Take an unsuccessful business. It is just sitting there. All we need to do is throw a road and bridge in front of it and all of a sudden it will be successful? Nope. Absolutely not.


This is a really stupid argument. Of course good business acumen is necessary - in fact, it will tell you to put the business next to the road. The idea that Obama thinks ONLY gov't is necessary is just as retarded as thinking that ONLY entrepreneurship is necessary. Simplify any more and we'll have to consult a couple of lemonade stand owners... ah, hell, never mind.
 
2012-07-24 10:27:13 PM  

SlothB77: The fact is, five people open five restaurants on a road. Two go out of business. Three become successful because they provide great food with great service in a pleasant atmosphere at a reasonable price. Let's demonize them. Their success can only be attributed to the help they got, the collective and the road.


Like it or not the infrastructure (ie: road) has a large part in determining the success of a business.

Just look at what happens to a business when the road it's on undergoes major road construction. It doesn't matter what kind of service it provides, if a customer can't get to it easily, they just won't go.

Any more stupid talking points from right-wing radio today?
 
2012-07-24 10:39:35 PM  

Mrtraveler01: SlothB77: The fact is, five people open five restaurants on a road. Two go out of business. Three become successful because they provide great food with great service in a pleasant atmosphere at a reasonable price. Let's demonize them. Their success can only be attributed to the help they got, the collective and the road.

Like it or not the infrastructure (ie: road) has a large part in determining the success of a business.

Just look at what happens to a business when the road it's on undergoes major road construction. It doesn't matter what kind of service it provides, if a customer can't get to it easily, they just won't go.

Any more stupid talking points from right-wing radio today?


Stop being silly. It's a COMPLETE COINCIDENCE that the FedEx ground distribution center in my area was built a couple hundred feet off of a highway that is a mile away from the big interstate.
 
2012-07-24 10:52:19 PM  

gimmegimme: Mrtraveler01: SlothB77: The fact is, five people open five restaurants on a road. Two go out of business. Three become successful because they provide great food with great service in a pleasant atmosphere at a reasonable price. Let's demonize them. Their success can only be attributed to the help they got, the collective and the road.

Like it or not the infrastructure (ie: road) has a large part in determining the success of a business.

Just look at what happens to a business when the road it's on undergoes major road construction. It doesn't matter what kind of service it provides, if a customer can't get to it easily, they just won't go.

Any more stupid talking points from right-wing radio today?

Stop being silly. It's a COMPLETE COINCIDENCE that the FedEx ground distribution center in my area was built a couple hundred feet off of a highway that is a mile away from the big interstate.


I know what you mean.

It's a TOTAL COINCIDENCE that quite a few of my suppliers are in Indianapolis which just happens to have 4 Interstates running through it and within a day's drive of over half of the country.
 
2012-07-24 11:20:13 PM  

DrD'isInfotainment: Murdoch knows the jig is up. He's talking about pulling out of Great Britain altogether, after his two principle assistance in UK were indicted today on very serious charges. Murdoch knows his empire is coming down like ...well.. you know, and FOXNews may not be not far from disappearing altogether given the FBI investigation going on right now. With that, the American Political Landscape will change considerably.

Mark my words.



Even if the Fox News building and every employee they have were raptured away in the blink of an eye, there would be a new "Fox News" to take its place inside of 6 months.

The demand is there. Someone will fill it.
 
2012-07-25 12:08:18 AM  

MaxxLarge: I love how Focks has no trouble pulling a frankly retarded stunt like this, but Michelle Obama's anti child-obesity initiative is somehow "indoctrinating children with partisan rhetoric."

I seriously have no idea how these hypocritical assholes sleep at night.


They have good insurance, so they can get good drugs.
 
2012-07-25 12:55:15 PM  
"Location location location" is just something stupid libs say because they aren't smart enough to run a successful business in the woods down a dirt road.
 
2012-07-25 07:33:21 PM  
Hey guys, let it go. If this is the only thing they can complain about Obama, then they got nothing.

Anybody-but-Obama voters don't care about facts. They know what he really said, they just don't care.

Let them work themselves into a frothy mixture and watch their anybody not get elected.

Romney has nothing to run on. Not his successes as a liberal governor, not his successes as a corporate raider. He's got nothing and he'll get nothing.
 
2012-07-25 11:24:05 PM  

brianbankerus: Let them work themselves into a frothy mixture Santorum and watch their anybody not get elected.

 
2012-07-25 11:41:46 PM  

RadioAaron: brianbankerus: Let them work themselves into a frothy mixture Santorum and watch their anybody not get elected.


Well if you want to use the technical term, sure, but that's kinda where I was going with that. NTTAWWT.
 
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