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(KREM Spokane)   Someone in Idaho is counterfeiting $1 bills, forgetting all about larger bills that might actually make it worth their while   (krem.com) divider line 99
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2012-07-24 01:12:34 PM
Ha I dunno which is funnier -- the fake $1 bill, or the perfectly legal $2 bill I almost got arrested for spending at a Taco Bell about ten years ago. They called mall security on me, he handcuffed me & called the cops. There were about 30 people standing around, and I was the *only* one who knew the $2 bill was legit -- until the cop showed up.

He was like "WTF?"
They: "This guy just tried to buy food with this..."
Cop: "So?"
They: "It's a TWO DOLLAR bill!"
Cop: "Yeah, I can see that. What's the problem?"
They: "Well, um, it's a TWO DOLLAR bill. There's no such thing as a two dollar bill."
Cop: "What in the hell are you talking about? It's perfectly legal. It's a two dollar bill."
They: "There's no two dollar bill!"
Cop: etc...

I got a free burrito, and one of the best laughs of my life.
 
2012-07-24 01:18:25 PM
Perhaps it's because the $1 bill is pretty much the only one left in regular production that doesn't include the newer anti-counterfeiting protections.
 
2012-07-24 01:20:26 PM
Ages ago (1970s, I think), there was a story of a guy who counterfeited nickles, and he made a LOT of them.

It was a pretty strange story, and I kind of had to admire the guy's ambition. He didn't seem to be out to make millions of dollars or anything. I think the guy was just buying groceries with his ill-gotten gains.
 
2012-07-24 01:21:07 PM
pocket ninja is the friend of a friend that had this happen to him. It's true because I read it on the internet.
 
2012-07-24 01:21:53 PM

wxboy: Perhaps it's because the $1 bill is pretty much the only one left in regular production that doesn't include the newer anti-counterfeiting protections.


Don't know much about counterfeiting, but the security measures only really matter if someone checks them. Any time I've dropped a $20 at a bar or corner store or whatever... they've never checked anything. Of course, if I really wanted to save a ton of money doing so... it would be kinda difficult because I visit the same few bars and stores every day. I imagine I could pull it off for a few months at most before getting caught.
 
2012-07-24 01:32:34 PM
Am I the only one here that thinks this is actually brilliant?
Think about it. If he had tried to pass a 20 or higher the clerk would've likely checked the bill on the spot, and it's game over. So the guy gets creative. Simple enough. You take a handful of regular ones and mix in a 'bonus' single. You go to the grocery store and you buy something, like say a pound of hamburger that comes out to 5 cents over the dollar figure, so 3.05 say. You pay with your singles, collect 95 cents in change (pure profit) and then go sell the hamburger on the black market for cost. Lather, rinse, repeat.
And it could get better, maybe once in a while you find a pound of hamburger for 3.02 or 3.01... Of course, you'd want to case the place first to make sure they don't have penny dishes obviously.
But this way, you could keep the ball rolling indefinitely.
 
2012-07-24 01:43:47 PM
I seem to remember an episode of Hey! Arnold years ago where the criminals counterfeited pennies
 
2012-07-24 01:45:11 PM

TsarTom: Am I the only one here that thinks this is actually brilliant?
Think about it. If he had tried to pass a 20 or higher the clerk would've likely checked the bill on the spot, and it's game over. So the guy gets creative. Simple enough. You take a handful of regular ones and mix in a 'bonus' single. You go to the grocery store and you buy something, like say a pound of hamburger that comes out to 5 cents over the dollar figure, so 3.05 say. You pay with your singles, collect 95 cents in change (pure profit) and then go sell the hamburger on the black market for cost. Lather, rinse, repeat.
And it could get better, maybe once in a while you find a pound of hamburger for 3.02 or 3.01... Of course, you'd want to case the place first to make sure they don't have penny dishes obviously.
But this way, you could keep the ball rolling indefinitely.


You're making me think all those back alley ground beef purchased I've made may not have been on the up and up.
 
2012-07-24 02:20:11 PM
Pro-tip: nobody checks $5s and $1s to see if they are real, and only a few people bother with $10s. Don't try to deposit them yourself and you've got a pretty good shot of getting away with it.
 
2012-07-24 02:26:21 PM
Hey subby, Mr. 880
 
2012-07-24 02:26:23 PM

PhiloeBedoe: In honor of Ernest Borgnine I am making a Supercop reference.


Came for this....leaving satisfied.
 
2012-07-24 02:26:59 PM
Hurd told the Lewiston Tribune he's only seen a counterfeit $1 once in his career, and it was made by a junior high school student to pay off a bully.

FTW
 
2012-07-24 02:29:30 PM
It's amazing how many bogus ones are out there. Look at a handful under a black-light and you'll see. Why yes, I was in a bar when I first noticed this ... in 1975.
 
2012-07-24 02:29:47 PM

GAT_00: Pro-tip: nobody checks $5s and $1s to see if they are real, and only a few people bother with $10s. Don't try to deposit them yourself and you've got a pretty good shot of getting away with it.


and it will take a minimum of 2,000 transactions (2,000 chances to get caught) for $10,000,

don't steal less than a years salary
 
2012-07-24 02:30:10 PM
He should have cloned twenties. Jackson wouldn't have given a shiat.
 
2012-07-24 02:30:11 PM
Didnt I read somewhere that counterfeiters take $1, bleach them, then print $5 denominations on the paper?
 
2012-07-24 02:31:55 PM
I go to the liquor store and buy 20 dollars worth of beer, and I pay with $100 bill. When the clerk gives me the change in twenty dollar bills, I pull out a marker and start pretending to check if the bills are counterfeit.
 
2012-07-24 02:32:39 PM
*True Story*

back in 1979 (i was 15), I was only allowed to go to (walk) to the local library to study, or the bowling alley, where all the video games were (about a mile or two to each one way)

one day, I decided to photo copy a dollar bill and a five dollar bill at the library, front and back, on the black and white copier

I scotch taped a bunch of bills together as close as I could get them (black and white copies, mind you) and went to the arcade at the alley

Put them in the change machine, and played for free the rest of the night

I and was scared shiatless about what would would happen if I got caught - never did it again
 
2012-07-24 02:32:49 PM
Came here to see if this had turned into a stripper thread yet.
Son, very disappoint, etc.
I'll come back later.
 
2012-07-24 02:33:05 PM

wxboy: Perhaps it's because the $1 bill is pretty much the only one left in regular production that doesn't include the newer anti-counterfeiting protections.


this. $1 bills receive so little scrutiny compared to the others, they are actually more logical even if you are only making 50 cents a bill. .
 
2012-07-24 02:33:28 PM
What if the guy wants to counterfeit higher bills, but used a 1 in this case as a test to see if it would pass.
 
2012-07-24 02:33:35 PM

Kanemano: GAT_00: Pro-tip: nobody checks $5s and $1s to see if they are real, and only a few people bother with $10s. Don't try to deposit them yourself and you've got a pretty good shot of getting away with it.

and it will take a minimum of 2,000 transactions (2,000 chances to get caught) for $10,000,

don't steal less than a years salary


Depends on start-up costs I suppose. I have no idea how much it costs to get decent counterfeit bills.
 
2012-07-24 02:34:02 PM

cman: Didnt I read somewhere that counterfeiters take $1, bleach them, then print $5 denominations on the paper?


Not just $5, but yes. The "paper" that money is printed on is all but impossible to replicate, so there have been criminals who bleached $1 bills and turned them into higher denominations.
 
2012-07-24 02:36:00 PM
The customer gets the goods, the store receives the money.

i.imgur.com

Everybody wins!
 
2012-07-24 02:37:17 PM
Some guys just want to go to the strip joint and get a lot of attention while sitting in the pit, and they're content with that.
 
2012-07-24 02:38:15 PM
2.bp.blogspot.com

Strange things afoot at the Big R.
 
2012-07-24 02:38:19 PM
Atleast he wasn't using them at stripclubs, would've ended up with a stilettto in the groin.
 
2012-07-24 02:38:50 PM
Wow, this story is actually somewhat local for me. If I actually checked KREM.com for more than school closure updates on snowy days then I probably would have seen this story before I did here.
These kind of brainiacs deserve an 'Idaho' tag.
 
2012-07-24 02:39:04 PM

Kanemano: GAT_00: Pro-tip: nobody checks $5s and $1s to see if they are real, and only a few people bother with $10s. Don't try to deposit them yourself and you've got a pretty good shot of getting away with it.

and it will take a minimum of 2,000 transactions (2,000 chances to get caught) for $10,000,

don't steal less than a years salary


Your annual salary or mine? Because I wouldn't piss on your salary if it was on fire.
 
2012-07-24 02:39:52 PM
Wait until they get a load of my counterfeit pennies.
 
2012-07-24 02:41:31 PM

RaverRevolution: What if the guy wants to counterfeit higher bills, but used a 1 in this case as a test to see if it would pass.


But if it only passes because it's a $1 bill and not a $20 and even then it gets caught eventually by the clerk was it really worth it and did you really accomplish anything? The risk for making and using a counterfeit $1 dollar bill is the same as a $20 so in all honesty it really is stupid.
 
2012-07-24 02:42:32 PM
Racketeer Nickel.

In 1883 the U.S. Mint released a new design for their 5 cent (nickel) pieces. Designed by Charles Barber, this newly released coin was called the "Liberty Head Nickel" and just as commonly referred to as the "V Nickel" as it bared a large V on the reverse.

As the V is the roman numeral for 5, it was used to denote its denomination. The original design did not bare the words "cents" anywhere on the coin, and only had the V to denote the coins value. Unfortunately, these coins lacking "cents" and being of the same size as the $5 gold coins, counterfeiters saw this as a golden opportunity (pun intended) to defraud the general public and quickly began gold plating these coins and passed them off as $5 gold coins. The U.S. mint quickly became aware of this and later in the year the word "cents" were added to the coins production.

These counterfeit coins are now commonly referred to as Racketeer nickels. The most famous case of these criminal Racketeer nickels was of a man named Josh Tatum. Josh was deaf and could not speak. His practice would be to go to cigar stands and purchase a 5 cent cigar, pay with the racketeer nickel, and because the clerks assumed they were $5 gold coins, they offered $4.95 change. Josh Tatum was actually acquitted and never found guilty of any wrong doing as he never told the attendant that they were $5 coins, he couldn't because he couldn't speak.
 
2012-07-24 02:44:30 PM

bikerbob59: Wait until they get a load of my counterfeit pennies.


The thing that will give you away is using pure copper.
 
2012-07-24 02:51:06 PM

jtown: bikerbob59: Wait until they get a load of my counterfeit pennies.

The thing that will give you away is using pure copper.


Not if the dates are all pre-1982.
 
2012-07-24 02:54:40 PM

bikerbob59: Wait until they get a load of my counterfeit pennies.


I"ll believe it only if they are as pennies
 
2012-07-24 03:00:20 PM
I would imagine a good counterfeit bill that's $1, 5, or 10 wouldn't likely get checked and be easier to pass. However I imagine the cost of making a good counterfeit bill would mean making a lot of them which would make getting caught more likely.

It sounds a bit like this guy was making them on a regular color printer. Not really worth it at that point.
 
2012-07-24 03:01:50 PM
Talk about a counterfiter with low self esteem.
 
2012-07-24 03:07:46 PM
From TFA, "bill" not bills. a single 1$ bill was found.
 
2012-07-24 03:09:00 PM

State_College_Arsonist: He should have cloned twenties. Jackson wouldn't have given a shiat.


I received an old style 20 (1977), without any security features, from the ATM today. I think I'll hold it till I come across an 18 year old cashier, then act very suspicious when I hand it over.
 
2012-07-24 03:21:03 PM

TsarTom: the hamburger on the black market for cost.



black market....hamburger?
 
2012-07-24 03:22:43 PM

RaverRevolution: What if the guy wants to counterfeit higher bills, but used a 1 in this case as a test to see if it would pass.


That would be stupid, because no one checks $1 bills at all. I bet at most places, you could scan and print some $1's and stack them in between real ones, and most of the time pass them off easily.
 
2012-07-24 03:23:36 PM
It makes 100% sense to forge $1 bills if you can make something that vending machines will accept...
 
2012-07-24 03:24:55 PM

uber humper: State_College_Arsonist: He should have cloned twenties. Jackson wouldn't have given a shiat.

I received an old style 20 (1977), without any security features, from the ATM today. I think I'll hold it till I come across an 18 year old cashier, then act very suspicious when I hand it over.


I wonder... why don't counterfeiters make $20s in the style of 1970's money? Or do they? Any money ever issued is valid at face value.
 
2012-07-24 03:25:54 PM
And then live like a king out of vending machines the world over!
 
2012-07-24 03:27:34 PM
CSB:

When I was in high school (~2001), a couple of people in my classes figured out what stock of paper fake $1 bills needed to be printed on to get the vending machines on campus to accept them. It seemed like every day for a month they'd have as much soda and candy as they could stomach...until the Secret Service showed up wanting to locate the culprits in early March...needless to say, no one saw either of them around school for the rest of the school year.

/CSB
 
2012-07-24 03:27:59 PM

Joce678: It makes 100% sense to forge $1 bills if you can make something that vending machines will accept...


The secret service does not take any counterfieting lightly. I don't think your sentence, if convicted, would be *that* much different depending on how much money you counterfeit.
 
2012-07-24 03:43:43 PM

Pocket Ninja: Ha I dunno which is funnier -- the fake $1 bill, or the perfectly legal $2 bill I almost got arrested for spending at a Taco Bell about ten years ago. They called mall security on me, he handcuffed me & called the cops. There were about 30 people standing around, and I was the *only* one who knew the $2 bill was legit -- until the cop showed up.


Sadly those 30 people are allowed to vote. And some of them even will.
 
2012-07-24 03:47:30 PM

lilbjorn: Pocket Ninja: Ha I dunno which is funnier -- the fake $1 bill, or the perfectly legal $2 bill I almost got arrested for spending at a Taco Bell about ten years ago. They called mall security on me, he handcuffed me & called the cops. There were about 30 people standing around, and I was the *only* one who knew the $2 bill was legit -- until the cop showed up.

Sadly those 30 people are allowed to vote. And some of them even will.


i bet you ordered the 99 cent Beefy Melt Burrito

1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2012-07-24 03:50:15 PM
Best dumb criminal/counterfeiter story I ever heard was about a guy who cut the corners off of a $20 and pasted them on a $1 and tried to pass it off as a 20. It cost him $21 to make and he still got caught. Maybe he thought he'd make it up on volume.
 
2012-07-24 03:58:54 PM

cannotsuggestaname: pocket ninja is the friend of a friend that had this happen to him. It's true because I read it on the internet.


I actualy had a real 2 dollar bill experience. At a Taco Bell, no less.
I paid using a combination of other money, and trusty $2 bill.
The lady says 'I can't accept this."
Why not?
Because we don't accept these.
You do know that it is legal currency right?
Yes.
So WHY can't you accept it?
Because there is no slot in the register for it. I have 1s, 5s, 10s, and 20s, but I don't have a slot to put this in, that's why I can't take it.
You know you could just put it in the 20 slot. They both start with '2', so it should be ok.
Oh! yeah! I guess that makes sense! (It really doesn't, lady. Seriously?)

And then she took my $2 bill and I got my food.
/Not as good as PN's story that he tells every chance he gets. But this one is real.
 
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