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2012-07-24 08:19:09 PM  
Chik fila rocks.
Shove your silly political crap.
 
2012-07-24 08:32:27 PM  
Mugato

Buffalo77: You know the answer before I even write it.

I take it on faith.

If you all take this stuff on faith then stop presenting to other people as fact and get all pissy when everyone else isn't on board.

/not directed to you specifically


I don't think anyone presents their opinion as fact on either side - left or right.

I know Christians who believe anyone that doesn't believe that JC is their savior is doomed to hell. My opinion is that your ultimate destination is revealed to you in different ways - be you christian, muslim, buddhist, Jedi or whatever. Rarely are facts ever presented in Fark, its all opinion or interpretation.

With regards to others, you may believe you have to convert people to their way. OK, but if I tell you to STFU and get out of my face, then you should or we have a problem.
 
2012-07-24 09:44:05 PM  
I wonder if all those calling for boycotts (on either side) bother to check their 401k investments to see exactly where all their money is going. there are a lot more important things to worry about in this world than if a chicken fast food place gives money to anti gay groups or if Disney is supporting the gay agenda.

if a product or device is good and they treat their employees well, I don't care what they do with their profits.
 
2012-07-24 09:46:57 PM  
We're all missing the most serious question in here.

Is Zaxby's any good and is it worth stopping the next time I'm in the South and not in Louisiana?
 
2012-07-24 09:58:07 PM  

Mrtraveler01: We're all missing the most serious question in here.

Is Zaxby's any good and is it worth stopping the next time I'm in the South and not in Louisiana?


I believe it is. But I'd shoot for a mom and pop diner, where the locals eat. You're guaranteed a good chicken dinner at most of those places.

Shirley's Country Kitchen in Newnan GA, for instance. I've submitted her place to Diners, Drive Ins and Dives. Her fried chicken is heavenly and her banana pudding is sublime. All the veggies are out of her garden, and her kids work the line.
 
2012-07-24 10:00:06 PM  
 
2012-07-24 10:10:47 PM  

Waldo Pepper: Link


I feel sorry for the logic they tied up and raped just to reach that kind of conclusion.

/The Police was just on the radio
 
2012-07-24 10:14:24 PM  
This is what's wrong with America: you call evil good and good evil. "Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' - Matt 19.4. AT THE BEGINNING..... If you have a problem with God's view of homosexuality (which He calls an abomination), then you've got a BIG problem and one you're going to lose on. God doesn't change His mind because the world changes its--the world WILL change its mind to be in line with God's.
 
2012-07-24 10:18:12 PM  

tony41454: This is what's wrong with America: you call evil good and good evil. "Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' - Matt 19.4. AT THE BEGINNING..... If you have a problem with God's view of homosexuality (which He calls an abomination), then you've got a BIG problem and one you're going to lose on. God doesn't change His mind because the world changes its--the world WILL change its mind to be in line with God's.


I hope you don't eat shellfish or wear polyester clothes. Or else you're going to burn in hell with the rest of us heathens.

See you threre! ;)
 
2012-07-24 10:36:40 PM  
Mrtraveler01

tony41454: This is what's wrong with America: you call evil good and good evil. "Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' - Matt 19.4. AT THE BEGINNING..... If you have a problem with God's view of homosexuality (which He calls an abomination), then you've got a BIG problem and one you're going to lose on. God doesn't change His mind because the world changes its--the world WILL change its mind to be in line with God's.

I hope you don't eat shellfish or wear polyester clothes. Or else you're going to burn in hell with the rest of us heathens.

See you threre! ;)


Nope. That was overridden by Acts 10:9-19.
 
2012-07-24 10:38:12 PM  

tony41454: Nope. That was overridden by Acts 10:9-19.


You just said He doesn't change his mind.
 
2012-07-24 10:39:04 PM  

Mugato: tony41454: Nope. That was overridden by Acts 10:9-19.

You just said He doesn't change his mind.


Well, apparently He does when it fits one's agenda. How conveeenient.
 
2012-07-24 10:46:18 PM  

tony41454: Mrtraveler01

tony41454: This is what's wrong with America: you call evil good and good evil. "Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' - Matt 19.4. AT THE BEGINNING..... If you have a problem with God's view of homosexuality (which He calls an abomination), then you've got a BIG problem and one you're going to lose on. God doesn't change His mind because the world changes its--the world WILL change its mind to be in line with God's.

I hope you don't eat shellfish or wear polyester clothes. Or else you're going to burn in hell with the rest of us heathens.

See you threre! ;)

Nope. That was overridden by Acts 10:9-19.


So the same stuff that you guys love to use to justify your bigtory towards gays was overrideen by Acts 10:9-19 according to you?
 
2012-07-24 10:50:16 PM  

tgregory: I think the biggest dick out of all of this is the mayor of Boston.


You? Think?

Good one.

Menino is well aware that Chick Fil-A is a political football in Boston despite the fact that there are two franchises out in the burbs already. Earlier Chick Fil-A's plans to open a franchise in Boston's Northeastern University were ground to a halt when student protests convinced school administrators to nix the plans. Menino has already successfully kept a Wal Mart out of his turf by making necessary licenses next to impossible for them to get and his constituents seem to like him for it. I imagine he will employ similar tactics here.

Dick move, you say?

Cathy has donated at least 5 million to date to anti-gay crusades and has now come out on the record as saying he thinks gay marriage will lead to God's Wrath being visited upon the USA.

I'd say that was the bigger dick move myself.

Not being tolerant of bigotry is not a form of bigotry itself.

Good on the Muppet folk for cutting ties with these guys.
 
2012-07-24 10:59:54 PM  
freetomato

Mugato: tony41454: Nope. That was overridden by Acts 10:9-19.

You just said He doesn't change his mind.

Well, apparently He does when it fits one's agenda. How conveeenient.



He doesn't. The OT law (to the Jews) to not eat shellfish was part of the "Law" that God gave the Jews to live by, which, of course, they couldn't, because it was too hard. Thus they were always offering sacrifices and stuff to make up for it. So God sent Jesus, His own Son, to be a sacrifice for us all, because in Him, the Law is fulfilled. Thus, we are not bound by the "don't eat this" "don't wear that" instructions (which were set up by God to prove to us that we couldn't live a perfect life and that we needed a Savior who would do that for us). Of course, the OT is much more than just Jewish Law, it's stories, history, psalms and, of course, instruction. Homosexuality was condemned in the OT, and it was also condemned in the NT, therefore it's not something God wants us to do, ever. God doesn't change. His ways are forever.

Here is an instance where the Bible does says God "changed His mind," but in reading the commentary, you find out that He really doesn't. He knew what He was going to do all along.
Link

But I was correct in saying that God doesn't change his mind in relation to people wanting to do things that He's commanded us not to do. God doesn't bow to peer pressure (He has no peers!). Look at what happened at the flood: all the world was engaging in evil continually. Did God say, Wow, Everybody's doing this, maybe I'll just go with the flow? No. He brought the flood and judged them. God don't take sin lightly.
 
2012-07-24 11:01:59 PM  
tony41454 (favorite: Moron): This is what's wrong with America: you call evil good and good evil. "Haven't you read," he replied, "that at the beginning the Creator 'made them male and female,' - Matt 19.4. AT THE BEGINNING..... If you have a problem with God's view of homosexuality (which He calls an abomination), then you've got a BIG problem and one you're going to lose on. God doesn't change His mind because the world changes its--the world WILL change its mind to be in line with God's.

Who is awesome? You are
 
2012-07-24 11:06:56 PM  

tony41454: He doesn't. The OT law (to the Jews) to not eat shellfish was part of the "Law" that God gave the Jews to live by, which, of course, they couldn't, because it was too hard. Thus they were always offering sacrifices and stuff to make up for it. So God sent Jesus, His own Son, to be a sacrifice for us all, because in Him, the Law is fulfilled. Thus, we are not bound by the "don't eat this" "don't wear that" instructions (which were set up by God to prove to us that we couldn't live a perfect life and that we needed a Savior who would do that for us). Of course, the OT is much more than just Jewish Law, it's stories, history, psalms and, of course, instruction. Homosexuality was condemned in the OT, and it was also condemned in the NT, therefore it's not something God wants us to do, ever. God doesn't change. His ways are forever.

Here is an instance where the Bible does says God "changed His mind," but in reading the commentary, you find out that He really doesn't. He knew what He was going to do all along.
Link

But I was correct in saying that God doesn't change his mind in relation to people wanting to do things that He's commanded us not to do.


The fact that you don't see the contradiction in your own post makes my own head hurt.
 
2012-07-24 11:16:36 PM  

Mrtraveler01: The fact that you don't see the contradiction in your own post makes my own head hurt.


Really? Because mine exploded. Luckily my brain stem is intact, which is all I need to argue with a Bible thumper and I can touch type.
 
2012-07-24 11:21:45 PM  
Mrtraveler01 and Mugato, there is a reason you guys show up in a pleasing shade of green. You always express what this mostly lurking Farkette feels quite well. I'm quite faithful in my own way, and can't help but feel Jesus (who I think is a pretty cool dude) would be quite displeased with the excuses for their bigotry many Christians come up with.
 
2012-07-24 11:23:33 PM  

freetomato: Mrtraveler01 and Mugato, there is a reason you guys show up in a pleasing shade of green. You always express what this mostly lurking Farkette feels quite well. I'm quite faithful in my own way, and can't help but feel Jesus (who I think is a pretty cool dude) would be quite displeased with the excuses for their bigotry many Christians come up with.


Thank you, Miss.
 
2012-07-24 11:29:22 PM  

freetomato: Mrtraveler01 and Mugato, there is a reason you guys show up in a pleasing shade of green. You always express what this mostly lurking Farkette feels quite well. I'm quite faithful in my own way, and can't help but feel Jesus (who I think is a pretty cool dude) would be quite displeased with the excuses for their bigotry many Christians come up with.


Thanks. It's quite refreshing to see that there are Christians like us still out there (although I still feel like we're a dying breed being replaced by a bunch of prosperity gospel tards).
 
2012-07-24 11:30:38 PM  
Mrtraveler01

tony41454: He doesn't. The OT law (to the Jews) to not eat shellfish was part of the "Law" that God gave the Jews to live by, which, of course, they couldn't, because it was too hard. Thus they were always offering sacrifices and stuff to make up for it. So God sent Jesus, His own Son, to be a sacrifice for us all, because in Him, the Law is fulfilled. Thus, we are not bound by the "don't eat this" "don't wear that" instructions (which were set up by God to prove to us that we couldn't live a perfect life and that we needed a Savior who would do that for us). Of course, the OT is much more than just Jewish Law, it's stories, history, psalms and, of course, instruction. Homosexuality was condemned in the OT, and it was also condemned in the NT, therefore it's not something God wants us to do, ever. God doesn't change. His ways are forever.

Here is an instance where the Bible does says God "changed His mind," but in reading the commentary, you find out that He really doesn't. He knew what He was going to do all along.
Link

But I was correct in saying that God doesn't change his mind in relation to people wanting to do things that He's commanded us not to do.

The fact that you don't see the contradiction in your own post makes my own head hurt.


The fact that you don't see means you're probably not saved. A most precarious position!
 
2012-07-24 11:33:38 PM  
freetomato:

Mrtraveler01 and Mugato, there is a reason you guys show up in a pleasing shade of green. You always express what this mostly lurking Farkette feels quite well. I'm quite faithful in my own way, and can't help but feel Jesus (who I think is a pretty cool dude) would be quite displeased with the excuses for their bigotry many Christians come up with.

Thank you, Miss.


It's obvious you only read the parts of the Bible that don't make you uncomfortable or feel convicted. Shame.
 
2012-07-24 11:38:41 PM  

tony41454: Mrtraveler01

tony41454: He doesn't. The OT law (to the Jews) to not eat shellfish was part of the "Law" that God gave the Jews to live by, which, of course, they couldn't, because it was too hard. Thus they were always offering sacrifices and stuff to make up for it. So God sent Jesus, His own Son, to be a sacrifice for us all, because in Him, the Law is fulfilled. Thus, we are not bound by the "don't eat this" "don't wear that" instructions (which were set up by God to prove to us that we couldn't live a perfect life and that we needed a Savior who would do that for us). Of course, the OT is much more than just Jewish Law, it's stories, history, psalms and, of course, instruction. Homosexuality was condemned in the OT, and it was also condemned in the NT, therefore it's not something God wants us to do, ever. God doesn't change. His ways are forever.

Here is an instance where the Bible does says God "changed His mind," but in reading the commentary, you find out that He really doesn't. He knew what He was going to do all along.
Link

But I was correct in saying that God doesn't change his mind in relation to people wanting to do things that He's commanded us not to do.

The fact that you don't see the contradiction in your own post makes my own head hurt.

The fact that you don't see means you're probably not saved. A most precarious position!


So the Laws of Leviticus were overriden by God, but the Law of Leviticus dealing with gays didn't get overriden?

If 41454 stands for your zip code (AL), I can finally understand how someone can be so stupid and lack the most basic of critical thinking abilities.
 
2012-07-24 11:49:57 PM  
The next time I eat at Chik-Fil-A will be on a Sunday.
 
2012-07-24 11:51:04 PM  

tony41454: It's obvious you only read the parts of the Bible that don't make you uncomfortable or feel convicted. Shame.


It's obvious you read some parts of the Bible, partition your brain and use it to read the parts that conflict with the other parts so they don't collide.
 
2012-07-24 11:51:43 PM  
The Bible clearly states that homosexuality is a sin: Genesis 19:4-7; Leviticus 18:22-28; Judges 19:22; 1Corinthians 6:9; 1Timothy 1:10; Romans 1:26, 27 and Jude 1:7, 10. In both books. In lots of places. It's a recurring theme. If it's condemned in the OT and upheld as condemned in the NT, then it's something God has condemned. Period. There is no place in the Bible where homosexuality is looked at favorably. So it's a sin. Should sin be condoned? Should it be celebrated? Should it be forced upon the public by law? What about adulterers? Shouldn't they have rights, too? A right to cheat on their life partner without any consequence? And pedophiles? Don't they have rights? Where does it stop? Sin begets sin. Bad behavior begets bad behavior. There is a certain way God wants us to live. It's not bigotry. It's called righteousness. And you can't get into Heaven without it. So if you want your "heaven" here on earth, by golly, that's all you're going to get, because there's a pretty good chance you won't be getting any in the hereafter.
 
2012-07-25 12:02:53 AM  
Heh, I found this in the Bible:

Genesis 19:6-8 (Lot is very nice to offer a bunch of virgin girls to these rapists)

6 Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him 7 and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing. 8 Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don't do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof."


BTW, this sounds more like rape than gay sex:

9 "Get out of our way," they replied. "This fellow came here as a foreigner, and now he wants to play the judge! We'll treat you worse than them." They kept bringing pressure on Lot and moved forward to break down the door.
 
2012-07-25 12:03:43 AM  
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Sorry I'm so late to the party. I wanted to make this picture last night but did not get around to it until just now
 
2012-07-25 12:05:50 AM  

Mrtraveler01: Heh, I found this in the Bible:


The old Testament has some farked up shiat in it about marriage. I don't care if God "changed his mind" later or not. You have to be deranged to come up with some of that in the first place.

What kind of God just changes his mind anyway?
 
2012-07-25 12:06:52 AM  

pootsie: [img821.imageshack.us image 800x622]

Sorry I'm so late to the party. I wanted to make this picture last night but did not get around to it until just now


Good job. Is that a font or did you draw that?
 
2012-07-25 12:08:01 AM  
1 Timothy:

8 We know that the law is good if one uses it properly. 9 We also know that the law is made not for the righteous but for lawbreakers and rebels, the ungodly and sinful, the unholy and irreligious, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, 10 for the sexually immoral, for those practicing homosexuality, for slave traders and liars and perjurers-and for whatever else is contrary to the sound doctrine 11 that conforms to the gospel concerning the glory of the blessed God, which he entrusted to me.


So we hold politicians, right-wing blog writers to these same standards then too right?
 
2012-07-25 12:13:22 AM  
The Bible can be real profound sometimes:

Romans 1: 21-25

21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.


Looking at you Prosperity Gospel heretics.
 
2012-07-25 12:17:22 AM  

Myria: The next time I eat at Chik-Fil-A will be on a Sunday.


But you'd have to buy it on a Saturday, and eat it the next day. It doesn't re-heat well. I've tried. The crust on the chicken gets all soggy, and the waffle fries need to be re-fried. Just go to Zaxby's, and act as gay as possible (wave flags, wiggle-hip-dance in short shorts in the lobby) and nobody will care. Or make your own!
 
2012-07-25 12:21:34 AM  

Myria: The next time I eat at Chik-Fil-A will be on a Sunday.


I think if you break into a CfA on a Sunday and make the food yourself, I'm pretty sure they have to burn the entire building down and salt the earth. It's in the employee's manual.
 
2012-07-25 12:30:18 AM  
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2012-07-25 12:30:43 AM  

Mugato: pootsie: [img821.imageshack.us image 800x622]

Sorry I'm so late to the party. I wanted to make this picture last night but did not get around to it until just now

Good job. Is that a font or did you draw that?


Thanks. I just shooped the letters from their ad
 
2012-07-25 12:58:47 AM  
Jon Steward always awsome!
 
2012-07-25 01:16:46 AM  
I assume Chik-Fil-A is the official fast food chain of the Boy Scouts of America.
 
2012-07-25 01:57:02 AM  
Actually Im surprised none of the franchise owners have talked about suing over damage to the franchise. Personally I think this sort of thing has no place in business.

(Although keep an eye on the jews, those folks know how to make a penny)
 
2012-07-25 02:50:30 AM  

Jim_Callahan: I find it really hard to respect anyone involved in this stupid nontroversy, either the owner of the chain for stupidly mixing religion with business or the idiot protesters that actually think this is worth an organized boycott.

Do we as a country seriously not have anything better to do than worry over whether our fast food has non-food-related political associations? Pick your battles, man.

//Unless Chick Fil-a has crossed a line into something actually illegal, in which case obviously feel free to exact the appropriate penalty.


Dude, it's not that big of a deal. I'm not eating there. I'm not losing sleep over it...
 
2012-07-25 06:21:57 AM  

tony41454: The Bible clearly states that homosexuality is a sin: Genesis 19:4-7; Leviticus 18:22-28; Judges 19:22; 1Corinthians 6:9; 1Timothy 1:10; Romans 1:26, 27 and Jude 1:7, 10. In both books. In lots of places. It's a recurring theme. If it's condemned in the OT and upheld as condemned in the NT, then it's something God has condemned. Period. There is no place in the Bible where homosexuality is looked at favorably. So it's a sin. Should sin be condoned? Should it be celebrated? Should it be forced upon the public by law? What about adulterers? Shouldn't they have rights, too? A right to cheat on their life partner without any consequence? And pedophiles? Don't they have rights? Where does it stop? Sin begets sin. Bad behavior begets bad behavior. There is a certain way God wants us to live. It's not bigotry. It's called righteousness. And you can't get into Heaven without it. So if you want your "heaven" here on earth, by golly, that's all you're going to get, because there's a pretty good chance you won't be getting any in the hereafter.


I don't give a damn about what the bible says, because the bible is not in the Constitution.
 
2012-07-25 06:38:16 AM  

tony41454: The Bible clearly states that homosexuality is a sin: Genesis 19:4-7; Leviticus 18:22-28; Judges 19:22; 1Corinthians 6:9; 1Timothy 1:10; Romans 1:26, 27 and Jude 1:7, 10. In both books. In lots of places. It's a recurring theme. If it's condemned in the OT and upheld as condemned in the NT, then it's something God has condemned. Period. There is no place in the Bible where homosexuality is looked at favorably. So it's a sin. Should sin be condoned? Should it be celebrated? Should it be forced upon the public by law? What about adulterers? Shouldn't they have rights, too? A right to cheat on their life partner without any consequence? And pedophiles? Don't they have rights? Where does it stop? Sin begets sin. Bad behavior begets bad behavior. There is a certain way God wants us to live. It's not bigotry. It's called righteousness. And you can't get into Heaven without it. So if you want your "heaven" here on earth, by golly, that's all you're going to get, because there's a pretty good chance you won't be getting any in the hereafter.


Here's the thing.

To people who aren't in your version of Christianity the only sin here the sin of bigotry and you are the one guilty of it.

You are a bad person and you should feel bad but your morals are too unevolved for you to even process this simple truth.
 
2012-07-25 06:45:07 AM  

tony41454: Where does it stop? Sin begets sin. Bad behavior begets bad behavior. There is a certain way God wants us to live. It's not bigotry. It's called righteousness. And you can't get into Heaven without it. So if you want your "heaven" here on earth, by golly, that's all you're going to get, because there's a pretty good chance you won't be getting any in the hereafter.


www.toptenz.net
 
2012-07-25 10:11:04 AM  

tony41454: he Bible clearly states that homosexuality is a sin: Genesis 19:4-7; Leviticus 18:22-28; Judges 19:22; 1Corinthians 6:9; 1Timothy 1:10; Romans 1:26, 27 and Jude 1:7, 10.


Nope. It is impossible for a society that didn't think of human sexuality in the way we do today to comment on it.

Sodom is a story about inhospitality to strangers, not homosexuality. See Ezekiel 16.

Leviticus talks about a specific act. Homosexuality is not defined by a specific act that is practiced by less than half of all modern homosexuals. Indeed, many straight people participated in the act as well (rape, fertility rituals). In addition, Leviticus contains a lot of banning of everyday behaviour, and picking and choosing here makes you quite the hypocrite. And we know what Jesus thought of the hypocrites.

Judges is simply a repeat of Sodom. Raping a stranger in order to humiliate and show them that they are not welcome, a common practice in those times.

Corinthians and Timothy are bad translations of a word Paul coined, "arsenokoitai". It didn't exist before Paul used it, and he provides no context (the words appear in lists). However a later use of the word in a text provides some context. If we take the word to mean homosexuality in this text, the sentence would be translated as "And the Men performed homosexuality with their wives". So it's unlikely that this word means homosexuality.

Romans might be one of your best bets for an argument against homosexuality in the Bible, but unfortunately, Paul clearly ties it to pagan rituals. These kinds of rituals were quite common. We all know about the infamous Roman orgies. However, the participants in these fertility rituals and orgies were not necessarily homosexuals. In fact, they were attended by lots of people who would go home at the end of the day to their heterosexual spouse and families.

Jude is a terrible example. The original Greek for "strange flesh" in the KJV is hetero sarkas. You know, the same word we get heterosexual from. I know why this is and what it means. Do you? Or are you just one of those people that takes the Bible at face value and sees what you want to see in it?
 
2012-07-25 11:50:05 AM  

snarfyboy


tony41454: he Bible clearly states that homosexuality is a sin: Genesis 19:4-7; Leviticus 18:22-28; Judges 19:22; 1Corinthians 6:9; 1Timothy 1:10; Romans 1:26, 27 and Jude 1:7, 10.

Nope. It is impossible for a society that didn't think of human sexuality in the way we do today to comment on it.

Sodom is a story about inhospitality to strangers, not homosexuality. See Ezekiel 16.

Leviticus talks about a specific act. Homosexuality is not defined by a specific act that is practiced by less than half of all modern homosexuals. Indeed, many straight people participated in the act as well (rape, fertility rituals). In addition, Leviticus contains a lot of banning of everyday behaviour, and picking and choosing here makes you quite the hypocrite. And we know what Jesus thought of the hypocrites.

Judges is simply a repeat of Sodom. Raping a stranger in order to humiliate and show them that they are not welcome, a common practice in those times.

Corinthians and Timothy are bad translations of a word Paul coined, "arsenokoitai". It didn't exist before Paul used it, and he provides no context (the words appear in lists). However a later use of the word in a text provides some context. If we take the word to mean homosexuality in this text, the sentence would be translated as "And the Men performed homosexuality with their wives". So it's unlikely that this word means homosexuality.

Romans might be one of your best bets for an argument against homosexuality in the Bible, but unfortunately, Paul clearly ties it to pagan rituals. These kinds of rituals were quite common. We all know about the infamous Roman orgies. However, the participants in these fertility rituals and orgies were not necessarily homosexuals. In fact, they were attended by lots of people who would go home at the end of the day to their heterosexual spouse and families.

Jude is a terrible example. The original Greek for "strange flesh" in the KJV is hetero sarkas. You know, the same word we get heterosexual from. I know why this is and what it means. Do you? Or are you just one of those people that takes the Bible at face value and sees what you want to see in it?



You clearly need a good Bible scholar to talk to. That or the Holy Spirit. Sheesh!
 
2012-07-25 11:53:52 AM  

tony41454: You clearly need a good Bible scholar to talk to. That or the Holy Spirit. Sheesh!


So... you've got nothin'. Got to love the people that are completely ignorant of their own religion.

/P.S. My information comes from reading books by scholars - in religion, history and language.
 
2012-07-25 11:56:16 AM  

snarfyboy: My information comes from reading books by scholars


There's your problem, right there. Biblical truth comes from the pulpit and the interpretations of the clergy, not from scholars.
 
2012-07-25 01:02:39 PM  
I just want to thank all of you desperate straight people for telling us poor gay and bisexual people what we should be offended by.

I am going to continue going to Chick-Fil-A despite the 300 comments above that I didn't read. Go find something else to rage about, because this smells like "pathetic pseudo-outrage" to me.
 
2012-07-25 03:14:08 PM  
Mugato:
So which is it, is he an empty suit that can't stand up to Congress and can't get anything done or is he Emperor Palatine?

Its actually a little bit of both. His ego could apply for statehood, but when he is pushed to the wall, he folds like a tent. This is what happens when you are hopelessly unprepared to be President and sail into office simply because your predecessor was so terrible.

Bush sucked, but I refuse to believe Romney will be anything but a moderate. And dont give me the "same economic team" as Bush- Obama rehired ALL of the same people from the Bush era bailout.
 
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