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(The Atlantic Wire)   So how bad are things in Greece really? Let's put it this way: The city of Boston has a bigger economy, and a slightly less corrupt government   (theatlanticwire.com) divider line 24
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2012-07-24 11:24:29 AM  
probably has more people paying tax too.
 
2012-07-24 11:44:46 AM  
I will take in 1.. nay.. 3 beautiful 21-28 yr old Greek females that wish to visit the U.S for an expended period of time.
All I ask is for great sex, in exchange for food, shelter, and an expense account.

/must love dogs
 
2012-07-24 11:46:20 AM  

SageTemple: probably has more people paying tax too.


The amount of people I've seen drive to New Hamshire just to avoid a nickle in sales tax might put this claim in doubt.

The simple fact that Boston might have a less corrupt government says something, though
 
2012-07-24 12:15:26 PM  

Dr.Knockboots: I will take in 1.. nay.. 3 beautiful 21-28 yr old Greek females that wish to visit the U.S for an expended period of time.
All I ask is for great sex, in exchange for food, shelter, and an expense account.

/must love dogs


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I'd guess 3-4 as well. I'd wear out one way too fast
 
2012-07-24 12:26:02 PM  
It's all those back door shennannegans.
 
2012-07-24 02:09:17 PM  

Mugato: It's all those back door shennannegans.


Boston is not lacking in those:

therecoveringpolitician.com

/yeah, I know he's from the suburbs
//but those are much more nebulous in Boston compared to most cities
 
2012-07-24 02:18:22 PM  
Did I forget to mention, the Atlanta metro area had a GDP of $283.8 billion last year, just behind the Greeks.
 
2012-07-24 02:30:32 PM  
As a New Yorker, I approve of this story being tagged "New York metropolitan area". That's right Boston, you're just a really far flung suburb of ours now. Second rate - just like your sports teams.
 
2012-07-24 02:31:15 PM  

Dr.Knockboots: /must love dogs


Given the rest of your post I must ask. They must love dogs, or they must loooooove dogs? Because I have a feeling that part might be a deal breaker for a substantial portion of the 21-28 year old Greek female population.
 
2012-07-24 02:32:00 PM  

Dr.Knockboots: I will take in 1.. nay.. 3 beautiful 21-28 yr old Greek females that wish to visit the U.S for an expended period of time.
All I ask is for great sex, in exchange for food, shelter, and an expense account.

/must love dogs


um... I don't think dogs are what the Greeks are known for
 
2012-07-24 03:28:20 PM  
For comparison's sake as of July 1, 2011 the population estimate for Boston-Cambridge-Quincy was 4,591,112 and for Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta was 5,359,205, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. The July 2011 estimate for Greece, via the CIA, was 10,767,827.

I'm surprised that these cities are only twice as productive per capita than Greece. Seriously, I thought it would be triple for a few reasons.

1. Greece doesn't export many high margin products (outside of ships but they're competing with Korea, China, and Japan).
2. Greece has a poor infrastructure partly as a consequence of its difficult terrain.
3. Greece has a higher proportion of old people than Atlanta or Boston.

For a better comparison look at Tampa metro vs. Greece.

Tampa-St. Pete Metro - GDP 115.2, population, 4,228,855
Greece - GDP 299.1, population 10,767,827.

Therefore, 2.72 GDP per capita for Tampa vs. 2.57 GDP per capita for Greece.

So Tampa is almost as unproductive as Greece. This is why you don't cherry-pick data.
 
2012-07-24 03:28:49 PM  

urger: As a New Yorker, I approve of this story being tagged "New York metropolitan area". That's right Boston, you're just a really far flung suburb of ours now. Second rate - just like your sports teams.


New Yorkers need to look deeply into obscure and irrelevant details to combat their inferiority complexes -- we get it.

/not even from Boston, but wow what a stupid comment you made.
 
2012-07-24 03:56:56 PM  
urger: As a New Yorker, I approve of this story being tagged "New York metropolitan area". That's right Boston, you're just a really far flung suburb of ours now. Second rate - just like your sports teams.

Sucks not to be tittle town USA, huh?

Plus we got your armpit buffer-zone between us: Connecticut.
 
2012-07-24 04:13:48 PM  

enik: urger: As a New Yorker, I approve of this story being tagged "New York metropolitan area". That's right Boston, you're just a really far flung suburb of ours now. Second rate - just like your sports teams.

New Yorkers need to look deeply into obscure and irrelevant details to combat their inferiority complexes -- we get it.

/not even from Boston, but wow what a stupid comment you made.


TyrantII: urger: As a New Yorker, I approve of this story being tagged "New York metropolitan area". That's right Boston, you're just a really far flung suburb of ours now. Second rate - just like your sports teams.

Sucks not to be tittle town USA, huh?

Plus we got your armpit buffer-zone between us: Connecticut.


I bet a co-worker a beer after work that someone would bite. Thanks for the free beer!
 
2012-07-24 04:22:26 PM  

urger: enik: urger: As a New Yorker, I approve of this story being tagged "New York metropolitan area". That's right Boston, you're just a really far flung suburb of ours now. Second rate - just like your sports teams.

New Yorkers need to look deeply into obscure and irrelevant details to combat their inferiority complexes -- we get it.

/not even from Boston, but wow what a stupid comment you made.

TyrantII: urger: As a New Yorker, I approve of this story being tagged "New York metropolitan area". That's right Boston, you're just a really far flung suburb of ours now. Second rate - just like your sports teams.

Sucks not to be tittle town USA, huh?

Plus we got your armpit buffer-zone between us: Connecticut.

I bet a co-worker a beer after work that someone would bite. Thanks for the free beer!


Well that was a total sucker bet. Good job!
 
2012-07-24 04:38:34 PM  

Rapmaster2000: For comparison's sake as of July 1, 2011 the population estimate for Boston-Cambridge-Quincy was 4,591,112 and for Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta was 5,359,205, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. The July 2011 estimate for Greece, via the CIA, was 10,767,827.

I'm surprised that these cities are only twice as productive per capita than Greece. Seriously, I thought it would be triple for a few reasons.

1. Greece doesn't export many high margin products (outside of ships but they're competing with Korea, China, and Japan).
2. Greece has a poor infrastructure partly as a consequence of its difficult terrain.
3. Greece has a higher proportion of old people than Atlanta or Boston.

For a better comparison look at Tampa metro vs. Greece.

Tampa-St. Pete Metro - GDP 115.2, population, 4,228,855
Greece - GDP 299.1, population 10,767,827.

Therefore, 2.72 GDP per capita for Tampa vs. 2.57 GDP per capita for Greece.

So Tampa is almost as unproductive as Greece. This is why you don't cherry-pick data.


Isn't Tampa full of old retirees? And one's a country and the other isn't. So I can see how Greece is in a wee bit of trouble.
 
2012-07-24 05:20:23 PM  

Shazam999: Rapmaster2000: For comparison's sake as of July 1, 2011 the population estimate for Boston-Cambridge-Quincy was 4,591,112 and for Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta was 5,359,205, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. The July 2011 estimate for Greece, via the CIA, was 10,767,827.

I'm surprised that these cities are only twice as productive per capita than Greece. Seriously, I thought it would be triple for a few reasons.

1. Greece doesn't export many high margin products (outside of ships but they're competing with Korea, China, and Japan).
2. Greece has a poor infrastructure partly as a consequence of its difficult terrain.
3. Greece has a higher proportion of old people than Atlanta or Boston.

For a better comparison look at Tampa metro vs. Greece.

Tampa-St. Pete Metro - GDP 115.2, population, 4,228,855
Greece - GDP 299.1, population 10,767,827.

Therefore, 2.72 GDP per capita for Tampa vs. 2.57 GDP per capita for Greece.

So Tampa is almost as unproductive as Greece. This is why you don't cherry-pick data.

Isn't Tampa full of old retirees? And one's a country and the other isn't. So I can see how Greece is in a wee bit of trouble.


Pretty much that. Tampa is pretty much a synonym for "pensioner," so cherry picking Tampa as a comparison is pretty poor.
 
2012-07-24 05:23:36 PM  

Shazam999: Rapmaster2000: For comparison's sake as of July 1, 2011 the population estimate for Boston-Cambridge-Quincy was 4,591,112 and for Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Marietta was 5,359,205, according to the U.S. Census Bureau. The July 2011 estimate for Greece, via the CIA, was 10,767,827.

I'm surprised that these cities are only twice as productive per capita than Greece. Seriously, I thought it would be triple for a few reasons.

1. Greece doesn't export many high margin products (outside of ships but they're competing with Korea, China, and Japan).
2. Greece has a poor infrastructure partly as a consequence of its difficult terrain.
3. Greece has a higher proportion of old people than Atlanta or Boston.

For a better comparison look at Tampa metro vs. Greece.

Tampa-St. Pete Metro - GDP 115.2, population, 4,228,855
Greece - GDP 299.1, population 10,767,827.

Therefore, 2.72 GDP per capita for Tampa vs. 2.57 GDP per capita for Greece.

So Tampa is almost as unproductive as Greece. This is why you don't cherry-pick data.

Isn't Tampa full of old retirees? And one's a country and the other isn't. So I can see how Greece is in a wee bit of trouble.


That's exactly what I meant, but to say that it's something about cultural gumption or whatever is lazy. There's a bigger story here about an aging society and what that means for productivity. Pointing and laughing at Greece is fun for some, but you might as well say the same about Tampa.

At least Tampa pays their taxes.
 
2012-07-24 05:46:09 PM  
urger:

I bet a co-worker a beer after work that someone would bite. Thanks for the free beer!


NP, make it a Sam.

Not that swill Yuengling that seems to pride itself at being just a tad better than a Budweiser in taste.
 
2012-07-24 06:27:28 PM  
You mean Taxachusetts.
 
2012-07-24 08:29:41 PM  
Boston isn't the most corrupt government in the Northeast, but only because New York and New Jersey are nearby. Uh. . . thanks?

It's kind of like the least psychotic in-law at your family reunion.
 
2012-07-24 09:42:20 PM  
dragonchild: Boston isn't the most corrupt government in the Northeast, but only because New York and New Jersey are nearby. Uh. . . thanks?

It's kind of like the least psychotic in-law at your family reunion.


You forgot Rhode Island too...
 
2012-07-24 09:56:49 PM  

TyrantII: You forgot Rhode Island too...


Myths.
 
2012-07-25 08:06:17 AM  

urger: As a New Yorker, I approve of this story being tagged "New York metropolitan area". That's right Boston, you're just a really far flung suburb of ours now. Second rate - just like your sports teams.


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The part about the NY metro area is separate from the part of the Boston Metro area. The author was making another point, but keep rolling with that 4th grade reading comprehension. You'll get there one day.Here is a link to the WSJ table referenced in the article.
 
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