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2012-07-24 10:51:16 AM  
With numbers like those, I see your "Death" and raise you "Genocide".
 
2012-07-24 10:51:33 AM  
You know, I'm so old I remember the NRA before Wayne LaPierre turned it into a hard-right political action group. Back in my day, it was a simple sportsmen's association.
 
2012-07-24 10:51:48 AM  
The NRA is the Grim Reaper's drug dealer?
 
2012-07-24 10:52:16 AM  
Turn the volume down from 11 guys. The guy was a nutbag. This is about as stupid as blaming the victims because they didn't have a shoot out in a dark crowded theater filled with tear gas.
 
2012-07-24 10:52:31 AM  
They support law-abiding gun owners, right up until the point they stop abiding laws.
 
2012-07-24 10:52:44 AM  
This is the result of working from a "no restrictions ever, under any circumstances" position and then bargaining from there.
 
2012-07-24 10:53:19 AM  

Cletus C.: They support law-abiding gun owners, right up until the point they stop abiding laws.


I support Scottsmen, right up until they stop being Scottsmen.
 
2012-07-24 10:54:06 AM  

Fart_Machine: Turn the volume down from 11 guys. The guy was a nutbag. This is about as stupid as blaming the victims because they didn't have a shoot out in a dark crowded theater filled with tear gas.


And you have no problem with a society turning its head as it allows this nutbag to start a small war in Aurora if he wanted to?

6000 rounds of ammo. The Nazis (yes, Poe in under 10!) tried to conserve bullets, but not in America!
 
2012-07-24 10:54:32 AM  
Hunter S. Thompson, known gun freak who owned several weapons, wrote a lot of hilarious letters to the NRA.
 
2012-07-24 10:54:36 AM  

Fart_Machine: Turn the volume down from 11 guys. The guy was a nutbag. This is about as stupid as blaming the victims because they didn't have a shoot out in a dark crowded theater filled with tear gas.


Both sides are bad so vote NRA.
 
2012-07-24 10:54:39 AM  
The NRA is right, everyone should have access to guns. But bullets should cost a million dollars each.

/Rock 2012
 
2012-07-24 10:55:48 AM  

Cletus C.: They support law-abiding gun owners, right up until the point they stop abiding laws.


At that point, wouldn't you say it's too late. Enabling is another form of support.

Just like according to Farq, it's apparently worse to call someone out for trolling than the act itself. That's enabling.... and I am so, so, so, so cool with that, yo.
 
2012-07-24 10:56:07 AM  

Fart_Machine: Turn the volume down from 11 guys. The guy was a nutbag. This is about as stupid as blaming the victims because they didn't have a shoot out in a dark crowded theater filled with tear gas.


Nutbags are apparently unable to kill without guns. This will be just another war where rights of American citizens will be whittled away... War on Drugs, War on Poverty, War on Terror....War on Gun Ownership....
 
2012-07-24 10:56:12 AM  
Yep.

The blood of shooting victims is on the NRA's hands as well as anyone who's ever donated money to them or voted for their candidates.
 
2012-07-24 10:57:20 AM  
3.bp.blogspot.com

/says it all
 
2012-07-24 10:58:08 AM  
Wasn't the Aurora shooter taking anti-psychotic meds? I remember reading something about him being on them, then taking himself off them prior to the shooting? Am I confusing this with another story?
 
2012-07-24 10:58:08 AM  
Yeah, this isn't complete over-the-top hyperbole or anything.

I swear, the gun-grabbers are having a farking temper-tantrum now that they realize people actually value and wish to protect their rights. As a country, we're sick and tired of listening to the totalitarian bullshiat being spewed forth from idiots like Feinstein, Schumer, Bloomberg, et al.
 
2012-07-24 10:58:13 AM  

slayer199: Fart_Machine: Turn the volume down from 11 guys. The guy was a nutbag. This is about as stupid as blaming the victims because they didn't have a shoot out in a dark crowded theater filled with tear gas.

Nutbags are apparently unable to kill without guns. This will be just another war where rights of American citizens will be whittled away... War on Drugs, War on Poverty, War on Terror....War on Gun Ownership....


I'm not disagreeing with the others, but what rights have been "whittled away" in the war on poverty?
 
2012-07-24 10:58:42 AM  

coeyagi: Fart_Machine: Turn the volume down from 11 guys. The guy was a nutbag. This is about as stupid as blaming the victims because they didn't have a shoot out in a dark crowded theater filled with tear gas.

And you have no problem with a society turning its head as it allows this nutbag to start a small war in Aurora if he wanted to?

6000 rounds of ammo. The Nazis (yes, Poe in under 10!) tried to conserve bullets, but not in America!


As much as I have disagreements with the NRA this is a case where neither more or less gun laws wouldn't have made a difference since this guy had no criminal record.
 
2012-07-24 10:58:49 AM  
OMG how mean! You're not allowed to talk about the gun lobby when a legal gun owner goes on another killing spree, people have feelings, you know?
 
2012-07-24 10:59:14 AM  
Bill Moyers is actually the Tall Man

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And he is pissed.
 
2012-07-24 10:59:17 AM  
Lot of obvious going on in this tab.


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2012-07-24 10:59:22 AM  
If only we had strict gun laws like Norway.
 
2012-07-24 10:59:23 AM  
The NRA is totally weak, I want my right to bear arms without condition. Everybody is saying stopping the shooter with a gun would have been near impossible well that's why we need to carry grenades and flamethrowers. My rights are being taken away and the NRA does nothing.
 
2012-07-24 10:59:24 AM  
Gun control is the theory that a dozen dead movie goers in a Colorado theater is morally and politically preferable to a live patron explaining to the police how James Holmes got shot.
 
2012-07-24 10:59:29 AM  
They are simply the mouthpeice of the military industrial complex, which has taken over the U.S. government by profiteering off of 1/2 of our taxes and dominates our foreign policy to ensure we are directly or indirectly involved in the constant conflicts across the globe.

They do this all while fooling "conservatives" that their 2nd amendment rights are in jepardy.
 
2012-07-24 10:59:30 AM  

coeyagi: Cletus C.: They support law-abiding gun owners, right up until the point they stop abiding laws.

At that point, wouldn't you say it's too late. Enabling is another form of support.

Just like according to Farq, it's apparently worse to call someone out for trolling than the act itself. That's enabling.... and I am so, so, so, so cool with that, yo.


What I'm saying, actually, is the NRA will fight to get guns into people's hands, then deny responsibility when some of those people start blasting away at humans.
 
2012-07-24 11:00:02 AM  

The 4chan Psychiatrist: As a country, we're sick and tired of listening to the totalitarian bullshiat being spewed forth from idiots like Feinstein, Schumer, Bloomberg, et al.


We're sicker over gun massacres every few months.
 
2012-07-24 11:00:22 AM  
Foreclosures, job destruction and starvation are the close friends of death.
Job destruction was in Death's wedding.
 
2012-07-24 11:00:38 AM  

Lost Thought 00: This is the result of working from a "no restrictions ever, under any circumstances" position and then bargaining from there.


It's very simple. The NRA spent decades fighting for the right for untracked, unlicensed, untraceable and unrestricted guns to go into the hands of whoever wanted them.

Now, the line is "you can't restrict our guns, look at how many untracked, unlicensed, untraceable and unrestricted guns are in the hands of minorities God-knows-who!?".

Congrats America, you're dumb enough to follow the words of a group claiming to deal with a problem they themselves created.
 
2012-07-24 11:00:58 AM  

The 4chan Psychiatrist: I swear, the gun-grabbers are having a farking temper-tantrum now that they realize people actually value and wish to protect their rights. As a country, we're sick and tired of listening to the totalitarian bullshiat being spewed forth from idiots like Feinstein, Schumer, Bloomberg, et al.


It's amazing you have the bravery to speak so freely. Don't worry, you can take shelter for a while in my hidden panic room if you need help escaping the thought police, who are surely looking to put you in one of their gulags.
 
2012-07-24 11:01:09 AM  

Cletus C.: coeyagi: Cletus C.: They support law-abiding gun owners, right up until the point they stop abiding laws.

At that point, wouldn't you say it's too late. Enabling is another form of support.

Just like according to Farq, it's apparently worse to call someone out for trolling than the act itself. That's enabling.... and I am so, so, so, so cool with that, yo.

What I'm saying, actually, is the NRA will fight to get guns into people's hands, then deny responsibility when some of those people start blasting away at humans.


Yes, beyond all logic, I was indeed defending your statement and expanding it.
 
2012-07-24 11:01:11 AM  

Primum: Yep.

The blood of shooting victims is on the NRA's hands as well as anyone who's ever donated money to them or voted for their candidates.


Back under your bridge you foul beast!
 
2012-07-24 11:01:38 AM  

EyeballKid: Fart_Machine: Turn the volume down from 11 guys. The guy was a nutbag. This is about as stupid as blaming the victims because they didn't have a shoot out in a dark crowded theater filled with tear gas.

Both sides are bad so vote NRA.


Nope didn't say that either. Just trying to be consistent.
 
2012-07-24 11:01:46 AM  
Yeah, and the Huffington Post is the Enabler of Derp.
 
2012-07-24 11:03:20 AM  

Forced Perspective: Gun control is the theory that a dozen dead movie goers in a Colorado theater is morally and politically preferable to a live patron explaining to the police how James Holmes got shot.


This is the other side to the stupidity I was referring to.

You're not helping.
 
2012-07-24 11:04:04 AM  

bigbadideasinaction: Congrats America, you're dumb enough to follow the words of a group claiming to deal with a problem they themselves created.


First, loose a rabid lion in the streets.
 
2012-07-24 11:04:42 AM  

Fart_Machine: coeyagi: Fart_Machine: Turn the volume down from 11 guys. The guy was a nutbag. This is about as stupid as blaming the victims because they didn't have a shoot out in a dark crowded theater filled with tear gas.

And you have no problem with a society turning its head as it allows this nutbag to start a small war in Aurora if he wanted to?

6000 rounds of ammo. The Nazis (yes, Poe in under 10!) tried to conserve bullets, but not in America!

As much as I have disagreements with the NRA this is a case where neither more or less gun laws wouldn't have made a difference since this guy had no criminal record.


Yes, which is why maybe buying 6000 rounds of ammo itself should have raised questions.

I mean, if the Right Wingers think everyone should have voter IDs even though voter fraud is WAY less than 30,000 cases per year, why not have a little control over firearms which are used in 30,000 deaths per year?

Hey conservatives, just want to make sure I have your priorities right:

Sanctity of Fetus life > Sanctity of voting > Sanctity of human life
 
2012-07-24 11:04:50 AM  
Thats right!!

Blame someone else for a persons crime!

Makes sense.
 
2012-07-24 11:05:04 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: The 4chan Psychiatrist: As a country, we're sick and tired of listening to the totalitarian bullshiat being spewed forth from idiots like Feinstein, Schumer, Bloomberg, et al.

We're sicker over gun massacres every few months.


In all fairness, untreated mental illness as a result from inadequate healthcare coverage and a society that still stigmatizes such illness is far more to blame that guns.
 
2012-07-24 11:06:07 AM  

slayer199: Fart_Machine: Turn the volume down from 11 guys. The guy was a nutbag. This is about as stupid as blaming the victims because they didn't have a shoot out in a dark crowded theater filled with tear gas.

Nutbags are apparently unable to kill without guns. This will be just another war where rights of American citizens will be whittled away... War on Drugs, War on Poverty, War on Terror....War on Gun Ownership....


Nobody is saying this. Nobody. It's rather hard to kill dozens of people at a time with a knife, ax, baseball bat, etc, and guns are easier than building a bomb or getting chemical weapons or whatever. I'm not anti-gun ownership, but to pretend that easy availability of guns don't make it easier for nutjobs to do shiat like this is stupid.
 
2012-07-24 11:08:19 AM  

Fart_Machine: The guy was a nutbag.


The guy was a nutbag with guns. Plural.

I don't mind if non-nutbags have guns, but it just keeps happening that nutbags get their hands on guns and shoot up a bunch of innocent people. When are we as a society going to start taking the responsibilities of gun ownership seriously?
 
2012-07-24 11:09:04 AM  
Oh boy another NRA thread today!

Let me take a stab at this:

Farker1: Guns are bad m'kay?

Farker2: Most gun are used safely, ya'll.

F1: These massacres couldn't have happened without guns m'kay.

F2: People will find a way to kill without guns y'all. Plus the massacre could have been prevented if others had guns too y'all.

F1: *Snarky comment about plausibility hypothetical situation* m'kay.

F2: *Snarky retort with complaint about absurd ineffective gun laws* y'all.

F1: *Derp and childish name calling* m'kay.

F2: *Derp and childish name calling* y'all

F3: Look! I found a way to feel superior to both!

/Thats the important part
 
2012-07-24 11:09:11 AM  
www.bartcop.com
 
2012-07-24 11:09:19 AM  
Dammit Moyers....AR15! not a flipping AK47. Please learn about what you are addressing before opening your mouth.
 
2012-07-24 11:09:20 AM  

Forced Perspective: Gun control is the theory that a dozen dead movie goers in a Colorado theater is morally and politically preferable to a live patron explaining to the police how James Holmes got shot.


Ah, heroic fantasy, the first love of the idiot.
 
2012-07-24 11:09:34 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: The 4chan Psychiatrist: As a country, we're sick and tired of listening to the totalitarian bullshiat being spewed forth from idiots like Feinstein, Schumer, Bloomberg, et al.

We're sicker over gun massacres every few months.


bigbadideasinaction: Lost Thought 00: This is the result of working from a "no restrictions ever, under any circumstances" position and then bargaining from there.

It's very simple. The NRA spent decades fighting for the right for untracked, unlicensed, untraceable and unrestricted guns to go into the hands of whoever wanted them.

Now, the line is "you can't restrict our guns, look at how many untracked, unlicensed, untraceable and unrestricted guns are in the hands of minorities God-knows-who!?".

Congrats America, you're dumb enough to follow the words of a group claiming to deal with a problem they themselves created.


All you guys fully support the TSA, and the Patriot Act, right?

I mean, gutting the Fourth Amendment is a small price to pay for the perceived safety that it would provide. After all, the blood of every dead American in 9/11 is smeared all over the hands of every single member of the ACLU.
 
2012-07-24 11:10:05 AM  
No, no no, stop it right now. It's too soon.

We are not supposed to have this discussion right now. It's insensitive to the victims, or something. So just stop.

We can have this discussion later. How about immediately before the next unexpected mass slaughter? That will be acceptable.

OK, Mods, please shut down this thread.
 
2012-07-24 11:10:07 AM  

qorkfiend: slayer199: Fart_Machine: Turn the volume down from 11 guys. The guy was a nutbag. This is about as stupid as blaming the victims because they didn't have a shoot out in a dark crowded theater filled with tear gas.

Nutbags are apparently unable to kill without guns. This will be just another war where rights of American citizens will be whittled away... War on Drugs, War on Poverty, War on Terror....War on Gun Ownership....

I'm not disagreeing with the others, but what rights have been "whittled away" in the war on poverty?


4th ammendmant, if you were poor and living in government housing you basically waved your rights by living there. The police did not need a warrant to enter the governments building.

/graduate of the Alabama projects in Paterson NJ.
 
2012-07-24 11:10:18 AM  

El Freak: Nobody is saying this. Nobody. It's rather hard to kill dozens of people at a time with a knife, ax, baseball bat, etc, and guns are easier than building a bomb or getting chemical weapons or whatever. I'm not anti-gun ownership, but to pretend that easy availability of guns don't make it easier for nutjobs to do shiat like this is stupid.


It's pretty easy to kill a dozen people with a car...not to mention all the pollution. It's time for at least a 15 day waiting period. We should also outlaw the Prius. They're silent and can sneak up on you.
 
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