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2012-07-24 10:52:12 AM  
Good luck finding any tight ends!

/Classy AND timely
 
2012-07-24 10:54:14 AM  
I guess if you're gonna leave one corrupt campus, might as well head to another one.
 
2012-07-24 10:54:23 AM  

born_yesterday: Good luck finding any tight ends!

/Classy AND timely


You're more likely to find some wide receivers to be honest.
 
2012-07-24 10:55:15 AM  
Once a few of the upperclassmen like Redd leave, you'll see more of an exodus. Some players are just sitting tight to see if they will have enough talent to tough out the next few years.

As for Kiffen being the first to make a call...why am I not surprised.
 
2012-07-24 10:57:26 AM  

born_yesterday: Good luck finding any tight ends!

/Classy AND timely


Who needs tight ends when you have a stable of young receivers.
 
2012-07-24 11:00:30 AM  
anyone that stays is a fool and might as well forget their future (if they have any talent)

BTW..
There's now a sandwich named after Jerry Sandusky, it's got 60 year old meat stuffed between buns barely out of the oven.


I love that one:)
 
2012-07-24 11:06:26 AM  

FinFangFark: Once a few of the upperclassmen like Redd leave, you'll see more of an exodus. Some players are just sitting tight to see if they will have enough talent to tough out the next few years.


heh

/I can't be mature -all- the time
 
2012-07-24 11:10:56 AM  
Only one man can fix this mess

0.tqn.com

We are.....


Hey, both schools even use the same tag line!
 
2012-07-24 11:14:19 AM  
lolkiffin
 
2012-07-24 11:19:42 AM  
UGA is under their scholarship allotment and in need of a running back
 
2012-07-24 11:23:40 AM  
Where is Kiffen finding a scholarship. Even down scholarships, he has one left? What a brilliant team leader.
 
2012-07-24 11:23:58 AM  

FinFangFark: Once a few of the upperclassmen like Redd leave, you'll see more of an exodus. Some players are just sitting tight to see if they will have enough talent to tough out the next few years.

As for Kiffen being the first to make a call...why am I not surprised.


If your coach didn't make some calls yesterday, he's not doing his job.
 
2012-07-24 11:25:38 AM  

FinFangFark: As for Kiffen being the first to make a call...why am I not surprised.


I saw somewhere that at least 10 different programs called the high school coach for one of PSU's offensive linemen yesterday. Kiffen was hardly alone in this - don't be stupid.
 
2012-07-24 11:27:10 AM  
FTFA: Redd has met with Penn State coach Bill O'Brien, who sources say has stressed to players that they can still play games and still appear on television.

Still shaking my head that Penn State avoided a TV ban...
 
2012-07-24 11:30:22 AM  

bulldg4life: UGA is under their scholarship allotment and in need of a running back


doesn't even matter, the ncaa is going to let school accept a transfer and go over 85 scholarships, if the team will out that many fewer on 2013 signing day. so one running back now = equals a max of 24 signees next spring.

/tennessee should see if there are any linemen not wanting to be tainted by the sandusky stink.
 
2012-07-24 11:30:54 AM  

srhp29: Where is Kiffen finding a scholarship. Even down scholarships, he has one left? What a brilliant team leader.


Players transferring out of State Pen University, the schools they transfer to, are given an extra scholarship spot, to fill the spot being taken by the player coming from State Pen University.
 
2012-07-24 11:33:37 AM  

PowerSlacker: Still shaking my head that Penn State avoided a TV ban...


Agreed. Players need strong encouragement to leave that place, and frankly I'm not sure the loss of bowl games is going to be enough. We're dealing with zealots here.
 
2012-07-24 11:33:48 AM  
The problem with Penn State players is that all the really good high school kids in PA all play elsewhere because the coaching staff made them go to class and refused to play by SEC/OSU rules. So while you may get a few transfers out, many of them actually want to play at Penn State.
 
2012-07-24 11:35:21 AM  

PowerSlacker: Still shaking my head that Penn State avoided a TV ban


They'll never do a TV ban again. You really think Penn State's Big Ten opponents would stand for not being able to watch their own team on TV for one of their games for something Penn State did?
 
2012-07-24 11:36:29 AM  

professorkowalski: I guess if you're gonna leave one corrupt campus, might as well head to another one.


Funny that. I think I heard UNC picked up one of their recruits.
 
2012-07-24 11:39:48 AM  

A Fark Handle: bulldg4life: UGA is under their scholarship allotment and in need of a running back

doesn't even matter, the ncaa is going to let schools accept a psu transfer and go over 85 scholarships, but the team will give out that many fewer on 2013 signing day. so one psu running back now = equals a max of 24 signees next spring.

/tennessee should see if there are any linemen not wanting to be tainted by the sandusky stink.


ftfm. christ i need coffee, that was barely english...
 
2012-07-24 11:44:00 AM  

GQueue: PowerSlacker: Still shaking my head that Penn State avoided a TV ban

They'll never do a TV ban again. You really think Penn State's Big Ten opponents would stand for not being able to watch their own team on TV for one of their games for something Penn State did?


Of course they won't do it. It would be a national outrage for Michigan and Ohio State fans to only get to see 11 of their 12 games on TV.
 
2012-07-24 11:52:14 AM  

professorkowalski: I guess if you're gonna leave one corrupt campus, might as well head to another one.


so they are going to continue to play d1a college football?

/this just in, they are all dirty. it's just a matter of the degree of dirt.
 
2012-07-24 12:00:49 PM  

A Fark Handle: so they are going to continue to play d1a college football?


Most of the transfers will probably end up at other D-1 schools. Precedent for those kinds of transfers has been made before.

Just recently, with the whole UCONN basketball being banned from postseason play next year, players were told they could transfer and not have to sit out a year.
 
2012-07-24 12:02:41 PM  

professorkowalski: srhp29: Where is Kiffen finding a scholarship. Even down scholarships, he has one left? What a brilliant team leader.

Players transferring out of State Pen University, the schools they transfer to, are given an extra scholarship spot, to fill the spot being taken by the player coming from State Pen University.


Perhaps the NCAA nees a rule that says, if you are on scholarship probation, you don't get that add on scholarship. That is pretty dumb that they would get a bonus scholarship from cherry picking a player from a sinking shiip.
 
2012-07-24 12:04:41 PM  

A Fark Handle: professorkowalski: I guess if you're gonna leave one corrupt campus, might as well head to another one.

so they are going to continue to play d1a college football?

/this just in, they are all dirty. it's just a matter of the degree of dirt.


They are all dirty according to the ridiculous regulations the NCAA puts on them, sure. But let's be truthful, the NCAA itself is kind of filthy.
 
2012-07-24 12:09:47 PM  

GQueue: PowerSlacker: Still shaking my head that Penn State avoided a TV ban

They'll never do a TV ban again. You really think Penn State's Big Ten opponents would stand for not being able to watch their own team on TV for one of their games for something Penn State did?


An Omaha sportswriter today recommended that the Big Ten switch Nebraska's cross-over opponent to Wisconsin instead of Penn State. Really wish they would - despite last year's blowout, I think Wisc-Neb every year would be a much better game than watching Wisc blow out Minnesota every year. And after the sanctions, Penn State will be playing Minnesota-level football the next few years anyway.
 
2012-07-24 12:12:02 PM  

srhp29: A Fark Handle: professorkowalski: I guess if you're gonna leave one corrupt campus, might as well head to another one.

so they are going to continue to play d1a college football?

/this just in, they are all dirty. it's just a matter of the degree of dirt.

They are all dirty according to the ridiculous regulations the NCAA puts on them, sure. But let's be truthful, the NCAA itself is kind of filthy.


no, they are dirty according to the standards the university would hold themselves to if winning football games was so damn important. i love college football, but i have no illusions about the fact that all schools/coaches bend some school/academic rules and standards in pursuit of wins. the wins are just too damn valuable. it's not about the ncaa rules (most of which are stupid and unjust), it just a simple fact that when society values winning as much as we do, dirt will follow.
 
2012-07-24 12:14:55 PM  

velvet_fog: GQueue: PowerSlacker: Still shaking my head that Penn State avoided a TV ban

They'll never do a TV ban again. You really think Penn State's Big Ten opponents would stand for not being able to watch their own team on TV for one of their games for something Penn State did?

An Omaha sportswriter today recommended that the Big Ten switch Nebraska's cross-over opponent to Wisconsin instead of Penn State. Really wish they would - despite last year's blowout, I think Wisc-Neb every year would be a much better game than watching Wisc blow out Minnesota every year. And after the sanctions, Penn State will be playing Minnesota-level football the next few years anyway.


So I take it people in Omaha aren't aware of the rivalry between Wisconsin and Minnesota? Or are they just happy to continue crapping on rivalries like they did with the once great Nebraska-Oklahoma rivalry?
 
2012-07-24 12:16:36 PM  
Paul Bunyan's Axe!!!
 
2012-07-24 12:17:15 PM  

srhp29: Perhaps the NCAA nees a rule that says, if you are on scholarship probation, you don't get that add on scholarship. That is pretty dumb that they would get a bonus scholarship from cherry picking a player from a sinking shiip.


They told schools the scholarships won't count against them this year, because it's close to the start of practice. Yes, it's a little unseemly for a school already on probation to get some slack, but it's for the benefit of the player transferring out to be able to go where can accomplish what he wants to do.
 
2012-07-24 12:21:22 PM  

UNC_Samurai: srhp29: Perhaps the NCAA nees a rule that says, if you are on scholarship probation, you don't get that add on scholarship. That is pretty dumb that they would get a bonus scholarship from cherry picking a player from a sinking shiip.

They told schools the scholarships won't count against them this year, because it's close to the start of practice. Yes, it's a little unseemly for a school already on probation to get some slack, but it's for the benefit of the player transferring out to be able to go where can accomplish what he wants to do.


Totally understand and there is obviously no rule against it. I figure that a good player can accomplish what he wants to at a relatively significant number of schools though, unless his goal is play for the University of Southern California, then I suppose there is only one option.
 
2012-07-24 12:23:17 PM  

PowerSlacker: So I take it people in Omaha aren't aware of the rivalry between Wisconsin and Minnesota? Or are they just happy to continue crapping on rivalries like they did with the once great Nebraska-Oklahoma rivalry?


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nebraska doesn't care about non-nebraska people.
 
2012-07-24 12:24:24 PM  

PowerSlacker: FTFA: Redd has met with Penn State coach Bill O'Brien, who sources say has stressed to players that they can still play games and still appear on television.

Still shaking my head that Penn State avoided a TV ban...


There was probably a TV contract in place that couldn't be broken without a lot of legal tussle.
 
2012-07-24 12:25:04 PM  

A Fark Handle: no, they are dirty according to the standards the university would hold themselves to if winning football games was so damn important. i love college football, but i have no illusions about the fact that all schools/coaches bend some school/academic rules and standards in pursuit of wins. the wins are just too damn valuable. it's not about the ncaa rules (most of which are stupid and unjust), it just a simple fact that when society values winning as much as we do, dirt will follow.


This just in: pretty much everyone that achieves at a high level does so by doing some morally questionable-at-best things.
 
2012-07-24 12:26:35 PM  
Does anyone think that the NFL might be skittish about recruiting players from Penn State? I know it's a stupid question, but the NFL isn't known for making wise decisions. And could the thought of that cause a mass exodus of players who are hoping to make it to the NFL?
 
2012-07-24 12:29:41 PM  

srtpointman: Does anyone think that the NFL might be skittish about recruiting players from Penn State? I know it's a stupid question, but the NFL isn't known for making wise decisions. And could the thought of that cause a mass exodus of players who are hoping to make it to the NFL?


No.
 
2012-07-24 12:29:54 PM  
Wait, you are expecting an ounce of dignity or scruples from Lane Kiffin and Ed Orgeron? When Orgeron was at Ole Miss, he had staffers reaching out to Tulane's staff about any transfer possibilities when the team was in exile at Rice University within a couple of weeks after Hurricane Katrina. He and Kiffin tried to steal some UT players on the way out of that dumpster fire they started. He's probably one of the biggest opportunistic pieces of shiat in college football.
 
2012-07-24 12:36:15 PM  

srtpointman: Does anyone think that the NFL might be skittish about recruiting players from Penn State?


No.
 
2012-07-24 12:40:17 PM  

Nabb1: Wait, you are expecting an ounce of dignity or scruples from Lane Kiffin and Ed Orgeron? When Orgeron was at Ole Miss, he had staffers reaching out to Tulane's staff about any transfer possibilities when the team was in exile at Rice University within a couple of weeks after Hurricane Katrina. He and Kiffin tried to steal some UT players on the way out of that dumpster fire they started. He's probably one of the biggest opportunistic pieces of shiat in college football.


I'm no USC fan. With that disclaimer out of the way, coaches who aren't contacting Penn State players now aren't doing their jobs.
 
2012-07-24 12:44:23 PM  

PowerSlacker: Nabb1: Wait, you are expecting an ounce of dignity or scruples from Lane Kiffin and Ed Orgeron? When Orgeron was at Ole Miss, he had staffers reaching out to Tulane's staff about any transfer possibilities when the team was in exile at Rice University within a couple of weeks after Hurricane Katrina. He and Kiffin tried to steal some UT players on the way out of that dumpster fire they started. He's probably one of the biggest opportunistic pieces of shiat in college football.

I'm no USC fan. With that disclaimer out of the way, coaches who aren't contacting Penn State players now aren't doing their jobs.


Exactly. On one hand, people are biatching about the sanctions unfairly hurting the students. On the other, people are biatching about other coaches moving immediately to contact players and give them a better environment ASAP. Should they wait six months into the school year?
 
2012-07-24 12:45:38 PM  
Instead of taking away TV rights they could have prevented Penn State from having any home conference games this year.
 
2012-07-24 12:48:44 PM  

Nabb1: He's probably one of the biggest opportunistic pieces of shiat in college football.


Now that Bobby Petrino is out of the game, Kiffin might even be in the top spot.
 
2012-07-24 12:48:56 PM  

GQueue: PowerSlacker: Still shaking my head that Penn State avoided a TV ban

They'll never do a TV ban again. You really think Penn State's Big Ten opponents would stand for not being able to watch their own team on TV for one of their games for something Penn State did?


And that's just it about a TV ban: it punishes people who not only weren't involved, but weren't even part of the institution that was. The death penalty would be a much cleaner instrument of punishment, and more precise: other teams can be rescheduled to play elsewhere, resulting in no loss of TV time for them.

The NCAA's "punishment" is absolutely nothing that they claim it is. It's not narrowly focused, it doesn't allow the school to reorganize around things other than football, and it's not appropriate to the violations that took place. The death penalty would be far fairer and more just.
 
2012-07-24 12:55:41 PM  

Millennium: The death penalty would be far fairer and more just.


The major problem with the death penalty is that it would destroy the entire athletic department, the music school, and several other programs that really benefit the student body. Without football gameday revenues most of the universities other sports would have their funding cut, the band would probably be shut down, and while I am unsure about Penn State in particular most university athletic programs fund the intramural sports program. Basically it would really hurt the Penn State Students who are there for an education.
 
2012-07-24 12:56:16 PM  

LonghornRob: Instead of taking away TV rights they could have prevented Penn State from having any home conference games this year.


The problem with that solution is that it gives a competitive advantage to every team that suddenly gets an extra home conference game.
 
2012-07-24 12:57:05 PM  

Tom_Slick: The major problem with the death penalty is that it would destroy the entire athletic department, the music school, and several other programs that really benefit the student body.


[citation needed]
 
2012-07-24 12:59:50 PM  

PowerSlacker: FinFangFark: Once a few of the upperclassmen like Redd leave, you'll see more of an exodus. Some players are just sitting tight to see if they will have enough talent to tough out the next few years.

As for Kiffen being the first to make a call...why am I not surprised.

If your coach didn't make some calls yesterday, he's not doing his job.


That. Sark better be on the damn phone right now.
 
2012-07-24 01:00:59 PM  

PowerSlacker: velvet_fog: GQueue: PowerSlacker: Still shaking my head that Penn State avoided a TV ban

They'll never do a TV ban again. You really think Penn State's Big Ten opponents would stand for not being able to watch their own team on TV for one of their games for something Penn State did?

An Omaha sportswriter today recommended that the Big Ten switch Nebraska's cross-over opponent to Wisconsin instead of Penn State. Really wish they would - despite last year's blowout, I think Wisc-Neb every year would be a much better game than watching Wisc blow out Minnesota every year. And after the sanctions, Penn State will be playing Minnesota-level football the next few years anyway.

So I take it people in Omaha aren't aware of the rivalry between Wisconsin and Minnesota? Or are they just happy to continue crapping on rivalries like they did with the once great Nebraska-Oklahoma rivalry?


Nebraska didn't make the call to cancel that when the Big 12 was formed, the conference did
 
2012-07-24 01:01:17 PM  

PowerSlacker: Tom_Slick: The major problem with the death penalty is that it would destroy the entire athletic department, the music school, and several other programs that really benefit the student body.

[citation needed]


especially for a school with a 1.8 billion dollar endowment...so why could penn state not afford a few million?
 
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