Now that the man who recorded "Cop Killer" has said this, I expect conservatives to come out in favor of gun control. Perhaps restricting their sale to minorities. "Original intent" and all that.

T, somewhere between every 4th or 5th L&O: SVU episode you appear in ("There was a rape in the ghetto! Munch, you and Finn take care of this one!") and being a reality show also-ran, you kinda lost relevancy, dawg.

Slavery, guns and Jesus... what could go wrong?

I am disappointed by the multiple errors I found on sites claiming to have the lyrics to Colors.

rufus-t-firefly

Now that the man who recorded "Cop Killer" has said this, I expect conservatives to come out in favor of gun control. Perhaps restricting their sale to minorities. "Original intent" and all that.

Ohh aren't you just adorable

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Try to ban the AK? He got ten of 'em stashed with a case of hand grenades.

Guns were the #2 thing on the founding fathers' minds when they drafted the Constitution. He's got a point.

rufus-t-firefly: Now that the man who recorded "Cop Killer" has said this, I expect conservatives to come out in favor of gun control. Perhaps restricting their sale to minorities. "Original intent" and all that.

No, no, no. It has to be Obama who said it. Ice-T cooties aren't enough to make Republicans vote against what they used to favor...it has to be pure Obama cooties.

No to threadjack to much, Ice T's "Freedom of Speech....but Watch What You Say" is one of only 3 "rap" albums I own. The whole thing is incredible...real musicians....and an intro mixing Black Sabbath's "Black Sabbath" with a speech from Jello Biafra. farking brilliant. Also "Girl Tried to KIll Me" is a fun song with awesome guitar work from Ernie C.

Like it or not, guns are part of our culture at this point. Taking them away by law will be even less effective than trying to take drugs away, is that's possible.
Doesn't matter if gun control is a "good" or "bad" idea - it just won't work.
The pro/anti gun debate is an endless circle-jerk that leads nowhere. The bottom line is that prohibition of some object or substance that any appreciable number of people want is futile. And I don't think we have a lot of time and money to spend on futility these days.

Real men don't need guns.

So, according to anti-gun people, the only people with guns should be those paid by the state to make us do stuff?

That's a lot of power to have over a population. That won't do. The anti-gun people need to rethink their position.

If we banned guns, TV would really suck.

I'm pretty sure he was referring to this.

"right to keep and bear arms (often referred as the right to bear arms or to have arms) is the enumerated right that people have a personal right to firearms for individual use, and a collective right to bear arms in a militia."

Was that wrong of him?

/not a conservative

Eapoe6: So, according to anti-gun people, the only people with guns should be those paid by the state to make us do stuff?

That's a lot of power to have over a population. That won't do. The anti-gun people need to rethink their position.

Why even bother debating the wisdom of doing that which cannot be done?
I'm pretty sure our society has already gone further than it should have down "prohibition road", and, in fact, we need to turn back and head the other way. Guns, drugs, porn, gambling, etc. - none of it worked. To some extent, the law can sometimes deter people from evil deeds. It cannot deter people from merely obtaing and possessing stuff they want, or engaging in victimlessa ctivities they like in private.
Never has - never will.

jso2897: The bottom line is that prohibition of some object or substance that any appreciable number of people want is futile.


Unless it could possibly be used to treat people with terminal illness. Then, never!!!! It might lead to jazz and dancing with negroes.

EyeballKid: jso2897: The bottom line is that prohibition of some object or substance that any appreciable number of people want is futile.


Unless it could possibly be used to treat people with terminal illness. Then, never!!!! It might lead to jazz and dancing with negroes.

Marijuana supression has not been futile? Uh, how would you define the word "futile"?

Can I mix this with the Pat Sajak thread and get something like this? Couple more ingredients, maybe...

OnlyM3: rufus-t-firefly

Now that the man who recorded "Cop Killer" has said this, I expect conservatives to come out in favor of gun control. Perhaps restricting their sale to minorities. "Original intent" and all that.
Ohh aren't you just adorable [farm4.static.flickr.com image 500x410]

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You've been here since '06 and haven't seen rufus' work yet?

Flappyhead: You've been here since '06 and haven't seen rufus' work yet?

Trolls trollin' trolls, best that we just stay out of the way.

Yo, you telling me this dude gets off on little girls with pigtails?

Mandatory public executions for everyone who commits a crime with a gun.

/What'sa matter Merikuh, gone soft on crime?

jso2897: EyeballKid: jso2897: The bottom line is that prohibition of some object or substance that any appreciable number of people want is futile.


Unless it could possibly be used to treat people with terminal illness. Then, never!!!! It might lead to jazz and dancing with negroes.

Marijuana supression has not been futile? Uh, how would you define the word "futile"?

If I can't get it with the same availability of any legal substance that does far more damage, like, alcohol, let's say, it's being suppressed. And, even though you can get a ticket for possession here, it's still a ticket.

Dude played a kangaroo.

Well? Isn't it?

FTA "guns don't kill people, people do"

No. Guns don't kill people, rappers do.

Link

jso2897: Eapoe6: So, according to anti-gun people, the only people with guns should be those paid by the state to make us do stuff?

That's a lot of power to have over a population. That won't do. The anti-gun people need to rethink their position.

Why even bother debating the wisdom of doing that which cannot be done?
I'm pretty sure our society has already gone further than it should have down "prohibition road", and, in fact, we need to turn back and head the other way. Guns, drugs, porn, gambling, etc. - none of it worked. To some extent, the law can sometimes deter people from evil deeds. It cannot deter people from merely obtaing and possessing stuff they want, or engaging in victimlessa ctivities they like in private.
Never has - never will.

Centralized Control Freaks think they have the technology to do it this time. Fark that!

jso2897: To some extent, the law can sometimes deter people from evil deeds. It cannot deter people from merely obtaing and possessing stuff they want, or engaging in victimlessa ctivities they like in private.

Part of the problem is where you draw the "victimless" line. There's a spectrum between drinking on my couch and driving around in a truck while being fueled by enough vodak to kill an elephant. Just like there's a spectrum between owning a gun and running around with Uzis akimbo, taking pot shots at pigeons in a public park. People mainly argue about where you draw the line, for anyone but the most lunatic it isn't about the very extreme positions.

But I seriously doubt the aftermath of a shooting is a good environment for a civil discussion, whether it's about the practical or the idealistic side.

I am anti-gun. They are, after all, devices with one purpose alone.

That being said, guns exist. And even countries with gun control, these things still happen.

Perhaps the focus should be more on mental health programs and strong communities? If people have no reason to wig out and kill people, they probably won't.

I've schooled my homeboys
Made 'em all understand
The tricks nd twists
Inflicted on the Black man
How ya make me think
to be down
I gotta stay around
Down in the motherfarkin'
Battleground
There'll never be any good
Schools in the 'hood
There'll never be any cops
That are any good
The hospital is a great place
To go to die
Real estate's cheap
Let me tell ya why?
The man's got a
Sure fire system
A economic prison!

Who cares what Ice T has to say on this. He's only 3/5 human, and this country was based on that.

Eapoe6: So, according to anti-gun people, the only people with guns should be those paid by the state to make us do stuff?

No. No one is seriously proposing that. All people are saying is it sucks when lots of people get killed, and maybe there's some stuff we can all agree on that will reduce the chance of this happening again.

EyeballKid: jso2897: EyeballKid: jso2897: The bottom line is that prohibition of some object or substance that any appreciable number of people want is futile.


Unless it could possibly be used to treat people with terminal illness. Then, never!!!! It might lead to jazz and dancing with negroes.

Marijuana supression has not been futile? Uh, how would you define the word "futile"?

If I can't get it with the same availability of any legal substance that does far more damage, like, alcohol, let's say, it's being suppressed. And, even though you can get a ticket for possession here, it's still a ticket.

Drug dealers don't ask for ID.

EyeballKid: jso2897: EyeballKid: jso2897: The bottom line is that prohibition of some object or substance that any appreciable number of people want is futile.


Unless it could possibly be used to treat people with terminal illness. Then, never!!!! It might lead to jazz and dancing with negroes.

Marijuana supression has not been futile? Uh, how would you define the word "futile"?

If I can't get it with the same availability of any legal substance that does far more damage, like, alcohol, let's say, it's being suppressed. And, even though you can get a ticket for possession here, it's still a ticket.

And yet, anybody anywhere who wants cannabis can get it.
I did not mean to imply that prohibition effects nothing - it causes great suffering, hardship, economic costs and plain old inconvenience. But it does not remove the offending object or substance from society at all.
And that would fit my definition of "futile".

This settles it, he's my favorite person of color now. I mean, I loved him in Friday, and I can really get my groove on to "It Was A Good Day". I thought him talking about not having to use his AK was just artistic license, but this shows he really does believe in the 2nd Amendment.

Yes, but I think we can all agree no civilian needs an assault rifle or a Glock. Just like civilians don't need a Sherman tank to drive to work. And for everyone saying, "Yeah but they will find a way to get whatever weapon they want on the black market." That may be true, but that is much more difficult to do than walking into a Gun shop or ordering it online. Much more expensive too.

RockofAges: EyeballKid: jso2897: EyeballKid: jso2897: The bottom line is that prohibition of some object or substance that any appreciable number of people want is futile.


Unless it could possibly be used to treat people with terminal illness. Then, never!!!! It might lead to jazz and dancing with negroes.

Marijuana supression has not been futile? Uh, how would you define the word "futile"?

If I can't get it with the same availability of any legal substance that does far more damage, like, alcohol, let's say, it's being suppressed. And, even though you can get a ticket for possession here, it's still a ticket.

Drug dealers don't ask for ID.

When I was teenager, it was complicated to get booze - you had to find and adult who was sympathetic, or a wino (who might cheat you) to buy it for you. Not that this discouraged my contemporaries from drinking - I knew several kids that were full-blown alkies.
Drugs, on the other hand, were simple - you just went to the dealer and got them. Their illegality actually made them EASIER to obtain.

If he was white this wouldn't have been greenlighted. Shame on the racist subby and admins.

jso2897: And that would fit my definition of "futile".

By that definition, wouldn't most police work be futile? After all, there's still murder, theft, jaywalking...

/Not saying that drug prohibition, esp. as practised in the US is right, but still...
//Unless we're going by a somewhat philosophical, nihilist version of "futile"

Cymbal: Yes, but I think we can all agree no civilian needs an assault rifle or a Glock. Just like civilians don't need a Sherman tank to drive to work. And for everyone saying, "Yeah but they will find a way to get whatever weapon they want on the black market." That may be true, but that is much more difficult to do than walking into a Gun shop or ordering it online. Much more expensive too.

I don't have any NEED to express my political opinions, either. Nevertheless, I would prefer to retain the right to do so.