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2012-07-24 01:19:24 PM  
12 votes:
That was a lot of butthurt condensed into one article. From Wikipedia: "The UN and most countries do not recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital, taking the position that the final status of Jerusalem is pending future negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority"

You want a recognized capital? Negotiate, assholes.
2012-07-24 01:18:32 PM  
10 votes:

Delawheredad: The BBC has been penalized before for an anti-Israel bias. Some things never change.


BBC: "Tell you what, we'll list the capital where you say it is if you agree to stop listing the terrorists who bombed the King David hotel as national heroes."
2012-07-24 01:18:12 PM  
10 votes:
Would he have been happier if they listed Tel Aviv?

One of the few rules of nations is that you aren;t allowed to claim a city as a capital that doesn;t rightfully belong to you or half-belongs to someone else. This is why the capital of say, West Germany was moved from Berlin to Bonn during the cold war
2012-07-24 01:23:31 PM  
6 votes:
For a nation virtually incapable of standing on its own feet, Israel sure talks a lot of smack.
Heb
2012-07-24 01:24:38 PM  
5 votes:

Delawheredad: The BBC has been penalized before for an anti-Israel bias. Some things never change.


The BBC has also been criticised for its pro-Israel bias. Must be doing something right.

As for the article, what a hissy-fit. You want international recognition for a "capital" that is internationally recognised as being occupied territory? Good luck with that.
2012-07-24 02:10:47 PM  
4 votes:

Eshkar: On another note, United Jerusalem is the Capital of Israel, there really isn't anything anyone can do about it; write your strongly worded letters and write your angry blog post about it; it won't change anything. Israel is here to stay, get used to it; the 2000 years of deeply seated antisemitism based on religious intolerance (yes even in you agnostics and atheist, you have been contaminated by 2000+ years of Christian hate, you may not realize it but your biased against Israel is actually rooted in a social norm of deep seated accepted hate of the Jewish people) can no longer hold back the Hebrew People.


Interesting, so when I didn't like South Africa it was because of my Anti-Hebrew bias? Because creating fictionally independent areas and then treating the residents as foreign workers without rights was exactly what South Africa did... and was Israel is doing. Want to end this valid criticism of your apartheid policy? Stop stalling for time and allow for the creation of a sovereign Palestinian state with real territorial integrity. But that won't happen. Israel will continue to stall, continue to kneel out to clock, continue to expand illegal settlements and allow these fake-nation refugee camps without jobs or security and subject to illegal collective punishment at the hands of the IDF to be the future for Arabs under Israeli rule.
2012-07-24 02:04:15 PM  
4 votes:

Magorn: rgo Israel, under international law has no valid legal claim to Jerusalem, only a sentimental one. This is one of the reasons they've tried so very hard to ethnically cleanse East Jerusalem so they can claim the city is basically all Israeli anyway so why not "recognize the reality on the ground" -more or less the same argument they use everytime they steal more land for their "settlers"


Yeah, I mean I believe Israel has the right to exist as much as any other country but it's dickish things like this (ie: evicting Palestinians from their homes and then bulldozing their homes for yet another settlement) which make it really hard for me to defend them when they keep doing dickish things like that.

Is this a reasonable position to take?
2012-07-24 02:03:22 PM  
4 votes:

randomjsa: its never worked out for one reason and one reason only


Oversimplify much? Israel's idea of negotiation has been to say "No" and STFU to just about any proposal that doesn't give their spoiled asses everything they want.

My solution? Evacuate the damn "Holy Land" and turn into a toxic and nuclear waste dump. That or turn Jerusalem over to Disney for Invisible Friends Land.
2012-07-24 01:33:01 PM  
4 votes:

ph0rk: focused anti-semitism


Isn't Israel largely made up of non-semetic Jews anyway? They need to find a more appropriate descriptor, given that Israel is the one proactively oppressing a group of semites in their territories.
2012-07-24 01:29:38 PM  
4 votes:
I can easily see how the BBC could arrive at such a conclusion. In purely economic terms the American Congress in Washington funds Israel, so they can't really be sure whether the Israeli capital is Jerusalem or Washington DC. They are just being cautious here.
2012-07-24 01:28:19 PM  
4 votes:
Almost no one recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital.

Author is a dolt.
2012-07-24 03:51:54 PM  
3 votes:
Eshkar: Yes I get it, you have a black friend, a gay friend, and a Jew friend and they all support your racist bigotry. Dude earlier you justified the Inquisition and Hitler by justifying hatred of Jews... Guess what your a Bigot... look in the mirror and I wouldn't be surprised if there wasn't a neon sign flashing bigot over your head... Yes I am a Zionist, a proud Zionist... not a chicken nor a chicken shiat, but defiantly a Zionist.

Saying that annoying pieces of work like yourself were responsible for various societies attempting to rub out the Jews throughout history is just an observation. Widely different people do not just up and attack another group of people at various places and times throughout history without cause. I grew up around Jews and had no quarrel with them until they got involved with subverting US foreign policy by bribing the corrupt US Congress. Now I see Israel as being not an ally of the USA, but as a very real threat to the USA. This does not make me a bigot, it makes me a realist.
2012-07-24 02:12:16 PM  
3 votes:

hitlersbrain: Hmm;

Olympics - no one cares.

Israel - no one cares.

My conclusion; Get a life you whiny little puke.


My guess is that it's a continuation of the butthurt over the fact that the BBC is not a constant cheerleader for Israel compared to it's competitors in the US.
2012-07-24 02:01:46 PM  
3 votes:

grotto_man: Magorn

Would he have been happier if they listed Tel Aviv?

They did that already. In their eagerness to spread their anti-Israel agenda, they decided to completely ignore reality.

One of the few rules of nations is that you aren;t allowed to claim a city as a capital that doesn;t rightfully belong to you or half-belongs to someone else.

Luckily, that's not the case with Jerusalem. And it's funny how the Arab states didn't respect the sacrosanctity of borders when they invaded Israel at its creation, then whined about the results of that and later wars they started after the fact. Or that the pre-1967 "border" was just a cease-fire line in the first place.

And in fact the Knesset and the other Israeli government offices are within the pre-1967 Green Line anyway. But the Magorns and BBCs of the world know better than to let facts, logic, or fairness get in the way when there's Israel-bashing to do!

This is why the capital of say, West Germany was moved from Berlin to Bonn during the cold war

Complete and utter nonsense.

Berlin had been the capital of united Germany, not West Germany. The capital of West Germany was never Berlin. And they could have put their capital in West Berlin if they had chosen to. The reason they didn't was practicality and security. West Berlin was a tiny enclave completely surrounded by hostile territory and it was miles from the rest of West Germany. It had nothing to do with "legality".

Anyway, for those of you interested in correctives to the Bigoted Broadcasting Company's BS can take a gander at http://honestreporting.com/ , and to find just for the BBC there's http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=12 .


Since they didn't Build it, the only claim that Israel ever had to Jerusalem was by right of conquest in the regin of David. Any title claim that gave them on the city was susbequently extinguished by an equally valid "rigth of Conquest" claim from : The Babylonians, The Assyrians, The Macedonians, The Romans, the Arabs, The Crusaders, the Turks and the British. Now you could argue they re-acquired title in 1967 in the same way, but unfortunately for ISrael, the valdity of territorial aquistiton by conquest was more or less extinguished in international law after WWII and under the articles that created the UN (and since the UN is also the sole source of validity of the existence of an Israeli state at all...)

Ergo Israel, under international law has no valid legal claim to Jerusalem, only a sentimental one. This is one of the reasons they've tried so very hard to ethnically cleanse East Jerusalem so they can claim the city is basically all Israeli anyway so why not "recognize the reality on the ground" -more or less the same argument they use everytime they steal more land for their "settlers"
2012-07-24 01:20:31 PM  
3 votes:
t2.gstatic.com

I get it, the writer claims to be a comedian so presumably that was supposed to be funny somehow.
Heb
2012-07-25 10:42:12 AM  
2 votes:

Eshkar: Heb: Eshkar: Heb: You want an ethnically Jewish state? Blimey. Nice to see a good old fashioned racial bigot.

Ethnicity and race are two separate things. Arab states are Arab states, Italy is an Italian state... it is Italian in Ethnic roots. Greece is ethnically Greek, and Israeli's are Ethnically Jewish. There is no bigotry there... nice try being an ass but you fail; my point is to focus more on the ethnic Jewish (Hebrew) roots of our people... who formed the country and not on the religious side so people will quit thinking the nation of Israel was formed around a religion when it was really formed around the Ethnic group that is the Jewish People. Asshat

Dress it up how you like, you want a racial state and to be frank you sicken me.

I live in England. We have a far-right arsehole here who goes on about how Britain should be for the ethnically British. Frankly I think people like him and you are what's wrong with the world.

No I want a Jewish state where Jews can go and not face persecution like they have every where else for the past 2000 years. Your ignorance sickens me. Again being ethnically Jewish isn't a race, it is an ethnic group... two separate things. Israel is a Jewish state, does that mean I want only Jews there, no. But it was founded for Jews, a safe haven for the Jewish people. If you can't grasp that without yelling race then you are daft.


Yes, because the only way to avoid persecution is to create an ethnically segregated state where you can ensure you are the persecutors rather than the persecuted.

Well done you. If only homosexuals, gypsies and women had come up with ideas for their own countries too, the silly billies.

You're a bigot, plain and simple. Dress it up any way you like and it still comes out the same.
Heb
2012-07-25 09:36:17 AM  
2 votes:

Eshkar: Heb: You want an ethnically Jewish state? Blimey. Nice to see a good old fashioned racial bigot.

Ethnicity and race are two separate things. Arab states are Arab states, Italy is an Italian state... it is Italian in Ethnic roots. Greece is ethnically Greek, and Israeli's are Ethnically Jewish. There is no bigotry there... nice try being an ass but you fail; my point is to focus more on the ethnic Jewish (Hebrew) roots of our people... who formed the country and not on the religious side so people will quit thinking the nation of Israel was formed around a religion when it was really formed around the Ethnic group that is the Jewish People. Asshat


Dress it up how you like, you want a racial state and to be frank you sicken me.

I live in England. We have a far-right arsehole here who goes on about how Britain should be for the ethnically British. Frankly I think people like him and you are what's wrong with the world.
2012-07-24 04:11:26 PM  
2 votes:

Eshkar: XveryYpettyZ: Eshkar: Why don't you create them a state in Montana or some where like that... considering the Palestinian "refuge" population in the US... that is essentially what you are asking Israel to do. What we call Jordan is actually Palestine. If you want to biatch at someone about the plight of the Palestinians biatch at the Jordanians who oppress 70% of their population (Palestinians) because they know they stole their country. Heck Jordan is refusing entry to Palestinians fleeing Syria while allowing everyone else safe haven in Jordan. Palestine = Jordan :: Palestine ≠ Israel

1948 boundaries. That is all.

To be honest I don't give a flying fark what the UN has to say, nor the international community, they can all suck my big toe. Lets play a numbers game As of 2010 Israel's Palestinian population was ~20%... Jordan's Palestinian population is ~70%... so Palestinians are the majority in Jordan... so that makes Jordan a Palestinian Country, so Palestinians should rule Jordan (but they are violently oppressed, far worse than anything Israel has ever done). So solution to problem is for Jordan to become the Palestinian homeland (like the original UN plan... which I don't even care about), Palestinians from all over the world including Israel can then decide if they wish to live there. Israel will have their land, including the West Bank and the Palestinians can have all of Jordan. Given the numbers this plan is much more fair to both sides, Israel keeps their small amount of land in the middle east and Palestine gets a very large area where they are currently already the majority. The Hebrew nation and the Palestinian Nation, two Semitic nations, the perfect two state solution.


I often hear Americans making this similar argument...only the problem is this...if say the US government decided they were going to give a bunch of land back to the Native Americans in some political appeasement move, and your land was among that being given away...would you leave it peacefully, despite being offered no compensation?

Probably not.

And when those Native Americans came to take your house and live on your land, would you just walk away and forget about it?

Probably not.

In fact, you'd probably devote a lot of your time to trying to drive those Native Americans back off your land, the land that was given to them by a government that had no right to give it to them.

And they'd probably label you a 'terrorist'. And after a few decades passed, people would forget that you're just fighting against a great injustice that was done to you, and they'd forget that you're the good guy in the situation. And then you really would be a 'terrorist'.

And then when people on a Fark thread suggest you just suck it up and go live somewhere else where there are lots of other WASPS to keep you company, how do you think you'd react to that?

Do you think you would EVER just drop it, and let those people get away with stealing your land? Your families land?

Probably not.

You folks can throw the anti-semetic race card around all you want, but the simple truth of the matter is, you're not the good guys in the Palestinia/Israeli conflict. You're the aggressor. You came in after WWII, guns blazing, and you chased innocent people out of the homes they built, from their land, and you did it all on the basis of an extremely flimsy, and legally ludicrous argument - 'we used to live here thousands of years ago.'

Well, the Native Americans lived in Texas thousands of years before Texans did. Does that give them the legal right to drive everyone in Texas out of their homes under threat of murder?

Yeah, I didn't think so.
2012-07-24 03:52:45 PM  
2 votes:

Eshkar: To be honest I don't give a flying fark what the UN has to say, nor the international community, they can all suck my big toe. Lets play a numbers game As of 2010 Israel's Palestinian population was ~20%... Jordan's Palestinian population is ~70%... so Palestinians are the majority in Jordan... so that makes Jordan a Palestinian Country, so Palestinians should rule Jordan (but they are violently oppressed, far worse than anything Israel has ever done). So solution to problem is for Jordan to become the Palestinian homeland (like the original UN plan... which I don't even care about), Palestinians from all over the world including Israel can then decide if they wish to live there. Israel will have their land, including the West Bank and the Palestinians can have all of Jordan. Given the numbers this plan is much more fair to both sides, Israel keeps their small amount of land in the middle east and Palestine gets a very large area where they are currently already the majority. The Hebrew nation and the Palestinian Nation, two Semitic nations, the perfect two state solution.


See, this is exactly my point. All of the talk about a Palestinian state on the West Bank of the Jordan River? a smoke screen. But beware, if you get what you want Israel will lose its soul. It cannot be Jewish, democratic and have all that land. You can have 2 of 3, and since you've already picked land, you have to choose between being a Jewish state (by systematically excluding non-Jews from the political process) or being democratic (by accepting the demographic time-bomb that is all the Palestinians in your occupied lands).

/You weren't thinking of ethnic cleansing, were you?
2012-07-24 03:40:22 PM  
2 votes:

Eshkar: But hey I am glad you can make reference and "fact" checking via wikipedia. If my past college professors wouldn't accept it as a source neither will I.


You do know an adhominem like that immediately tells everyone you got nuthin', right?

Ironic that you did it in response to a fact check challenge too.
2012-07-24 03:24:33 PM  
2 votes:
FTFA: Responding to the uproar later last week, the BBC edited Israel's profile on their site. Did it list Jerusalem as the capital of Israel? Of course not. It listed it as the "seat of government." What the flying falafel does that even mean?

Dude, there are other countries where the "capital" and the "seat of government" are located in different cities":

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You (Israel) are not so special as you like to think you are, (despite of the U.S.A. still being your biatch)
2012-07-24 03:20:33 PM  
2 votes:

Delawheredad: The BBC has been penalized before for an anti-Israel bias. Some things never change.


Yeah, you're right, those Israelis can't deal with anything that they perceive as "anti-Israel".
2012-07-24 03:19:33 PM  
2 votes:
Eshkar: Wow, I see Storm Front found their way in.

Feh. You get called on your BS and play the Jew Card. Reading your drivel on this thread, that seems to be about your speed.
But I don't hate Jewish people--there are lots of righteous ones. Not too fond of the chickensh*t Zion uber alles ones though.
Look in the mirror and you'll see one.
2012-07-24 03:02:04 PM  
2 votes:
A government doesn't make a city the capital of the country. The capital of the Netherlands is Amsterdam, but the Dutch government is in Den Haag. The capital of Bolivia is Sucre, but the government has its seat in La Paz.
Israel has to face the fact that they occupied Jerusalem which according to the original plans of the UN wasn't going to be part of Israel OR Palestine. Most countries won't validate Israels occupation of Jerusalem by recognizing it as the capital of the country.
2012-07-24 02:00:34 PM  
2 votes:

Eshkar: On another note, United Jerusalem is the Capital of Israel,


Does that mean they'll stop evicting Palestinians from their homes then?
2012-07-24 01:31:43 PM  
2 votes:
CIA World Factbook:

Capital: name: Jerusalem

note: Israel proclaimed Jerusalem as its capital in 1950, but the US, like all other countries, maintains its Embassy in Tel Aviv
2012-07-24 01:29:07 PM  
2 votes:
Painfully unfunny and forced humor over a minor slight. Prove this was less an error by some net geek and focused anti-semitism you idiot, otherwise you are no less a douche than you claim the BBC to be.
2012-07-24 01:24:12 PM  
2 votes:
Who farking cares?
2012-07-24 01:21:56 PM  
2 votes:

Satanic_Hamster: Hmmm. Well, the Knesset is located in Jerusalem. Say what you will about the legality of the land usage/grab, but Israel is a real country and that is where they run their national government out of.


OK, so where's the capital of Tibet then?
2012-07-24 01:17:48 PM  
2 votes:
Still better than CNN.
2012-07-25 10:31:39 AM  
1 vote:

liam76: Care to try and back that claim up, or are you just another lying sack of shiat, who when confronted about a double standard towards Israel has to make up lies about the person who points it out?


Dude, you're whining up and down this thread. It's all you do in every thread I've ever seen you in. Sorry for pointing it out, but it's no lie. Neither is the fact that Jerusalem is not internationally recognized as being any country's capital city, a fact which the corrected BBC website now reflects. Get over it. Move on and quit whining.
Heb
2012-07-25 02:56:03 AM  
1 vote:

Eshkar: lumiere: My family, too, was kicked out of Spain [as I recall you writing in an earlier post]. At that time, Jews and Arabs lived in relative harmony.

Do I think the Jewish people deserve their own land. You betchya. But it cannot be justified on the backs of an existing, native population. In fact, when Herzl first proposed a land for the Jewish people, British Uganda was proposed by Chamberlain [see the British Uganda Program]. Argentina was also proposed.

My bone to pick is not with the Jewish people. It is with the aggressive Zionists who put Israel and the Jewish people above all else, including laws and social equities. I do not justify any acts of terrorism against any Jews and Israelis. Gandhi saw it coming. If you take a land by force, you also have to defend it with force.

Even former Israeli soldiers are starting to realize this reality. Here's an interview with Yonotan Shapira^.

All very good points; which I understand. As pointed out by Einstein the problem with Judaism and Israel, modern Judaism was designed for the Diaspro, hence why I think Israel needs to abandon the Jewish nation stance and embrace a more encompassing label as the Hebrew Nation. Make it much more Ethnic based and help diminish the confusion between ethnically Jewish and Jewish faith.
Second sadly the eggs are already broken, we can't put them back in their shells, what we can do is work toward a more peaceful existence with the Palestinians. I think Israel should work with the Palestinian people in freeing the 70% of the population of Jordon who are oppressed Palestinians, helping them in covert and overt ways toward a democratic Jordan that will be run by the majority which happen to be Palestinians. Then the Palestinians would have a country of their own. Palestinians within Israel (including west bank) could then decide if they want to go to the Palestinian country. I feel the majority will, and many old wounds will be healed because Israel worked toward giving them a home and country of their own, allowing them respect and helping them fight in a social (and yes possible literal) revolution which ended the suffering and oppression of their family and friends in Jordan.


You want an ethnically Jewish state? Blimey. Nice to see a good old fashioned racial bigot.
2012-07-24 09:37:16 PM  
1 vote:
Jewish ladies are definitely attractive.
2012-07-24 09:06:51 PM  
1 vote:

liam76: They went from blatant propaganda from Palestine and ignoring Israels actual capitol, to propaganda from Palestine and a bad spin on Israel's capitol. IT is still BS.


Give it up already! You're just starting to sound whiny and butthurt now.

Outside of Israel, very few countries recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capitol.

So quit with the necessary butthurt over the BBC saying something that most of the world's countries agree on.
2012-07-24 05:55:09 PM  
1 vote:

cc_rider: Eshkar: El Pachuco: Eshkar: cc_rider: To the best of my knowledge, the US government has never recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel in any official capacity. Obviously you know, the legality of the 1995 congressional bill has been disputed by all three administrations since, and unless you are a Constitutional lawyer, I am guessing that you are not an authority on what is legal or not legal in our foreign policy making decisions. I only say this, because you mention wikipedia being an untrusted source, and "because some random person on the internet said so" is even lower on the ladder of trusted sources, in my book.


He seems determined to ignore the fact that he's trying to make us accept his uncited claims as fact while claiming his own privilege to offhandedly dismiss our cited references. Wonder how many arguments he thinks he can win doing that?
2012-07-24 05:22:54 PM  
1 vote:

Eshkar: Ohlookabutterfly: Fart_Machine: Blogger whining about BBC comes off like a Ritalin addicted 13 year old complaining about people dissing dub step.

Every time I read something like this I visualize that farked up karate kid from Smokin Aces.

Is there a Jew alive who isn't a professional victim? Maybe you Christ killers would be more popular if you didn't have such an "us or them" attitude. Acknowledge that all people are equal, and realize anti-semitism isn't racism because you aren't a race. You segregate yourselves by religion and it's silly as well as self-destructive. ENOUGH WHINING already, oy vey.

Actually we are a Ethnic group within the Semitic race you bigot. Genetic testing has proven that over and over again. You just like to say we are so you feel better about your bigotry because it is ok to dislike a religion but not a race / ethnic group. We are a ethnic group within the Semitic race, we just happen to have a religion as well. Next you will be telling people from India they are really just Hindus and aren't a separate race.


Where did I say anything even remotely bigotted? You are not a race, you are a group of people who believe you are "chosen" and somehow better than all other peoples. As ye sow, so shall ye reap. But you go ahead and call anyone who disagrees with you an anti-semite, bigot or racist. Just because the words come from you're mouth that must make them fact. Heck, while your at it why not throw in troll and homophobe if we are going to start misusing labels out of ignorance. Tell me, why is it you have the words goyem and shiksa but there is no word in my language for "not male Canadian christian"? That sums up why people don't like you, you have words that mean "not jew(male)" and "not jew(female)".
2012-07-24 04:41:27 PM  
1 vote:

glassbottomboatcaptain: Eshkar: XveryYpettyZ: Eshkar: Why don't you create them a state in Montana or some where like that... considering the Palestinian "refuge" population in the US... that is essentially what you are asking Israel to do. What we call Jordan is actually Palestine. If you want to biatch at someone about the plight of the Palestinians biatch at the Jordanians who oppress 70% of their population (Palestinians) because they know they stole their country. Heck Jordan is refusing entry to Palestinians fleeing Syria while allowing everyone else safe haven in Jordan. Palestine = Jordan :: Palestine ≠ Israel

1948 boundaries. That is all.

To be honest I don't give a flying fark what the UN has to say, nor the international community, they can all suck my big toe. Lets play a numbers game As of 2010 Israel's Palestinian population was ~20%... Jordan's Palestinian population is ~70%... so Palestinians are the majority in Jordan... so that makes Jordan a Palestinian Country, so Palestinians should rule Jordan (but they are violently oppressed, far worse than anything Israel has ever done). So solution to problem is for Jordan to become the Palestinian homeland (like the original UN plan... which I don't even care about), Palestinians from all over the world including Israel can then decide if they wish to live there. Israel will have their land, including the West Bank and the Palestinians can have all of Jordan. Given the numbers this plan is much more fair to both sides, Israel keeps their small amount of land in the middle east and Palestine gets a very large area where they are currently already the majority. The Hebrew nation and the Palestinian Nation, two Semitic nations, the perfect two state solution.

I often hear Americans making this similar argument...only the problem is this...if say the US government decided they were going to give a bunch of land back to the Native Americans in some political appeasement move, and your land was among that being given away...would y ...


Bravo. I'm going to love seeing the response to this.

I'm just going to add one thing:

MAHATMA GANDHI ON THE CREATION OF ISRAEL

My sympathies are all with the Jews. I have known them intimately in South Africa. Some of them became life-long companions. Through these friends I came to learn much of their age-long persecution. They have been the untouchables of Christianity. The parallel between their treatment by Christians and the treatment of untouchables by Hindus is very close. Religious sanction has been invoked in both cases for the justification of the inhuman treatment meted out to them. Apart from the friendships, therefore, there is the more common universal reason for my sympathy for the Jews.

But my sympathy does not blind me to the requirements of justice. The cry for the national home for the Jews does not make much appeal to me. The sanction for it is sought in the Bible and the tenacity with which the Jews have hankered after return to Palestine. Why should they not, like other peoples of the earth, make that country their home where they are born and where they earn their livelihood?

Palestine belongs to the Arabs in the same sense that England belongs to the English or France to the French. It is wrong and in-human to impose the Jews on the Arabs. What is going on in Palestine today cannot be justified by any moral code of conduct. The mandates have no sanction but that of the last war. Surely it would be a crime against humanity to reduce the proud Arabs so that Palestine can be restored to the Jews partly or wholly as their national home.

The nobler course would be to insist on a just treatment of the Jews wherever they are born and bred. The Jews born in France are French in precisely the same sense that Christians born in France are French. If the Jews have no home but Palestine, will they relish the idea of being forced to leave the other parts of the world in which they are settled? Or do they want a double home where they can remain at will? This cry for the national home affords a colourable justification for the German expulsion of the Jews.

...And now a word to the Jews in Palestine. I have no doubt that they are going about it the wrong way. The Palestine of the Biblical conception is not a geographical tract. It is in their hearts. But if they must look to the Palestine of geography as their national home, it is wrong to enter it under the shadow of the British gun. A religious act cannot be performed with the aid of the bayonet or the bomb. They can settle in Palestine only by the goodwill of the Arabs. They should seek to convert the Arab heart.... (November 1938)

Source^
2012-07-24 04:40:12 PM  
1 vote:

Eshkar: No they don't love Israel... they just like that Israel exist so Jesus can come back. They support Israel so their apocalyptic fantasy's can come true.
I don't hate Christians, I just dislike that for over 2000 years they have a bad habit of killing us... chasing my family out of Spain... you know the norm for the past 2000 years.


My goodness, aren't you dramatic. Maybe I should trot out the generations of victimhood my family endured from being chased out of France for being Protestant to being chased out of the Volga river valley for being German. I've got it, why don't we vomit up all the injustice that was done centuries in the past (Spain? Really? The reconquista was 520 years ago... but hey, it's "the norm" right?) and use it as a prism to view the world. In this victim world it doesn't matter what wrongs I do to others because they're justified by wrongs done to my nominal ancestors whom I never met.

/Or, you know, I could grow up and live in 2012 without the dramatic bullshiat.
2012-07-24 04:27:24 PM  
1 vote:

Eshkar: El Pachuco: [t2.gstatic.com image 105x120]

I get it, the writer claims to be a comedian so presumably that was supposed to be funny somehow.

He is a very funny comedian in Israel; I quite enjoy his humor.

rudemix: Painfully unfunny and forced humor over a minor slight. Prove this was less an error by some net geek and focused anti-semitism you idiot, otherwise you are no less a douche than you claim the BBC to be.

Keep up with news, this has been an ongoing scandal, they originally didn't have any capital listed for Israel and then did this shiat; now the Prime Minsiter's office has sent them a letter demanding it changed to Jerusalem as the Capital and they have so far refused.

varmitydog: I can easily see how the BBC could arrive at such a conclusion. In purely economic terms the American Congress in Washington funds Israel, so they can't really be sure whether the Israeli capital is Jerusalem or Washington DC. They are just being cautious here.

Do me a favor... get your facts straight you clot pole before you open your ignorant mouth. Israel receives only a small percentage of their national income from the US. The US is the one that insist on giving Israel money; Israel hasn't even spent most of the money the US has given it in the past few years. Israel is self sufficient and able to fully protect itself. The majority of new tech is being created in Israel; all the nice toys you have wouldn't be here if it weren't for Israel.

On another note, United Jerusalem is the Capital of Israel, there really isn't anything anyone can do about it; write your strongly worded letters and write your angry blog post about it; it won't change anything. Israel is here to stay, get used to it; the 2000 years of deeply seated antisemitism based on religious intolerance (yes even in you agnostics and atheist, you have been contaminated by 2000+ years of Christian hate, you may not realize it but your biased against Israel is actually rooted in a social norm of deep seated ...


Christian hate? Check your facts. Nobody loves Israel more than fire-breathing Baptist preachers.
2012-07-24 04:00:42 PM  
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Sock Ruh Tease: That was a lot of butthurt condensed into one article. From Wikipedia: "The UN and most countries do not recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital, taking the position that the final status of Jerusalem is pending future negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority"

You want a recognized capital? Negotiate, assholes.


And we're done. Some comedian gets a bug up his ass over the fact that no one recognizes Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, because it's still in dispute, and somehow it's the fault of... the BBC?

Hey, stupid comedian - direct your ire to Israel, or to the UN, but the BBC is, in fact, doing its job. Reporting.
2012-07-24 03:48:09 PM  
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Eshkar: Fart_Machine: El Pachuco: Eshkar: But hey I am glad you can make reference and "fact" checking via wikipedia. If my past college professors wouldn't accept it as a source neither will I.

You do know an adhominem like that immediately tells everyone you got nuthin', right?

Ironic that you did it in response to a fact check challenge too.

He's gonna call you a racist now.

Nah, I only call racist... racist.


Good bye troll. Go be a victim somewhere else.
2012-07-24 03:45:30 PM  
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El Pachuco: Eshkar: But hey I am glad you can make reference and "fact" checking via wikipedia. If my past college professors wouldn't accept it as a source neither will I.

You do know an adhominem like that immediately tells everyone you got nuthin', right?

Ironic that you did it in response to a fact check challenge too.


He's gonna call you a racist now.
2012-07-24 03:40:24 PM  
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Magorn: This is why the capital of say, West Germany was moved from Berlin to Bonn during the cold war


No, that's not why. It wasn't some freshman poli-sci paper's half-assed legal theory about other claimants. They didn't want the capital in Berlin because it was essentially behind enemy lines, cut off and indefensible.
2012-07-24 03:39:23 PM  
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I see we've already covered "if you criticize Israel you hate the joooos!" victimology.
2012-07-24 03:35:46 PM  
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Eshkar: As of 2010 Israel's Palestinian population was ~20%... Jordan's Palestinian population is ~70%... so Palestinians are the majority in Jordan... so that makes Jordan a Palestinian Country


Black Population in South Africa : 78%
Black Population in Haiti : 85%

Let's return Haiti to Africa where they belong.
2012-07-24 03:32:55 PM  
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liam76: Mrtraveler01: /What are the "realities" anyway

Well there are the realities that the Knesset is in Jersualem, in an part of land that is undisputed (even though you kept trying to pretend that all of Jeruslaem was disputed), the Palestine has no govt there, that they have no embassies there, etc.


Yes but like I said, none of that disputes the fact that very few countries consider Jerusalem to be the official capitol of Israel.
2012-07-24 03:19:52 PM  
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Eshkar: Just because the President doesn't like a law doesn't give him the right to ignore it.


As long as the statute in question can be argued to be unconstitutional, yes, it does.
2012-07-24 03:19:38 PM  
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Eshkar: El Pachuco: Eshkar: cc_rider: You know who else doesn't officially recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel?

Us.

Actually the US does. The Jerusalem Embassy Act which went into effect Nov. 8 1995, which calls for the US Embassy to be moved to Jerusalem does recognize the undivided city of Jerusalem as the Capital of Israel. It just so happens that every US President since it was passed into law has illegally refused to enforce this law. So yes the US does recognize the undivided city of Jerusalem as the Capital of the State of Israel. (if the Jews and Israel have so much control over the US why hasn't a US President implemented this law... because we don't and it's an antisemitic delusion... now go put on your foil hats (not directed at person I was responding to))

The CIA's Factbook disagrees with you. The US does not officially recognize Jerusalem as the capital.

As for the Jerusalem Embassy Act, Wikipedia sez: Since passage, the law has never been implemented, because of opposition from Presidents Clinton, Bush, and Obama, who view it as a Congressional infringement on the executive branch's constitutional authority over foreign policy; they have consistently claimed the presidential waiver on national security interests.

These are very easy to fact check. Why didn't you?

Just because the President doesn't like a law doesn't give him the right to ignore it. The CIA answers to the President. The US Congress has final say on all Foreign policy and has the right to overrule the President. Hence the reason Congress has to declare wars and ratify treaties. The Presidents since this law was passed and ratified by Congress have illegally chosen not to obey a Law passed by congress. But hey I am glad you can make reference and "fact" checking via wikipedia. If my past college professors wouldn't accept it as a source neither will I.


That it is illegal hasn't been decided. If Congress cared they could attempt to force the issue through the courts. Until that happens (and it won't, because the law was nothing more than a sop to domestic constituent groups) the president and congress just have differing legal opinions which haven't yet been adjudicated.

/translation: the vote is tied 1 to 1 and neither side is calling for a tie-breaker. It's not illegal until the courts weigh in.
2012-07-24 03:15:30 PM  
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liam76: First off BBC isn't taking the same stance as the rest of the world, otherwise they wouldn't have at first given Jerusalem as the capitol of Palestine.


Did it say it was the official capitol or just the "intended" capitol?

liam76: They say that Pelestine wants it there but makes no mention about the realities. They ignore what Israel wants, refuse to acknowledge it is the actual capitol, and go out of their way to point out that Embassies aren't there.

They got caught showing clear double standards. After that they still show double standards.


The ones that exist in your head.

/What are the "realities" anyway?
2012-07-24 03:08:31 PM  
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Eshkar: cc_rider: You know who else doesn't officially recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel?

Us.

Actually the US does. The Jerusalem Embassy Act which went into effect Nov. 8 1995, which calls for the US Embassy to be moved to Jerusalem does recognize the undivided city of Jerusalem as the Capital of Israel. It just so happens that every US President since it was passed into law has illegally refused to enforce this law. So yes the US does recognize the undivided city of Jerusalem as the Capital of the State of Israel. (if the Jews and Israel have so much control over the US why hasn't a US President implemented this law... because we don't and it's an antisemitic delusion... now go put on your foil hats (not directed at person I was responding to))


The CIA's Factbook disagrees with you. The US does not officially recognize Jerusalem as the capital.

As for the Jerusalem Embassy Act, Wikipedia sez: Since passage, the law has never been implemented, because of opposition from Presidents Clinton, Bush, and Obama, who view it as a Congressional infringement on the executive branch's constitutional authority over foreign policy; they have consistently claimed the presidential waiver on national security interests.

These are very easy to fact check. Why didn't you?
2012-07-24 02:55:20 PM  
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liam76: They say that Pelestine wants it there but makes no mention about the realities. They ignore what Israel wants, refuse to acknowledge it is the actual capitol, and go out of their way to point out that Embassies aren't there.

They got caught showing clear double standards. After that they still show double standards.


So you're upset that the BBC is taking the same stance as 90% of the Western World (including the US) in regards to what is recognized as the capital of Israel?


The United States views as desirable the establishing of an international regime for the city.[32] Its final status must be resolved through negotiations[33] and it does not recognise Jerusalem as Israel's capital.[34]

Clearly this proves that the BBC hates Israel.
2012-07-24 02:53:56 PM  
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Eshkar: Actually we are a Ethnic group within the Semitic race you bigot. Genetic testing has proven that over and over again.

I'm not agreeing with the Stormfront asshole, but I'm not sure this is the argument you want to go with. If you do, then you have to acknowledge that important laws, including the Law of Return, which affect one's ability to obtain citizenship and political rights (with the exception of a class of Arabs that were grandfathered in) create castes based on ethnicity, which makes you sound like South Africa during apartheid.

Not to mention that it's not actually true, because converts are Jews, yet not ethnically "Jewish."
2012-07-24 02:37:48 PM  
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Fart_Machine: Blogger whining about BBC comes off like a Ritalin addicted 13 year old complaining about people dissing dub step.


Every time I read something like this I visualize that farked up karate kid from Smokin Aces.

Is there a Jew alive who isn't a professional victim? Maybe you Christ killers would be more popular if you didn't have such an "us or them" attitude. Acknowledge that all people are equal, and realize anti-semitism isn't racism because you aren't a race. You segregate yourselves by religion and it's silly as well as self-destructive. ENOUGH WHINING already, oy vey.
2012-07-24 02:24:59 PM  
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Magorn

grotto_man:

Anyway, for those of you interested in correctives to the Bigoted Broadcasting Company's BS can take a gander at http://honestreporting.com/ , and to find just for the BBC there's http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=12 .

Since they didn't Build it, the only claim that Israel ever had to Jerusalem was by right of conquest in the regin of David.


The right they have is first and foremost - self determination. The population of what's now Israel was overwhelmingly majority Jewish when they European mandates that were the interim to the break up of the Ottoman empire expired - same of for Jordan, Syria, etc.


Any title claim that gave them on the city was susbequently extinguished by an equally valid "rigth of Conquest" claim from : The Babylonians, The Assyrians, The Macedonians, The Romans, the Arabs, The Crusaders, the Turks and the British. Now you could argue they re-acquired title in 1967 in the same way, but unfortunately for ISrael, the valdity of territorial aquistiton by conquest was more or less extinguished in international law after WWII and under the articles that created the UN (and since the UN is also the sole source of validity of the existence of an Israeli state at all...)

So in your book the conquest by the Arabs was OK because it was before WWI. How convenient.

This is one of the reasons they've tried so very hard to ethnically cleanse East Jerusalem so they can claim the city is basically all Israeli anyway so why not "recognize the reality on the ground" -more or less the same argument they use everytime they steal more land for their "settlers"

Interesting how closely you parrot some of the lies the BBC has made, and been called out on. In one of the links I from the BBC category I posted - http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=4&x_outlet=12&x_article=204 0 :

Mr. Giles's complaint relies in part on his assertion, with ominous undertones, that CAMERA's brief video "re-edited" the Panorama documentary and shows only excerpts from the programme.

Of course, it's obvious that a 15-minute video meant to draw attention to journalistic malpractice in a 30-minute documentary, and to highlight the BBC's inadequate defence of its programme, by necessity must rely on excerpts and montages. Indeed, the video also selectively excerpts examples from CAMERA's complaint, omitting, for the sake of brevity, other instances of the documentary's violation of the Editorial Guidelines.

Readers should take note that, importantly, Mr. Giles does not directly refute even one of the points we made in the video, evidently seeking instead to distract readers with incoherent and incongruous commentary. He says nothing about BBC's out-of-context statistics. There is not a word of explanation for why the BBC twice relayed unsubstantiated and false accusations that Jerusalem is being ethnically cleansed of Arabs when, in fact, the city's Arab population is growing faster than its Jewish population. Nor does he attempt to explain why the BBC does not refer to acts of Palestinian terrorism even while it charges Jews with acts of violence.


And of course, in the real world they're not "stealing land". There are plenty of Arabs living in the West Bank/Yesha areas under Israeli control, and they're building on the land they own, which title Israel recognizes. And the demonic "settlers" of your overworked and fervid imagination are Jews building on land they own. And of course there's a large number of Arab citizens in pre-1967 area Israel.

Meanwhile, the PA and Hamas areas are Judenfrei - no Jews allowed to live in the areas they control. But they're like the rest of the Arab Middle East, which ethnically cleansed its Jews (a fact which you and your ilk gleefully ignore) - http://www.jimena.org .
2012-07-24 02:16:12 PM  
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Eskar: Do me a favor... get your facts straight you clot pole before you open your ignorant mouth. Israel receives only a small percentage of their national income from the US. The US is the one that insist on giving Israel money; Israel hasn't even spent most of the money the US has given it in the past few years. Israel is self sufficient and able to fully protect itself. The majority of new tech is being created in Israel; all the nice toys you have wouldn't be here if it weren't for Israel.

Aye, why don't you take your Israeli propaganda and shove it straight up your APAIC ass, eh?
Israel would not exist without the United States of America propping it up--it is most decidedly NOT the other way around.
And claiming that our despicable US Congress is just itching to give Israel money isn't exactly a true statement either, not when you consider that the Jewish lobby has been allowed to get away with essentially blackmailing them by the corrupt US court system.

I am an American, and I don't give a fat rat's ass about Israel. It is painful enough to watch you damned Jews play our system like a fiddle--and when smarmy loose with the truth assh*les like you decide to rub it in, it is easy to see why all those Spanish Inquistions, Russian Pogroms and Nazi Holocausts occurred.
2012-07-24 02:08:08 PM  
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liam76: Yet they claimed the capitol of Palestine as Jerusalem.


From the BBC Olympic website:

Palestine: Intended seat of government: East Jerusalem. Ramallah serves as administrative capital.

Israel: Seat of government: Jerusalem, though most foreign embassies are in Tel Aviv.

OH MY FARKING GOD THE BBC IS SO ANTI-SEMETIC!!!11111111111!!!!
2012-07-24 02:06:24 PM  
1 vote:
fark Israel. fark them right in their tuches.
2012-07-24 02:05:49 PM  
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Blogger whining about BBC comes off like a Ritalin addicted 13 year old complaining about people dissing dub step.
2012-07-24 01:59:19 PM  
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Dr Dreidel:
// also, the UN HQ is in NY - does that make NY the "seat of government" of the US?
// after all, the world's embassy is there


Hey, I think you might have drooled a little bit on your yarmulke while you were making this completely stupid point.
2012-07-24 01:57:30 PM  
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PonceAlyosha: ph0rk: focused anti-semitism

Isn't Israel largely made up of non-semetic Jews anyway? They need to find a more appropriate descriptor, given that Israel is the one proactively oppressing a group of semites in their territories.


In the sense it's being used here, all Jews are Semitic people. In the broadest sense, Semitic refers to a fairly large group of languages of middle eastern origin and the various ethnic groups who spoke those languages and their descendents. So, in that sense, all Jews and all Arabs are Semitic peoples, even if individually they don't happen to speak Hebrew or Arabic or whatever anymore.

In the more narrow, and more commonly used, sense, Semitic or anti-Semitic is pretty much exclusively associated with Jews. IIRC, it dates back to the 1800s (Germany, I think) in an attempt to make anti-Jewish prejudice have a more scientific sounding basis (eg. the Aryan races are superior to the Semitic races).

Anyway, it's a potentially confusing word.

Perhaps you were confusing Semitic with a Jewish ethnic division like Sephardi.
2012-07-24 01:51:20 PM  
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It's news to that part of Jerusalem which had never been "disputed" territory that is is "disputed". The reason there is an "East" Jerusalem and a "West" Jerusalem is to delineate between the "occupied" and "unoccupied" parts.

The fact that Israel put its capital in that part which isn't really in dispute should set this stupid debate to rest. It may not be a smart idea to put the capital on a contested border, but that's big talk from a guy whose capital is right next to the Atlantic Ocean.

Oh, and as someone pointed out, it's tough to negotiate the status of Jerusalem "at a later date" when even getting to the negotiating table usually requires them to set aside the discussion of what happens to Jerusalem. Sometime in the last 60 years, someone decided that a divided Jerusalem was a better status quo than actually hammering out a decision.

But yeah, Knesset's in Jerusalem and apart from embassies, all official business happens there.

// also, the UN HQ is in NY - does that make NY the "seat of government" of the US?
// after all, the world's embassy is there
2012-07-24 01:44:05 PM  
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Magorn

Would he have been happier if they listed Tel Aviv?

They did that already. In their eagerness to spread their anti-Israel agenda, they decided to completely ignore reality.

One of the few rules of nations is that you aren;t allowed to claim a city as a capital that doesn;t rightfully belong to you or half-belongs to someone else.

Luckily, that's not the case with Jerusalem. And it's funny how the Arab states didn't respect the sacrosanctity of borders when they invaded Israel at its creation, then whined about the results of that and later wars they started after the fact. Or that the pre-1967 "border" was just a cease-fire line in the first place.

And in fact the Knesset and the other Israeli government offices are within the pre-1967 Green Line anyway. But the Magorns and BBCs of the world know better than to let facts, logic, or fairness get in the way when there's Israel-bashing to do!

This is why the capital of say, West Germany was moved from Berlin to Bonn during the cold war

Complete and utter nonsense.

Berlin had been the capital of united Germany, not West Germany. The capital of West Germany was never Berlin. And they could have put their capital in West Berlin if they had chosen to. The reason they didn't was practicality and security. West Berlin was a tiny enclave completely surrounded by hostile territory and it was miles from the rest of West Germany. It had nothing to do with "legality".

Anyway, for those of you interested in correctives to the Bigoted Broadcasting Company's BS can take a gander at http://honestreporting.com/ , and to find just for the BBC there's http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=12 .
2012-07-24 01:42:50 PM  
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I just looked through the BBC Olympic site he is complaining about......I don't see the capitals of any countries listed under their profiles...

WTF is he talking about?
2012-07-24 01:41:41 PM  
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Turns out that in the spirit of the Olympic motto, "Faster, Higher, Stronger," the BBC has decided to change its journalistic standards to "Lower, Dumber, and Jesus Christ, who wrote this crap?"

So it's like if Ric Romero and the Florida tag had a bastard child?

That's an improvement for the BBC.
2012-07-24 01:41:22 PM  
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Sock Ruh Tease: That was a lot of butthurt condensed into one article. From Wikipedia: "The UN and most countries do not recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital, taking the position that the final status of Jerusalem is pending future negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority"

You want a recognized capital? Negotiate, assholes.


Let me translate that for you

The UN is a bunch of idiots whom the Israel hating nations have wrapped around their little finger and as such they're going to continue being petty about it. The 'final status' of Jerusalem pending 'future negotiations' basically means 'After the zionists have all been driven in to sea'. Israel has been at the negotiating table multiple times and its never worked out for one reason and one reason only: The people they are attempting to negotiate with want every Jew in Israel dead or removed and Israel consigned to the scrap heap of history. Where do you begin negotiating with such people? Do you say... "Well meet you half way, can you maybe only kill half of us or perhaps just severely beat us?" and try to work it out?

The only arseholes who need to learn how to negotiate are the ones that are suppose to be on the other side of the table from Israel.
2012-07-24 01:33:06 PM  
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The amount of butthurt was excessive for the given situation.
2012-07-24 01:32:07 PM  
1 vote:
cdn.timesofisrael.com

Sorry, what was that? I was distracted.
2012-07-24 01:31:12 PM  
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Hahaha there is no butthurt like Israeli jew butthurt
2012-07-24 01:28:24 PM  
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Sock Ruh Tease: That was a lot of butthurt condensed into one article. From Wikipedia: "The UN and most countries do not recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital, taking the position that the final status of Jerusalem is pending future negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority"

You want a recognized capital? Negotiate, assholes.


I woudl be fine with this rational if they didn't list Palestine's capital as East Jerusalem (has sicne changed it to "intended seat of govt").
2012-07-24 01:27:23 PM  
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Delawheredad: The BBC has been penalized before for an anti-Israel bias.


When, how and by who were they penalized?
2012-07-24 01:25:14 PM  
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ph0rk: For a nation virtually incapable of standing on its own feet, Israel sure talks a lot of smack.


I think Israel would do just fine for itself without the restraints of the UN.

/shudder
2012-07-24 01:22:28 PM  
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Magorn: Would he have been happier if they listed Tel Aviv?

One of the few rules of nations is that you aren;t allowed to claim a city as a capital that doesn;t rightfully belong to you or half-belongs to someone else. This is why the capital of say, West Germany was moved from Berlin to Bonn during the cold war


Your example would make more sense if East Germany's capital had not been East Berlin.
2012-07-24 01:21:08 PM  
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Sock Ruh Tease: That was a lot of butthurt condensed into one article. From Wikipedia: "The UN and most countries do not recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital, taking the position that the final status of Jerusalem is pending future negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority"

You want a recognized capital? Negotiate, assholes.


Palestianian Authority? Shouldn't that be "Jordan?" I thought that's who they took it from way back when.
2012-07-24 01:20:09 PM  
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Thank you google image search for finding the name of the chick in the picture...Bar Refaeli. Wow.
2012-07-24 01:19:30 PM  
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Magorn: Would he have been happier if they listed Tel Aviv?

One of the few rules of nations is that you aren;t allowed to claim a city as a capital that doesn;t rightfully belong to you or half-belongs to someone else. This is why the capital of say, West Germany was moved from Berlin to Bonn during the cold war


Those are really more of guidelines then rules.
2012-07-24 01:18:41 PM  
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Jesus, I understand your frustration but could you tone down the butthurt to about a 7?
2012-07-24 01:15:53 PM  
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Ooh, they changed it. Now it says "BBC, I'm the capital of your mom"
 
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