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2012-07-24 01:36:06 PM
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2012-07-24 01:36:27 PM

Flakeloaf: Satanic_Hamster: Hmmm. Well, the Knesset is located in Jerusalem. Say what you will about the legality of the land usage/grab, but Israel is a real country and that is where they run their national government out of.

OK, so where's the capital of Tibet then?


Technically, there isn't one. There is, however, a government in exile based out of northern India.

/During WWII, most of the European governments continued to exist in exile... at the Savoy and Ritz hotels.
//honestly not joking
 
2012-07-24 01:37:53 PM
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Here's a good slideshow...Link
 
2012-07-24 01:38:12 PM

Fabric_Man: Then why did East Germany keep their capital in Berlin?


Because Russians are assholes and East Germany was a puppet state of the USSR, who probably thought it made things look more legit if they kept the capital in Berlin.
 
2012-07-24 01:38:51 PM

Shatner's Bassoon: Delawheredad: The BBC has been penalized before for an anti-Israel bias.

When, how and by who were they penalized?


They were fined and banned from any journalistic awards such as the Pulitzer for 5 years.

/no idea if the Pulitzer is American only
//too lazy to wiki
 
2012-07-24 01:38:54 PM

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Sorry, what was that? I was distracted.

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2012-07-24 01:39:45 PM

crab66: Fabric_Man: Then why did East Germany keep their capital in Berlin?

Because Russians are assholes and East Germany was a puppet state of the USSR, who probably thought it made things look more legit if they kept the capital in Berlin.


The USSR totally missed out by not annexing that puppet state sooner - I mean they could totally afford to buy a courthouse outright.
 
2012-07-24 01:40:36 PM

Shatner's Bassoon: Delawheredad: The BBC has been penalized before for an anti-Israel bias.

When, how and by who were they penalized?


Line judge gave them a red card in the second half.
 
2012-07-24 01:41:22 PM

Sock Ruh Tease: That was a lot of butthurt condensed into one article. From Wikipedia: "The UN and most countries do not recognize Jerusalem as Israel's capital, taking the position that the final status of Jerusalem is pending future negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority"

You want a recognized capital? Negotiate, assholes.


Let me translate that for you

The UN is a bunch of idiots whom the Israel hating nations have wrapped around their little finger and as such they're going to continue being petty about it. The 'final status' of Jerusalem pending 'future negotiations' basically means 'After the zionists have all been driven in to sea'. Israel has been at the negotiating table multiple times and its never worked out for one reason and one reason only: The people they are attempting to negotiate with want every Jew in Israel dead or removed and Israel consigned to the scrap heap of history. Where do you begin negotiating with such people? Do you say... "Well meet you half way, can you maybe only kill half of us or perhaps just severely beat us?" and try to work it out?

The only arseholes who need to learn how to negotiate are the ones that are suppose to be on the other side of the table from Israel.
 
2012-07-24 01:41:23 PM
I don't care what anyone says, this is the best news article written in the last 2 years.
 
2012-07-24 01:41:41 PM
Turns out that in the spirit of the Olympic motto, "Faster, Higher, Stronger," the BBC has decided to change its journalistic standards to "Lower, Dumber, and Jesus Christ, who wrote this crap?"

So it's like if Ric Romero and the Florida tag had a bastard child?

That's an improvement for the BBC.
 
2012-07-24 01:42:49 PM

PowerSlacker:
Your example would make more sense if East Germany's capital had not been East Berlin.


That wasn't internationally recognised either. As the Wiki Of A Million Lies says

"East Germany and the Eastern Bloc diplomatically recognised East Berlin as the capital city of the German Democratic Republic, but the Western Allies disputed said recognition, considering the entire city of Berlin an occupied territory governed by the martial law of the Allied Control Council. According to Margarete Feinstein, East Berlin's status as the capital was largely unrecognized by the West and most Third World countries."

Incidentally, East Germany refused to recognise the state of Israel.
 
2012-07-24 01:42:50 PM
I just looked through the BBC Olympic site he is complaining about......I don't see the capitals of any countries listed under their profiles...

WTF is he talking about?
 
2012-07-24 01:44:05 PM
Magorn

Would he have been happier if they listed Tel Aviv?

They did that already. In their eagerness to spread their anti-Israel agenda, they decided to completely ignore reality.

One of the few rules of nations is that you aren;t allowed to claim a city as a capital that doesn;t rightfully belong to you or half-belongs to someone else.

Luckily, that's not the case with Jerusalem. And it's funny how the Arab states didn't respect the sacrosanctity of borders when they invaded Israel at its creation, then whined about the results of that and later wars they started after the fact. Or that the pre-1967 "border" was just a cease-fire line in the first place.

And in fact the Knesset and the other Israeli government offices are within the pre-1967 Green Line anyway. But the Magorns and BBCs of the world know better than to let facts, logic, or fairness get in the way when there's Israel-bashing to do!

This is why the capital of say, West Germany was moved from Berlin to Bonn during the cold war

Complete and utter nonsense.

Berlin had been the capital of united Germany, not West Germany. The capital of West Germany was never Berlin. And they could have put their capital in West Berlin if they had chosen to. The reason they didn't was practicality and security. West Berlin was a tiny enclave completely surrounded by hostile territory and it was miles from the rest of West Germany. It had nothing to do with "legality".

Anyway, for those of you interested in correctives to the Bigoted Broadcasting Company's BS can take a gander at http://honestreporting.com/ , and to find just for the BBC there's http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=12 .
 
2012-07-24 01:45:27 PM

Teufelaffe: I don't think I am alone when I say we should just ignore the article and make this a Bar Refaeli thread.


Here's a nice video of her gets very nice at about 35sec.
 
2012-07-24 01:47:03 PM

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: Ooh, they changed it. Now it says "BBC, I'm the capital of your mom"


http://blogs.timesofisrael.com/bbc-f-you-a-holes-suckit/
 
2012-07-24 01:50:34 PM

Israeli Geography:

Serious.

@#*&ing.

Business.
 
2012-07-24 01:51:20 PM
It's news to that part of Jerusalem which had never been "disputed" territory that is is "disputed". The reason there is an "East" Jerusalem and a "West" Jerusalem is to delineate between the "occupied" and "unoccupied" parts.

The fact that Israel put its capital in that part which isn't really in dispute should set this stupid debate to rest. It may not be a smart idea to put the capital on a contested border, but that's big talk from a guy whose capital is right next to the Atlantic Ocean.

Oh, and as someone pointed out, it's tough to negotiate the status of Jerusalem "at a later date" when even getting to the negotiating table usually requires them to set aside the discussion of what happens to Jerusalem. Sometime in the last 60 years, someone decided that a divided Jerusalem was a better status quo than actually hammering out a decision.

But yeah, Knesset's in Jerusalem and apart from embassies, all official business happens there.

// also, the UN HQ is in NY - does that make NY the "seat of government" of the US?
// after all, the world's embassy is there
 
2012-07-24 01:54:44 PM

Teufelaffe: I don't think I am alone when I say we should just ignore the article and make this a Bar Refaeli thread.


nope... not often that I can say that a woman look darn close to physical and beauty perfection... this is one.
 
2012-07-24 01:55:44 PM
Schmuck.
 
2012-07-24 01:57:12 PM

El Pachuco: [t2.gstatic.com image 105x120]

I get it, the writer claims to be a comedian so presumably that was supposed to be funny somehow.



He is a very funny comedian in Israel; I quite enjoy his humor.

rudemix: Painfully unfunny and forced humor over a minor slight. Prove this was less an error by some net geek and focused anti-semitism you idiot, otherwise you are no less a douche than you claim the BBC to be.



Keep up with news, this has been an ongoing scandal, they originally didn't have any capital listed for Israel and then did this shiat; now the Prime Minsiter's office has sent them a letter demanding it changed to Jerusalem as the Capital and they have so far refused.

varmitydog: I can easily see how the BBC could arrive at such a conclusion. In purely economic terms the American Congress in Washington funds Israel, so they can't really be sure whether the Israeli capital is Jerusalem or Washington DC. They are just being cautious here.



Do me a favor... get your facts straight you clot pole before you open your ignorant mouth. Israel receives only a small percentage of their national income from the US. The US is the one that insist on giving Israel money; Israel hasn't even spent most of the money the US has given it in the past few years. Israel is self sufficient and able to fully protect itself. The majority of new tech is being created in Israel; all the nice toys you have wouldn't be here if it weren't for Israel.

On another note, United Jerusalem is the Capital of Israel, there really isn't anything anyone can do about it; write your strongly worded letters and write your angry blog post about it; it won't change anything. Israel is here to stay, get used to it; the 2000 years of deeply seated antisemitism based on religious intolerance (yes even in you agnostics and atheist, you have been contaminated by 2000+ years of Christian hate, you may not realize it but your biased against Israel is actually rooted in a social norm of deep seated accepted hate of the Jewish people) can no longer hold back the Hebrew People.
 
2012-07-24 01:57:30 PM

PonceAlyosha: ph0rk: focused anti-semitism

Isn't Israel largely made up of non-semetic Jews anyway? They need to find a more appropriate descriptor, given that Israel is the one proactively oppressing a group of semites in their territories.


In the sense it's being used here, all Jews are Semitic people. In the broadest sense, Semitic refers to a fairly large group of languages of middle eastern origin and the various ethnic groups who spoke those languages and their descendents. So, in that sense, all Jews and all Arabs are Semitic peoples, even if individually they don't happen to speak Hebrew or Arabic or whatever anymore.

In the more narrow, and more commonly used, sense, Semitic or anti-Semitic is pretty much exclusively associated with Jews. IIRC, it dates back to the 1800s (Germany, I think) in an attempt to make anti-Jewish prejudice have a more scientific sounding basis (eg. the Aryan races are superior to the Semitic races).

Anyway, it's a potentially confusing word.

Perhaps you were confusing Semitic with a Jewish ethnic division like Sephardi.
 
2012-07-24 01:58:14 PM

PowerSlacker: Magorn: Would he have been happier if they listed Tel Aviv?

One of the few rules of nations is that you aren;t allowed to claim a city as a capital that doesn;t rightfully belong to you or half-belongs to someone else. This is why the capital of say, West Germany was moved from Berlin to Bonn during the cold war

Your example would make more sense if East Germany's capital had not been East Berlin.


West Germany wasn't formally in charge of the administration of West Berlin--France, the UK and the US shared that responsibility. It was for this reason that West Germany never stationed troops in West Berlin in the Cold War and NATO troops in West Berlin still earned WW2 Occupation Medals through 1990.

East Berlin was claimed as a capital of East Germany, but this was disputes by NATO, if I'm not mistaken.

Wikipedia has a decent summary of the legal nuances of Berlin in the Cold War...
 
2012-07-24 01:59:19 PM

Dr Dreidel:
// also, the UN HQ is in NY - does that make NY the "seat of government" of the US?
// after all, the world's embassy is there


Hey, I think you might have drooled a little bit on your yarmulke while you were making this completely stupid point.
 
2012-07-24 01:59:28 PM

Eshkar: On another note, United Jerusalem is the Capital of Israel, there really isn't anything anyone can do about it; write your strongly worded letters and write your angry blog post about it; it won't change anything. Israel is here to stay, get used to it; the 2000 years of deeply seated antisemitism based on religious intolerance (yes even in you agnostics and atheist, you have been contaminated by 2000+ years of Christian hate, you may not realize it but your biased against Israel is actually rooted in a social norm of deep seated accepted hate of the Jewish people) can no longer hold back the Hebrew People.


11/10
 
2012-07-24 02:00:34 PM

Eshkar: On another note, United Jerusalem is the Capital of Israel,


Does that mean they'll stop evicting Palestinians from their homes then?
 
2012-07-24 02:01:21 PM

xsive: whos the hottie in the yellow shiaty?


Am I that old or is that not obvious? I didn't need to read anything or do any research. I looked at the picture and recognized her instantly. She was on the cover of Sports Illustrated not too long ago.
 
2012-07-24 02:01:46 PM

grotto_man: Magorn

Would he have been happier if they listed Tel Aviv?

They did that already. In their eagerness to spread their anti-Israel agenda, they decided to completely ignore reality.

One of the few rules of nations is that you aren;t allowed to claim a city as a capital that doesn;t rightfully belong to you or half-belongs to someone else.

Luckily, that's not the case with Jerusalem. And it's funny how the Arab states didn't respect the sacrosanctity of borders when they invaded Israel at its creation, then whined about the results of that and later wars they started after the fact. Or that the pre-1967 "border" was just a cease-fire line in the first place.

And in fact the Knesset and the other Israeli government offices are within the pre-1967 Green Line anyway. But the Magorns and BBCs of the world know better than to let facts, logic, or fairness get in the way when there's Israel-bashing to do!

This is why the capital of say, West Germany was moved from Berlin to Bonn during the cold war

Complete and utter nonsense.

Berlin had been the capital of united Germany, not West Germany. The capital of West Germany was never Berlin. And they could have put their capital in West Berlin if they had chosen to. The reason they didn't was practicality and security. West Berlin was a tiny enclave completely surrounded by hostile territory and it was miles from the rest of West Germany. It had nothing to do with "legality".

Anyway, for those of you interested in correctives to the Bigoted Broadcasting Company's BS can take a gander at http://honestreporting.com/ , and to find just for the BBC there's http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=12 .


Since they didn't Build it, the only claim that Israel ever had to Jerusalem was by right of conquest in the regin of David. Any title claim that gave them on the city was susbequently extinguished by an equally valid "rigth of Conquest" claim from : The Babylonians, The Assyrians, The Macedonians, The Romans, the Arabs, The Crusaders, the Turks and the British. Now you could argue they re-acquired title in 1967 in the same way, but unfortunately for ISrael, the valdity of territorial aquistiton by conquest was more or less extinguished in international law after WWII and under the articles that created the UN (and since the UN is also the sole source of validity of the existence of an Israeli state at all...)

Ergo Israel, under international law has no valid legal claim to Jerusalem, only a sentimental one. This is one of the reasons they've tried so very hard to ethnically cleanse East Jerusalem so they can claim the city is basically all Israeli anyway so why not "recognize the reality on the ground" -more or less the same argument they use everytime they steal more land for their "settlers"
 
2012-07-24 02:03:22 PM

randomjsa: its never worked out for one reason and one reason only


Oversimplify much? Israel's idea of negotiation has been to say "No" and STFU to just about any proposal that doesn't give their spoiled asses everything they want.

My solution? Evacuate the damn "Holy Land" and turn into a toxic and nuclear waste dump. That or turn Jerusalem over to Disney for Invisible Friends Land.
 
2012-07-24 02:03:31 PM

Magorn: Would he have been happier if they listed Tel Aviv?

One of the few rules of nations is that you aren;t allowed to claim a city as a capital that doesn;t rightfully belong to you or half-belongs to someone else. This is why the capital of say, West Germany was moved from Berlin to Bonn during the cold war


Yet they claimed the capitol of Palestine as Jerusalem.

Also with your little East/West Germany analogy maybe you heard of the "Berlin airlift"? There were some important geographic differences that made the moving of the capitol a requirement.
 
2012-07-24 02:04:15 PM

Magorn: rgo Israel, under international law has no valid legal claim to Jerusalem, only a sentimental one. This is one of the reasons they've tried so very hard to ethnically cleanse East Jerusalem so they can claim the city is basically all Israeli anyway so why not "recognize the reality on the ground" -more or less the same argument they use everytime they steal more land for their "settlers"


Yeah, I mean I believe Israel has the right to exist as much as any other country but it's dickish things like this (ie: evicting Palestinians from their homes and then bulldozing their homes for yet another settlement) which make it really hard for me to defend them when they keep doing dickish things like that.

Is this a reasonable position to take?
 
2012-07-24 02:05:00 PM

johnnyq: PonceAlyosha: ph0rk: focused anti-semitism

Isn't Israel largely made up of non-semetic Jews anyway? They need to find a more appropriate descriptor, given that Israel is the one proactively oppressing a group of semites in their territories.

In the sense it's being used here, all Jews are Semitic people. In the broadest sense, Semitic refers to a fairly large group of languages of middle eastern origin and the various ethnic groups who spoke those languages and their descendents. So, in that sense, all Jews and all Arabs are Semitic peoples, even if individually they don't happen to speak Hebrew or Arabic or whatever anymore.

In the more narrow, and more commonly used, sense, Semitic or anti-Semitic is pretty much exclusively associated with Jews. IIRC, it dates back to the 1800s (Germany, I think) in an attempt to make anti-Jewish prejudice have a more scientific sounding basis (eg. the Aryan races are superior to the Semitic races).

Anyway, it's a potentially confusing word.

Perhaps you were confusing Semitic with a Jewish ethnic division like Sephardi.


If everyone just lumped Israelis in with the rest of the middle eastern/brown people (like they should) the world would be a simpler and better place.
 
2012-07-24 02:05:07 PM

Teufelaffe: I don't think I am alone when I say we should just ignore the article and make this a Bar Refaeli thread.

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If anyone wants me, I'll be in the Bar.
 
2012-07-24 02:05:49 PM
Blogger whining about BBC comes off like a Ritalin addicted 13 year old complaining about people dissing dub step.
 
2012-07-24 02:06:21 PM
Stop trying to be funny. It's not working.
 
2012-07-24 02:06:24 PM
fark Israel. fark them right in their tuches.
 
2012-07-24 02:08:08 PM

liam76: Yet they claimed the capitol of Palestine as Jerusalem.


From the BBC Olympic website:

Palestine: Intended seat of government: East Jerusalem. Ramallah serves as administrative capital.

Israel: Seat of government: Jerusalem, though most foreign embassies are in Tel Aviv.

OH MY FARKING GOD THE BBC IS SO ANTI-SEMETIC!!!11111111111!!!!
 
2012-07-24 02:09:28 PM
Hmm;

Olympics - no one cares.

Israel - no one cares.

My conclusion; Get a life you whiny little puke.
 
2012-07-24 02:10:47 PM

Eshkar: On another note, United Jerusalem is the Capital of Israel, there really isn't anything anyone can do about it; write your strongly worded letters and write your angry blog post about it; it won't change anything. Israel is here to stay, get used to it; the 2000 years of deeply seated antisemitism based on religious intolerance (yes even in you agnostics and atheist, you have been contaminated by 2000+ years of Christian hate, you may not realize it but your biased against Israel is actually rooted in a social norm of deep seated accepted hate of the Jewish people) can no longer hold back the Hebrew People.


Interesting, so when I didn't like South Africa it was because of my Anti-Hebrew bias? Because creating fictionally independent areas and then treating the residents as foreign workers without rights was exactly what South Africa did... and was Israel is doing. Want to end this valid criticism of your apartheid policy? Stop stalling for time and allow for the creation of a sovereign Palestinian state with real territorial integrity. But that won't happen. Israel will continue to stall, continue to kneel out to clock, continue to expand illegal settlements and allow these fake-nation refugee camps without jobs or security and subject to illegal collective punishment at the hands of the IDF to be the future for Arabs under Israeli rule.
 
2012-07-24 02:11:15 PM

XveryYpettyZ: Dr Dreidel:
// also, the UN HQ is in NY - does that make NY the "seat of government" of the US?
// after all, the world's embassy is there

Hey, I think you might have drooled a little bit on your yarmulke while you were making this completely stupid point.


I think I may have gotten the point backwards, but that's no reason to be borderline anti-Semitic about it. Have a nice piece chick'n, you'll feel better. Maybe some gribnes with? And a bissel coffee?

// also, Esti Ginsburg > Bar Refaeli
// civic duty style points FTW
 
2012-07-24 02:11:23 PM

Magorn: Now you could argue they re-acquired title in 1967 in the same way, but unfortunately for ISrael, the valdity of territorial aquistiton by conquest was more or less extinguished in international law after WWII and under the articles that created the UN (and since the UN is also the sole source of validity of the existence of an Israeli state at all...)

Ergo Israel, under international law has no valid legal claim to Jerusalem, only a sentimental one. This is one of the reasons they've tried so very hard to ethnically cleanse East Jerusalem so they can claim the city is basically all Israeli anyway so why not "recognize the reality on the ground" -more or less the same argument they use everytime they steal more land for their "settlers


You do realize the part of Jerusalem that Israel has their seat of govt in is on the Pre-67 land, right? So yes they do have legal right to claim it as their capitol.
 
2012-07-24 02:12:16 PM

hitlersbrain: Hmm;

Olympics - no one cares.

Israel - no one cares.

My conclusion; Get a life you whiny little puke.


My guess is that it's a continuation of the butthurt over the fact that the BBC is not a constant cheerleader for Israel compared to it's competitors in the US.
 
2012-07-24 02:16:00 PM

Mrtraveler01: liam76: Yet they claimed the capitol of Palestine as Jerusalem.

From the BBC Olympic website:

Palestine: Intended seat of government: East Jerusalem. Ramallah serves as administrative capital.

Israel: Seat of government: Jerusalem, though most foreign embassies are in Tel Aviv.

OH MY FARKING GOD THE BBC IS SO ANTI-SEMETIC!!!11111111111!!!!


Notice the past tense?



XveryYpettyZ: Interesting, so when I didn't like South Africa it was because of my Anti-Hebrew bias? Because creating fictionally independent areas and then treating the residents as foreign workers without rights was exactly what South Africa did... and was Israel is doing.


Really that is what SA did? I thought they decided, based on race, that there were four difference classes of people who had different rightd based on that classification.


XveryYpettyZ: But that won't happen.


Probably won't anytime soon. Mostly because when they pulled out of Gaza it was used to attack them.

I think they shoudl get out of the West bank, but I recognize how politically difficult that is after what happened in Gaza.
 
2012-07-24 02:16:12 PM
Eskar: Do me a favor... get your facts straight you clot pole before you open your ignorant mouth. Israel receives only a small percentage of their national income from the US. The US is the one that insist on giving Israel money; Israel hasn't even spent most of the money the US has given it in the past few years. Israel is self sufficient and able to fully protect itself. The majority of new tech is being created in Israel; all the nice toys you have wouldn't be here if it weren't for Israel.

Aye, why don't you take your Israeli propaganda and shove it straight up your APAIC ass, eh?
Israel would not exist without the United States of America propping it up--it is most decidedly NOT the other way around.
And claiming that our despicable US Congress is just itching to give Israel money isn't exactly a true statement either, not when you consider that the Jewish lobby has been allowed to get away with essentially blackmailing them by the corrupt US court system.

I am an American, and I don't give a fat rat's ass about Israel. It is painful enough to watch you damned Jews play our system like a fiddle--and when smarmy loose with the truth assh*les like you decide to rub it in, it is easy to see why all those Spanish Inquistions, Russian Pogroms and Nazi Holocausts occurred.
 
2012-07-24 02:18:35 PM

Dr Dreidel: XveryYpettyZ: Dr Dreidel:
// also, the UN HQ is in NY - does that make NY the "seat of government" of the US?
// after all, the world's embassy is there

Hey, I think you might have drooled a little bit on your yarmulke while you were making this completely stupid point.

I think I may have gotten the point backwards, but that's no reason to be borderline anti-Semitic about it. Have a nice piece chick'n, you'll feel better. Maybe some gribnes with? And a bissel coffee?

// also, Esti Ginsburg > Bar Refaeli
// civic duty style points FTW


I wasn't attempting to be borderline anti-Semitic. If you were a Southern-apologist talking about the "war of northern aggression" I would have substituted "stained confederate flag boxers" for "Yarmulke," or an objectivist would have gotten "copy of Atlas Shrugged". I just didn't think much of your point and needed something identifiable for you to have drooled on whilst making it. Obviously I was trying to be insulting, so apologizing would be somewhat disingenuous.
 
2012-07-24 02:18:56 PM
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2012-07-24 02:19:46 PM

liam76: Mrtraveler01: liam76: Yet they claimed the capitol of Palestine as Jerusalem.

From the BBC Olympic website:

Palestine: Intended seat of government: East Jerusalem. Ramallah serves as administrative capital.

Israel: Seat of government: Jerusalem, though most foreign embassies are in Tel Aviv.

OH MY FARKING GOD THE BBC IS SO ANTI-SEMETIC!!!11111111111!!!!

Notice the past tense?


Past tense?

Do you not know how to use the word "intended"?

Jesus, are you really getting this worked up over semantics?
 
2012-07-24 02:22:09 PM
Israel, the biggest little kid on the block.
 
2012-07-24 02:22:33 PM

Mrtraveler01: Eshkar: On another note, United Jerusalem is the Capital of Israel,

Does that mean they'll stop evicting Palestinians from their homes then?


Considering that Jordan was originally supposed to be "Palestine" before the Hussein's took it and turned into Jordan and 70% of Jordan's populace is oppressed Palestinians... why don't you start gripping at Jordan if you are so concerned with the plight of the Palestinians... seeing that what we call Jordan today is actually Palestine. It really is sad, Jordan treats their Palestinian majority like shiat; while the majority of Palestinians living as Israeli citizens have made it clear they won't give up their citizenship's to be part of a West Bank "Palestinian" state because Israel treats them far better than Fatah, Hamas, or Jordan... but yet the world sees fit to biatch at Israel for defending themselves against radical terrorist... defending Hebrew, Palestinian, and Druze Israeli Citizens. Israel has always been inhabited by the Hebrew people, they have been chased out and come back so many times it's insane. We aren't going anywhere; Israel is ours, Jerusalem is our Capital.
 
2012-07-24 02:24:15 PM

liam76: Really that is what SA did? I thought they decided, based on race, that there were four difference classes of people who had different rightd based on that classification.


Yep, they did the four classification thing and then: (from wiki LOL) "Non-white political representation was completely abolished in 1970, and starting in that year black people were deprived of their citizenship, legally becoming citizens of one of ten tribally based self-governing homelands called bantustans, four of which became nominally independent states."

The use of "bantustans" was mostly for international consumption, if I remember my college international relations course properly. It was little more than a fig leaf for the policy you point out, but it was an important fig leaf. Again, the idea that there will some day be an independent Palestinian State with actual territorial integrity is also mostly a fig leaf-- but an important one-- it allows for the current policy of treating them as foreign nationals on the land they call home.
 
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