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2012-07-24 10:13:38 AM  
Yeah, all that stuff is about what people were writing about Paterno a year and a half or so ago.
 
2012-07-24 10:21:42 AM  

IAmRight: Yeah, all that stuff is about what people were writing about Paterno a year and a half or so ago.


Agreed. People have asked me if I'm "happy" that Bowden is now the I-A wins leader. I just give them the glare.
 
2012-07-24 11:01:12 AM  
I like what Bowden said yesterday, when interviewed by ESPN.

ESPN tool: "So are you happy to be the Division I-A leader in wins?"

Bowden:

There's no rejoicing in the Bowden household," Bowden said when reached Monday. "The most important matter is the young men who suffered. I won't be able to enjoy it under the circumstances.

"The fact I knew Joe personally, I'm probably like a lot of the kids who played for him. I hate it for Joe and his family, but the worst part is what happened to those kids and what Jerry Sandusky did."
 
2012-07-24 11:02:36 AM  
Smart man. He doesn't want anyone looking too closely at his program's history, either.
 
2012-07-24 11:05:26 AM  
"It's not something we can rejoice about," said Bowden. "The Bowden family cannot rejoice, although I wish I could."

Way to prove that you'll always be an asshole!

/yeah I know he said its not the way he wanted it
//but still, why say what he said?
///also, didn't he try to get some other wins added to his record?
 
2012-07-24 11:08:40 AM  

Lost Thought 00: Smart man. He doesn't want anyone looking too closely at his program's history, either.


There's a reason we call them the Criminoles.
 
2012-07-24 11:35:44 AM  

IAmRight: Yeah, all that stuff is about what people were writing about Paterno a year and a half or so ago.


Yeah can we stop sainting these guys. Most of them are turning a blind eye to things that give them a competitive advantage.
 
2012-07-24 11:44:22 AM  
Bowden and my mother in law when to the same high school, and he spoke at their last reunion.

"I just spent two hours signing autographs in the parking lot . . .

He pulls out a stack of headshots.

" . . . so if anyone wants one . . ."



/ csb
 
2012-07-24 11:48:13 AM  

CastorTroy: IAmRight: Yeah, all that stuff is about what people were writing about Paterno a year and a half or so ago.

Agreed. People have asked me if I'm "happy" that Bowden is now the I-A wins leader. I just give them the glare.


Really? When people ask me, I say, "farkin' right, I am." Bobby's good ol' boy schtick got old somewhere around the mid-'90s for me, but I'm happy for the old huckster. He earned it. He completely farked us for the last decade of his career with his idiot kid running the offense and bringing back his retarded cronies like Chuck Amato. But that's done with, and Jimbo's done a good job sorting it out.

At least Bowden was running the team (atrociously, but nevertheless), unlike JoePa, who quit coaching a decade ago.

So good for him. I'll take Free Shoes over Rapey Valley any day of the week.
 
2012-07-24 11:54:59 AM  

Devo: IAmRight: Yeah, all that stuff is about what people were writing about Paterno a year and a half or so ago.

Yeah can we stop sainting these guys. Most of them are turning a blind eye to things that give them a competitive advantage.


I think anybody with half a brain quit sainting Bowden years ago. Nobody likes him for his clean image. People like him because he's funny -- he's like your crazy old grandpa, but occasionally fairly witty -- and because he has a dictionary's worth of "dadgums" "uh huhs" and all those other dopey Southernisms to throw around. The reporters eat that shiat up.

He was just as corrupt as most others. He also just happened to be a better coach for most of his career who was sitting on one of the best regions in the country for talent.
 
2012-07-24 12:14:33 PM  

Devo: IAmRight: Yeah, all that stuff is about what people were writing about Paterno a year and a half or so ago.

Yeah can we stop sainting these guys. Most of them are turning a blind eye to things that give them a competitive advantage.


2.bp.blogspot.com

"What? Lawrence Phillips assaulted his ex-girlfriend and dragged her down a flight of stairs by her hair? Eh, give him a slap on the wrist and let him suit up for the national title game. Most people are predicting Florida will win, and our program can't take another embarrassing loss in a bowl game. We do things The Right Way at 'ole NU!"
 
2012-07-24 12:43:52 PM  

bluorangefyre: "It's not something we can rejoice about," said Bowden. "The Bowden family cannot rejoice, although I wish I could."

Way to prove that you'll always be an asshole!

/yeah I know he said its not the way he wanted it
//but still, why say what he said?
///also, didn't he try to get some other wins added to his record?


STFU, you piece of shiat. How about you acknowledge your blue and orange bias, instead of guessing that he tried to get wins "added to his record". And stop trying to read between the lines in order to vilify somebody just because he beat UF so many times.
 
2012-07-24 01:28:52 PM  

born_yesterday: "The fact I knew Joe personally, I'm probably like a lot of the kids who played for him. I hate it for Joe and his family, but the worst part is what happened to those kids and what Jerry Sandusky did."


Wait, he actually feels sympathy for that pedo enabler? We must strip him of his wins, too!

/I guess if everyone thinks I am, I might as well...
 
2012-07-24 01:44:07 PM  

velvet_fog: Devo: IAmRight: Yeah, all that stuff is about what people were writing about Paterno a year and a half or so ago.

Yeah can we stop sainting these guys. Most of them are turning a blind eye to things that give them a competitive advantage.

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 563x370]

"What? Lawrence Phillips assaulted his ex-girlfriend and dragged her down a flight of stairs by her hair? Eh, give him a slap on the wrist and let him suit up for the national title game. Most people are predicting Florida will win, and our program can't take another embarrassing loss in a bowl game. We do things The Right Way at 'ole NU!"


Osborne has said publicly that his decision on Phillips was the wrong one, especially after the distructive aftermath. In any case, Phillips was not the reason Nebraska blew out Florida by 40 points. As for Bowden, if the 'We are Marshall' movie is to be believed, Bowden does have a good heart. I'd hope that both of them wouldn't have pulled a Paterno in their past.
 
2012-07-24 02:09:13 PM  
I have the footnote for their asterisk right here:

* Only because Joe Paterno was a child rape harboring sack of human excrement.
 
2012-07-24 02:55:05 PM  

Lost Thought 00: Smart man. He doesn't want anyone looking too closely at his program's history, either.


Yeah, because the shadiness at Fla State was on par with the child rape-a-thon that happened at Penn State.
 
2012-07-24 03:25:12 PM  
There are those who despise Bowden without having met him and without knowing anything other than the few instances of player issues. There are those who love Bowden without having met him and without knowing anything other than how he handled player issues. The same can be said of Osborne, Paterno, or any other well-known person.

Epicurus was right. Whether a man is good or bad, charming or nasty, people will adore or despise as they will whether evidence backs up their emotion or not. You cannot control what others think of you, so ignore their opinions and live free.

/Some of your Farkers are really sad, little people.
 
2012-07-24 03:57:01 PM  
Considering bowden heard the criticism and some of it well deserved for the 'Criminoles' for a very good portion of his tenture, at the very least I hope there is a maximum amount of transparency and nothing went unreported.

On the other hand Joepa had his knob slobbed for "doing it the right way." a horrible misconception in retrospect, only to find out he was a self centered glory hog who thought only of the program he had built and his own legacy.

I think I owe a bit of a tip of the cap to Mr Bowden I had judged him too harshly given the activities of his peers. Perhaps im just getting very cynical with age but my opinion now is no top 50 team in NCAA division 1 football is clean, some just deflect investigation and have complicit locals who know how to sweep things under the rug.
 
2012-07-24 05:44:16 PM  
Did somebody have the nerve to mention the Gators? Spurrier? Tebus? Well say, how 'bout them UM Hurricanes, too!

/war drums heard again in Tallahassee

//time to move on
 
2012-07-24 06:12:23 PM  
*
 
2012-07-24 09:43:18 PM  
Was FSU's program really any dirtier than average?

Yeah, there were some farkups, but most were kicked off the team. (You could field a top-notch receiving corps with FSU receivers kicked off the team - Randy Moss, Coles, Preston Parker, Fred Rouse).

The biggest scandal - Pete Warrick - was a joke. The kid got a hookup at a local store. Who in college didn't have a bartender who hooked them up with free drinks or a friend at a restaurant who gave them free food? The same old white guys judging him probably had tons of hookups like that.

And it was surreal to go to the game after he was caught and see his face and signature on the game ticket, see about five thousand Peter Warrick jerseys in the stands (at eighty bucks a pop, unless you have a hookup), and know that the kid got busted for about four hundred bucks in clothes. Unreal.

The wins that were vacated? The NCAA admitted that no one in the administration knew anything about it.

Really, the worst things during his tenure were the preferential treatment he gave Sebastian Janikowski, Deion Sanders making absolutely no effort to pretend to be a student, and the Jeff Bowden fiasco.

As far as player arrests, they were never as bad as Ohio State or UF during the Urban Meyer era.
 
2012-07-24 09:57:51 PM  

farbekrieg: Considering bowden heard the criticism and some of it well deserved for the 'Criminoles' for a very good portion of his tenture, at the very least I hope there is a maximum amount of transparency and nothing went unreported.

On the other hand Joepa had his knob slobbed for "doing it the right way." a horrible misconception in retrospect, only to find out he was a self centered glory hog who thought only of the program he had built and his own legacy.

I think I owe a bit of a tip of the cap to Mr Bowden I had judged him too harshly given the activities of his peers. Perhaps im just getting very cynical with age but my opinion now is no top 50 team in NCAA division 1 football is clean, some just deflect investigation and have complicit locals who know how to sweep things under the rug.


No, you didn't judge Bowden too harshly in all likelihood. Again, Bowden was corrupt like all of them. He just happened to be a better coach sitting on a talent gold mine in Florida.

Anybody looking for the great program that Does It The Right Way(TM) is asking for disappointment. Accept it for what it is: a corrupt sport (like all others), ruled by people who emphasize winning over almost everything,* that also happens to be a lot of fun. Purity doesn't exist in anything people have money dependent upon.

*Except at Penn State, where the Cult of JoePa means it apparently trumps literally everything.
 
2012-07-25 10:56:59 AM  

FLMountainMan: As far as player arrests, they were never as bad as Ohio State or UF during the Urban Meyer era.


You may be too young to remember the Charley Pell Gator era.
 
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