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2012-07-24 12:16:33 AM  
Garbageman trifecta?
 
2012-07-24 04:51:09 AM  
I haven't RTFA yet, but I'm not holding my breath that someone who hasn't become anything in life other than a garbageman will have, shall we say, haute taste. I'm picturing the paintings one might see in a Motel 6 room mixed with lobby paintings from McDonalds. Oh, and sports logos. Lots of sports logos.
 
2012-07-24 04:51:21 AM  
Some of that stuff was pretty cool. When his little space gets too cluttered, he should have a auction and donate the money to his favorite charity.
 
2012-07-24 04:55:45 AM  
Why would someone have a painting of Jimmie Walker in the first place?

/dyn-o-mite
 
2012-07-24 04:57:05 AM  
looks like a good deal to me dude
 
2012-07-24 05:01:21 AM  

Rufus Lee King: xl5150: I haven't RTFA yet, but I'm not holding my breath that someone who hasn't become anything in life other than a garbageman will have, shall we say, haute taste. I'm picturing the paintings one might see in a Motel 6 room mixed with lobby paintings from McDonalds. Oh, and sports logos. Lots of sports logos.

Hey! There's lots of money to be had in waste management!

[thedisbrimstonedailypitchfork.files.wordpress.com image 425x300]


Sure, there's lots of money to be had in waste management. There's not much money to be had as a garbageman though. There's also lots of money to be had as a bank CEO, but there's not much to be had as the janitor who cleans the CEO's toilet (which is pretty much the same thing as a garbageman, at least on the scale of intelligence and motivation).
 
2012-07-24 05:19:30 AM  

xl5150: janitor who cleans the CEO's toilet (which is pretty much the same thing as a garbageman


except the garbage man works for the city and gets paid with your money.
 
2012-07-24 05:26:47 AM  

solokumba: xl5150: janitor who cleans the CEO's toilet (which is pretty much the same thing as a garbageman

except the garbage man works for the city and gets paid with your money.


Big deal. The point I was making was that someone who never rises up and actually makes something of himself in life is most likely not someone who is smart enough to actually have an interest in art beyond his favorite sport's team logo plastered everywhere. Whether the $8 an hour he gets paid comes from a public or private coffer is immaterial (although we have private garbage collection where I live, so you were even wrong about that).
 
2012-07-24 05:34:51 AM  

xl5150: solokumba: xl5150: janitor who cleans the CEO's toilet (which is pretty much the same thing as a garbageman

except the garbage man works for the city and gets paid with your money.

Big deal. The point I was making was that someone who never rises up and actually makes something of himself in life is most likely not someone who is smart enough to actually have an interest in art beyond his favorite sport's team logo plastered everywhere. Whether the $8 an hour he gets paid comes from a public or private coffer is immaterial (although we have private garbage collection where I live, so you were even wrong about that).


Wow. You are a judgmental piece of shiat. This man has been gainfully employed with the same company since 1981 and has raised six children. So sorry that he does not live up to your standards. Ass.
 
2012-07-24 05:37:39 AM  

kellynoel: Wow. You are a judgmental piece of shiat. This man has been gainfully employed with the same company since 1981 and has raised six children. So sorry that he does not live up to your standards. Ass.


Six kids? Christ. Poor people always have the most kids even though they're the ones who can least afford it. It's one of life's great conundrums, and naturally the taxpayers are the ones expected to do the heavy lifting.
 
2012-07-24 05:41:05 AM  

xl5150: kellynoel: Wow. You are a judgmental piece of shiat. This man has been gainfully employed with the same company since 1981 and has raised six children. So sorry that he does not live up to your standards. Ass.

Six kids? Christ. Poor people always have the most kids even though they're the ones who can least afford it. It's one of life's great conundrums, and naturally the taxpayers are the ones expected to do the heavy lifting.


Last time I checked, the average garbage man earned more than the average teacher.

But you go on with your bad self, asshole.
 
2012-07-24 05:42:38 AM  

kellynoel: Last time I checked, the average garbage man earned more than the average teacher.

But you go on with your bad self, asshole.



Wow! So they can get the one-bedroom apartment instead of the studio? Livin' large!
 
2012-07-24 06:01:24 AM  

HenryFnord: Why would someone have a painting of Jimmie Walker in the first place?

/dyn-o-mite


i would. i've seen Mr.Walker on talk shows. incredibly articulate, intelligent and captivating.
 
2012-07-24 06:56:56 AM  

xl5150: kellynoel: Last time I checked, the average garbage man earned more than the average teacher.

But you go on with your bad self, asshole.

Wow! So they can get the one-bedroom apartment instead of the studio? Livin' large!


Some of those guys can make upwards of $70K. If by "rise up and actually makes something of himself in life", you mean earn more than the average person, then he has. That would put him in the top third in earning in the US.

But I know. He can't match your standards cause you make eleventy-gazillion dollars a year!!

[internetrichguymagazine.jpg]
 
2012-07-24 07:00:25 AM  

xl5150: kellynoel: Last time I checked, the average garbage man earned more than the average teacher.

But you go on with your bad self, asshole.


Wow! So they can get the one-bedroom apartment instead of the studio? Livin' large!


At first I assumed you were an asshole. Now I am prepared to give you 9/10 for excellent trolling. Well done.
 
2012-07-24 07:12:01 AM  

abhorrent1: Some of those guys can make upwards of $70K. If by "rise up and actually makes something of himself in life", you mean earn more than the average person, then he has. That would put him in the top third in earning in the US.


The fact that some guy somewhere who works 90 hours a week with overtime and pulls in $70k a year is hardly that impressive. People don't get into a career in garbage collection because they decided to turn down a career in medicine, law, or anything else respectable for that matter. You can try to attack me personally all you want with nonsensical numbers and other strawman arguments, but the fact remains that I'm right.
 
2012-07-24 07:23:38 AM  
What the collection is missing:

www.hahastop.com
 
2012-07-24 07:31:20 AM  

kellynoel: Wow. You are a judgmental piece of shiat. This man has been gainfully employed with the same company since 1981 and has raised six children. So sorry that he does not live up to your standards. Ass.


He's always like this. He's a troll or an asshole. It doesn't matter which.
 
2012-07-24 07:31:53 AM  

xl5150: I haven't RTFA yet, but I'm not holding my breath that someone who hasn't become anything in life other than a garbageman will have, shall we say, haute taste. I'm picturing the paintings one might see in a Motel 6 room mixed with lobby paintings from McDonalds. Oh, and sports logos. Lots of sports logos.


So, people who work menial jobs can't have 'good taste'? They don't appreciate 'fine art'? That because of the drudgery of the work and the obvious lack of, oh, I dunno, breeding, they are unable to understand the intricacies, subtlties, forms and meanings of works of art?

How very classy of you.

/Bet you pine for the days of Serfdom, too.
 
2012-07-24 07:33:02 AM  

thursdaypostal: kellynoel: Wow. You are a judgmental piece of shiat. This man has been gainfully employed with the same company since 1981 and has raised six children. So sorry that he does not live up to your standards. Ass.

He's always like this. He's a troll or an asshole. It doesn't matter which.


Along a certain line of reasoning (and trolling), the two are remarkably the same. Much like two freeways that share the same surface for several miles.
 
2012-07-24 07:35:26 AM  

Summercat: So, people who work menial jobs can't have 'good taste'? They don't appreciate 'fine art'? That because of the drudgery of the work and the obvious lack of, oh, I dunno, breeding, they are unable to understand the intricacies, subtlties, forms and meanings of works of art?


No, it's because they're not smart.
 
2012-07-24 07:40:56 AM  

xl5150: Summercat: So, people who work menial jobs can't have 'good taste'? They don't appreciate 'fine art'? That because of the drudgery of the work and the obvious lack of, oh, I dunno, breeding, they are unable to understand the intricacies, subtlties, forms and meanings of works of art?

No, it's because they're not smart.


Just wanted to confirm that you're a classist bigot. Thanks, guv.
 
2012-07-24 07:41:01 AM  
He's got nothing on Howard Finster Link
 
2012-07-24 08:09:14 AM  
All you guys talking about "menial jobs". This dude is the work partner of my co-worker's father. They are in the sanitation union and I've heard stories for years about how good they have it (pay, benefits, and easy work). To the point that my friend has been trying to leave his corporate job with me and get into the union. And I'm jealous.

Supposedly there is some cool stuff (we may head over one day to see it) coming from some very rich neighborhoods.
 
2012-07-24 08:22:50 AM  

Spass_Taschen: All you guys talking about "menial jobs". This dude is the work partner of my co-worker's father. They are in the sanitation union and I've heard stories for years about how good they have it (pay, benefits, and easy work). To the point that my friend has been trying to leave his corporate job with me and get into the union. And I'm jealous.

Supposedly there is some cool stuff (we may head over one day to see it) coming from some very rich neighborhoods.


I try not to dis any job. There's ups and downs to nearly all of 'em. If you only analyze pay, well, that's only a small portion of it.

Me, I work for 11 an hour as a security guy. Overnight. This means.... I can do whatever I want, and I get paid 11 an hour to do it. I could probably (with some training) get a job as a tech guy for like 16 an hour to start, but... I'd rather not.

/farking from Work
 
2012-07-24 08:41:44 AM  

xl5150: solokumba: xl5150: janitor who cleans the CEO's toilet (which is pretty much the same thing as a garbageman

except the garbage man works for the city and gets paid with your money.

Big deal. The point I was making was that someone who never rises up and actually makes something of himself in life is most likely not someone who is smart enough to actually have an interest in art beyond his favorite sport's team logo plastered everywhere. Whether the $8 an hour he gets paid comes from a public or private coffer is immaterial (although we have private garbage collection where I live, so you were even wrong about that).


They see my trollin, they hatin

6/10
 
2012-07-24 08:42:30 AM  
xl5150 You really are an ignorant fool.
 
2012-07-24 09:14:19 AM  
www.wearysloth.com

xl5150 you rascal, you never told me you were a DIK! [under his breath] Not that you had to.
 
2012-07-24 09:15:33 AM  
Just waiting for the next Fark link with this guy:

Auction of art collected by garbageman discovers $12 million in lost masterpieces.
 
2012-07-24 09:32:18 AM  

xl5150: solokumba: xl5150: janitor who cleans the CEO's toilet (which is pretty much the same thing as a garbageman

except the garbage man works for the city and gets paid with your money.

Big deal. The point I was making was that someone who never rises up and actually makes something of himself in life is most likely not someone who is smart enough to actually have an interest in art beyond his favorite sport's team logo plastered everywhere. Whether the $8 an hour he gets paid comes from a public or private coffer is immaterial (although we have private garbage collection where I live, so you were even wrong about that).


Where the F do you get off saying this man hasn't "made something of himself"? Good, honest work, raising a family, seeing your kids through college (six in his case!), these are things that we all strive for and things I respect. You don't have to be a white collar worker to have "made it", and you don't have to be an org chart climber to be successful. You need a worldview readjustment because based on the little you've revealed about yourself, and the little we've read about the this garbage man, he sounds like a man of greater character than yourself.
 
2012-07-24 09:37:49 AM  

xl5150: kellynoel: Wow. You are a judgmental piece of shiat. This man has been gainfully employed with the same company since 1981 and has raised six children. So sorry that he does not live up to your standards. Ass.

Six kids? Christ. Poor people always have the most kids even though they're the ones who can least afford it. It's one of life's great conundrums, and naturally the taxpayers are the ones expected to do the heavy lifting.


Garbagemen do heavy lifting, and they pay taxes.
 
2012-07-24 09:44:40 AM  

xl5150: I haven't RTFA yet, but I'm not holding my breath that someone who hasn't become anything in life other than a garbageman will have, shall we say, haute taste. I'm picturing the paintings one might see in a Motel 6 room mixed with lobby paintings from McDonalds. Oh, and sports logos. Lots of sports logos.


Love the logo on your profile.
 
2012-07-24 09:52:32 AM  

xl5150: abhorrent1: Some of those guys can make upwards of $70K. If by "rise up and actually makes something of himself in life", you mean earn more than the average person, then he has. That would put him in the top third in earning in the US.

The fact that some guy somewhere who works 90 hours a week with overtime and pulls in $70k a year is hardly that impressive. People don't get into a career in garbage collection because they decided to turn down a career in medicine, law, or anything else respectable for that matter. You can try to attack me personally all you want with nonsensical numbers and other strawman arguments, but the fact remains that I'm right.


lol yes, 12 years in med school is the worlds most intelligent decision, and lawyers sure are gainfully employed and well respected these days.

Garbagemen in a lot of cities get paid fairly well, they follow government pay structure with government benefits ie health, pension, retire early, etc. Its hazmat and requires special licensing to drive the trucks etc.

Hell, the effort vs reward is actually somewhat remarkable, so long as you're intelligent enough to use perspective when you form opinions about things.
 
2012-07-24 09:54:59 AM  
a modern-day Marcovaldo!
 
2012-07-24 09:55:29 AM  
I think this is just cool. I would pay to do a walk through of his museum. He should get some postcards and posters generated highlighting the various groups of items on display.
 
2012-07-24 09:58:04 AM  

xl5150: solokumba: xl5150: janitor who cleans the CEO's toilet (which is pretty much the same thing as a garbageman

except the garbage man works for the city and gets paid with your money.

Big deal. The point I was making was that someone who never rises up and actually makes something of himself in life is most likely not someone who is smart enough to actually have an interest in art beyond his favorite sport's team logo plastered everywhere. Whether the $8 an hour he gets paid comes from a public or private coffer is immaterial (although we have private garbage collection where I live, so you were even wrong about that).


It has nothing to do with how smart you are, it has to do with whether or not you enjoy what you're doing. The man making $8 an hour who loves what he does is infinitely smarter than the one working for $50 an hour and living in a mansion that hates his job.

My housie's a heavy equipment operator. He got a job offer as a big boss making three times the money, and he jumped on it... and after two weeks ripped the shirt and tie off and went right back to his former position making 1/3 the money as an equipment operator. (The boys where he was boss still call him "Two Weeks" because of this.) He was certainly capable of it and they loved him for the two weeks he was 'big man on campus', but the fact is he realized nearly immediately that he was miserable and it was only going to get worse.

I'd go back to my former job making $10.62 an hour slinging garbage and cleaning bathrooms and dealing with beach patrons and their dumb questions if I had the option. I've got a cushy desk job making more than twice that now. I don't hate what I do, but I'm blue collar by nature and this white collar stuff doesn't agree with me. Some of us are just like that. Chances are that our garbageman art lover is of the same mind.
 
2012-07-24 10:11:07 AM  
He looked at other people's trash and saved things he felt were beautiful. Good karma for him.
 
2012-07-24 10:14:52 AM  

kellynoel: xl5150: solokumba: xl5150: janitor who cleans the CEO's toilet (which is pretty much the same thing as a garbageman

except the garbage man works for the city and gets paid with your money.

Big deal. The point I was making was that someone who never rises up and actually makes something of himself in life is most likely not someone who is smart enough to actually have an interest in art beyond his favorite sport's team logo plastered everywhere. Whether the $8 an hour he gets paid comes from a public or private coffer is immaterial (although we have private garbage collection where I live, so you were even wrong about that).

Wow. You are a judgmental piece of shiat. This man has been gainfully employed with the same company since 1981 and has raised six children. So sorry that he does not live up to your standards. Ass.

 
2012-07-24 11:10:26 AM  
Am I the only one who thought of this:

www.crankycritic.com

//this made me realize I watch WAY too much TV.
//but I still don't care
 
2012-07-24 01:42:34 PM  

xl5150: I haven't RTFA yet, but I'm not holding my breath that someone who hasn't become anything in life other than a garbageman will have, shall we say, haute taste. I'm picturing the paintings one might see in a Motel 6 room mixed with lobby paintings from McDonalds. Oh, and sports logos. Lots of sports logos.


justinsomnia.org

"Look, the people you are after are the people you depend on. We cook your meals, we haul your trash, we connect your calls, we drive your ambulances. We guard you while you sleep. Do not... fark with us."
 
2012-07-24 01:58:51 PM  

dennerman: Where the F do you get off saying this man hasn't "made something of himself"? Good, honest work, raising a family, seeing your kids through college (six in his case!)


Having kids you can't afford, using public assistance (probably) to get by while raising them because you aren't smart or talented enough to get a real job to support all those kids, and then sending them to (I'm guessing public) college while using financial assistance (my tax dollars) even though they shouldn't waste their time with college since they'll all become garbage collectors, is hardly a legacy. Not to mention that with making little money and having six kids he probably got all of his taxes and then some back, so he's not even contributing anything at all.
 
2012-07-24 02:00:21 PM  

BarkingUnicorn: Garbagemen do heavy lifting, and they pay taxes.


Yes, they do heavy lifting. That's because that's the type of job you get when you don't work hard in high school and you're not smart enough to get into college.

No, they don't pay taxes. They make very little money and when they have six kids, they'll get the nubianrdly amount of taxes that they do pay back each year and probably with some EIC on top of it as well.
 
2012-07-24 02:02:04 PM  

GoodCopBadCop: Love the logo on your profile.


Fight on! Are you a fellow Trojan?
 
2012-07-24 02:04:42 PM  

Alonjar: lol yes, 12 years in med school is the worlds most intelligent decision, and lawyers sure are gainfully employed and well respected these days.


This is the kind of thing blue-collar people always tell themselves to feel better. "Ha! I'm actually smarter than any doctor out there!" Sure. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Garbagemen in a lot of cities get paid fairly well, they follow government pay structure with government benefits ie health, pension, retire early, etc. Its hazmat and requires special licensing to drive the trucks etc.

It's depressing to me that some people would think $14 an hour or so is "high pay." I wish I could see it as quaint, but it's just sad.
 
2012-07-24 02:09:35 PM  

WarszawaScream:

It has nothing to do with how smart you are, it has to do with whether or not you enjoy what you're doing. The man making $8 an hour who loves what he does is infinitely smarter than the one working for $50 an hour and living in a mansion that hates his job.


Riiiiight.

My housie's a heavy equipment operator. He got a job offer as a big boss making three times the money, and he jumped on it... and after two weeks ripped the shirt and tie off and went right back to his former position making 1/3 the money as an equipment operator. (The boys where he was boss still call him "Two Weeks" because of this.) He was certainly capable of it and they loved him for the two weeks he was 'big man on campus', but the fact is he realized nearly immediately that he was miserable and it was only going to get worse.

Hey, some people are happy with being mediocre. That's fine with me. If you enjoy a life of living in apartments, driving used 15-year-old cars, never being able to take a vacation, and having to pinch pennies, then power to you. That concept is a big foreign to me, but a lot of people seem happy to follow that life.

I'd go back to my former job making $10.62 an hour slinging garbage and cleaning bathrooms and dealing with beach patrons and their dumb questions if I had the option.

And that's why people like you will always work for people like me.
 
2012-07-24 02:10:10 PM  

Agent Smiths Laugh: "Look, the people you are after are the people you depend on. We cook your meals, we haul your trash, we connect your calls, we drive your ambulances. We guard you while you sleep. Do not... fark with us."


Wow, I'm real scared. Enjoy your studio apartment!
 
2012-07-24 02:59:22 PM  

xl5150: GoodCopBadCop: Love the logo on your profile.

Fight on! Are you a fellow Trojan?


Whether he is or isn't you're still a dick.
 
2012-07-24 02:59:30 PM  

xl5150: WarszawaScream:

It has nothing to do with how smart you are, it has to do with whether or not you enjoy what you're doing. The man making $8 an hour who loves what he does is infinitely smarter than the one working for $50 an hour and living in a mansion that hates his job.

Riiiiight.

My housie's a heavy equipment operator. He got a job offer as a big boss making three times the money, and he jumped on it... and after two weeks ripped the shirt and tie off and went right back to his former position making 1/3 the money as an equipment operator. (The boys where he was boss still call him "Two Weeks" because of this.) He was certainly capable of it and they loved him for the two weeks he was 'big man on campus', but the fact is he realized nearly immediately that he was miserable and it was only going to get worse.

Hey, some people are happy with being mediocre. That's fine with me. If you enjoy a life of living in apartments, driving used 15-year-old cars, never being able to take a vacation, and having to pinch pennies, then power to you. That concept is a big foreign to me, but a lot of people seem happy to follow that life.

I'd go back to my former job making $10.62 an hour slinging garbage and cleaning bathrooms and dealing with beach patrons and their dumb questions if I had the option.

And that's why people like you will always work for people like me.


I was going to call you an excellent troll, but then I saw how many times you replied to people in the same thread - way to out yourself, dumbshiat. You just redefined "trying too hard".
 
2012-07-24 03:19:24 PM  

Agent Smiths Laugh: xl5150: GoodCopBadCop: Love the logo on your profile.

Fight on! Are you a fellow Trojan?

Whether he is or isn't you're still a dick.


Shhhh. The grown-ups are talking.
 
2012-07-24 03:30:48 PM  

Summercat: xl5150: I haven't RTFA yet, but I'm not holding my breath that someone who hasn't become anything in life other than a garbageman will have, shall we say, haute taste. I'm picturing the paintings one might see in a Motel 6 room mixed with lobby paintings from McDonalds. Oh, and sports logos. Lots of sports logos.

So, people who work menial jobs can't have 'good taste'? They don't appreciate 'fine art'? That because of the drudgery of the work and the obvious lack of, oh, I dunno, breeding, they are unable to understand the intricacies, subtlties, forms and meanings of works of art?

How very classy of you.

/Bet you pine for the days of Serfdom, too.


Like Henry Darger. He was a janitor and pages of his work go for top dollar now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Darger.

My old office had a few pages displayed on the walls.
 
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